Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dear Pathi ji, It is great to see you on Board. Thank you for your auspicious company. kind regards, Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > STRENGTH OF PLANETS >  > Qn: Sir, I read often in many contexts, that one has to find ‘strongest’ of the Planets in a chart for various interpretations. Is there any method to find this, or should I go to ‘Astakavarga’ charts for each planet and grade the strength of the Planet? >  > Ans: Very pertinent and important question. When you see a doctor, (even for a tooth ache!), the first act of his is to check the ‘pulse, color of tong, color of eye lids, perhaps blood pressure, heart beat etc’. Similarly, in a given short time for an Astrologer, he should have the ability to immediately find in a given chart the strength of the Planets in that chart, instead of going into other methods of ascertaining these, as into calculations for ‘shadbalas’ †" six fold strength.’ >  > Every Planet has ‘up or down qualities’ and every point of ‘strength’ has been set off against a point of ‘weakness’. These two ‘terms’ fluctuate according to varied ‘qualities’ acquired by Planet. The more the ‘plus’ points left in count with a Planet, that Planet will be termed ‘Stronger’ among other Planets in the chart. >  > Let me give a ‘check list’ for easy reach to find the ‘strongest’ planet in a chart: >  > (a).  The Planet or Planets positioned ‘exalted’ in a birth chart; > (b).  The Planet placed in its own sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; > ©.  It is placed in its friend’s place in the birth chart or Navamsa; > (d).  It is placed in a triangular house to Lagna > (e).  It is placed to an angular house to Lagna; > (f).   It is placed in the Moolathrikona sign in the birth chart; > (g).  It is a beneficial Planet for that particular Lagna in the birth chart; > (h).  It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a beneficial Planet for that Lagna; > (i).   The Planet is Vargottama; > (j).   The Planet is in retrograde; > (k)   The Planet has a ‘directional’ strength in the ‘Birth Chart’: >  > The Sun and the Moon in the 10th House from Lagna; > The Moon and the Venus in the fourth house from Lagna; > Jupiter and Mercury in the First House (Lagna) >            Saturn positioned in the seventh house from Lagna. > (l)         A waxing Moon is more powerful than a waning Moon: >  >              The Moon gets stronger as it moves away from the Sun. It is very important that the Moon is ‘powerful’ in a birth chart, as this will indicate how intelligent or relatively sharp in thinking of the Natal. Those born on ‘new Moon’ will have Sun and Moon in the same house, while those born in ‘full Moon’ will find that Sun and the Moon are diagonally opposite houses in a chart. So, the Moon is considered to be weak when born on Amavasya, and relatively strong for those born on Pournami. >  > (m).    The Sun is more powerful when positioned in the signs from Capricorn (Makara) to Gemini (Mithuna) †" said to be in move in ‘Uttarayana’. > (n).     A Planet hemmed between ‘beneficial’ Plants for the chart; > (o).     A Planet which is in aspect of beneficial Planets for the chart, on the adjoining house on either side of the house in which the Planet is positioned; > (p).    The Planet is positioned between 12ºand 18º in a sign. >  > Let us now see when a Planet is said to be weak in a chart: >  > (a)   A Planet is debilitated in a birth chart or in Navamsa; > (b)   A Planet is in its natural enemy’s sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; > ©Â    The Planet is in 6th, 8th, or 12th House from Lagna; > (d)   It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a malefic Planet for that Lagna; > (e)    The Planet is a malefic Planet to that Lagna; > (f)     The Planet is combust; > (g)   When the Planet is hemmed with malefic Planets in a house > (h)   When the Planet has aspect of a malefic Planet; > (i)     The Planet is in the last degree of a movable or a fixed sign. When this is applied in a common sign the Planet must be Vargothama and thereby becomes ‘strong’; > (j)     The Planet is not having directional strength. >  > An Astrologer must note for, it is bad to have Venus in 12th House, Mercury in the 8th house, or Jupiter in the 6th House from Janma Lagna. However, it is also found that Venus in 12th House should not be in the sign or Navamsa of Saturn. >  >  > Pathi. >  > A.V.Pathi,  > Astrologer, (consultation fees payable for direct detailed studies) > 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, > Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, > Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom.   Pl. contact 'kountinya29' > " ........When there is uncertainty, He gave us hope; > When there was indecision,He gave us clarity.... " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dear Sir, Regarding Amavasya Birth and Pournami Birth, In india most of the people think that Amavasya birth is good for females and bad for males. And pournami birth is good for males. Why Amavasya and Pournami births are considered in this way with respect to gender? Kindly clarify my doubt. Thank you. Sincerely, Sai Krishna--- On Wed, 27/5/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav Strength of Planets:asthikasamaj, astro_remedies , astroriber , vedic astrology , brahmin_world, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises, gururangan, HARE_RAM, "Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_" <Digest >, "Astrologer India" <astroastronomy, jyothish_remedies , , , shaneeswara , sheevani147, suniljohn_2002, vighneshare, "brahimn tvm group" <kbstvm, "DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA" <drprkprasad, 4brahmins , delhindu , Jyotish_Astrology_Newsletter, sadhaka , sohamsa , vedic astrology Cc: sadhaka , askyourastroquery , delhindu , iyer-foundation (AT) googl (DOT) com, , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 1:07 PM STRENGTH OF PLANETS Qn: Sir, I read often in many contexts, that one has to find ‘strongest’ of the Planets in a chart for various interpretations. Is there any method to find this, or should I go to ‘Astakavarga’ charts for each planet and grade the strength of the Planet? Ans: Very pertinent and important question. When you see a doctor, (even for a tooth ache!), the first act of his is to check the ‘pulse, color of tong, color of eye lids, perhaps blood pressure, heart beat etc’. Similarly, in a given short time for an Astrologer, he should have the ability to immediately find in a given chart the strength of the Planets in that chart, instead of going into other methods of ascertaining these, as into calculations for ‘shadbalas’ – six fold strength.’ Every Planet has ‘up or down qualities’ and every point of ‘strength’ has been set off against a point of ‘weakness’. These two ‘terms’ fluctuate according to varied ‘qualities’ acquired by Planet. The more the ‘plus’ points left in count with a Planet, that Planet will be termed ‘Stronger’ among other Planets in the chart. Let me give a ‘check list’ for easy reach to find the ‘strongest’ planet in a chart: (a). The Planet or Planets positioned ‘exalted’ in a birth chart; (b). The Planet placed in its own sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; ©. It is placed in its friend’s place in the birth chart or Navamsa; (d). It is placed in a triangular house to Lagna (e). It is placed to an angular house to Lagna; (f). It is placed in the Moolathrikona sign in the birth chart; (g). It is a beneficial Planet for that particular Lagna in the birth chart; (h). It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a beneficial Planet for that Lagna; (i). The Planet is Vargottama; (j). The Planet is in retrograde; (k) The Planet has a ‘directional’ strength in the ‘Birth Chart’: The Sun and the Moon in the 10th House from Lagna; The Moon and the Venus in the fourth house from Lagna; Jupiter and Mercury in the First House (Lagna) Saturn positioned in the seventh house from Lagna. (l) A waxing Moon is more powerful than a waning Moon: The Moon gets stronger as it moves away from the Sun. It is very important that the Moon is ‘powerful’ in a birth chart, as this will indicate how intelligent or relatively sharp in thinking of the Natal. Those born on ‘new Moon’ will have Sun and Moon in the same house, while those born in ‘full Moon’ will find that Sun and the Moon are diagonally opposite houses in a chart. So, the Moon is considered to be weak when born on Amavasya, and relatively strong for those born on Pournami. (m). The Sun is more powerful when positioned in the signs from Capricorn (Makara) to Gemini (Mithuna) – said to be in move in ‘Uttarayana’. (n). A Planet hemmed between ‘beneficial’ Plants for the chart; (o). A Planet which is in aspect of beneficial Planets for the chart, on the adjoining house on either side of the house in which the Planet is positioned; (p). The Planet is positioned between 12ºand 18º in a sign. Let us now see when a Planet is said to be weak in a chart: (a) A Planet is debilitated in a birth chart or in Navamsa; (b) A Planet is in its natural enemy’s sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; © The Planet is in 6th, 8th, or 12th House from Lagna; (d) It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a malefic Planet for that Lagna; (e) The Planet is a malefic Planet to that Lagna; (f) The Planet is combust; (g) When the Planet is hemmed with malefic Planets in a house (h) When the Planet has aspect of a malefic Planet; (i) The Planet is in the last degree of a movable or a fixed sign. When this is applied in a common sign the Planet must be Vargothama and thereby becomes ‘strong’; (j) The Planet is not having directional strength. An Astrologer must note for, it is bad to have Venus in 12th House, Mercury in the 8th house, or Jupiter in the 6th House from Janma Lagna. However, it is also found that Venus in 12th House should not be in the sign or Navamsa of Saturn. Pathi. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, (consultation fees payable for direct detailed studies) 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom. Pl. contact 'kountinya29@ gmail.com' "........When there is uncertainty, He gave us hope; When there was indecision,He gave us clarity...." Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sir, I will not be able to 'support' or 'reject' their view on the births in Amavasya and Pournami, where as the 'distinctions' given by you could not be supported by the available books of authority on the subject, as I know/read so far. I request you to kindly inform me the support from such authors on your 'informed' opinions on the subject. Thank you very much. (I am an Indian and left India in my age of 67 and I am now in my age of 79) Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . neo spiritualist <neospiritualistsohamsa ; pathiavSent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:16:54 PMRe: Strength of Planets: Dear Sir, Regarding Amavasya Birth and Pournami Birth, In india most of the people think that Amavasya birth is good for females and bad for males. And pournami birth is good for males. Why Amavasya and Pournami births are considered in this way with respect to gender? Kindly clarify my doubt. Thank you. Sincerely, Sai Krishna--- On Wed, 27/5/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Strength of Planets:asthikasamaj@ . co.in, astro_remedies, astroriber@gro ups.com, vedic astrology, brahmin_world@ . co.in, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>, gururangan (AT) gmail (DOT) com, HARE_RAM@ s..com, "Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest >, "Astrologer India" <astroastronomy@ .co. in>, jyothish_remedies, , , shaneeswara, sheevani147@ .co. uk, suniljohn_2002@ , vighneshare@ .co. in, "brahimn tvm group" <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>, "DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA" <drprkprasad@ hotmail.com>, 4brahmins@grou ps.com, delhindu@ s.com, Jyotish_Astrology_ Newsletter@ , sadhaka@ .com, sohamsa@ .com, vedic astrologyCc: sadhaka@ .com, askyourastroquery, delhindu@ s.com, iyer-foundation@ googl. com, , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 1:07 PM STRENGTH OF PLANETS Qn: Sir, I read often in many contexts, that one has to find ‘strongest’ of the Planets in a chart for various interpretations. Is there any method to find this, or should I go to ‘Astakavarga’ charts for each planet and grade the strength of the Planet? Ans: Very pertinent and important question. When you see a doctor, (even for a tooth ache!), the first act of his is to check the ‘pulse, color of tong, color of eye lids, perhaps blood pressure, heart beat etc’. Similarly, in a given short time for an Astrologer, he should have the ability to immediately find in a given chart the strength of the Planets in that chart, instead of going into other methods of ascertaining these, as into calculations for ‘shadbalas’ – six fold strength.’ Every Planet has ‘up or down qualities’ and every point of ‘strength’ has been set off against a point of ‘weakness’. These two ‘terms’ fluctuate according to varied ‘qualities’ acquired by Planet. The more the ‘plus’ points left in count with a Planet, that Planet will be termed ‘Stronger’ among other Planets in the chart. Let me give a ‘check list’ for easy reach to find the ‘strongest’ planet in a chart: (a). The Planet or Planets positioned ‘exalted’ in a birth chart; (b). The Planet placed in its own sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; ©. It is placed in its friend’s place in the birth chart or Navamsa; (d). It is placed in a triangular house to Lagna (e). It is placed to an angular house to Lagna; (f). It is placed in the Moolathrikona sign in the birth chart; (g). It is a beneficial Planet for that particular Lagna in the birth chart; (h). It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a beneficial Planet for that Lagna; (i). The Planet is Vargottama; (j). The Planet is in retrograde; (k) The Planet has a ‘directional’ strength in the ‘Birth Chart’: The Sun and the Moon in the 10th House from Lagna; The Moon and the Venus in the fourth house from Lagna; Jupiter and Mercury in the First House (Lagna) Saturn positioned in the seventh house from Lagna. (l) A waxing Moon is more powerful than a waning Moon: The Moon gets stronger as it moves away from the Sun. It is very important that the Moon is ‘powerful’ in a birth chart, as this will indicate how intelligent or relatively sharp in thinking of the Natal. Those born on ‘new Moon’ will have Sun and Moon in the same house, while those born in ‘full Moon’ will find that Sun and the Moon are diagonally opposite houses in a chart. So, the Moon is considered to be weak when born on Amavasya, and relatively strong for those born on Pournami. (m). The Sun is more powerful when positioned in the signs from Capricorn (Makara) to Gemini (Mithuna) – said to be in move in ‘Uttarayana’. (n). A Planet hemmed between ‘beneficial’ Plants for the chart; (o). A Planet which is in aspect of beneficial Planets for the chart, on the adjoining house on either side of the house in which the Planet is positioned; (p). The Planet is positioned between 12ºand 18º in a sign. Let us now see when a Planet is said to be weak in a chart: (a) A Planet is debilitated in a birth chart or in Navamsa; (b) A Planet is in its natural enemy’s sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; © The Planet is in 6th, 8th, or 12th House from Lagna; (d) It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a malefic Planet for that Lagna; (e) The Planet is a malefic Planet to that Lagna; (f) The Planet is combust; (g) When the Planet is hemmed with malefic Planets in a house (h) When the Planet has aspect of a malefic Planet; (i) The Planet is in the last degree of a movable or a fixed sign. When this is applied in a common sign the Planet must be Vargothama and thereby becomes ‘strong’; (j) The Planet is not having directional strength. An Astrologer must note for, it is bad to have Venus in 12th House, Mercury in the 8th house, or Jupiter in the 6th House from Janma Lagna. However, it is also found that Venus in 12th House should not be in the sign or Navamsa of Saturn. Pathi. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, (consultation fees payable for direct detailed studies) 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom. Pl. contact 'kountinya29@ gmail.com' "........When there is uncertainty, He gave us hope; When there was indecision,He gave us clarity...." Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Dear Sir, I am from south india and from a village and I came to know about this in my village and its a popular belief there. But i dont know whether its mentioned in any book or not. Thank you very much. Regards, Sai Krishna.--- On Mon, 8/6/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiavRe: Strength of Planets:sohamsaCc: "neo spiritualist" <neospiritualistMonday, 8 June, 2009, 9:25 PM Sir, I will not be able to 'support' or 'reject' their view on the births in Amavasya and Pournami, where as the 'distinctions' given by you could not be supported by the available books of authority on the subject, as I know/read so far. I request you to kindly inform me the support from such authors on your 'informed' opinions on the subject. Thank you very much. (I am an Indian and left India in my age of 67 and I am now in my age of 79) Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . neo spiritualist <neospiritualist@ .co. in>sohamsa@ .com; pathiav Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:16:54 PMRe: Strength of Planets: Dear Sir, Regarding Amavasya Birth and Pournami Birth, In india most of the people think that Amavasya birth is good for females and bad for males. And pournami birth is good for males. Why Amavasya and Pournami births are considered in this way with respect to gender? Kindly clarify my doubt. Thank you. Sincerely, Sai Krishna--- On Wed, 27/5/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Strength of Planets:asthikasamaj@ . co.in, astro_remedies, astroriber@gro ups.com, vedic astrology, brahmin_world@ . co.in, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>, gururangan (AT) gmail (DOT) com, HARE_RAM@ s..com, "Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest >, "Astrologer India" <astroastronomy@ .co. in>, jyothish_remedies, , , shaneeswara, sheevani147@ .co. uk, suniljohn_2002@ , vighneshare@ .co. in, "brahimn tvm group" <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>, "DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA" <drprkprasad@ hotmail.com>, 4brahmins@grou ps.com, delhindu@ s.com, Jyotish_Astrology_ Newsletter@ , sadhaka@ .com, sohamsa@ .com, vedic astrologyCc: sadhaka@ .com, askyourastroquery, delhindu@ s.com, iyer-foundation@ googl. com, , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 1:07 PM STRENGTH OF PLANETS Qn: Sir, I read often in many contexts, that one has to find ‘strongest’ of the Planets in a chart for various interpretations. Is there any method to find this, or should I go to ‘Astakavarga’ charts for each planet and grade the strength of the Planet? Ans: Very pertinent and important question. When you see a doctor, (even for a tooth ache!), the first act of his is to check the ‘pulse, color of tong, color of eye lids, perhaps blood pressure, heart beat etc’. Similarly, in a given short time for an Astrologer, he should have the ability to immediately find in a given chart the strength of the Planets in that chart, instead of going into other methods of ascertaining these, as into calculations for ‘shadbalas’ – six fold strength.’ Every Planet has ‘up or down qualities’ and every point of ‘strength’ has been set off against a point of ‘weakness’. These two ‘terms’ fluctuate according to varied ‘qualities’ acquired by Planet. The more the ‘plus’ points left in count with a Planet, that Planet will be termed ‘Stronger’ among other Planets in the chart. Let me give a ‘check list’ for easy reach to find the ‘strongest’ planet in a chart: (a). The Planet or Planets positioned ‘exalted’ in a birth chart; (b). The Planet placed in its own sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; ©. It is placed in its friend’s place in the birth chart or Navamsa; (d). It is placed in a triangular house to Lagna (e). It is placed to an angular house to Lagna; (f). It is placed in the Moolathrikona sign in the birth chart; (g). It is a beneficial Planet for that particular Lagna in the birth chart; (h). It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a beneficial Planet for that Lagna; (i). The Planet is Vargottama; (j). The Planet is in retrograde; (k) The Planet has a ‘directional’ strength in the ‘Birth Chart’: The Sun and the Moon in the 10th House from Lagna; The Moon and the Venus in the fourth house from Lagna; Jupiter and Mercury in the First House (Lagna) Saturn positioned in the seventh house from Lagna. (l) A waxing Moon is more powerful than a waning Moon: The Moon gets stronger as it moves away from the Sun. It is very important that the Moon is ‘powerful’ in a birth chart, as this will indicate how intelligent or relatively sharp in thinking of the Natal. Those born on ‘new Moon’ will have Sun and Moon in the same house, while those born in ‘full Moon’ will find that Sun and the Moon are diagonally opposite houses in a chart. So, the Moon is considered to be weak when born on Amavasya, and relatively strong for those born on Pournami. (m). The Sun is more powerful when positioned in the signs from Capricorn (Makara) to Gemini (Mithuna) – said to be in move in ‘Uttarayana’. (n). A Planet hemmed between ‘beneficial’ Plants for the chart; (o). A Planet which is in aspect of beneficial Planets for the chart, on the adjoining house on either side of the house in which the Planet is positioned; (p). The Planet is positioned between 12ºand 18º in a sign. Let us now see when a Planet is said to be weak in a chart: (a) A Planet is debilitated in a birth chart or in Navamsa; (b) A Planet is in its natural enemy’s sign in the birth chart or Navamsa; © The Planet is in 6th, 8th, or 12th House from Lagna; (d) It is associated with or aspected by a Planet that is a malefic Planet for that Lagna; (e) The Planet is a malefic Planet to that Lagna; (f) The Planet is combust; (g) When the Planet is hemmed with malefic Planets in a house (h) When the Planet has aspect of a malefic Planet; (i) The Planet is in the last degree of a movable or a fixed sign. When this is applied in a common sign the Planet must be Vargothama and thereby becomes ‘strong’; (j) The Planet is not having directional strength. An Astrologer must note for, it is bad to have Venus in 12th House, Mercury in the 8th house, or Jupiter in the 6th House from Janma Lagna. However, it is also found that Venus in 12th House should not be in the sign or Navamsa of Saturn. Pathi. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, (consultation fees payable for direct detailed studies) 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road, Cherry Willingham, 0044+01522+595996, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom. Pl. contact 'kountinya29@ gmail.com' "........When there is uncertainty, He gave us hope; When there was indecision,He gave us clarity...." Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel Click here! Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.* Click here!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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