Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:dear group and respected members in Listpls concentrate in discussionpls see the chart and see if it tallies with ur knowledge than whichword shud b used mailsalso pls expose who ever comes and acting as custodian of ancientknowledge'without Gaurding our culture frm all evil elements we hav no right tosay even its legacyso do ur duty to protect it frm all neo coined unprooved theorysi will come soon with my questions on this readingshere the data of the kid and reading of shri vinay ji on it who eventerrorised mother saying this child should hav died b4 ,is it allowed byneeti satras to say so ?? is it allowed in astrology to say so when theylaid conditions for who can practise astrology ?astrology may b a hobby for many ,but it is not soit is outcome of highest thinking of tantrism .vedism and yogaphilosophy of indiapls dont allow any one to use it for quick fame or short cut to fame bydestroying itall this problems where instigated by a theoreticaly astrologicalybankrupt moderater who uses his position to take revenges and malignother astrologers by hook or crook methodsi also wanred him ever since one month tru personal mails ( asking himto step in and take action in case shri vinay ji cannot proov it ) andsome mails in grp ( those mails withhold or deleted by him and approvedsome selectiv edited mails to show to instigate problems )here is data of kid-------------------, "phone79@ " <phone79@ >wrote:>> >>> > Hello,>> > I am new to this group,I have joined this group in hope that someonewillpredict and sugeest some remedy,I have a three year old son who is nottalkingyet.His birth details are as follow>> > Date of Birth April 27 2006>> > Time 11:08 AM>> > Place Etobicoke canada>> >>> > Please predict when he would start to talk and what remedy is thereto gethim to start talking.I will be highly thankful to you.>> >>> > Kind Regards,>> > Priyankahere is reply of vinay jiRe: My 3 year old son is not talking yet,please predictKundalee software shows Ketu sitting enmically in 2nd house of maarakeshandvoice, its MD running till 19-7-2013. Moon-Merc-Rahu in 8th give adeadlybaalaarishta combination with Ketu in 2nd. Varsha pravesh kundalis arevery badwith Ketu in trik places in all years of ketu MD except Apr 2009 to Apr2010when Ketu is samgrihi in 4th. Among 16 divisionals, Ketu is in trik (badhouses)in 8 divisionals, esp in D24 which shows learning (speaking for a kid),D9 whichshows fortune in all fields, D27 which shows strength, D30 which showsarishta,etc !This boy has passed Ketu-Moon MD:AD which failed to kill the boy inspite ofKetu in 2 and Moon in 8, both being in enemy houses, Moon being lord of12 whichis a killer combination if normal killers fail. This yoga failed becausemoredeadly combination is ahead : Ketu MD and Mercury AD (Saturn PD) in mid2013,at the end of Ketu MD. There are many arishtas before that too.If these arishtas are overcome, normal age is Amshaayu 54.4 (Rahu:Rahu)orNisargaayu 84.2 (Sat:Sat), Pindayuu (Sat:Sun) ruled out due to beneficSun.Immediate propitiation of Ketu must be started, till mid 2013 : fast & conTuesday for Ketu, japa, etc.-VJi will post some analaysis and pointers if all memebrs want to discussthis chart in this forumrgrds sunil nair Re: To set the record straight. Dear Bhagvathi ji, Lets not deviate from the issue. Lets not make a mountain from a mole hole. That word was deliberately used to put some stress on the poor mother who is suffering. You are not ethical when you decide that the boy stays "Dumb" for whole Life, which is not what I meant clearly. There is no need to envelope this fact which is tue for the present, which is why the mother was asking desperately from all the astrologers on the Group. Your hurt must strike the right chord, by replying to that women when her child will speak rather than contemplating on what vocabulary one must use. You are not the only one who has compassion. We all have, perhaps I may have more than you, Who knows this ? regards, Bhaskar. , "bhagavathi_hariharan"bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,>> //At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumbsincelast 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . //>> I am also following the thread on this in JR groups. The boy is onlythree and is still not speaking, for God's sake do not use the word dumbon this child. It is too early to use such a term on this angel. Ithurts me and perhaps might hurt many readers as well.>> Regards,> bhagavathi>dear friends, This has appeared in the "Kabadi ki dukaan " group and was written by the moderator there. // it is also refreshing in the time now as the AIA team had a set agenda in a brief pretension of sharing or friendship in a TROJAN, to finish Vinai ji a reliable common source said. as they could not first establish a peaceful atmosphere and then set their agend to discuss , Even though I had assured him he will not face such a situation here he was apprehensive defensive and.....// Since last one month this game of undermining this Group has been played by the moderator there. He has always used those members who have left this group, to hit us back . He fires gun from their shoulders. In short whatever is thrown away as garbage or discarded as of no value, he picks up and puts for display in his "kabadi ki dukaan". In this case Mr.Vinay got ample opportunities to prove himself in this group and in other Groups, but he could not. We are all witness to it. So who is at fault ? This Group or Mr.Vinay ? The Jyotish Remedies Moderator invited him there and put him atop the mountain peak by buttering him, using him as a launching pad for blasting this Group. Poor Mr.Vinay does not have this intelligence to understand that he is being used. This Group AIA has always remained a Justice minded, Diplomatic and a liberal platform for all astrologers who had something worthwhile to speak of. Even Vinay was given a good opportunity here but could not show the utility of his wares. So who is at fault ? At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb since last 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . But unfortunately that Group has not a single astrologer to give her a contended understandable reply. None has been able to even find the cause for the childs dumbness even after postmartems, forget them to give cure. They are taking that poor mother on a wild goose chase since long. Is this the quality of astrologers on the Group which the moderator of Jyotish remedies prides upon ? He has removed all good astrologers from there and the only ones remain there, to put fear and sell their wares in connivance with ..... Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, Shame on such Moderators of Jyotish Groups and shame on such astrologers who consider themselves as caretakers of Astrological sciences by spurious degrees. This is the quality of astrological predictions done on that idiots Group. I am going to expose all of them methodically one by one, you dont worry. I will clean India from this dirty ruck of evil people trotting on gullible innocent people in name of astrology. What a dirty use of astrology. Here that women is asking when her dumb son will start speaking and this man in name of astrology says that the boy was supposed to be killed , and if not now it is because he is going to face a more deadlier yoga in futurer which will kill him. What is the meaning of such predictions , is anybody hearing me ? Why are there no courts in India to pull such people by their hair and put them live in pits and cover it by sand ??? This poor women is asking when her son will speak, and this nautanki astrologer instead of replying her the answer to her query, is putting more fear in her. Why ? So that she may contact him in private and then ............????????????? This must be stopped for heavens sake. Bhaskar. , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > dear group and respected members in List> > > pls concentrate in discussion> > pls see the chart and see if it tallies with ur knowledge than which> word shud b used mails> > also pls expose who ever comes and acting as custodian of ancient> knowledge> '> without Gaurding our culture frm all evil elements we hav no right to> say even its legacy> > so do ur duty to protect it frm all neo coined unprooved theorys> > i will come soon with my questions on this readings> > here the data of the kid and reading of shri vinay ji on it who even> terrorised mother saying this child should hav died b4 ,is it allowed by> neeti satras to say so ?? is it allowed in astrology to say so when they> laid conditions for who can practise astrology ?> > astrology may b a hobby for many ,but it is not so> > it is outcome of highest thinking of tantrism .vedism and yoga> philosophy of india> > pls dont allow any one to use it for quick fame or short cut to fame by> destroying it> > all this problems where instigated by a theoreticaly astrologicaly> bankrupt moderater who uses his position to take revenges and malign> other astrologers by hook or crook methods> > i also wanred him ever since one month tru personal mails ( asking him> to step in and take action in case shri vinay ji cannot proov it ) and> some mails in grp ( those mails withhold or deleted by him and approved> some selectiv edited mails to show to instigate problems )> > here is data of kid> -------------------> > , "phone79@ " <phone79@ >> wrote:> >> > >> >> > > Hello,> >> > > I am new to this group,I have joined this group in hope that someone> will> predict and sugeest some remedy,I have a three year old son who is not> talking> yet.His birth details are as follow> >> > > Date of Birth April 27 2006> >> > > Time 11:08 AM> >> > > Place Etobicoke canada> >> > >> >> > > Please predict when he would start to talk and what remedy is there> to get> him to start talking.I will be highly thankful to you.> >> > >> >> > > Kind Regards,> >> > > Priyanka> > > here is reply of vinay ji> > > Re: My 3 year old son is not talking yet,please predict> Kundalee software shows Ketu sitting enmically in 2nd house of maarakesh> and> voice, its MD running till 19-7-2013. Moon-Merc-Rahu in 8th give a> deadly> baalaarishta combination with Ketu in 2nd. Varsha pravesh kundalis are> very bad> with Ketu in trik places in all years of ketu MD except Apr 2009 to Apr> 2010> when Ketu is samgrihi in 4th. Among 16 divisionals, Ketu is in trik (bad> houses)> in 8 divisionals, esp in D24 which shows learning (speaking for a kid),> D9 which> shows fortune in all fields, D27 which shows strength, D30 which shows> arishta,> etc !> > This boy has passed Ketu-Moon MD:AD which failed to kill the boy in> spite of> Ketu in 2 and Moon in 8, both being in enemy houses, Moon being lord of> 12 which> is a killer combination if normal killers fail. This yoga failed because> more> deadly combination is ahead : Ketu MD and Mercury AD (Saturn PD) in mid> 2013,> at the end of Ketu MD. There are many arishtas before that too.> > If these arishtas are overcome, normal age is Amshaayu 54.4 (Rahu:Rahu)> or> Nisargaayu 84.2 (Sat:Sat), Pindayuu (Sat:Sun) ruled out due to benefic> Sun.> > Immediate propitiation of Ketu must be started, till mid 2013 : fast & c> on> Tuesday for Ketu, japa, etc.> > -VJ> > > i will post some analaysis and pointers if all memebrs want to discuss> this chart in this forum> > > rgrds sunil nair> > Re: To set the record straight.> > Dear Bhagvathi ji,> > Lets not deviate from the issue.> > Lets not make a mountain from a mole hole. That word was deliberately> used to put some stress on the poor mother who is suffering. You are not> ethical when you decide that the boy stays "Dumb" for whole Life, which> is not what I meant clearly. There is no need to envelope this fact> which is tue for the present, which is why the mother was asking> desperately from all the astrologers on the Group. Your hurt must strike> the right chord, by replying to that women when her child will speak> rather than contemplating on what vocabulary one must use.> > You are not the only one who has compassion. We all have, perhaps I may> have more than you, Who knows this ?> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > , "bhagavathi_hariharan"> bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > //At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb> sincelast 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . //> >> > I am also following the thread on this in JR groups. The boy is only> three and is still not speaking, for God's sake do not use the word dumb> on this child. It is too early to use such a term on this angel. It> hurts me and perhaps might hurt many readers as well.> >> > Regards,> > bhagavathi> >dear friends,> > This has appeared in the "Kabadi ki dukaan " group and was written by> the moderator there.> > // it is also refreshing in the time now as the AIA team had a set> agenda in a brief pretension of sharing or friendship in a TROJAN, to> finish Vinai ji a> reliable common source said. as they could not first establish a> peaceful atmosphere and then set their agend to discuss , Even though I> had assured him he will not face such a situation here he was> apprehensive defensive and.....//> > Since last one month this game of undermining this Group has been played> by the moderator there. He has always used those members who have left> this group, to hit us back . He fires gun from their shoulders. In short> whatever is thrown away as garbage or discarded as of no value, he> picks up and puts for display in his "kabadi ki dukaan".> > In this case Mr.Vinay got ample opportunities to prove himself in this> group and in other Groups, but he could not. We are all witness to it.> So who is at fault ? This Group or Mr.Vinay ? The Jyotish Remedies> Moderator invited him there and put him atop the mountain peak by> buttering him, using him as a launching pad for blasting this Group.> Poor Mr.Vinay does not have this intelligence to understand that he is> being used. This Group AIA has always remained a Justice minded,> Diplomatic and a liberal platform for all astrologers who had something> worthwhile to speak of. Even Vinay was given a good opportunity here but> could not show the utility of his wares. So who is at fault ?> > At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb since> last 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . But unfortunately> that Group has not a single astrologer to give her a contended> understandable reply. None has been able to even find the cause for the> childs dumbness even after postmartems, forget them to give cure. They> are taking that poor mother on a wild goose chase since long. Is this> the quality of astrologers on the Group which the moderator of Jyotish> remedies prides upon ? He has removed all good astrologers from there> and the only ones remain there, to put fear and sell their wares in> connivance with .....> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,There is something called QUARANTINE. In this virtual reality, specially, everyone should be very aware and not take it lightly. Internet is a VIRUS'S DELIGHT. Any virus, even if passing by, gets attracted to this very conducive breeding ground and contaminate large pockets very quickly. Most of the users are defenseless and not equipped with masks to keep the virus away. And a large free space is a lottery! Wonderful! It should be the duty of CEOs of these small and big realities to keep their sites healthy and virus-free. Instead, they provide free grounds to them to proliferate and spread toxins. If there is a worthy research, it should be well-documented and submitted for public scrutiny by publishing in reputed journals. That document itself will hold much value and will attract scholars automatically. One cannot force-feed his beliefs into the minds of innocent public by unreasonably terrorizing them. Not even one person has acknowledged and accepted this forced flow of knowledge in more than six months. What a waste of time and energy for VJ ji. A creative mind is free to imagine, search and research, but he must be able to gracefully present his work with ample evidences and leave it for public to judge and accept. We are not dogmatic and initially responded with an open mind, but there was not enough substance in the claims. And with time and space he was provided in JR, vanity and ego are his only possessions of this MONK. He misunderstands every which way one tries to explain the facts to him. In a way, CEO ji has brought out the worst in him. He had some sense when he was communicating in AIA. Now it is all non-sense. I hope and pray that he realises how he is being wasted, as he is still capable of putting his energies to good use. RegardsNeelam 2009/5/21 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, Shame on such Moderators of Jyotish Groups and shame on such astrologers who consider themselves as caretakers of Astrological sciences by spurious degrees. This is the quality of astrological predictions done on that idiots Group. I am going to expose all of them methodically one by one, you dont worry. I will clean India from this dirty ruck of evil people trotting on gullible innocent people in name of astrology. What a dirty use of astrology. Here that women is asking when her dumb son will start speaking and this man in name of astrology says that the boy was supposed to be killed , and if not now it is because he is going to face a more deadlier yoga in futurer which will kill him. What is the meaning of such predictions , is anybody hearing me ? Why are there no courts in India to pull such people by their hair and put them live in pits and cover it by sand ??? This poor women is asking when her son will speak, and this nautanki astrologer instead of replying her the answer to her query, is putting more fear in her. Why ? So that she may contact him in private and then ............????????????? This must be stopped for heavens sake. Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > dear group and respected members in List> > > pls concentrate in discussion> > pls see the chart and see if it tallies with ur knowledge than which > word shud b used mails> > also pls expose who ever comes and acting as custodian of ancient> knowledge> '> without Gaurding our culture frm all evil elements we hav no right to > say even its legacy> > so do ur duty to protect it frm all neo coined unprooved theorys> > i will come soon with my questions on this readings> > here the data of the kid and reading of shri vinay ji on it who even > terrorised mother saying this child should hav died b4 ,is it allowed by> neeti satras to say so ?? is it allowed in astrology to say so when they> laid conditions for who can practise astrology ?> > astrology may b a hobby for many ,but it is not so> > it is outcome of highest thinking of tantrism .vedism and yoga> philosophy of india> > pls dont allow any one to use it for quick fame or short cut to fame by > destroying it> > all this problems where instigated by a theoreticaly astrologicaly> bankrupt moderater who uses his position to take revenges and malign> other astrologers by hook or crook methods > > i also wanred him ever since one month tru personal mails ( asking him> to step in and take action in case shri vinay ji cannot proov it ) and> some mails in grp ( those mails withhold or deleted by him and approved > some selectiv edited mails to show to instigate problems )> > here is data of kid> -------------------> > , " phone79@ " <phone79@ > > wrote:> >> > >> >> > > Hello,> >> > > I am new to this group,I have joined this group in hope that someone> will> predict and sugeest some remedy,I have a three year old son who is not > talking> yet.His birth details are as follow> >> > > Date of Birth April 27 2006> >> > > Time 11:08 AM> >> > > Place Etobicoke canada> > > > >> >> > > Please predict when he would start to talk and what remedy is there> to get> him to start talking.I will be highly thankful to you.> >> > > > >> > > Kind Regards,> >> > > Priyanka> > > here is reply of vinay ji> > > Re: My 3 year old son is not talking yet,please predict > Kundalee software shows Ketu sitting enmically in 2nd house of maarakesh> and> voice, its MD running till 19-7-2013. Moon-Merc-Rahu in 8th give a> deadly> baalaarishta combination with Ketu in 2nd. Varsha pravesh kundalis are > very bad> with Ketu in trik places in all years of ketu MD except Apr 2009 to Apr> 2010> when Ketu is samgrihi in 4th. Among 16 divisionals, Ketu is in trik (bad> houses)> in 8 divisionals, esp in D24 which shows learning (speaking for a kid), > D9 which> shows fortune in all fields, D27 which shows strength, D30 which shows> arishta,> etc !> > This boy has passed Ketu-Moon MD:AD which failed to kill the boy in> spite of > Ketu in 2 and Moon in 8, both being in enemy houses, Moon being lord of> 12 which> is a killer combination if normal killers fail. This yoga failed because> more> deadly combination is ahead : Ketu MD and Mercury AD (Saturn PD) in mid > 2013,> at the end of Ketu MD. There are many arishtas before that too.> > If these arishtas are overcome, normal age is Amshaayu 54.4 (Rahu:Rahu)> or> Nisargaayu 84.2 (Sat:Sat), Pindayuu (Sat:Sun) ruled out due to benefic > Sun.> > Immediate propitiation of Ketu must be started, till mid 2013 : fast & c> on> Tuesday for Ketu, japa, etc.> > -VJ> > > i will post some analaysis and pointers if all memebrs want to discuss > this chart in this forum> > > rgrds sunil nair> > Re: To set the record straight.> > Dear Bhagvathi ji,> > Lets not deviate from the issue.> > Lets not make a mountain from a mole hole. That word was deliberately > used to put some stress on the poor mother who is suffering. You are not> ethical when you decide that the boy stays " Dumb " for whole Life, which> is not what I meant clearly. There is no need to envelope this fact > which is tue for the present, which is why the mother was asking> desperately from all the astrologers on the Group. Your hurt must strike> the right chord, by replying to that women when her child will speak > rather than contemplating on what vocabulary one must use.> > You are not the only one who has compassion. We all have, perhaps I may> have more than you, Who knows this ?> > regards, > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > //At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb> sincelast 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . // > >> > I am also following the thread on this in JR groups. The boy is only> three and is still not speaking, for God's sake do not use the word dumb> on this child. It is too early to use such a term on this angel. It > hurts me and perhaps might hurt many readers as well.> >> > Regards,> > bhagavathi> >dear friends,> > This has appeared in the " Kabadi ki dukaan " group and was written by > the moderator there.> > // it is also refreshing in the time now as the AIA team had a set> agenda in a brief pretension of sharing or friendship in a TROJAN, to> finish Vinai ji a> reliable common source said. as they could not first establish a > peaceful atmosphere and then set their agend to discuss , Even though I> had assured him he will not face such a situation here he was> apprehensive defensive and.....//> > Since last one month this game of undermining this Group has been played > by the moderator there. He has always used those members who have left> this group, to hit us back . He fires gun from their shoulders. In short> whatever is thrown away as garbage or discarded as of no value, he > picks up and puts for display in his " kabadi ki dukaan " .> > In this case Mr.Vinay got ample opportunities to prove himself in this> group and in other Groups, but he could not. We are all witness to it. > So who is at fault ? This Group or Mr.Vinay ? The Jyotish Remedies> Moderator invited him there and put him atop the mountain peak by> buttering him, using him as a launching pad for blasting this Group. > Poor Mr.Vinay does not have this intelligence to understand that he is> being used. This Group AIA has always remained a Justice minded,> Diplomatic and a liberal platform for all astrologers who had something > worthwhile to speak of. Even Vinay was given a good opportunity here but> could not show the utility of his wares. So who is at fault ?> > At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb since > last 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . But unfortunately> that Group has not a single astrologer to give her a contended> understandable reply. None has been able to even find the cause for the > childs dumbness even after postmartems, forget them to give cure. They> are taking that poor mother on a wild goose chase since long. Is this> the quality of astrologers on the Group which the moderator of Jyotish > remedies prides upon ? He has removed all good astrologers from there> and the only ones remain there, to put fear and sell their wares in> connivance with .....> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 respected Bhaskar ji Thanks for taking up this fight with this kind of unwanted rogue elemnts who is in astrology first of all they were not ready to discuss in real sastrartha way their own grp the so called best software in world cannot downloaded ,Its rasi and dgree positions is deviating drasticaly .No one in this world cannot refute it or support it so long as it can b verified he dont do any case study ,except tall claims that NASA and some Universities approved it .R we waiting for NASA to approv our astrological knowledge and ancient sidhanthas ?? Or how many of u go to this sanskrit professors for reading ur chart ?? How many of them prooved even their real worth in frnd of intelligentia of india ?? Other than they hav done some academic study in some approved institutes and passed some exams conducted by them .How many sanskrit professers in reality can answer even our so called attackers of astrology ?? Now he is terrorising a poor mother and also doing a sort of Post mortem reply if his software is correct and devine like he claims ( as if he can guage the dieties tru his software - if planets r simple dieties and their physical position is unimportant then what is the use of a software ? what is the use of sidhanthas ,what is the use of a makarnada correction table .why u need to corrrect it ,what correction u r doing ?? why trignometry and sperical geometry is used to find dieties and satans and devils )1) can he tell the physical featues of the boy 2) can he tell why this boy is suffering ( due to which karma in past life ??)3) can he tell why the family is suffering because of this problem ( i mean what is karmik connection or reason for thier suffering ?) 4) can he tell why this boys soul search for this mother and family to finish of and burn out his prarabda karmas ??5 ) what is the connection between this family and that boy in previous birth ??6) can he tell other abilites of boy 7 ) can he tell anything abt mom 8 ) can he tell any thing abt his siblings 9 ) can he tell anything abt the status of the family he born ?? how we can establish the worth of his so called secrets and his softwares without explaining all this .He is basing to support his claims that it is supported by BPHS some versions every one in world Knows BPHS has 100s of versions ( other intricasies i dont want to go tru in this tread ) even what ur guru teaches u is important than what version published by what publisher )do u or any one hear 10 version of varaha hora /or 24 versions of prashna maarga or even 30 versions phaldeepika ?? or any other ancient texts than some mistakes when translated or copied ? U r guru will guide u frm all this clutches right ??so why shud we digest his claims called i am sole holder of this secret and my software reveals every thing kind of claims without him prooving or without him allowing us to test it by reality than verbal blah blah Also other than phaladesh to do propitation and santhi karmas we need correct daignise of charts every cause there shud b a reason ,every effect there is a cause ,every action there will b a reaction ,karma cannot remove frm phala and in phaladesha in astrology .Did his reading of the chart explains any thing can he answer all this or the so called moderater who claims vast knowldge can he illuminate us Or does every one blvs astrologers are simple fortune tellers like road side foot path predictors without any need for content or study of their own .rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > Shame on such Moderators of Jyotish Groups and shame on such astrologers> who consider themselves as caretakers of Astrological sciences by> spurious degrees. This is the quality of astrological predictions done> on that idiots Group. I am going to expose all of them methodically one> by one, you dont worry. I will clean India from this dirty ruck of evil> people trotting on gullible innocent people in name of astrology.> > What a dirty use of astrology. Here that women is asking when her dumb> son will start speaking and this man in name of astrology says that the> boy was supposed to be killed , and if not now it is because he is going> to face a more deadlier yoga in futurer which will kill him. What is> the meaning of such predictions , is anybody hearing me ? Why are there> no courts in India to pull such people by their hair and put them live> in pits and cover it by sand ??? This poor women is asking when her son> will speak, and this nautanki astrologer instead of replying her the> answer to her query, is putting more fear in her. Why ? So that she may> contact him in private and then ............?????????????> > This must be stopped for heavens sake.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > dear group and respected members in List> >> >> > pls concentrate in discussion> >> > pls see the chart and see if it tallies with ur knowledge than which> > word shud b used mails> >> > also pls expose who ever comes and acting as custodian of ancient> > knowledge> > '> > without Gaurding our culture frm all evil elements we hav no right to> > say even its legacy> >> > so do ur duty to protect it frm all neo coined unprooved theorys> >> > i will come soon with my questions on this readings> >> > here the data of the kid and reading of shri vinay ji on it who even> > terrorised mother saying this child should hav died b4 ,is it allowed> by> > neeti satras to say so ?? is it allowed in astrology to say so when> they> > laid conditions for who can practise astrology ?> >> > astrology may b a hobby for many ,but it is not so> >> > it is outcome of highest thinking of tantrism .vedism and yoga> > philosophy of india> >> > pls dont allow any one to use it for quick fame or short cut to fame> by> > destroying it> >> > all this problems where instigated by a theoreticaly astrologicaly> > bankrupt moderater who uses his position to take revenges and malign> > other astrologers by hook or crook methods> >> > i also wanred him ever since one month tru personal mails ( asking him> > to step in and take action in case shri vinay ji cannot proov it ) and> > some mails in grp ( those mails withhold or deleted by him and> approved> > some selectiv edited mails to show to instigate problems )> >> > here is data of kid> > -------------------> >> > , "phone79@ " <phone79@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Hello,> > >> > > > I am new to this group,I have joined this group in hope that> someone> > will> > predict and sugeest some remedy,I have a three year old son who is not> > talking> > yet.His birth details are as follow> > >> > > > Date of Birth April 27 2006> > >> > > > Time 11:08 AM> > >> > > > Place Etobicoke canada> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Please predict when he would start to talk and what remedy is> there> > to get> > him to start talking.I will be highly thankful to you.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Kind Regards,> > >> > > > Priyanka> >> >> > here is reply of vinay ji> >> >> > Re: My 3 year old son is not talking yet,please predict> > Kundalee software shows Ketu sitting enmically in 2nd house of> maarakesh> > and> > voice, its MD running till 19-7-2013. Moon-Merc-Rahu in 8th give a> > deadly> > baalaarishta combination with Ketu in 2nd. Varsha pravesh kundalis are> > very bad> > with Ketu in trik places in all years of ketu MD except Apr 2009 to> Apr> > 2010> > when Ketu is samgrihi in 4th. Among 16 divisionals, Ketu is in trik> (bad> > houses)> > in 8 divisionals, esp in D24 which shows learning (speaking for a> kid),> > D9 which> > shows fortune in all fields, D27 which shows strength, D30 which shows> > arishta,> > etc !> >> > This boy has passed Ketu-Moon MD:AD which failed to kill the boy in> > spite of> > Ketu in 2 and Moon in 8, both being in enemy houses, Moon being lord> of> > 12 which> > is a killer combination if normal killers fail. This yoga failed> because> > more> > deadly combination is ahead : Ketu MD and Mercury AD (Saturn PD) in> mid> > 2013,> > at the end of Ketu MD. There are many arishtas before that too.> >> > If these arishtas are overcome, normal age is Amshaayu 54.4> (Rahu:Rahu)> > or> > Nisargaayu 84.2 (Sat:Sat), Pindayuu (Sat:Sun) ruled out due to benefic> > Sun.> >> > Immediate propitiation of Ketu must be started, till mid 2013 : fast> & c> > on> > Tuesday for Ketu, japa, etc.> >> > -VJ> >> >> > i will post some analaysis and pointers if all memebrs want to discuss> > this chart in this forum> >> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > Re: To set the record straight.> >> > Dear Bhagvathi ji,> >> > Lets not deviate from the issue.> >> > Lets not make a mountain from a mole hole. That word was deliberately> > used to put some stress on the poor mother who is suffering. You are> not> > ethical when you decide that the boy stays "Dumb" for whole Life,> which> > is not what I meant clearly. There is no need to envelope this fact> > which is tue for the present, which is why the mother was asking> > desperately from all the astrologers on the Group. Your hurt must> strike> > the right chord, by replying to that women when her child will speak> > rather than contemplating on what vocabulary one must use.> >> > You are not the only one who has compassion. We all have, perhaps I> may> > have more than you, Who knows this ?> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ,> "bhagavathi_hariharan"> > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > //At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb> > sincelast 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . //> > >> > > I am also following the thread on this in JR groups. The boy is only> > three and is still not speaking, for God's sake do not use the word> dumb> > on this child. It is too early to use such a term on this angel. It> > hurts me and perhaps might hurt many readers as well.> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >dear friends,> >> > This has appeared in the "Kabadi ki dukaan " group and was written by> > the moderator there.> >> > // it is also refreshing in the time now as the AIA team had a set> > agenda in a brief pretension of sharing or friendship in a TROJAN, to> > finish Vinai ji a> > reliable common source said. as they could not first establish a> > peaceful atmosphere and then set their agend to discuss , Even though> I> > had assured him he will not face such a situation here he was> > apprehensive defensive and.....//> >> > Since last one month this game of undermining this Group has been> played> > by the moderator there. He has always used those members who have left> > this group, to hit us back . He fires gun from their shoulders. In> short> > whatever is thrown away as garbage or discarded as of no value, he> > picks up and puts for display in his "kabadi ki dukaan".> >> > In this case Mr.Vinay got ample opportunities to prove himself in this> > group and in other Groups, but he could not. We are all witness to it.> > So who is at fault ? This Group or Mr.Vinay ? The Jyotish Remedies> > Moderator invited him there and put him atop the mountain peak by> > buttering him, using him as a launching pad for blasting this Group.> > Poor Mr.Vinay does not have this intelligence to understand that he is> > being used. This Group AIA has always remained a Justice minded,> > Diplomatic and a liberal platform for all astrologers who had> something> > worthwhile to speak of. Even Vinay was given a good opportunity here> but> > could not show the utility of his wares. So who is at fault ?> >> > At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb> since> > last 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . But unfortunately> > that Group has not a single astrologer to give her a contended> > understandable reply. None has been able to even find the cause for> the> > childs dumbness even after postmartems, forget them to give cure. They> > are taking that poor mother on a wild goose chase since long. Is this> > the quality of astrologers on the Group which the moderator of Jyotish> > remedies prides upon ? He has removed all good astrologers from there> > and the only ones remain there, to put fear and sell their wares in> > connivance with .....> >> > Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:respected Bhaskar jiThanks for taking up this fight with this kind of unwanted rogueelemnts who is in astrologyfirst of all they were not ready to discuss in real sastrartha way theirown grpthe so called best software in world cannot downloaded ,Its rasi anddgree positions is deviating drasticaly .No one in this world cannotrefute it or support it so long as it can b verifiedhe dont do any case study ,except tall claims that NASA and someUniversities approved it .R we waiting for NASA to approv our astrological knowledge and ancientsidhanthas ?? Or how many of u go to this sanskrit professors forreading ur chart ?? How many of them prooved even their real worth infrnd of intelligentia of india ?? Other than they hav done some academic study in some approved institutes and passed some examsconducted by them .How many sanskrit professers in reality can answereven our so called attackers of astrology ??Now he is terrorising a poor mother and also doing a sort of Post mortemreplyif his software is correct and devine like he claims ( as if he canguage the dieties tru his software - if planets r simple dieties andtheir physical position is unimportant then what is the use of asoftware ? what is the use of sidhanthas ,what is the use of amakarnada correction table .why u need to corrrect it ,what correction ur doing ?? why trignometry and sperical geometry is used to find dietiesand satans and devils )1) can he tell the physical featues of the boy2) can he tell why this boy is suffering ( due to which karma in pastlife ??)3) can he tell why the family is suffering because of this problem ( imean what is karmik connection or reason for thier suffering ?)4) can he tell why this boys soul search for this mother and family tofinish of and burn out his prarabda karmas ??5 ) what is the connection between this family and that boy in previousbirth ??6) can he tell other abilites of boy7 ) can he tell anything abt mom8 ) can he tell any thing abt his siblings9 ) can he tell anything abt the status of the family he born ?? how we can establish the worth of his so called secrets and hissoftwares without explaining all this .He is basing to support his claims that it is supported by BPHS someversionsevery one in world Knows BPHS has 100s of versions ( other intricasies idont want to go tru in this tread ) even what ur guru teaches u isimportant than what version published by what publisher )do u or any one hear 10 version of varaha hora /or 24 versions ofprashna maarga or even 30 versions phaldeepika ?? or any other ancienttexts than some mistakes when translated or copied ? U r guru will guide u frm all this clutches right ??so why shud we digest his claims called i am sole holder of this secretand my software reveals every thing kind of claims without himprooving or without him allowing us to test it by reality than verbalblah blahAlso other than phaladesh to do propitation and santhi karmas we needcorrect daignise of chartsevery cause there shud b a reason ,every effect there is a cause ,everyaction there will b a reaction ,karma cannot remove frm phala and inphaladesha in astrology .Did his reading of the chart explains any thingcan he answer all thisor the so called moderater who claims vast knowldge can he illuminate us Or does every one blvs astrologers are simple fortune tellers like roadside foot path predictors without any need for content or study of theirown .rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@wrote:>>> Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,>> Shame on such Moderators of Jyotish Groups and shame on suchastrologers> who consider themselves as caretakers of Astrological sciences by> spurious degrees. This is the quality of astrological predictions done> on that idiots Group. I am going to expose all of them methodicallyone> by one, you dont worry. I will clean India from this dirty ruck ofevil> people trotting on gullible innocent people in name of astrology.>> What a dirty use of astrology. Here that women is asking when her dumb> son will start speaking and this man in name of astrology says thatthe> boy was supposed to be killed , and if not now it is because he isgoing> to face a more deadlier yoga in futurer which will kill him. What is> the meaning of such predictions , is anybody hearing me ? Why arethere> no courts in India to pull such people by their hair and put them live> in pits and cover it by sand ??? This poor women is asking when herson> will speak, and this nautanki astrologer instead of replying her the> answer to her query, is putting more fear in her. Why ? So that shemay> contact him in private and then ............?????????????>> This must be stopped for heavens sake.>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > dear group and respected members in List> >> >> > pls concentrate in discussion> >> > pls see the chart and see if it tallies with ur knowledge than which> > word shud b used mails> >> > also pls expose who ever comes and acting as custodian of ancient> > knowledge> > '> > without Gaurding our culture frm all evil elements we hav no rightto> > say even its legacy> >> > so do ur duty to protect it frm all neo coined unprooved theorys> >> > i will come soon with my questions on this readings> >> > here the data of the kid and reading of shri vinay ji on it who even> > terrorised mother saying this child should hav died b4 ,is itallowed> by> > neeti satras to say so ?? is it allowed in astrology to say so when> they> > laid conditions for who can practise astrology ?> >> > astrology may b a hobby for many ,but it is not so> >> > it is outcome of highest thinking of tantrism .vedism and yoga> > philosophy of india> >> > pls dont allow any one to use it for quick fame or short cut to fame> by> > destroying it> >> > all this problems where instigated by a theoreticaly astrologicaly> > bankrupt moderater who uses his position to take revenges and malign> > other astrologers by hook or crook methods> >> > i also wanred him ever since one month tru personal mails ( askinghim> > to step in and take action in case shri vinay ji cannot proov it )and> > some mails in grp ( those mails withhold or deleted by him and> approved> > some selectiv edited mails to show to instigate problems )> >> > here is data of kid> > -------------------> >> > , "phone79@ " <phone79@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Hello,> > >> > > > I am new to this group,I have joined this group in hope that> someone> > will> > predict and sugeest some remedy,I have a three year old son who isnot> > talking> > yet.His birth details are as follow> > >> > > > Date of Birth April 27 2006> > >> > > > Time 11:08 AM> > >> > > > Place Etobicoke canada> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Please predict when he would start to talk and what remedy is> there> > to get> > him to start talking.I will be highly thankful to you.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Kind Regards,> > >> > > > Priyanka> >> >> > here is reply of vinay ji> >> >> > Re: My 3 year old son is not talking yet,please predict> > Kundalee software shows Ketu sitting enmically in 2nd house of> maarakesh> > and> > voice, its MD running till 19-7-2013. Moon-Merc-Rahu in 8th give a> > deadly> > baalaarishta combination with Ketu in 2nd. Varsha pravesh kundalisare> > very bad> > with Ketu in trik places in all years of ketu MD except Apr 2009 to> Apr> > 2010> > when Ketu is samgrihi in 4th. Among 16 divisionals, Ketu is in trik> (bad> > houses)> > in 8 divisionals, esp in D24 which shows learning (speaking for a> kid),> > D9 which> > shows fortune in all fields, D27 which shows strength, D30 whichshows> > arishta,> > etc !> >> > This boy has passed Ketu-Moon MD:AD which failed to kill the boy in> > spite of> > Ketu in 2 and Moon in 8, both being in enemy houses, Moon being lord> of> > 12 which> > is a killer combination if normal killers fail. This yoga failed> because> > more> > deadly combination is ahead : Ketu MD and Mercury AD (Saturn PD) in> mid> > 2013,> > at the end of Ketu MD. There are many arishtas before that too.> >> > If these arishtas are overcome, normal age is Amshaayu 54.4> (Rahu:Rahu)> > or> > Nisargaayu 84.2 (Sat:Sat), Pindayuu (Sat:Sun) ruled out due tobenefic> > Sun.> >> > Immediate propitiation of Ketu must be started, till mid 2013 : fast> & c> > on> > Tuesday for Ketu, japa, etc.> >> > -VJ> >> >> > i will post some analaysis and pointers if all memebrs want todiscuss> > this chart in this forum> >> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > Re: To set the record straight.> >> > Dear Bhagvathi ji,> >> > Lets not deviate from the issue.> >> > Lets not make a mountain from a mole hole. That word wasdeliberately> > used to put some stress on the poor mother who is suffering. You are> not> > ethical when you decide that the boy stays "Dumb" for whole Life,> which> > is not what I meant clearly. There is no need to envelope this fact> > which is tue for the present, which is why the mother was asking> > desperately from all the astrologers on the Group. Your hurt must> strike> > the right chord, by replying to that women when her child will speak> > rather than contemplating on what vocabulary one must use.> >> > You are not the only one who has compassion. We all have, perhaps I> may> > have more than you, Who knows this ?> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ,> "bhagavathi_hariharan"> > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > //At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who isdumb> > sincelast 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . //> > >> > > I am also following the thread on this in JR groups. The boy isonly> > three and is still not speaking, for God's sake do not use the word> dumb> > on this child. It is too early to use such a term on this angel. It> > hurts me and perhaps might hurt many readers as well.> > >> > > Regards,> > > bhagavathi> > >dear friends,> >> > This has appeared in the "Kabadi ki dukaan " group and was writtenby> > the moderator there.> >> > // it is also refreshing in the time now as the AIA team had a set> > agenda in a brief pretension of sharing or friendship in a TROJAN,to> > finish Vinai ji a> > reliable common source said. as they could not first establish a> > peaceful atmosphere and then set their agend to discuss , Eventhough> I> > had assured him he will not face such a situation here he was> > apprehensive defensive and.....//> >> > Since last one month this game of undermining this Group has been> played> > by the moderator there. He has always used those members who haveleft> > this group, to hit us back . He fires gun from their shoulders. In> short> > whatever is thrown away as garbage or discarded as of no value, he> > picks up and puts for display in his "kabadi ki dukaan".> >> > In this case Mr.Vinay got ample opportunities to prove himself inthis> > group and in other Groups, but he could not. We are all witness toit.> > So who is at fault ? This Group or Mr.Vinay ? The Jyotish Remedies> > Moderator invited him there and put him atop the mountain peak by> > buttering him, using him as a launching pad for blasting this Group.> > Poor Mr.Vinay does not have this intelligence to understand that heis> > being used. This Group AIA has always remained a Justice minded,> > Diplomatic and a liberal platform for all astrologers who had> something> > worthwhile to speak of. Even Vinay was given a good opportunity here> but> > could not show the utility of his wares. So who is at fault ?> >> > At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb> since> > last 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . Butunfortunately> > that Group has not a single astrologer to give her a contended> > understandable reply. None has been able to even find the cause for> the> > childs dumbness even after postmartems, forget them to give cure.They> > are taking that poor mother on a wild goose chase since long. Isthis> > the quality of astrologers on the Group which the moderator ofJyotish> > remedies prides upon ? He has removed all good astrologers fromthere> > and the only ones remain there, to put fear and sell their wares in> > connivance with .....> >> > Bhaskar.> >>--- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, It is the Media who makes heroes of villains like the D Company Bhai, now sitting in Lahore and controlling crime in India. In same way it is Moderators of Jyotish groups like Jyotish remedies who make idiots into astrologers by allowing them to have a free run on the Groups they moderate. If You remember he also allowed that psycopath LM to run free there and predict to gullible innocent members . Not only the present VJ in question, but there are also young boys who just have read few pages from 20 books and made a khichdi of same and now trying to act as " Saviours " on that Group. Why ? Because it feels nice to be a " Andhon mein Kana Raja " which feeling that man gets when he is moderating such a crowd of astrologers on his Group. No serious discussions. No serious topic to discuss. No knowledgable astrologers. Nobody to care. If the Rakshak becomes Bkakshak, what one can do. It was his duty not to allow nausikhiyas to predict there and become self styled astrologers, but he does not have such type of brains to understand . That one Group in a span of one year has spoilt the whole of astrological community and put the astrologers to shame with every Tom Dick and Harry posing as one great astrologer and thus bringing a bad name to this great divine science. Iknew he does not care for that Group, which was very much evident when he put a abuse File in the File Sections of the Group. No sane man would ever do this who cares for the divinity of astrology. Unfortunately since that man has become the Moderator there, there is only one agenda perpetrated by him . " Hate and Venedetta out of zealousy " . The latest byproduct of that Group who considers himself as an astrologer, I knew it 2 months back, that he could not predict even the basic of a Chart, forget events or the major departments of Life. He is a big mouth, pompous man, and wants to be known as a Great Charitable man who has given the worlds best software for free, a Great Brahmachaari, a Great Sanyaasi, and a man with power of Brahma vaakya. Now see how the moderator fuels fire in our relations with this by product and creates fight between all of us using this mans shoulders. This spienless moderator could never fight straight, with tarka, kutarka, but always used others , and especially those whom we opposed, to create a army for free to fight for him. This moderator has been silently contacting many members of various Groups since last one year and spreading hate against me, looking for their support. I have on records that he has also sent a lot of information to a lady Moderator, so that tthe lady Moderator of a Group could fight with me legally. Unfortunately he always failed in his devious plans and instead of him providing info.about me, it was always the other way round. Members used to inform me always what he was upto. Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > respected Bhaskar ji > > Thanks for taking up this fight with this kind of unwanted rogue > elemnts who is in astrology > > first of all they were not ready to discuss in real sastrartha way their > own grp > > the so called best software in world cannot downloaded ,Its rasi and > dgree positions is deviating drasticaly .No one in this world cannot > refute it or support it so long as it can b verified > > he dont do any case study ,except tall claims that NASA and some > Universities approved it . > > R we waiting for NASA to approv our astrological knowledge and ancient > sidhanthas ?? Or how many of u go to this sanskrit professors for > reading ur chart ?? How many of them prooved even their real worth in > frnd of intelligentia of india ?? Other than they hav done some > academic study in some approved institutes and passed some exams > conducted by them .How many sanskrit professers in reality can answer > even our so called attackers of astrology ?? > > Now he is terrorising a poor mother and also doing a sort of Post mortem > reply > > if his software is correct and devine like he claims ( as if he can > guage the dieties tru his software - if planets r simple dieties and > their physical position is unimportant then what is the use of a > software ? what is the use of sidhanthas ,what is the use of a > makarnada correction table .why u need to corrrect it ,what correction u > r doing ?? why trignometry and sperical geometry is used to find dieties > and satans and devils ) > > 1) can he tell the physical featues of the boy > > 2) can he tell why this boy is suffering ( due to which karma in past > life ??) > > 3) can he tell why the family is suffering because of this problem ( i > mean what is karmik connection or reason for thier suffering ?) > > 4) can he tell why this boys soul search for this mother and family to > finish of and burn out his prarabda karmas ?? > > 5 ) what is the connection between this family and that boy in previous > birth ?? > > 6) can he tell other abilites of boy > > 7 ) can he tell anything abt mom > > 8 ) can he tell any thing abt his siblings > > 9 ) can he tell anything abt the status of the family he born ?? > > how we can establish the worth of his so called secrets and his > softwares without explaining all this . > He is basing to support his claims that it is supported by BPHS some > versions > > every one in world Knows BPHS has 100s of versions ( other intricasies i > dont want to go tru in this tread ) even what ur guru teaches u is > important than what version published by what publisher ) > > do u or any one hear 10 version of varaha hora /or 24 versions of > prashna maarga or even 30 versions phaldeepika ?? or any other ancient > texts than some mistakes when translated or copied ? > > U r guru will guide u frm all this clutches right ?? > > so why shud we digest his claims called i am sole holder of this secret > and my software reveals every thing kind of claims without him > prooving or without him allowing us to test it by reality than verbal > blah blah > > Also other than phaladesh to do propitation and santhi karmas we need > correct daignise of charts > > every cause there shud b a reason ,every effect there is a cause ,every > action there will b a reaction ,karma cannot remove frm phala and in > phaladesha in astrology .Did his reading of the chart explains any thing > > can he answer all this > > or the so called moderater who claims vast knowldge can he illuminate us > > Or does every one blvs astrologers are simple fortune tellers like road > side foot path predictors without any need for content or study of their > own . > > rgrds sunil nair > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > Shame on such Moderators of Jyotish Groups and shame on such > astrologers > > who consider themselves as caretakers of Astrological sciences by > > spurious degrees. This is the quality of astrological predictions done > > on that idiots Group. I am going to expose all of them methodically > one > > by one, you dont worry. I will clean India from this dirty ruck of > evil > > people trotting on gullible innocent people in name of astrology. > > > > What a dirty use of astrology. Here that women is asking when her dumb > > son will start speaking and this man in name of astrology says that > the > > boy was supposed to be killed , and if not now it is because he is > going > > to face a more deadlier yoga in futurer which will kill him. What is > > the meaning of such predictions , is anybody hearing me ? Why are > there > > no courts in India to pull such people by their hair and put them live > > in pits and cover it by sand ??? This poor women is asking when her > son > > will speak, and this nautanki astrologer instead of replying her the > > answer to her query, is putting more fear in her. Why ? So that she > may > > contact him in private and then ............????????????? > > > > This must be stopped for heavens sake. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear group and respected members in List > > > > > > > > > pls concentrate in discussion > > > > > > pls see the chart and see if it tallies with ur knowledge than which > > > word shud b used mails > > > > > > also pls expose who ever comes and acting as custodian of ancient > > > knowledge > > > ' > > > without Gaurding our culture frm all evil elements we hav no right > to > > > say even its legacy > > > > > > so do ur duty to protect it frm all neo coined unprooved theorys > > > > > > i will come soon with my questions on this readings > > > > > > here the data of the kid and reading of shri vinay ji on it who even > > > terrorised mother saying this child should hav died b4 ,is it > allowed > > by > > > neeti satras to say so ?? is it allowed in astrology to say so when > > they > > > laid conditions for who can practise astrology ? > > > > > > astrology may b a hobby for many ,but it is not so > > > > > > it is outcome of highest thinking of tantrism .vedism and yoga > > > philosophy of india > > > > > > pls dont allow any one to use it for quick fame or short cut to fame > > by > > > destroying it > > > > > > all this problems where instigated by a theoreticaly astrologicaly > > > bankrupt moderater who uses his position to take revenges and malign > > > other astrologers by hook or crook methods > > > > > > i also wanred him ever since one month tru personal mails ( asking > him > > > to step in and take action in case shri vinay ji cannot proov it ) > and > > > some mails in grp ( those mails withhold or deleted by him and > > approved > > > some selectiv edited mails to show to instigate problems ) > > > > > > here is data of kid > > > ------------------- > > > > > > , " phone79@ " <phone79@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > I am new to this group,I have joined this group in hope that > > someone > > > will > > > predict and sugeest some remedy,I have a three year old son who is > not > > > talking > > > yet.His birth details are as follow > > > > > > > > > Date of Birth April 27 2006 > > > > > > > > > Time 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > Place Etobicoke canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please predict when he would start to talk and what remedy is > > there > > > to get > > > him to start talking.I will be highly thankful to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > Priyanka > > > > > > > > > here is reply of vinay ji > > > > > > > > > Re: My 3 year old son is not talking yet,please predict > > > Kundalee software shows Ketu sitting enmically in 2nd house of > > maarakesh > > > and > > > voice, its MD running till 19-7-2013. Moon-Merc-Rahu in 8th give a > > > deadly > > > baalaarishta combination with Ketu in 2nd. Varsha pravesh kundalis > are > > > very bad > > > with Ketu in trik places in all years of ketu MD except Apr 2009 to > > Apr > > > 2010 > > > when Ketu is samgrihi in 4th. Among 16 divisionals, Ketu is in trik > > (bad > > > houses) > > > in 8 divisionals, esp in D24 which shows learning (speaking for a > > kid), > > > D9 which > > > shows fortune in all fields, D27 which shows strength, D30 which > shows > > > arishta, > > > etc ! > > > > > > This boy has passed Ketu-Moon MD:AD which failed to kill the boy in > > > spite of > > > Ketu in 2 and Moon in 8, both being in enemy houses, Moon being lord > > of > > > 12 which > > > is a killer combination if normal killers fail. This yoga failed > > because > > > more > > > deadly combination is ahead : Ketu MD and Mercury AD (Saturn PD) in > > mid > > > 2013, > > > at the end of Ketu MD. There are many arishtas before that too. > > > > > > If these arishtas are overcome, normal age is Amshaayu 54.4 > > (Rahu:Rahu) > > > or > > > Nisargaayu 84.2 (Sat:Sat), Pindayuu (Sat:Sun) ruled out due to > benefic > > > Sun. > > > > > > Immediate propitiation of Ketu must be started, till mid 2013 : fast > > & c > > > on > > > Tuesday for Ketu, japa, etc. > > > > > > -VJ > > > > > > > > > i will post some analaysis and pointers if all memebrs want to > discuss > > > this chart in this forum > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > Re: To set the record straight. > > > > > > Dear Bhagvathi ji, > > > > > > Lets not deviate from the issue. > > > > > > Lets not make a mountain from a mole hole. That word was > deliberately > > > used to put some stress on the poor mother who is suffering. You are > > not > > > ethical when you decide that the boy stays " Dumb " for whole Life, > > which > > > is not what I meant clearly. There is no need to envelope this fact > > > which is tue for the present, which is why the mother was asking > > > desperately from all the astrologers on the Group. Your hurt must > > strike > > > the right chord, by replying to that women when her child will speak > > > rather than contemplating on what vocabulary one must use. > > > > > > You are not the only one who has compassion. We all have, perhaps I > > may > > > have more than you, Who knows this ? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " bhagavathi_hariharan " > > > bhagavathi_hariharan@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > //At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is > dumb > > > sincelast 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . // > > > > > > > > I am also following the thread on this in JR groups. The boy is > only > > > three and is still not speaking, for God's sake do not use the word > > dumb > > > on this child. It is too early to use such a term on this angel. It > > > hurts me and perhaps might hurt many readers as well. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > bhagavathi > > > >dear friends, > > > > > > This has appeared in the " Kabadi ki dukaan " group and was written > by > > > the moderator there. > > > > > > // it is also refreshing in the time now as the AIA team had a set > > > agenda in a brief pretension of sharing or friendship in a TROJAN, > to > > > finish Vinai ji a > > > reliable common source said. as they could not first establish a > > > peaceful atmosphere and then set their agend to discuss , Even > though > > I > > > had assured him he will not face such a situation here he was > > > apprehensive defensive and.....// > > > > > > Since last one month this game of undermining this Group has been > > played > > > by the moderator there. He has always used those members who have > left > > > this group, to hit us back . He fires gun from their shoulders. In > > short > > > whatever is thrown away as garbage or discarded as of no value, he > > > picks up and puts for display in his " kabadi ki dukaan " . > > > > > > In this case Mr.Vinay got ample opportunities to prove himself in > this > > > group and in other Groups, but he could not. We are all witness to > it. > > > So who is at fault ? This Group or Mr.Vinay ? The Jyotish Remedies > > > Moderator invited him there and put him atop the mountain peak by > > > buttering him, using him as a launching pad for blasting this Group. > > > Poor Mr.Vinay does not have this intelligence to understand that he > is > > > being used. This Group AIA has always remained a Justice minded, > > > Diplomatic and a liberal platform for all astrologers who had > > something > > > worthwhile to speak of. Even Vinay was given a good opportunity here > > but > > > could not show the utility of his wares. So who is at fault ? > > > > > > At the moment one poor lady is asking about her child who is dumb > > since > > > last 3 years and wishes to know when he can speak . But > unfortunately > > > that Group has not a single astrologer to give her a contended > > > understandable reply. None has been able to even find the cause for > > the > > > childs dumbness even after postmartems, forget them to give cure. > They > > > are taking that poor mother on a wild goose chase since long. Is > this > > > the quality of astrologers on the Group which the moderator of > Jyotish > > > remedies prides upon ? He has removed all good astrologers from > there > > > and the only ones remain there, to put fear and sell their wares in > > > connivance with ..... > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 dear grp this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to interfere and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to make him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i said i dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims ) then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free predictions by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely avilable in net and degrade astrology u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by asking me study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king and i am helpless creature in his kingdom sunil nair i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good astrologers in this mail i am re producing here with my comnts --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumarchandra in Makara over Nodes"sunil nair" <astro_tellerkeralaFriday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AMDear Sunil,I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my mails or u r not interfering here )I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on it so have given him time on itmeantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study is not GOOD ENOUGHSO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM TIME BUT will continue to push him to demonstratehe trhen shifted to weatherPL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he can know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first for my demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has suresh babu and others( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of mails got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles without no mention of any names and that time moon was no where near rahu--sunil nair )i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself, how long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to reply to some silly mails in them( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but he wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and it is my duty ) first then let him learn it than he with his own intelleignce can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even may b for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the time till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in monthly basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in mean time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both when chandra is Kumbha or meena(U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am some guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he reports problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter it as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and he is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm grp ,we traced such various activities to him ) i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep for the past 28 monthsbefore my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again monotous fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A GIVEN APPOINTMENT for days we r stuckPrashant , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > It is the Media who makes heroes of villains like the D Company Bhai,> now sitting in Lahore and controlling crime in India.> > In same way it is Moderators of Jyotish groups like Jyotish remedies who> make idiots into astrologers by allowing them to have a free run on the> Groups they moderate. If You remember he also allowed that psycopath LM> to run free there and predict to gullible innocent members . Not only> the present VJ in question, but there are also young boys who just have> read few pages from 20 books and made a khichdi of same and now trying> to act as "Saviours" on that Group. Why ? Because it feels nice to be a> "Andhon mein Kana Raja" which feeling that man gets when he is> moderating such a crowd of astrologers on his Group. No serious> discussions. No serious topic to discuss. No knowledgable astrologers.> Nobody to care. If the Rakshak becomes Bkakshak, what one can do. It was> his duty not to allow nausikhiyas to predict there and become self> styled astrologers, but he does not have such type of brains to> understand . That one Group in a span of one year has spoilt the whole> of astrological community and put the astrologers to shame with every> Tom Dick and Harry posing as one great astrologer and thus bringing a> bad name to this great divine science. Iknew he does not care for that> Group, which was very much evident when he put a abuse File in the File> Sections of the Group. No sane man would ever do this who cares for the> divinity of astrology. Unfortunately since that man has become the> Moderator there, there is only one agenda perpetrated by him . " Hate> and Venedetta out of zealousy ".> > The latest byproduct of that Group who considers himself as an> astrologer, I knew it 2 months back, that he could not predict even the> basic of a Chart, forget events or the major departments of Life. He is> a big mouth, pompous man, and wants to be known as a Great Charitable> man who has given the worlds best software for free, a Great> Brahmachaari, a Great Sanyaasi, and a man with power of Brahma vaakya.> > Now see how the moderator fuels fire in our relations with this by> product and creates fight between all of us using this mans shoulders.> This spienless moderator could never fight straight, with tarka,> kutarka, but always used others , and especially those whom we opposed,> to create a army for free to fight for him. This moderator has been> silently contacting many members of various Groups since last one year> and spreading hate against me, looking for their support. I have on> records that he has also sent a lot of information to a lady Moderator,> so that tthe lady Moderator of a Group could fight with me legally.> Unfortunately he always failed in his devious plans and instead of him> providing info.about me, it was always the other way round. Members used> to inform me always what he was upto.> > Bhaskar.> > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > respected Bhaskar ji> >> > Thanks for taking up this fight with this kind of unwanted rogue> > elemnts who is in astrology> >> > first of all they were not ready to discuss in real sastrartha way> their> > own grp> >> > the so called best software in world cannot downloaded ,Its rasi and> > dgree positions is deviating drasticaly .No one in this world cannot> > refute it or support it so long as it can b verified> >> > he dont do any case study ,except tall claims that NASA and some> > Universities approved it .> >> > R we waiting for NASA to approv our astrological knowledge and ancient> > sidhanthas ?? Or how many of u go to this sanskrit professors for> > reading ur chart ?? How many of them prooved even their real worth in> > frnd of intelligentia of india ?? Other than they hav done some> > academic study in some approved institutes and passed some exams> > conducted by them .How many sanskrit professers in reality can answer> > even our so called attackers of astrology ??> >> > Now he is terrorising a poor mother and also doing a sort of Post> mortem> > reply> >> > if his software is correct and devine like he claims ( as if he can> > guage the dieties tru his software - if planets r simple dieties and> > their physical position is unimportant then what is the use of a> > software ? what is the use of sidhanthas ,what is the use of a> > makarnada correction table .why u need to corrrect it ,what correction> u> > r doing ?? why trignometry and sperical geometry is used to find> dieties> > and satans and devils )> >> > 1) can he tell the physical featues of the boy> >> > 2) can he tell why this boy is suffering ( due to which karma in past> > life ??)> >> > 3) can he tell why the family is suffering because of this problem ( i> > mean what is karmik connection or reason for thier suffering ?)> >> > 4) can he tell why this boys soul search for this mother and family to> > finish of and burn out his prarabda karmas ??> >> > 5 ) what is the connection between this family and that boy in> previous> > birth ??> >> > 6) can he tell other abilites of boy> >> > 7 ) can he tell anything abt mom> >> > 8 ) can he tell any thing abt his siblings> >> > 9 ) can he tell anything abt the status of the family he born ??> >> > how we can establish the worth of his so called secrets and his> > softwares without explaining all this .> > He is basing to support his claims that it is supported by BPHS some> > versions> >> > every one in world Knows BPHS has 100s of versions ( other intricasies> i> > dont want to go tru in this tread ) even what ur guru teaches u is> > important than what version published by what publisher )> >> > do u or any one hear 10 version of varaha hora /or 24 versions of> > prashna maarga or even 30 versions phaldeepika ?? or any other ancient> > texts than some mistakes when translated or copied ?> >> > U r guru will guide u frm all this clutches right ??> >> > so why shud we digest his claims called i am sole holder of this> secret> > and my software reveals every thing kind of claims without him> > prooving or without him allowing us to test it by reality than verbal> > blah blah> >> > Also other than phaladesh to do propitation and santhi karmas we need> > correct daignise of charts> >> > every cause there shud b a reason ,every effect there is a cause> ,every> > action there will b a reaction ,karma cannot remove frm phala and in> > phaladesha in astrology .Did his reading of the chart explains any> thing> >> > can he answer all this> >> > or the so called moderater who claims vast knowldge can he illuminate> us> >> > Or does every one blvs astrologers are simple fortune tellers like> road> > side foot path predictors without any need for content or study of> their> > own .> >> > rgrds sunil nair> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writing in that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails in retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use them as a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to moderate me. Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did not want me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the roost there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and removing smart astrologers methodically one by one. regards, Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > dear grp > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to interfere > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to make > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i said i > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims ) > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free predictions > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely avilable > in net and degrade astrology > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by asking me > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king and i > am helpless creature in his kingdom > > sunil nair > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good > astrologers in this mail > > i am re producing here with my comnts > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar > chandra in Makara over Nodes > " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM > > Dear Sunil, > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my mails > or u r not interfering here ) > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on it > so have given him time on it > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study is > not GOOD ENOUGH > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM TIME > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate > > he trhen shifted to weather > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he can > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first for my > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair } > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has > suresh babu and others > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of mails > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles without no > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near rahu--sunil > nair ) > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself, how > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to > reply to some silly mails in them > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but he > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and it is > my duty ) first then let him learn it than he with his own intelleignce > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even may b > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the time > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in monthly > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology ) > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in mean > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both > when chandra is Kumbha or meena > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am some > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he reports > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter it > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and he > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm grp > ,we traced such various activities to him ) > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep for > the past 28 months > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again monotous > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A GIVEN > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck > > Prashant > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > It is the Media who makes heroes of villains like the D Company Bhai, > > now sitting in Lahore and controlling crime in India. > > > > In same way it is Moderators of Jyotish groups like Jyotish remedies > who > > make idiots into astrologers by allowing them to have a free run on > the > > Groups they moderate. If You remember he also allowed that psycopath > LM > > to run free there and predict to gullible innocent members . Not only > > the present VJ in question, but there are also young boys who just > have > > read few pages from 20 books and made a khichdi of same and now trying > > to act as " Saviours " on that Group. Why ? Because it feels nice to be > a > > " Andhon mein Kana Raja " which feeling that man gets when he is > > moderating such a crowd of astrologers on his Group. No serious > > discussions. No serious topic to discuss. No knowledgable astrologers. > > Nobody to care. If the Rakshak becomes Bkakshak, what one can do. It > was > > his duty not to allow nausikhiyas to predict there and become self > > styled astrologers, but he does not have such type of brains to > > understand . That one Group in a span of one year has spoilt the whole > > of astrological community and put the astrologers to shame with every > > Tom Dick and Harry posing as one great astrologer and thus bringing a > > bad name to this great divine science. Iknew he does not care for that > > Group, which was very much evident when he put a abuse File in the > File > > Sections of the Group. No sane man would ever do this who cares for > the > > divinity of astrology. Unfortunately since that man has become the > > Moderator there, there is only one agenda perpetrated by him . " Hate > > and Venedetta out of zealousy " . > > > > The latest byproduct of that Group who considers himself as an > > astrologer, I knew it 2 months back, that he could not predict even > the > > basic of a Chart, forget events or the major departments of Life. He > is > > a big mouth, pompous man, and wants to be known as a Great Charitable > > man who has given the worlds best software for free, a Great > > Brahmachaari, a Great Sanyaasi, and a man with power of Brahma vaakya. > > > > Now see how the moderator fuels fire in our relations with this by > > product and creates fight between all of us using this mans shoulders. > > This spienless moderator could never fight straight, with tarka, > > kutarka, but always used others , and especially those whom we > opposed, > > to create a army for free to fight for him. This moderator has been > > silently contacting many members of various Groups since last one year > > and spreading hate against me, looking for their support. I have on > > records that he has also sent a lot of information to a lady > Moderator, > > so that tthe lady Moderator of a Group could fight with me legally. > > Unfortunately he always failed in his devious plans and instead of him > > providing info.about me, it was always the other way round. Members > used > > to inform me always what he was upto. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > respected Bhaskar ji > > > > > > Thanks for taking up this fight with this kind of unwanted rogue > > > elemnts who is in astrology > > > > > > first of all they were not ready to discuss in real sastrartha way > > their > > > own grp > > > > > > the so called best software in world cannot downloaded ,Its rasi and > > > dgree positions is deviating drasticaly .No one in this world cannot > > > refute it or support it so long as it can b verified > > > > > > he dont do any case study ,except tall claims that NASA and some > > > Universities approved it . > > > > > > R we waiting for NASA to approv our astrological knowledge and > ancient > > > sidhanthas ?? Or how many of u go to this sanskrit professors for > > > reading ur chart ?? How many of them prooved even their real worth > in > > > frnd of intelligentia of india ?? Other than they hav done some > > > academic study in some approved institutes and passed some exams > > > conducted by them .How many sanskrit professers in reality can > answer > > > even our so called attackers of astrology ?? > > > > > > Now he is terrorising a poor mother and also doing a sort of Post > > mortem > > > reply > > > > > > if his software is correct and devine like he claims ( as if he can > > > guage the dieties tru his software - if planets r simple dieties and > > > their physical position is unimportant then what is the use of a > > > software ? what is the use of sidhanthas ,what is the use of a > > > makarnada correction table .why u need to corrrect it ,what > correction > > u > > > r doing ?? why trignometry and sperical geometry is used to find > > dieties > > > and satans and devils ) > > > > > > 1) can he tell the physical featues of the boy > > > > > > 2) can he tell why this boy is suffering ( due to which karma in > past > > > life ??) > > > > > > 3) can he tell why the family is suffering because of this problem ( > i > > > mean what is karmik connection or reason for thier suffering ?) > > > > > > 4) can he tell why this boys soul search for this mother and family > to > > > finish of and burn out his prarabda karmas ?? > > > > > > 5 ) what is the connection between this family and that boy in > > previous > > > birth ?? > > > > > > 6) can he tell other abilites of boy > > > > > > 7 ) can he tell anything abt mom > > > > > > 8 ) can he tell any thing abt his siblings > > > > > > 9 ) can he tell anything abt the status of the family he born ?? > > > > > > how we can establish the worth of his so called secrets and his > > > softwares without explaining all this . > > > He is basing to support his claims that it is supported by BPHS some > > > versions > > > > > > every one in world Knows BPHS has 100s of versions ( other > intricasies > > i > > > dont want to go tru in this tread ) even what ur guru teaches u is > > > important than what version published by what publisher ) > > > > > > do u or any one hear 10 version of varaha hora /or 24 versions of > > > prashna maarga or even 30 versions phaldeepika ?? or any other > ancient > > > texts than some mistakes when translated or copied ? > > > > > > U r guru will guide u frm all this clutches right ?? > > > > > > so why shud we digest his claims called i am sole holder of this > > secret > > > and my software reveals every thing kind of claims without him > > > prooving or without him allowing us to test it by reality than > verbal > > > blah blah > > > > > > Also other than phaladesh to do propitation and santhi karmas we > need > > > correct daignise of charts > > > > > > every cause there shud b a reason ,every effect there is a cause > > ,every > > > action there will b a reaction ,karma cannot remove frm phala and in > > > phaladesha in astrology .Did his reading of the chart explains any > > thing > > > > > > can he answer all this > > > > > > or the so called moderater who claims vast knowldge can he > illuminate > > us > > > > > > Or does every one blvs astrologers are simple fortune tellers like > > road > > > side foot path predictors without any need for content or study of > > their > > > own . > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 respected Bhaskar ji Sure ,Thanks sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some grps even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums .Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly making it as a gutter but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of that person .let him ban me frm his grp if he want rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writing in> that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails in> retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use them as> a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to> moderate me.> > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did not want> me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the roost> there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and removing> smart astrologers methodically one by one.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > dear grp> >> > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days> > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to interfere> > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to make> > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts> >> > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i said i> > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims )> >> > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free predictions> > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by> > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely avilable> > in net and degrade astrology> >> > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by asking me> > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king and> i> > am helpless creature in his kingdom> >> > sunil nair> >> > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good> > astrologers in this mail> >> > i am re producing here with my comnts> >> > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:> >> > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@> > chandra in Makara over Nodes> > "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@> > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM> >> > Dear Sunil,> >> > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements> >> > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my> mails> > or u r not interfering here )> >> > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on it> > so have given him time on it> > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on> > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study> is> > not GOOD ENOUGH> > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM TIME> > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate> >> > he trhen shifted to weather> >> > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it> >> > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he can> > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first for> my> > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }> >> > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has> > suresh babu and others> >> > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of> mails> > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles without no> > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near rahu--sunil> > nair )> >> > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself, how> > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to> > reply to some silly mails in them> >> > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor> > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to> > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but> he> > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and it> is> > my duty ) first then let him learn it than he with his own> intelleignce> > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even may b> > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps> > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the time> > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in> monthly> > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )> >> > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with> > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in> mean> > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both> > when chandra is Kumbha or meena> >> > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am> some> > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp> > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he reports> > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and> > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter it> > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and> he> > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm> grp> > ,we traced such various activities to him )> >> >> > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep for> > the past 28 months> > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again> monotous> > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A GIVEN> > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck> >> > Prashant> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > >> > > It is the Media who makes heroes of villains like the D Company> Bhai,> > > now sitting in Lahore and controlling crime in India.> > >> > > In same way it is Moderators of Jyotish groups like Jyotish remedies> > who> > > make idiots into astrologers by allowing them to have a free run on> > the> > > Groups they moderate. If You remember he also allowed that psycopath> > LM> > > to run free there and predict to gullible innocent members . Not> only> > > the present VJ in question, but there are also young boys who just> > have> > > read few pages from 20 books and made a khichdi of same and now> trying> > > to act as "Saviours" on that Group. Why ? Because it feels nice to> be> > a> > > "Andhon mein Kana Raja" which feeling that man gets when he is> > > moderating such a crowd of astrologers on his Group. No serious> > > discussions. No serious topic to discuss. No knowledgable> astrologers.> > > Nobody to care. If the Rakshak becomes Bkakshak, what one can do. It> > was> > > his duty not to allow nausikhiyas to predict there and become self> > > styled astrologers, but he does not have such type of brains to> > > understand . That one Group in a span of one year has spoilt the> whole> > > of astrological community and put the astrologers to shame with> every> > > Tom Dick and Harry posing as one great astrologer and thus bringing> a> > > bad name to this great divine science. Iknew he does not care for> that> > > Group, which was very much evident when he put a abuse File in the> > File> > > Sections of the Group. No sane man would ever do this who cares for> > the> > > divinity of astrology. Unfortunately since that man has become the> > > Moderator there, there is only one agenda perpetrated by him . "> Hate> > > and Venedetta out of zealousy ".> > >> > > The latest byproduct of that Group who considers himself as an> > > astrologer, I knew it 2 months back, that he could not predict even> > the> > > basic of a Chart, forget events or the major departments of Life. He> > is> > > a big mouth, pompous man, and wants to be known as a Great> Charitable> > > man who has given the worlds best software for free, a Great> > > Brahmachaari, a Great Sanyaasi, and a man with power of Brahma> vaakya.> > >> > > Now see how the moderator fuels fire in our relations with this by> > > product and creates fight between all of us using this mans> shoulders.> > > This spienless moderator could never fight straight, with tarka,> > > kutarka, but always used others , and especially those whom we> > opposed,> > > to create a army for free to fight for him. This moderator has been> > > silently contacting many members of various Groups since last one> year> > > and spreading hate against me, looking for their support. I have on> > > records that he has also sent a lot of information to a lady> > Moderator,> > > so that tthe lady Moderator of a Group could fight with me legally.> > > Unfortunately he always failed in his devious plans and instead of> him> > > providing info.about me, it was always the other way round. Members> > used> > > to inform me always what he was upto.> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > respected Bhaskar ji> > > >> > > > Thanks for taking up this fight with this kind of unwanted rogue> > > > elemnts who is in astrology> > > >> > > > first of all they were not ready to discuss in real sastrartha way> > > their> > > > own grp> > > >> > > > the so called best software in world cannot downloaded ,Its rasi> and> > > > dgree positions is deviating drasticaly .No one in this world> cannot> > > > refute it or support it so long as it can b verified> > > >> > > > he dont do any case study ,except tall claims that NASA and some> > > > Universities approved it .> > > >> > > > R we waiting for NASA to approv our astrological knowledge and> > ancient> > > > sidhanthas ?? Or how many of u go to this sanskrit professors for> > > > reading ur chart ?? How many of them prooved even their real worth> > in> > > > frnd of intelligentia of india ?? Other than they hav done some> > > > academic study in some approved institutes and passed some exams> > > > conducted by them .How many sanskrit professers in reality can> > answer> > > > even our so called attackers of astrology ??> > > >> > > > Now he is terrorising a poor mother and also doing a sort of Post> > > mortem> > > > reply> > > >> > > > if his software is correct and devine like he claims ( as if he> can> > > > guage the dieties tru his software - if planets r simple dieties> and> > > > their physical position is unimportant then what is the use of a> > > > software ? what is the use of sidhanthas ,what is the use of a> > > > makarnada correction table .why u need to corrrect it ,what> > correction> > > u> > > > r doing ?? why trignometry and sperical geometry is used to find> > > dieties> > > > and satans and devils )> > > >> > > > 1) can he tell the physical featues of the boy> > > >> > > > 2) can he tell why this boy is suffering ( due to which karma in> > past> > > > life ??)> > > >> > > > 3) can he tell why the family is suffering because of this problem> (> > i> > > > mean what is karmik connection or reason for thier suffering ?)> > > >> > > > 4) can he tell why this boys soul search for this mother and> family> > to> > > > finish of and burn out his prarabda karmas ??> > > >> > > > 5 ) what is the connection between this family and that boy in> > > previous> > > > birth ??> > > >> > > > 6) can he tell other abilites of boy> > > >> > > > 7 ) can he tell anything abt mom> > > >> > > > 8 ) can he tell any thing abt his siblings> > > >> > > > 9 ) can he tell anything abt the status of the family he born ??> > > >> > > > how we can establish the worth of his so called secrets and his> > > > softwares without explaining all this .> > > > He is basing to support his claims that it is supported by BPHS> some> > > > versions> > > >> > > > every one in world Knows BPHS has 100s of versions ( other> > intricasies> > > i> > > > dont want to go tru in this tread ) even what ur guru teaches u is> > > > important than what version published by what publisher )> > > >> > > > do u or any one hear 10 version of varaha hora /or 24 versions of> > > > prashna maarga or even 30 versions phaldeepika ?? or any other> > ancient> > > > texts than some mistakes when translated or copied ?> > > >> > > > U r guru will guide u frm all this clutches right ??> > > >> > > > so why shud we digest his claims called i am sole holder of this> > > secret> > > > and my software reveals every thing kind of claims without him> > > > prooving or without him allowing us to test it by reality than> > verbal> > > > blah blah> > > >> > > > Also other than phaladesh to do propitation and santhi karmas we> > need> > > > correct daignise of charts> > > >> > > > every cause there shud b a reason ,every effect there is a cause> > > ,every> > > > action there will b a reaction ,karma cannot remove frm phala and> in> > > > phaladesha in astrology .Did his reading of the chart explains any> > > thing> > > >> > > > can he answer all this> > > >> > > > or the so called moderater who claims vast knowldge can he> > illuminate> > > us> > > >> > > > Or does every one blvs astrologers are simple fortune tellers like> > > road> > > > side foot path predictors without any need for content or study of> > > their> > > > own .> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: dear Neelam ji Thanks for ur analaysis i am asking all memebrs to participate in this discussion on analysing this chart and helping even ourselv to proov what we use is correct method and let so called secret holders if they want let them demonstrate it their worth by prooving their secrets or even software. they cant post me personaly this replies and will b displayed in grp atleast vinay ji is not banned in grp frm participating in this . rgrds sunil nair , neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > Dear All, > > A mother's trauma is quite understandable when her 3 year old child doesn't > speak a word. But it might just be a rough patch only as he could be a late > talker. It's not unusual. I have tried to check from his chart which does > show the problem, but it also shows a relief. > > Date of Birth April 27 2006 > Time 11:08 AM > Place Etobicoke canada > > I am getting the last degree of Gemini Lagna, which might be the correct > lagna as it shows affliction to the 2H and Cancer. 2L moon is combust, in > stellar exchange with ketu, and 8L Saturn afflicts not only 2H, but also 2L > in 11H. Saturn specially has caused the delay as it continues aspect on 2H > and 2L in navamsha also. 2H is also aspected by rahu. Karak Mercury, also > the LL is in debilitation and afflicted with Rahu, again without any benefic > aspect. Both mercury's rashis are afflicted. All these factors unfortunately > seem to have caused speech problem. The child was born in ke-sa-mo (as per > Lahiri Ayanamsha), which has caused the trouble and the problem could be > congenital. > > Nevertheless, the aspect of Jupiter is quite reassuring with an improved > navamsha. The child will get ven-ven-ju from 26 May 2009, Venus is 5/12L > showing relief from trouble through treatment and Jupiter in 5H signifies > the end of problem as it aspects lagna and 6L mars, and 5L venus and 2L > moon. Navamsha is vargottam, has a strong moon in 2H and 5L venus is in > lagna dispositing an exalted Saturn, even though it continues to keep an eye > on the 2H, but is also the 9L in 5th. > > I think the parents should consult the speech therapists who will surely > help the child in start talking. He would be talking fluently by the end of > this year. > > I hope and pray for an early TALK TIME for him! > > Regards > Neelam > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:respected Bhaskar ji Sure ,Thankssure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some grpseven exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums .Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly makingit as a gutterbut many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of thatperson .let him ban me frm his grp if he wantrgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:>>> Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,>> This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writingin> that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails in> retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use themas> a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to> moderate me.>> Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did notwant> me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule theroost> there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, andremoving> smart astrologers methodically one by one.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > dear grp> >> > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days> > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him tointerfere> > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but tomake> > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts> >> > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i saidi> > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims )> >> > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote freepredictions> > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by> > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freelyavilable> > in net and degrade astrology> >> > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by askingme> > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some kingand> i> > am helpless creature in his kingdom> >> > sunil nair> >> > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good> > astrologers in this mail> >> > i am re producing here with my comnts> >> > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:> >> > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@> > chandra in Makara over Nodes> > "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@> > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM> >> > Dear Sunil,> >> > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements> >> > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my> mails> > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair )> >> > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing onit> > so have given him time on it> > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on> > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study> is> > not GOOD ENOUGH> > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIMTIME> > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate> >> > he trhen shifted to weather> >> > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it> >> > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and hecan> > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater firstfor> my> > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }> >> > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has> > suresh babu and others> >> > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of> mails> > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles withoutno> > mention of any names and that time moon was no where nearrahu--sunil> > nair )> >> > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself,how> > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to> > reply to some silly mails in them> >> > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor> > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to> > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but> he> > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work andit> is> > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with his own> intelleignce> > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even mayb> > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps> > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out thetime> > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in> monthly> > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )> >> > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with> > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in> mean> > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both> > when chandra is Kumbha or meena> >> > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am> some> > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp> > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,hereports> > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and> > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counterit> > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and> he> > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm> grp> > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair )> >> >> > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleepfor> > the past 28 months> > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again> monotous> > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON AGIVEN> > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck> >> > Prashant> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Dear All Learned Astrologers/Wellwishers, I don't know the ABCD of astrology but as everyone is curious about his or her future ,we ask the astrologers which ever a common man finds but the real problem is how to differentiate with genuine astrologer and a fake one . I give you my example One astrologer said that after reaching 35 years age there will be no looking back for me and I will achieve every success in life And he adviced that only one child will be living so don't go for more than one child . (He says he is Phd.in astrology) Second astrologer says that from August 2009 to August 2010 I am having a very bad period with fear of getting into some false blame on my head and possibility of going to jail. He says you have two child and it is written that both will achieve highest success. (He says he has Braghusahita with him) ( BOTH OF THESE CONSULTATIONS WAS TAKEN BY PAYING THE ASKED FEE TO ASTROLOGER BY MY WIFE) This is a genuine querry of each common man ,I have written here because the topic was related to this.Please help us to know how to differentiate between genuine and fake astrologer . Thanks And Regards. Sudhanshu Pareek.--- On Fri, 22/5/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Fwd: Re: To set the record straight. Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 1:11 AM ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:respected Bhaskar jiSure ,Thankssure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some grpseven exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums .Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly makingit as a gutterbut many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of thatperson .let him ban me frm his grp if he wantrgrds sunil nairancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:>>> Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,>> This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writingin> that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails in> retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use themas> a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to> moderate me.>> Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did notwant> me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule theroost> there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, andremoving> smart astrologers methodically one by one.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > dear grp> >> > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days> > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him tointerfere> > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but tomake> > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts> >> > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i saidi> > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims )> >> > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote freepredictions> > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by> > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freelyavilable> > in net and degrade astrology> >> > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by askingme> > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some kingand> i> > am helpless creature in his kingdom> >> > sunil nair> >> > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good> > astrologers in this mail> >> > i am re producing here with my comnts> >> > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:> >> > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@> > chandra in Makara over Nodes> > "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@> > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM> >> > Dear Sunil,> >> > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements> >> > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my> mails> > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair )> >> > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing onit> > so have given him time on it> > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on> > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study> is> > not GOOD ENOUGH> > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIMTIME> > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate> >> > he trhen shifted to weather> >> > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it> >> > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and hecan> > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater firstfor> my> > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }> >> > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has> > suresh babu and others> >> > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of> mails> > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles withoutno> > mention of any names and that time moon was no where nearrahu--sunil> > nair )> >> > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself,how> > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to> > reply to some silly mails in them> >> > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor> > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to> > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but> he> > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work andit> is> > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with his own> intelleignce> > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even mayb> > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps> > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out thetime> > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in> monthly> > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )> >> > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with> > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in> mean> > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both> > when chandra is Kumbha or meena> >> > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am> some> > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp> > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,hereports> > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and> > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counterit> > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and> he> > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm> grp> > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair )> >> >> > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleepfor> > the past 28 months> > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again> monotous> > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON AGIVEN> > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck> >> > Prashant> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! 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Guest guest Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Dear Sudhanshu ji, When we buy a Kesar-Pista Icecream over the counter, there is no way to know usually from the colour of the icecream whether real Pista or real kesar has been sued , or just the colours and the essence added for flavour. When you buy andeat it, then you realise the truth. Or else if somebody reccomends you a particular brand, then you know more about it. Same way, when a native visits an astrologer and interacts with him, if the native is wise, he comes to know this before paying his Fees whether the astrologer is genuine or not. In other cases somebody may reccomend a good astrologer. In yet other cases, you have to burn your pocket in order the know about the truth . But - A genuine astrologer will never come to You seeking your Orders. A genuine astrologer will never allow his self respect to be humbled with the money you pay him. A genuine astrologer will always speak the truth, rather than just to make you feel happy. A genuine astrologer will never voluntarily post predictions to You or offer to solve your problem and approach you first. A genuine astrologer will have the guts to throw your fees out of the window, if you act disrespectful towards him and astrology. A genuine astrologer will have the guts to demand his Fees with his head held high, rather than fold hands , or cring, or ask with a servile attitude. A genuine astrologer does not need many books to refer when studying a chart. He works for the major part, on his intuitions and the other part on his studies. regards, Bhaskar. , sudhanshu pareek <pareek_sp2007 wrote: > > Dear All Learned Astrologers/Wellwishers, > > I don't know the ABCD of astrology but as everyone is curious about his or her future ,we ask the astrologers which ever a common man finds but the real problem is how to differentiate with genuine astrologer and a fake one . > > I give you my example One astrologer said that after reaching 35 years age there will be no looking back for me and I will achieve every success in life And he adviced that only one child will be living so don't go for more than one child . > (He says he is Phd.in astrology) > > Second astrologer says that from August 2009 to August 2010 I am having a very bad period with fear of getting into some false blame on my head and possibility of going to jail. He says you have two child and it is written that both will achieve highest success. > (He says he has Braghusahita with him) > > ( BOTH OF THESE CONSULTATIONS WAS TAKEN BY PAYING THE ASKED FEE TO ASTROLOGER BY MY WIFE) > > This is a genuine querry of each common man ,I have written here because the topic was related to this.Please help us to know how to differentiate between genuine and fake astrologer . > > Thanks And Regards. > Sudhanshu Pareek. > > --- On Fri, 22/5/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Fwd: Re: To set the record straight. > > Friday, 22 May, 2009, 1:11 AM > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote: > > > respected Bhaskar ji > > Sure ,Thanks > > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some grps > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums . > > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly making > it as a gutter > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of that > person . > > let him ban me frm his grp if he want > > rgrds sunil nair > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writing > in > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails in > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use them > as > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to > > moderate me. > > > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did not > want > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the > roost > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and > removing > > smart astrologers methodically one by one. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > dear grp > > > > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to > interfere > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to > make > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts > > > > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i said > i > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims ) > > > > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free > predictions > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely > avilable > > > in net and degrade astrology > > > > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by asking > me > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king > and > > i > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good > > > astrologers in this mail > > > > > > i am re producing here with my comnts > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes > > > " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements > > > > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my > > mails > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair ) > > > > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on > it > > > so have given him time on it > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study > > is > > > not GOOD ENOUGH > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM > TIME > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate > > > > > > he trhen shifted to weather > > > > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it > > > > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he > can > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first > for > > my > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair } > > > > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has > > > suresh babu and others > > > > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of > > mails > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles without > no > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near > rahu--sunil > > > nair ) > > > > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself, > how > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to > > > reply to some silly mails in them > > > > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but > > he > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and > it > > is > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with his own > > intelleignce > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even may > b > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the > time > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in > > monthly > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology ) > > > > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in > > mean > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena > > > > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am > > some > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he > reports > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter > it > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and > > he > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm > > grp > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair ) > > > > > > > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep > for > > > the past 28 months > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again > > monotous > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A > GIVEN > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? 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Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, The frog of that gutter which he has made of that once upon a time good forum, has now started croaking again. He has accepted his 3 ids. Why must he have 3 ids in the first case ? I will tell you why. He used one of his id in a womens name to ouster me from the Vedic astrology group. Another id he used to ouster me from Jyotish Group last year. Whenever he gets caught he accepts it as his id otherwise God knows how many more remain to be caught further. Even he was banned from the Jyotish Group by the Moderator there, but this shameless fellow remained in that Group with his other id. He calls himself a senior astrologer in the Group he moderates. Who made hims senior may someone ask him ? Is he a astrologer in the first case, can he prove that ? He cannot predict even a single event and what eh writes is ununderstandable half the time, which he covers with BY Ramans ayanamsha in case somebody finds fault with him. He is a smart operator no doubt to fool gullible innocent members. He says that he is doing free astrology on that Group . Then who else is not doing free astrology there may he reply us ? Do the other astrologers ask money from the querists before replying on that Group ? Then for what is he blowing his own trumpet ? He is mentioning 15-20 lines at ened of his postings which say that consultations outside the Group are chargeable and chat is also chargeable etc.etc. Then why is he blowing a trumpet and for what ??? He thrives on creating fights between members. At the moment he has succeeded in creating a fight between You, Vinayji, and Sunil Bhattacharyaji and also uses the name of the onwer of that Group he moderates to put him in this muddle he has craeted out of his evil nature. Why does he need their shouldersto fight ? Is he spineless to come alone and fight one to one with his own strength? He has spoiled the names iof Brahmins. He is a ugly monster and a perverted person and calls himself a bachelor , though he never accepts that no women is ready to marry him due to his ugliness and nonsensical psycho behaviours. He is a " shraap " a " abhishaap " and a black spot in the name of astrology is very clear and apparent now, even to those who have little commonsense. He has got no supporters left anymore. Those whom he has he thinks, are actually playing double games with him which he does not realise. Poor Vinayji whatever may be our oppositions with him due to SuryaSiddhanta or whatever, but he has been used very craftily by this dirty moderator to realise his own fights and ends. But the frog has started croaking again and dirtying that Forum which is not his own but somebody elses, which he has no right to turn in a gutter . Somebody tell him that he is not even fit to be an ordinary astrologer what to talk of seniority and such self given status which he cannot touch even in the next 10 Life times. He is now creating a fight bewteen me and the other old astrologers in his Group. I tell you he must be brought on the road and made to sit under a tree with a begging bowl which is the only work he is fit for. We have never spoken derogatorily about the old astrologers who write there only sometimes. We have spoken of this fellow bringing in new people from nowhere and promoting them as astrologers in this Group he moderates. I doubt about his ancestory, because he behaves like a enemy of this great divine science " Astrology " . He cannot be a Brahmin, thats for sure now. Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > respected Bhaskar ji > > Sure ,Thanks > > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some grps > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums . > > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly making > it as a gutter > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of that > person . > > let him ban me frm his grp if he want > > rgrds sunil nair > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writing > in > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails in > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use them > as > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to > > moderate me. > > > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did not > want > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the > roost > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and > removing > > smart astrologers methodically one by one. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > dear grp > > > > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 days > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to > interfere > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to > make > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts > > > > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i said > i > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims ) > > > > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free > predictions > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely > avilable > > > in net and degrade astrology > > > > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by asking > me > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king > and > > i > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good > > > astrologers in this mail > > > > > > i am re producing here with my comnts > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes > > > " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements > > > > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my > > mails > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair ) > > > > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on > it > > > so have given him time on it > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the study > > is > > > not GOOD ENOUGH > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM > TIME > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate > > > > > > he trhen shifted to weather > > > > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it > > > > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he > can > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first > for > > my > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair } > > > > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so has > > > suresh babu and others > > > > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of > > mails > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles without > no > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near > rahu--sunil > > > nair ) > > > > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself, > how > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time to > > > reply to some silly mails in them > > > > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers but > > he > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and > it > > is > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with his > own > > intelleignce > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even may > b > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the > time > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in > > monthly > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology ) > > > > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group in > > mean > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve both > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena > > > > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i am > > some > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this grp > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he > reports > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids and > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter > it > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned and > > he > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out frm > > grp > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair ) > > > > > > > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep > for > > > the past 28 months > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again > > monotous > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A > GIVEN > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck > > > > > > Prashant > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, Some idiot is using a alias id in Your and my names in the Group Vedic astrology and abusing Vinay Jha, and giving that rascal Gutter Moderator of the gutter Group, to talk rubbish against me. I have already sent a mail to Vinay Jha saying that I have not abused him in those fake ids, and I swore on my parents, and thats all I can do at the present. But Mr Vinay Jha will not understand for that gutter man has brainwashed him into fighting against us. Anyway I dont care . But if this goes a little longer, then I am going to cause trouble to few men. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > The frog of that gutter which he has made of that once upon a time good > forum, has now started croaking again. He has accepted his 3 ids. Why > must he have 3 ids in the first case ? I will tell you why. He used one > of his id in a womens name to ouster me from the Vedic astrology group. > Another id he used to ouster me from Jyotish Group last year. Whenever > he gets caught he accepts it as his id otherwise God knows how many more > remain to be caught further. Even he was banned from the Jyotish Group > by the Moderator there, but this shameless fellow remained in that Group > with his other id. He calls himself a senior astrologer in the Group he > moderates. Who made hims senior may someone ask him ? Is he a astrologer > in the first case, can he prove that ? He cannot predict even a single > event and what eh writes is ununderstandable half the time, which he > covers with BY Ramans ayanamsha in case somebody finds fault with him. > He is a smart operator no doubt to fool gullible innocent members. He > says that he is doing free astrology on that Group . Then who else is > not doing free astrology there may he reply us ? Do the other > astrologers ask money from the querists before replying on that Group ? > Then for what is he blowing his own trumpet ? He is mentioning 15-20 > lines at ened of his postings which say that consultations outside the > Group are chargeable and chat is also chargeable etc.etc. Then why is he > blowing a trumpet and for what ??? > > He thrives on creating fights between members. At the moment he has > succeeded in creating a fight between You, Vinayji, and Sunil > Bhattacharyaji and also uses the name of the onwer of that Group he > moderates to put him in this muddle he has craeted out of his evil > nature. Why does he need their shouldersto fight ? Is he spineless to > come alone and fight one to one with his own strength? He has spoiled > the names iof Brahmins. He is a ugly monster and a perverted person and > calls himself a bachelor , though he never accepts that no women is > ready to marry him due to his ugliness and nonsensical psycho > behaviours. > > He is a " shraap " a " abhishaap " and a black spot in the name of astrology > is very clear and apparent now, even to those who have little > commonsense. He has got no supporters left anymore. Those whom he has he > thinks, are actually playing double games with him which he does not > realise. Poor Vinayji whatever may be our oppositions with him due to > SuryaSiddhanta or whatever, but he has been used very craftily by this > dirty moderator to realise his own fights and ends. > > But the frog has started croaking again and dirtying that Forum which is > not his own but somebody elses, which he has no right to turn in a > gutter . > > Somebody tell him that he is not even fit to be an ordinary astrologer > what to talk of seniority and such self given status which he cannot > touch even in the next 10 Life times. > > He is now creating a fight bewteen me and the other old astrologers in > his Group. I tell you he must be brought on the road and made to sit > under a tree with a begging bowl which is the only work he is fit for. > We have never spoken derogatorily about the old astrologers who write > there only sometimes. We have spoken of this fellow bringing in new > people from nowhere and promoting them as astrologers in this Group he > moderates. I doubt about his ancestory, because he behaves like a enemy > of this great divine science " Astrology " . > > He cannot be a Brahmin, thats for sure now. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > respected Bhaskar ji > > > > Sure ,Thanks > > > > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some > grps > > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums .. > > > > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly making > > it as a gutter > > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of > that > > person . > > > > let him ban me frm his grp if he want > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writing > > in > > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails > in > > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use > them > > as > > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to > > > moderate me. > > > > > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did not > > want > > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the > > roost > > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and > > removing > > > smart astrologers methodically one by one. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > dear grp > > > > > > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 > days > > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to > > interfere > > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to > > make > > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts > > > > > > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i > said > > i > > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims ) > > > > > > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free > > predictions > > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by > > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely > > avilable > > > > in net and degrade astrology > > > > > > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by > asking > > me > > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king > > and > > > i > > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom > > > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good > > > > astrologers in this mail > > > > > > > > i am re producing here with my comnts > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ > > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes > > > > " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements > > > > > > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my > > > mails > > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair ) > > > > > > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on > > it > > > > so have given him time on it > > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on > > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the > study > > > is > > > > not GOOD ENOUGH > > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM > > TIME > > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate > > > > > > > > he trhen shifted to weather > > > > > > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it > > > > > > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he > > can > > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first > > for > > > my > > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair } > > > > > > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so > has > > > > suresh babu and others > > > > > > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of > > > mails > > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles > without > > no > > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near > > rahu--sunil > > > > nair ) > > > > > > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself, > > how > > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time > to > > > > reply to some silly mails in them > > > > > > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor > > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to > > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers > but > > > he > > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and > > it > > > is > > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with > his > > own > > > intelleignce > > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even > may > > b > > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps > > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the > > time > > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in > > > monthly > > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology ) > > > > > > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with > > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group > in > > > mean > > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve > both > > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena > > > > > > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i > am > > > some > > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this > grp > > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he > > reports > > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids > and > > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter > > it > > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned > and > > > he > > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out > frm > > > grp > > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair ) > > > > > > > > > > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep > > for > > > > the past 28 months > > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again > > > monotous > > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A > > GIVEN > > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, This is what I like best about you. This is what good men are made of and what goodness is. You, me and few others have become a part of this muddle due to the fabrications of that evil and devious moderator. Its good that we have realised this. We are not bad people basically. We are provoked into this by such evil men. But goodness being basically overpowering , in some time we are bound to realise and retrace the steps we have faltered. We are after all here for learning, knowledge and sharing. None can claim to have complete knowledge, therefore when we share, Shri Sunil Nairji, Shri Vinay Jha ji, Neelamji, Bhaskar ji, and add a few names more, we can learn better, those parts which we do not know. You will come with your share of knowledge, I with mines, Neelamji with hers, Vinay Jha ji with his, etc.etc. I appreciate your good, wise and mature step. regards, Bhaskar. , " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > respected bhaskar ji > > sure shri vinay jha is pursuing an intllectual journey and even i > advised him to keep away frm this gutter moderater as first of all he > dont deserv to b called even as an astrologer > > depending on understanding or teaching frm gurus various astrologers or > learners may diffr on many things > > that can b removed when reality strikes or when u realise u r wrong and > other is correct or more better systems exists in world or at times > whole society can also take a incorrect step and some one is correcting > it ,such person wil hav to face resistnce ,but putting such reserchers > in fights and misusing is a crime ,As good amnt of their time will b > wiasted for unneccessary verbal duels > > so i request vinay ji to ignore all this and try to present his ideas > which can readable to all persons .he has to giv both charts ( normal > one and his own software and compare or let others compare his write > ups ) > > So i request shri vinay ji to come out frm all this fights and took his > mission more seriously > > dont ever fall in trap of this intellectualy bankrupt person > > rgrds sunil nair > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > Some idiot is using a alias id in Your and my names in the Group Vedic > > astrology and abusing Vinay Jha, and giving that rascal Gutter > Moderator > > of the gutter Group, to talk rubbish against me. > > > > I have already sent a mail to Vinay Jha saying that I have not abused > > him in those fake ids, and I swore on my parents, and thats all I can > do > > at the present. But Mr Vinay Jha will not understand for that gutter > man > > has brainwashed him into fighting against us. > > > > Anyway I dont care . But if this goes a little longer, then I am going > > to cause trouble to few men. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > > > The frog of that gutter which he has made of that once upon a time > > good > > > forum, has now started croaking again. He has accepted his 3 ids. > Why > > > must he have 3 ids in the first case ? I will tell you why. He used > > one > > > of his id in a womens name to ouster me from the Vedic astrology > > group. > > > Another id he used to ouster me from Jyotish Group last year. > Whenever > > > he gets caught he accepts it as his id otherwise God knows how many > > more > > > remain to be caught further. Even he was banned from the Jyotish > Group > > > by the Moderator there, but this shameless fellow remained in that > > Group > > > with his other id. He calls himself a senior astrologer in the Group > > he > > > moderates. Who made hims senior may someone ask him ? Is he a > > astrologer > > > in the first case, can he prove that ? He cannot predict even a > single > > > event and what eh writes is ununderstandable half the time, which he > > > covers with BY Ramans ayanamsha in case somebody finds fault with > him. > > > He is a smart operator no doubt to fool gullible innocent members. > He > > > says that he is doing free astrology on that Group . Then who else > is > > > not doing free astrology there may he reply us ? Do the other > > > astrologers ask money from the querists before replying on that > Group > > ? > > > Then for what is he blowing his own trumpet ? He is mentioning 15-20 > > > lines at ened of his postings which say that consultations outside > the > > > Group are chargeable and chat is also chargeable etc.etc. Then why > is > > he > > > blowing a trumpet and for what ??? > > > > > > He thrives on creating fights between members. At the moment he has > > > succeeded in creating a fight between You, Vinayji, and Sunil > > > Bhattacharyaji and also uses the name of the onwer of that Group he > > > moderates to put him in this muddle he has craeted out of his evil > > > nature. Why does he need their shouldersto fight ? Is he spineless > to > > > come alone and fight one to one with his own strength? He has > spoiled > > > the names iof Brahmins. He is a ugly monster and a perverted person > > and > > > calls himself a bachelor , though he never accepts that no women is > > > ready to marry him due to his ugliness and nonsensical psycho > > > behaviours. > > > > > > He is a " shraap " a " abhishaap " and a black spot in the name of > > astrology > > > is very clear and apparent now, even to those who have little > > > commonsense. He has got no supporters left anymore. Those whom he > has > > he > > > thinks, are actually playing double games with him which he does not > > > realise. Poor Vinayji whatever may be our oppositions with him due > to > > > SuryaSiddhanta or whatever, but he has been used very craftily by > this > > > dirty moderator to realise his own fights and ends. > > > > > > But the frog has started croaking again and dirtying that Forum > which > > is > > > not his own but somebody elses, which he has no right to turn in a > > > gutter . > > > > > > Somebody tell him that he is not even fit to be an ordinary > astrologer > > > what to talk of seniority and such self given status which he cannot > > > touch even in the next 10 Life times. > > > > > > He is now creating a fight bewteen me and the other old astrologers > in > > > his Group. I tell you he must be brought on the road and made to sit > > > under a tree with a begging bowl which is the only work he is fit > for. > > > We have never spoken derogatorily about the old astrologers who > write > > > there only sometimes. We have spoken of this fellow bringing in new > > > people from nowhere and promoting them as astrologers in this Group > he > > > moderates. I doubt about his ancestory, because he behaves like a > > enemy > > > of this great divine science " Astrology " . > > > > > > He cannot be a Brahmin, thats for sure now. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > respected Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > Sure ,Thanks > > > > > > > > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some > > > grps > > > > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all > forums > > . > > > > > > > > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly > > making > > > > it as a gutter > > > > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities > of > > > that > > > > person . > > > > > > > > let him ban me frm his grp if he want > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > > > > > > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from > > writing > > > > in > > > > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my > mails > > > in > > > > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use > > > them > > > > as > > > > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse > > to > > > > > moderate me. > > > > > > > > > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did > > not > > > > want > > > > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule > the > > > > roost > > > > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and > > > > removing > > > > > smart astrologers methodically one by one. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear grp > > > > > > > > > > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14 > > > days > > > > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to > > > > interfere > > > > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but > > to > > > > make > > > > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts > > > > > > > > > > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As > i > > > said > > > > i > > > > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims ) > > > > > > > > > > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free > > > > predictions > > > > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology > by > > > > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely > > > > avilable > > > > > > in net and degrade astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by > > > asking > > > > me > > > > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some > > king > > > > and > > > > > i > > > > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good > > > > > > astrologers in this mail > > > > > > > > > > > > i am re producing here with my comnts > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ > > > > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes > > > > > > " sunil nair " astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil, > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements > > > > > > > > > > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding > > my > > > > > mails > > > > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair ) > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is > worjing > > on > > > > it > > > > > > so have given him time on it > > > > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too > on > > > > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the > > > study > > > > > is > > > > > > not GOOD ENOUGH > > > > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE > HIM > > > > TIME > > > > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate > > > > > > > > > > > > he trhen shifted to weather > > > > > > > > > > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it > > > > > > > > > > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him > and > > he > > > > can > > > > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater > > first > > > > for > > > > > my > > > > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair } > > > > > > > > > > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on > so > > > has > > > > > > suresh babu and others > > > > > > > > > > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its > essense > > of > > > > > mails > > > > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles > > > without > > > > no > > > > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near > > > > rahu--sunil > > > > > > nair ) > > > > > > > > > > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose > > himself, > > > > how > > > > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has > time > > > to > > > > > > reply to some silly mails in them > > > > > > > > > > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner > nor > > > > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass > me > > to > > > > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of > pointers > > > but > > > > > he > > > > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work > > and > > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he > with > > > his > > > > own > > > > > intelleignce > > > > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu > --even > > > may > > > > b > > > > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many > > grps > > > > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out > the > > > > time > > > > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged > in > > > > > monthly > > > > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology ) > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara > > with > > > > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the > group > > > in > > > > > mean > > > > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can > approve > > > both > > > > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena > > > > > > > > > > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if > i > > > am > > > > > some > > > > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in > this > > > grp > > > > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he > > > > reports > > > > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake > ids > > > and > > > > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and > > counter > > > > it > > > > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get > banned > > > and > > > > > he > > > > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is > out > > > frm > > > > > grp > > > > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost > > sleep > > > > for > > > > > > the past 28 months > > > > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again > > > > > monotous > > > > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON > A > > > > GIVEN > > > > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 dear respected bhaskar ji i hav still nothing against shri vinay shah where as i still respect him ,even i know he has to use his faculties to more fine tune astrology than argueing with any memebr and i think he already fall in this trap of gutter garbbage moderater ,i got some mails that all mails of ppl who ever supported me is deleted in his grp to look like i hav no one to support and he is the only man practising modesty .it is this foolish moderater eger to create problems who misused my requests for asking proofs for creating trouble between memebrs as he is jealous in first hand ,not learned in any astrological principles is another problem ,that is why he supports any one in this world who ever comes with any claims so wanted to taint images of other astrologers and he can only trive not by showing his merit but by spoiling others name all his underhand technics r known to other astrologers tho many other memebrs r ignorent abt it .i read shri vinay jha will b presenting his case studies for others to verify ,so eagerly waiting for it .rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > The frog of that gutter which he has made of that once upon a time good> forum, has now started croaking again. He has accepted his 3 ids. Why> must he have 3 ids in the first case ? I will tell you why. He used one> of his id in a womens name to ouster me from the Vedic astrology group.> Another id he used to ouster me from Jyotish Group last year. Whenever> he gets caught he accepts it as his id otherwise God knows how many more> remain to be caught further. Even he was banned from the Jyotish Group> by the Moderator there, but this shameless fellow remained in that Group> with his other id. He calls himself a senior astrologer in the Group he> moderates. Who made hims senior may someone ask him ? Is he a astrologer> in the first case, can he prove that ? He cannot predict even a single> event and what eh writes is ununderstandable half the time, which he> covers with BY Ramans ayanamsha in case somebody finds fault with him.> He is a smart operator no doubt to fool gullible innocent members. He> says that he is doing free astrology on that Group . Then who else is> not doing free astrology there may he reply us ? Do the other> astrologers ask money from the querists before replying on that Group ?> Then for what is he blowing his own trumpet ? He is mentioning 15-20> lines at ened of his postings which say that consultations outside the> Group are chargeable and chat is also chargeable etc.etc. Then why is he> blowing a trumpet and for what ???> > He thrives on creating fights between members. At the moment he has> succeeded in creating a fight between You, Vinayji, and Sunil> Bhattacharyaji and also uses the name of the onwer of that Group he> moderates to put him in this muddle he has craeted out of his evil> nature. Why does he need their shouldersto fight ? Is he spineless to> come alone and fight one to one with his own strength? He has spoiled> the names iof Brahmins. He is a ugly monster and a perverted person and> calls himself a bachelor , though he never accepts that no women is> ready to marry him due to his ugliness and nonsensical psycho> behaviours.> > He is a "shraap" a "abhishaap" and a black spot in the name of astrology> is very clear and apparent now, even to those who have little> commonsense. He has got no supporters left anymore. Those whom he has he> thinks, are actually playing double games with him which he does not> realise. Poor Vinayji whatever may be our oppositions with him due to> SuryaSiddhanta or whatever, but he has been used very craftily by this> dirty moderator to realise his own fights and ends.> > But the frog has started croaking again and dirtying that Forum which is> not his own but somebody elses, which he has no right to turn in a> gutter .> > Somebody tell him that he is not even fit to be an ordinary astrologer> what to talk of seniority and such self given status which he cannot> touch even in the next 10 Life times.> > He is now creating a fight bewteen me and the other old astrologers in> his Group. I tell you he must be brought on the road and made to sit> under a tree with a begging bowl which is the only work he is fit for.> We have never spoken derogatorily about the old astrologers who write> there only sometimes. We have spoken of this fellow bringing in new> people from nowhere and promoting them as astrologers in this Group he> moderates. I doubt about his ancestory, because he behaves like a enemy> of this great divine science "Astrology".> > He cannot be a Brahmin, thats for sure now.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > respected Bhaskar ji> >> > Sure ,Thanks> >> > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some> grps> > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums .> >> > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly making> > it as a gutter> > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of> that> > person .> >> > let him ban me frm his grp if he want> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > >> > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from writing> > in> > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails> in> > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use> them> > as> > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse to> > > moderate me.> > >> > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did not> > want> > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the> > roost> > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and> > removing> > > smart astrologers methodically one by one.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > dear grp> > > >> > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14> days> > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to> > interfere> > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but to> > make> > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts> > > >> > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i> said> > i> > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims )> > > >> > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free> > predictions> > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by> > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely> > avilable> > > > in net and degrade astrology> > > >> > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by> asking> > me> > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some king> > and> > > i> > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom> > > >> > > > sunil nair> > > >> > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good> > > > astrologers in this mail> > > >> > > > i am re producing here with my comnts> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@> > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes> > > > "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@> > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil,> > > >> > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements> > > >> > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding my> > > mails> > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair )> > > >> > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing on> > it> > > > so have given him time on it> > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on> > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the> study> > > is> > > > not GOOD ENOUGH> > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM> > TIME> > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate> > > >> > > > he trhen shifted to weather> > > >> > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it> > > >> > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and he> > can> > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater first> > for> > > my> > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }> > > >> > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so> has> > > > suresh babu and others> > > >> > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense of> > > mails> > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles> without> > no> > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near> > rahu--sunil> > > > nair )> > > >> > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose himself,> > how> > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time> to> > > > reply to some silly mails in them> > > >> > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor> > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me to> > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers> but> > > he> > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work and> > it> > > is> > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with> his> > own> > > intelleignce> > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even> may> > b> > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many grps> > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the> > time> > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in> > > monthly> > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )> > > >> > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara with> > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group> in> > > mean> > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve> both> > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena> > > >> > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i> am> > > some> > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this> grp> > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he> > reports> > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids> and> > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and counter> > it> > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned> and> > > he> > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out> frm> > > grp> > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair )> > > >> > > >> > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost sleep> > for> > > > the past 28 months> > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again> > > monotous> > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A> > GIVEN> > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck> > > >> > > > Prashant> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 respected bhaskar ji sure shri vinay jha is pursuing an intllectual journey and even i advised him to keep away frm this gutter moderater as first of all he dont deserv to b called even as an astrologer depending on understanding or teaching frm gurus various astrologers or learners may diffr on many things that can b removed when reality strikes or when u realise u r wrong and other is correct or more better systems exists in world or at times whole society can also take a incorrect step and some one is correcting it ,such person wil hav to face resistnce ,but putting such reserchers in fights and misusing is a crime ,As good amnt of their time will b wiasted for unneccessary verbal duels so i request vinay ji to ignore all this and try to present his ideas which can readable to all persons .he has to giv both charts ( normal one and his own software and compare or let others compare his write ups ) So i request shri vinay ji to come out frm all this fights and took his mission more seriously dont ever fall in trap of this intellectualy bankrupt person rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > Some idiot is using a alias id in Your and my names in the Group Vedic> astrology and abusing Vinay Jha, and giving that rascal Gutter Moderator> of the gutter Group, to talk rubbish against me.> > I have already sent a mail to Vinay Jha saying that I have not abused> him in those fake ids, and I swore on my parents, and thats all I can do> at the present. But Mr Vinay Jha will not understand for that gutter man> has brainwashed him into fighting against us.> > Anyway I dont care . But if this goes a little longer, then I am going> to cause trouble to few men.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> >> > The frog of that gutter which he has made of that once upon a time> good> > forum, has now started croaking again. He has accepted his 3 ids. Why> > must he have 3 ids in the first case ? I will tell you why. He used> one> > of his id in a womens name to ouster me from the Vedic astrology> group.> > Another id he used to ouster me from Jyotish Group last year. Whenever> > he gets caught he accepts it as his id otherwise God knows how many> more> > remain to be caught further. Even he was banned from the Jyotish Group> > by the Moderator there, but this shameless fellow remained in that> Group> > with his other id. He calls himself a senior astrologer in the Group> he> > moderates. Who made hims senior may someone ask him ? Is he a> astrologer> > in the first case, can he prove that ? He cannot predict even a single> > event and what eh writes is ununderstandable half the time, which he> > covers with BY Ramans ayanamsha in case somebody finds fault with him.> > He is a smart operator no doubt to fool gullible innocent members. He> > says that he is doing free astrology on that Group . Then who else is> > not doing free astrology there may he reply us ? Do the other> > astrologers ask money from the querists before replying on that Group> ?> > Then for what is he blowing his own trumpet ? He is mentioning 15-20> > lines at ened of his postings which say that consultations outside the> > Group are chargeable and chat is also chargeable etc.etc. Then why is> he> > blowing a trumpet and for what ???> >> > He thrives on creating fights between members. At the moment he has> > succeeded in creating a fight between You, Vinayji, and Sunil> > Bhattacharyaji and also uses the name of the onwer of that Group he> > moderates to put him in this muddle he has craeted out of his evil> > nature. Why does he need their shouldersto fight ? Is he spineless to> > come alone and fight one to one with his own strength? He has spoiled> > the names iof Brahmins. He is a ugly monster and a perverted person> and> > calls himself a bachelor , though he never accepts that no women is> > ready to marry him due to his ugliness and nonsensical psycho> > behaviours.> >> > He is a "shraap" a "abhishaap" and a black spot in the name of> astrology> > is very clear and apparent now, even to those who have little> > commonsense. He has got no supporters left anymore. Those whom he has> he> > thinks, are actually playing double games with him which he does not> > realise. Poor Vinayji whatever may be our oppositions with him due to> > SuryaSiddhanta or whatever, but he has been used very craftily by this> > dirty moderator to realise his own fights and ends.> >> > But the frog has started croaking again and dirtying that Forum which> is> > not his own but somebody elses, which he has no right to turn in a> > gutter .> >> > Somebody tell him that he is not even fit to be an ordinary astrologer> > what to talk of seniority and such self given status which he cannot> > touch even in the next 10 Life times.> >> > He is now creating a fight bewteen me and the other old astrologers in> > his Group. I tell you he must be brought on the road and made to sit> > under a tree with a begging bowl which is the only work he is fit for.> > We have never spoken derogatorily about the old astrologers who write> > there only sometimes. We have spoken of this fellow bringing in new> > people from nowhere and promoting them as astrologers in this Group he> > moderates. I doubt about his ancestory, because he behaves like a> enemy> > of this great divine science "Astrology".> >> > He cannot be a Brahmin, thats for sure now.> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > respected Bhaskar ji> > >> > > Sure ,Thanks> > >> > > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some> > grps> > > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all forums> .> > >> > > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly> making> > > it as a gutter> > > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities of> > that> > > person .> > >> > > let him ban me frm his grp if he want> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > > >> > > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from> writing> > > in> > > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my mails> > in> > > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use> > them> > > as> > > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse> to> > > > moderate me.> > > >> > > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did> not> > > want> > > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule the> > > roost> > > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and> > > removing> > > > smart astrologers methodically one by one.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear grp> > > > >> > > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14> > days> > > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to> > > interfere> > > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but> to> > > make> > > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts> > > > >> > > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As i> > said> > > i> > > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims )> > > > >> > > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free> > > predictions> > > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology by> > > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely> > > avilable> > > > > in net and degrade astrology> > > > >> > > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by> > asking> > > me> > > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some> king> > > and> > > > i> > > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom> > > > >> > > > > sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good> > > > > astrologers in this mail> > > > >> > > > > i am re producing here with my comnts> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@> > > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes> > > > > "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sunil,> > > > >> > > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements> > > > >> > > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding> my> > > > mails> > > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair )> > > > >> > > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is worjing> on> > > it> > > > > so have given him time on it> > > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too on> > > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the> > study> > > > is> > > > > not GOOD ENOUGH> > > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE HIM> > > TIME> > > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate> > > > >> > > > > he trhen shifted to weather> > > > >> > > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it> > > > >> > > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him and> he> > > can> > > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater> first> > > for> > > > my> > > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }> > > > >> > > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on so> > has> > > > > suresh babu and others> > > > >> > > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its essense> of> > > > mails> > > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles> > without> > > no> > > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near> > > rahu--sunil> > > > > nair )> > > > >> > > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose> himself,> > > how> > > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has time> > to> > > > > reply to some silly mails in them> > > > >> > > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner nor> > > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass me> to> > > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of pointers> > but> > > > he> > > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work> and> > > it> > > > is> > > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he with> > his> > > own> > > > intelleignce> > > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu --even> > may> > > b> > > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many> grps> > > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out the> > > time> > > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged in> > > > monthly> > > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )> > > > >> > > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara> with> > > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the group> > in> > > > mean> > > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can approve> > both> > > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena> > > > >> > > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if i> > am> > > > some> > > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in this> > grp> > > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he> > > reports> > > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake ids> > and> > > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and> counter> > > it> > > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get banned> > and> > > > he> > > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is out> > frm> > > > grp> > > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair )> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost> sleep> > > for> > > > > the past 28 months> > > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again> > > > monotous> > > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON A> > > GIVEN> > > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck> > > > >> > > > > Prashant> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, This is what I like best about you. This is what good men are made of and what goodness is. You, me and few others have become a part of this muddle due to the fabrications of that evil and devious moderator. Its good that we have realised this. We are not bad people basically. We are provoked into this by such evil men. But goodness being basically overpowering , in some time we are bound to realise and retrace the steps we have faltered. We are after all here for learning, knowledge and sharing. None can claim to have complete knowledge, therefore when we share, Shri Sunil Nairji, Shri Vinay Jha ji, Neelamji, Bhaskar ji, and add a few names more, we can learn better, those parts which we do not know. You will come with your share of knowledge, I with mines, Neelamji with hers, Vinay Jha ji with his, etc.etc. I appreciate your good, wise and mature step. regards, Bhaskar. , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > respected bhaskar ji> > sure shri vinay jha is pursuing an intllectual journey and even i> advised him to keep away frm this gutter moderater as first of all he> dont deserv to b called even as an astrologer> > depending on understanding or teaching frm gurus various astrologers or> learners may diffr on many things> > that can b removed when reality strikes or when u realise u r wrong and> other is correct or more better systems exists in world or at times> whole society can also take a incorrect step and some one is correcting> it ,such person wil hav to face resistnce ,but putting such reserchers> in fights and misusing is a crime ,As good amnt of their time will b> wiasted for unneccessary verbal duels> > so i request vinay ji to ignore all this and try to present his ideas> which can readable to all persons .he has to giv both charts ( normal> one and his own software and compare or let others compare his write> ups )> > So i request shri vinay ji to come out frm all this fights and took his> mission more seriously> > dont ever fall in trap of this intellectualy bankrupt person> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> >> > Some idiot is using a alias id in Your and my names in the Group Vedic> > astrology and abusing Vinay Jha, and giving that rascal Gutter> Moderator> > of the gutter Group, to talk rubbish against me.> >> > I have already sent a mail to Vinay Jha saying that I have not abused> > him in those fake ids, and I swore on my parents, and thats all I can> do> > at the present. But Mr Vinay Jha will not understand for that gutter> man> > has brainwashed him into fighting against us.> >> > Anyway I dont care . But if this goes a little longer, then I am going> > to cause trouble to few men.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > >> > > The frog of that gutter which he has made of that once upon a time> > good> > > forum, has now started croaking again. He has accepted his 3 ids.> Why> > > must he have 3 ids in the first case ? I will tell you why. He used> > one> > > of his id in a womens name to ouster me from the Vedic astrology> > group.> > > Another id he used to ouster me from Jyotish Group last year.> Whenever> > > he gets caught he accepts it as his id otherwise God knows how many> > more> > > remain to be caught further. Even he was banned from the Jyotish> Group> > > by the Moderator there, but this shameless fellow remained in that> > Group> > > with his other id. He calls himself a senior astrologer in the Group> > he> > > moderates. Who made hims senior may someone ask him ? Is he a> > astrologer> > > in the first case, can he prove that ? He cannot predict even a> single> > > event and what eh writes is ununderstandable half the time, which he> > > covers with BY Ramans ayanamsha in case somebody finds fault with> him.> > > He is a smart operator no doubt to fool gullible innocent members.> He> > > says that he is doing free astrology on that Group . Then who else> is> > > not doing free astrology there may he reply us ? Do the other> > > astrologers ask money from the querists before replying on that> Group> > ?> > > Then for what is he blowing his own trumpet ? He is mentioning 15-20> > > lines at ened of his postings which say that consultations outside> the> > > Group are chargeable and chat is also chargeable etc.etc. Then why> is> > he> > > blowing a trumpet and for what ???> > >> > > He thrives on creating fights between members. At the moment he has> > > succeeded in creating a fight between You, Vinayji, and Sunil> > > Bhattacharyaji and also uses the name of the onwer of that Group he> > > moderates to put him in this muddle he has craeted out of his evil> > > nature. Why does he need their shouldersto fight ? Is he spineless> to> > > come alone and fight one to one with his own strength? He has> spoiled> > > the names iof Brahmins. He is a ugly monster and a perverted person> > and> > > calls himself a bachelor , though he never accepts that no women is> > > ready to marry him due to his ugliness and nonsensical psycho> > > behaviours.> > >> > > He is a "shraap" a "abhishaap" and a black spot in the name of> > astrology> > > is very clear and apparent now, even to those who have little> > > commonsense. He has got no supporters left anymore. Those whom he> has> > he> > > thinks, are actually playing double games with him which he does not> > > realise. Poor Vinayji whatever may be our oppositions with him due> to> > > SuryaSiddhanta or whatever, but he has been used very craftily by> this> > > dirty moderator to realise his own fights and ends.> > >> > > But the frog has started croaking again and dirtying that Forum> which> > is> > > not his own but somebody elses, which he has no right to turn in a> > > gutter .> > >> > > Somebody tell him that he is not even fit to be an ordinary> astrologer> > > what to talk of seniority and such self given status which he cannot> > > touch even in the next 10 Life times.> > >> > > He is now creating a fight bewteen me and the other old astrologers> in> > > his Group. I tell you he must be brought on the road and made to sit> > > under a tree with a begging bowl which is the only work he is fit> for.> > > We have never spoken derogatorily about the old astrologers who> write> > > there only sometimes. We have spoken of this fellow bringing in new> > > people from nowhere and promoting them as astrologers in this Group> he> > > moderates. I doubt about his ancestory, because he behaves like a> > enemy> > > of this great divine science "Astrology".> > >> > > He cannot be a Brahmin, thats for sure now.> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > respected Bhaskar ji> > > >> > > > Sure ,Thanks> > > >> > > > sure ,i know how he downed many good grps by this methods and some> > > grps> > > > even exinct now .Many good astrologers even run away frm all> forums> > .> > > >> > > > Now one owner has given him power as moderater and he is slowly> > making> > > > it as a gutter> > > > but many of the general public dont know this kind of activities> of> > > that> > > > person .> > > >> > > > let him ban me frm his grp if he want> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > > > >> > > > > This same technique and ploy was used by him to stop me from> > writing> > > > in> > > > > that Group. Allowing fake ids to hit me, but not allowing my> mails> > > in> > > > > retaliation, except allowing few of mines initially, only to use> > > them> > > > as> > > > > a show case in front of the members and then use it as an excuse> > to> > > > > moderate me.> > > > >> > > > > Its very simple that he does not want you there. Just as he did> > not> > > > want> > > > > me there. Though it is not his own Group but he wants to rule> the> > > > roost> > > > > there by allowing only nondescript learners to write there, and> > > > removing> > > > > smart astrologers methodically one by one.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > dear grp> > > > > >> > > > > > this is one reply i got why he is holding my mails for last 14> > > days> > > > > > .Even this personal communication strted first to ask him to> > > > interfere> > > > > > and later i produced some posts without mentioning any one but> > to> > > > make> > > > > > him answer his points ,so as grp can see both arguemnts> > > > > >> > > > > > he agrees and then even not interfering as demanded by me (As> i> > > said> > > > i> > > > > > dont want to enter u pls ask him to proov his claims )> > > > > >> > > > > > then wat is the use of net forumns ???only to promote free> > > > predictions> > > > > > by some business seekers who even dont know what is astrology> by> > > > > > cheating innocent publics whom made to blv astro can b freely> > > > avilable> > > > > > in net and degrade astrology> > > > > >> > > > > > u can see he is asking me to proov and refute every thing by> > > asking> > > > me> > > > > > study spending my own time and report to him as if he is some> > king> > > > and> > > > > i> > > > > > am helpless creature in his kingdom> > > > > >> > > > > > sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > i removed some personal remarks he talked against so many good> > > > > > astrologers in this mail> > > > > >> > > > > > i am re producing here with my comnts> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Fri, 15/5/09, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@> > > > > > chandra in Makara over Nodes> > > > > > "sunil nair" astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > > Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:35 AM> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil,> > > > > >> > > > > > I hope u have seen the fate of his arguements> > > > > >> > > > > > ( yes why u r allowing same things again and again and holding> > my> > > > > mails> > > > > > or u r not interfering here-sunilnair )> > > > > >> > > > > > I asked for case studies he duceked it later said ok is> worjing> > on> > > > it> > > > > > so have given him time on it> > > > > > meantime said look on DEATH, i said just death alone that too> on> > > > > > principles he is using not all with no other LIFE EVENT in the> > > study> > > > > is> > > > > > not GOOD ENOUGH> > > > > > SO HE SAID IS WORKING ON A BIO-GRAPHY MODEL HE SAID CAN GIVE> HIM> > > > TIME> > > > > > BUT will continue to push him to demonstrate> > > > > >> > > > > > he trhen shifted to weather> > > > > >> > > > > > PL STUDY HIS WEATHER MATERIAL AND GET BACK will approve it> > > > > >> > > > > > { this is another ploy to make me submit all reports to him> and> > he> > > > can> > > > > > know how astro can b used ,mean time i shud teach moderater> > first> > > > for> > > > > my> > > > > > demanding of proofs of some one's claims claims -sunil nair }> > > > > >> > > > > > his pouplation theory looks interesting yet I did take him on> so> > > has> > > > > > suresh babu and others> > > > > >> > > > > > ( this already i prooved it is s wrong in mails and its> essense> > of> > > > > mails> > > > > > got blocked /deleted frm appearing in grp ( it was articles> > > without> > > > no> > > > > > mention of any names and that time moon was no where near> > > > rahu--sunil> > > > > > nair )> > > > > >> > > > > > i wwill give him as much time he wants and let him expose> > himself,> > > > how> > > > > > long can one escape with no time to do this or that but has> time> > > to> > > > > > reply to some silly mails in them> > > > > >> > > > > > ( This proovs he is not ready to discuss it in decent manner> nor> > > > > > allowing my mails ,rahter taking as an opportunity to harass> me> > to> > > > > > submit all proofs of refuting to him ( i giv him lot of> pointers> > > but> > > > > he> > > > > > wants more and more and as if he is some thing and i shud work> > and> > > > it> > > > > is> > > > > > my duty --sunil nair ) first then let him learn it than he> with> > > his> > > > own> > > > > intelleignce> > > > > > can meet such claims,and making exucuse chandra over rahu> --even> > > may> > > > b> > > > > > for last 27 days ,so after it i will approv my mails,how many> > grps> > > > > > affected by chandra over rahu/ketu which will happen tru out> the> > > > time> > > > > > till brahma dies and pralaya happens and universe re emerged> in> > > > > monthly> > > > > > basis every year so long as rahu /ketu is in vedic astrology )> > > > > >> > > > > > i am not posting ur all last mails now as chandra is n Makara> > with> > > > > > rahu-ketu axis and can lead to FLARE UPS so will spare the> group> > > in> > > > > mean> > > > > > time pl study the weather and make the report ready can> approve> > > both> > > > > > when chandra is Kumbha or meena> > > > > >> > > > > > (U can see here even after weeks again asking me to wait as if> i> > > am> > > > > some> > > > > > guilty or it was another ploy to revoke his ban happened in> this> > > grp> > > > > > and decided by all moderaters due to his underhand tactics ,he> > > > reports> > > > > > problem first on some memebr and then unleash a grp of fake> ids> > > and> > > > > > attack such persons ,so the poor fellow will defend it and> > counter> > > > it> > > > > > as there is no other option and all participated will get> banned> > > and> > > > > he> > > > > > is safe as he used only fake ids where as real astrologer is> out> > > frm> > > > > grp> > > > > > ,we traced such various activities to him --sunil nair )> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > i have less work now but am trying to catch up on some lost> > sleep> > > > for> > > > > > the past 28 months> > > > > > before my next batch of tenants come in for our apts and again> > > > > monotous> > > > > > fixing issues waiting for some service guys who NEVER COME ON> A> > > > GIVEN> > > > > > APPOINTMENT for days we r stuck> > > > > >> > > > > > Prashant> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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