Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 The Cat is out of the Bag In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great Jyotish group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been maintaining since long about him. In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman Clan, confessed that he "is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha". I have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 out of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads and Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs working upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology. He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the Moderator. I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which they make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes. best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Latest Development The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member whom he had given wrong predictions that - " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he gets a wrong prediction". He also said in his last mail that "Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now given some right predictions " which in other words he is trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now working on the ayanamsha to make it better. Ask this rascal what is the meaning of "ayanamsha" and he would not be able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom they can squeeze for money. Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > The Cat is out of the Bag> > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great Jyotish> group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been> maintaining since long about him.> > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member> smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after> shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman> Clan, confessed that he "is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha". I> have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 out> of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads and> Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using> the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the> wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed> again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs working> upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis> Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology.> > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the> Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major> portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and> heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the> software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the> Moderator.> > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their> failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the> Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of> yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which they> make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults> quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, So the question to ask back would be: If there is a correct prediction then it is obviously because the Karmas of the person enquiring is good enough. If this is true, why should the astrologer be paid for his services? After all he is not earning his money. It is only the Karma of the person that determines the prediction's accuracy? So all his services should be for free. Infact he should refund all the money he has made so far predicting for others. Is this not true? Regards, -Manoj ________________________________ Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Friday, June 19, 2009 12:12:02 PM Re: The Cat is out of the Bag Latest Development The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member whom he had given wrong predictions that - " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he gets a wrong prediction " . He also said in his last mail that " Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now given some right predictions "   which in other words he is trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now working on the ayanamsha to make it better. Ask this rascal what is the meaning of " ayanamsha " and he would not be able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom they can squeeze for money. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > The Cat is out of the Bag > > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great Jyotish > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been > maintaining since long about him. > > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman > Clan, confessed that he " is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha " . I > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 out > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads and > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs working > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology. > > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the > Moderator. > > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which they > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Respected Bhaskarji, I request u to be more polite in your views about others. I understand that at least people, who learned properly astrology and acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not use second grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is from your fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ in writings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the same view as you have ? I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum, but there should be some ethics to be maintained. I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my query all these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we are sharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be. One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is not related at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through your forum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition. If anybody goes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same, for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and look nice. Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way felt awkward to you. God bless you and your forum. regards Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag ) Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM Re: The Cat is out of the Bag Latest Development The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member whom he had given wrong predictions that - " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he gets a wrong prediction". He also said in his last mail that "Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now given some right predictions " which in other words he is trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now working on the ayanamsha to make it better. Ask this rascal what is the meaning of "ayanamsha" and he would not be able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom they can squeeze for money. Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > The Cat is out of the Bag> > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great Jyotish> group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been> maintaining since long about him.> > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member> smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after> shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman> Clan, confessed that he "is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha". I> have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 out> of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads and> Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using> the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the> wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed> again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs working> upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis> Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology.> > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the> Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major> portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and> heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the> software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the> Moderator.> > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their> failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the> Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of> yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which they> make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults> quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dear Anurag ji, One should gather all knowledge about a topic he speaks about and before he becomes judgemental. First of all, he is not from my fraternity, as I dont even consider him as a astrologer because most of know for sure that he does not know abc of astrology. I just consider him as a person who is out to fool others. Next- The forum he moderates is not a competetitor forum, it never was, rather it was a Father forum for me where I first started writing and which I miss very much as my first home, till this fellow turned moderator. Next - Where were your ethic and all this talk when he started talking about this group as a " Gutter Group " . Where were you when I used to ask pleadingly in that Group -what happened to my mails , why are they not appearing at all, or if they are appearing why so late . Where were you when my replies to those members asking for help did not reach them ? Where were you when that dirty moderator posted a File in my name in the JR Group as " Abuse File by Bhaskar " , where abuse mails written by me were put on record for the old and new members to read ? You call this ethics ? Why was your mouth stitched that time, and why were you like a corpse that time when I wanted support from people. He has written about my family Life, my chart, my father and what not . You call that ethics ? Why were you silent that time ? Now you are coming to precah me ? He called me a Mafia Don. still calls me a Bhasmasura. He says that this Ganga is rotten. And you have all the time kept silent ? Why ? Why ? Why ? I dont have to survive anywhere by talking rotten about others. Whenever I enter a arena to play a Game, my " win " is already decided before the start of the game. Because I only play the Games where Dharma abounds. I talk rot about such creatures only when they talk rot about me, or Shastras, or Great people like BV Raman, their familes and their ayanamshas. I have still not finished. You may see me continuing this infuture whenever I notice anything amiss. That man has tortured me and hurt me continously for 2 years and has been the cause of creating enemies for me due to his creating heat and fires between innocent people. Silence is at times taken as a mark of cowardice or submission or a defeat. For 2 years You may check the records of this Group, I have not spoken a single word about him, And for 2 years he has used that Group owned by someone else for spilling hate on me, and spoiling my reputation by putting a fabricated abuse file in my name. If You kept silent then, what is the purpose of speaking now ? If You now say that you did not know all this, then first learn the Ramayana, Mahabharata and get acquainted of the stories therein before you turn a preacher. About your saying whether other astrologers of the forum having same views about me, I dont care. I have nevr been a hypocritical person and tried to mainatain a image which i was not. What I am , I appear so before the public, and do not like facades or masks. If I am abuseive then so I am, if I use bad language then so do I. Whatever one must do, he must be good in that, I am confident about my being good in bad language or whataver and it makes effect where I want it to. It is done just to bring in the impact desired, and nothing else. I have nothing against you personally, I know you write all this for my own good, so dont take any offence personally please, just as I did not take it personal. regards, Bhaskar. , Anurag Arora <anuarora60 wrote: > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > I request u to be more polite in your views about others. I understand that at least people, who learned properly astrology and acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not use second grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is from your fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ in writings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the same view as you have ? > > I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum, but there should be some ethics to be maintained. > > I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my query all these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we are sharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be. > > One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is not related at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through your forum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition. If anybody goes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same, for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and look nice.  > > > Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way felt awkward to you. > > God bless you and your forum. > > regards > Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag ) > >       > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM > Re: The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > > Latest Development > The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member whom he had given wrong predictions that - > " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he gets a wrong prediction " . > He also said in his last mail that " Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now given some right predictions "   which in other words he is trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now working on the ayanamsha to make it better. > Ask this rascal what is the meaning of " ayanamsha " and he would not be able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom they can squeeze for money. > Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great Jyotish > > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been > > maintaining since long about him. > > > > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member > > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after > > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman > > Clan, confessed that he " is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha " . I > > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 out > > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads and > > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using > > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the > > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed > > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs working > > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis > > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology. > > > > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the > > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major > > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and > > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the > > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the > > Moderator. > > > > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their > > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the > > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of > > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which they > > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults > > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dear Anurag Arora, I also request you not to enter these games of Politics which at the moment you are into, writing in JR, VA and JG simultaneously at the same time. You will just be used as a pawn by the JR Moderator, nothing else, for all his previous victims will vouch this. Do not allow yourself to be used further by him. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Anurag Arora <anuarora60 wrote: > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > I request u to be more polite in your views about others. I understand that at least people, who learned properly astrology and acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not use second grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is from your fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ in writings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the same view as you have ? > > I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum, but there should be some ethics to be maintained. > > I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my query all these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we are sharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be. > > One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is not related at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through your forum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition. If anybody goes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same, for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and look nice.  > > > Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way felt awkward to you. > > God bless you and your forum. > > regards > Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag ) > >       > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM > Re: The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > > Latest Development > The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member whom he had given wrong predictions that - > " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he gets a wrong prediction " . > He also said in his last mail that " Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now given some right predictions "   which in other words he is trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now working on the ayanamsha to make it better. > Ask this rascal what is the meaning of " ayanamsha " and he would not be able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom they can squeeze for money. > Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great Jyotish > > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been > > maintaining since long about him. > > > > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member > > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after > > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the Raman > > Clan, confessed that he " is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha " . I > > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 out > > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads and > > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been using > > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the > > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed > > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs working > > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis > > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology. > > > > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on the > > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major > > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies and > > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the > > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the > > Moderator. > > > > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their > > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the > > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of > > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which they > > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making faults > > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET http://cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dear Anurag ji, The Query you made in the other name some time back to me and accepted it as coming from your own id, I hope is not a ploy used by Your goodself and the JR Moderator to hit back at me after few days, saying that " Your Predictions were wrong " , and then make fun of same. Because I did not ask you to call me, so I hope I have not fell in some trap. Though I dont care for any images, but all the same. regards/Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Anurag Arora, > > I also request you not to enter these games of Politics which at the > moment you are into, writing in JR, VA and JG simultaneously at the same > time. You will just be used as a pawn by the JR Moderator, nothing else, > for all his previous victims will vouch this. Do not allow yourself to > be used further by him. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , Anurag Arora anuarora60@ > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > I request u to be more polite in your views about others. I > understand that at least people, who learned properly astrology > and acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not use > second grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is from > your fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ in > writings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the same > view as you have ? > > > > I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum, > but there should be some ethics to be maintained. > > > > I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my query > all these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we are > sharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be. > > > > One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is not > related at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through your > forum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition. If anybody > goes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same, > for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and look > nice.  > > > > > > Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way felt > awkward to you. > > > > God bless you and your forum. > > > > regards > > Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag ) > > > >       > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM > > Re: The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > > > > > > > Latest Development > > The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member > whom he had given wrong predictions that - > > " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he > gets a wrong prediction " . > > He also said in his last mail that " Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now > given some right predictions "   which in other words he is > trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now > working on the ayanamsha to make it better. > > Ask this rascal what is the meaning of " ayanamsha " and he would not be > able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. > Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows > of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom > they can squeeze for money. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > > > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great > Jyotish > > > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been > > > maintaining since long about him. > > > > > > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member > > > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after > > > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the > Raman > > > Clan, confessed that he " is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha " . > I > > > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 > out > > > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads > and > > > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been > using > > > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the > > > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed > > > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs > working > > > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis > > > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology. > > > > > > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on > the > > > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major > > > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies > and > > > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the > > > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the > > > Moderator. > > > > > > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their > > > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the > > > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of > > > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which > they > > > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making > faults > > > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England & #39;09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > http://cricket. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Respected Bhaskarji. I appriciate your comments. I still feel that I am not a preacher, and i can not be. I commented because i thought that this forum has far more better scope of work than just mud sledging. Moreover it all started due to my query. You people are doing far more better job in serving people in distress/agony and pain in life. So PERIOD.....!!!!! Sorry in case it hurt you. regards Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 3:31:14 AM Re: The Cat is out of the BagDear Anurag ji,One should gather all knowledge about a topic he speaks about and beforehe becomes judgemental.First of all, he is not from my fraternity, as I dont even consider himas a astrologer because most of know for sure that he does not know abcof astrology. I just consider him as a person who is out to fool others.Next- The forum he moderates is not a competetitor forum, it never was,rather it was a Father forum for me where I first started writing andwhich I miss very much as my first home, till this fellow turnedmoderator.Next - Where were your ethic and all this talk when he started talkingabout this group as a "Gutter Group". Where were you when I used to askpleadingly in that Group -what happened to my mails , why are they notappearing at all, or if they are appearing why so late . Where were youwhen my replies to those members asking for help did not reach them ?Where were you when that dirty moderator posted a File in my name in theJR Group as "Abuse File by Bhaskar", where abuse mails written by mewere put on record for the old and new members to read ? You call thisethics ? Why was your mouth stitched that time, and why were you like acorpse that time when I wanted support from people. He has written aboutmy family Life, my chart, my father and what not . You call that ethics? Why were you silent that time ? Now you are coming to precah me ? Hecalled me a Mafia Don. still calls me a Bhasmasura. He says that thisGanga is rotten. And you have all the time kept silent ? Why ? Why ? Why?I dont have to survive anywhere by talking rotten about others. WheneverI enter a arena to play a Game, my "win" is already decided before thestart of the game. Because I only play the Games where Dharma abounds. Italk rot about such creatures only when they talk rot about me, orShastras, or Great people like BV Raman, their familes and theirayanamshas.I have still not finished. You may see me continuing this infuturewhenever I notice anything amiss. That man has tortured me and hurt mecontinously for 2 years and has been the cause of creating enemies forme due to his creating heat and fires between innocent people.Silence is at times taken as a mark of cowardice or submission or adefeat. For 2 years You may check the records of this Group, I have notspoken a single word about him, And for 2 years he has used that Groupowned by someone else for spilling hate on me, and spoiling myreputation by putting a fabricated abuse file in my name. If You keptsilent then, what is the purpose of speaking now ? If You now say thatyou did not know all this, then first learn the Ramayana, Mahabharataand get acquainted of the stories therein before you turn a preacher.About your saying whether other astrologers of the forum having sameviews about me, I dont care. I have nevr been a hypocritical person andtried to mainatain a image which i was not. What I am , I appear sobefore the public, and do not like facades or masks.. If I am abuseivethen so I am, if I use bad language then so do I. Whatever one must do,he must be good in that, I am confident about my being good in badlanguage or whataver and it makes effect where I want it to. It is donejust to bring in the impact desired, and nothing else.I have nothing against you personally, I know you write all this for myown good, so dont take any offence personally please, just as I did nottake it personal.regards,Bhaskar. , Anurag Arora <anuarora60wrote:>> Respected Bhaskarji,>> I request u to be more polite in your views about others. Iunderstand that at least people, who learned properly astrologyand acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not usesecond grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is fromyour fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ inwritings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the sameview as you have ?>> I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum,but there should be some ethics to be maintained.>> I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my queryall these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we areÂsharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be.>> One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is notrelated at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through yourforum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition. If anybodygoes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same,for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and looknice. Â>>> Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way feltawkward to you.>> God bless you and your forum.>> regards> Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag )>>      Â>>>>> ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM> Re: The Cat is out of the Bag>>>>> Latest Development> The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the memberwhom he had given wrong predictions that -> " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so hegets a wrong prediction".> He also said in his last mail that "Ramans ayanamsha had uptil nowgiven some right predictions "  which in other words he istrying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is nowworking on the ayanamsha to make it better.> Ask this rascal what is the meaning of "ayanamsha" and he would not beable to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it.Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadowsof the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whomthey can squeeze for money.> Bhaskar.>> , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@wrote:> >> >> > The Cat is out of the Bag> >> > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time greatJyotish> > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been> > maintaining since long about him.> >> > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member> > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after> > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with theRaman> > Clan, confessed that he "is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha".I> > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5out> > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Headsand> > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always beenusing> > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the> > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed> > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needsworking> > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis> > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology.> >> > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming onthe> > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major> > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversiesand> > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the> > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the> > Moderator.> >> > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their> > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the> > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of> > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings whichthey> > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to makingfaults> > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >>>>>>>> ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKEThttp://cricket.>---1)Send your email at 2)This is the first, and the only Indian Astrology Group being honoured and felicitated by , at the Moderators Union 2008,Mumbai 3)View the write up on Jyotish Ganga by india group at http://www.ygroupsblog.in/blog/2009/03/19/jyotish-ganga-%e2%80%93-stars-and-destiny/#comments4)Learners are encouraged to ask and discuss astrological issues as we have experts to answer and quench their thirst of knowledge.5)Experts are encouraged to share their views in the group and hold healthy discussion to help each other achieve a better understanding and help the learners advance in their journey.6)Practitioners may come forward to help those who are in trouble and come here to seek our help.7)The seekers!Those who connect with us because they are looking for an astrological solution to any problem they are facing in life, are welcome to post their query for our expert astrologers, who will try their best to answer. 8)Lastly,The posters must of course maintain the decorum of the forum and send clearly stated queries with their birth details as date, time and place of birth. JOIN NOW/joinRegards,Owner Krishna Kumar Bagri(Bhaskar Jyotish - (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna)(Vedic,Sayana,Nirayana Astrologer, Palmist, Numerologer, Dowser and Vastu Consultant)Website - www.shrikrishnajyotish.comFounder -The Indian Astrologers Association, The Society of Indian Astrologers. email id- rajiventerprises email id- bhaskar_jyotishCell No. 9323522663- 9324214149 Land – 91-22-24330886Group Moderators: Sunil NairNeelam Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dear Anurag ji, Its okay. Please do not blame yourself. On the contrary because of you , matters have been put in proper perspective and any misunderstandings which new members may have due to this thread, may be removed. thanks and regards, Bhaskar. , Anurag Arora <anuarora60 wrote: > > Respected Bhaskarji. > I appriciate your comments. I still feel that I am not a preacher, and i can not be. > > I commented because i thought that this forum has far more better scope of work than just mud sledging. Moreover it all started due to my query. You people are doing far more better job in serving people in distress/agony and pain in life. > > So PERIOD.....!!!!! > > Sorry in case it hurt you. > regards  > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Saturday, 20 June, 2009 3:31:14 AM > Re: The Cat is out of the Bag > > > Dear Anurag ji, > > One should gather all knowledge about a topic he speaks about and before > he becomes judgemental. > > First of all, he is not from my fraternity, as I dont even consider him > as a astrologer because most of know for sure that he does not know abc > of astrology. I just consider him as a person who is out to fool others. > > Next- The forum he moderates is not a competetitor forum, it never was, > rather it was a Father forum for me where I first started writing and > which I miss very much as my first home, till this fellow turned > moderator. > > Next - Where were your ethic and all this talk when he started talking > about this group as a " Gutter Group " . Where were you when I used to ask > pleadingly in that Group -what happened to my mails , why are they not > appearing at all, or if they are appearing why so late . Where were you > when my replies to those members asking for help did not reach them ? > Where were you when that dirty moderator posted a File in my name in the > JR Group as " Abuse File by Bhaskar " , where abuse mails written by me > were put on record for the old and new members to read ? You call this > ethics ? Why was your mouth stitched that time, and why were you like a > corpse that time when I wanted support from people. He has written about > my family Life, my chart, my father and what not . You call that ethics > ? Why were you silent that time ? Now you are coming to precah me ? He > called me a Mafia Don. still calls me a Bhasmasura. He says that this > Ganga is rotten. And you have all the time kept silent ? Why ? Why ? Why > ? > > I dont have to survive anywhere by talking rotten about others. Whenever > I enter a arena to play a Game, my " win " is already decided before the > start of the game. Because I only play the Games where Dharma abounds. I > talk rot about such creatures only when they talk rot about me, or > Shastras, or Great people like BV Raman, their familes and their > ayanamshas. > > I have still not finished. You may see me continuing this infuture > whenever I notice anything amiss. That man has tortured me and hurt me > continously for 2 years and has been the cause of creating enemies for > me due to his creating heat and fires between innocent people. > > Silence is at times taken as a mark of cowardice or submission or a > defeat. For 2 years You may check the records of this Group, I have not > spoken a single word about him, And for 2 years he has used that Group > owned by someone else for spilling hate on me, and spoiling my > reputation by putting a fabricated abuse file in my name.. If You kept > silent then, what is the purpose of speaking now ? If You now say that > you did not know all this, then first learn the Ramayana, Mahabharata > and get acquainted of the stories therein before you turn a preacher. > > About your saying whether other astrologers of the forum having same > views about me, I dont care. I have nevr been a hypocritical person and > tried to mainatain a image which i was not. What I am , I appear so > before the public, and do not like facades or masks. If I am abuseive > then so I am, if I use bad language then so do I. Whatever one must do, > he must be good in that, I am confident about my being good in bad > language or whataver and it makes effect where I want it to. It is done > just to bring in the impact desired, and nothing else. > > I have nothing against you personally, I know you write all this for my > own good, so dont take any offence personally please, just as I did not > take it personal. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > , Anurag Arora anuarora60@ > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskarji, > > > > I request u to be more polite in your views about others. I > understand that at least people, who learned properly astrology > and acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not use > second grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is from > your fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ in > writings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the same > view as you have ? > > > > I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum, > but there should be some ethics to be maintained. > > > > I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my query > all these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we are > sharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be. > > > > One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is not > related at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through your > forum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition. If anybody > goes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same, > for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and look > nice.  > > > > > > Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way felt > awkward to you. > > > > God bless you and your forum. > > > > regards > > Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag ) > > > >       > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM > > Re: The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > > > > > > > Latest Development > > The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the member > whom he had given wrong predictions that - > > " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so he > gets a wrong prediction " . > > He also said in his last mail that " Ramans ayanamsha had uptil now > given some right predictions "   which in other words he is > trying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is now > working on the ayanamsha to make it better. > > Ask this rascal what is the meaning of " ayanamsha " and he would not be > able to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it. > Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadows > of the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whom > they can squeeze for money. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Cat is out of the Bag > > > > > > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time great > Jyotish > > > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been > > > maintaining since long about him. > > > > > > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member > > > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after > > > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with the > Raman > > > Clan, confessed that he " is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha " . > I > > > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5 > out > > > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Heads > and > > > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always been > using > > > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the > > > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed > > > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needs > working > > > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis > > > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology. > > > > > > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming on > the > > > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major > > > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversies > and > > > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the > > > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the > > > Moderator. > > > > > > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their > > > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the > > > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of > > > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings which > they > > > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to making > faults > > > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > http://cricket. > --- > > 1)Send your email at >            > > 2)This is the first, and the only Indian Astrology Group being honoured and felicitated by , at the Moderators Union 2008,Mumbai > > 3)View the write up on Jyotish Ganga by india group at > http://www.ygroupsblog.in/blog/2009/03/19/jyotish-ganga-%e2%80%93-stars-\ and-destiny/#comments > > 4)Learners are encouraged to ask and discuss astrological issues as we have experts to answer and quench their thirst of knowledge. > > 5)Experts are encouraged to share their views in the group and hold healthy discussion to help each other achieve a better understanding and help the learners advance in their journey. > > 6)Practitioners may come forward to help those who are in trouble and come here to seek our help. > > 7)The seekers! > Those who connect with us because they are looking for an astrological solution to any problem they are facing in life, are welcome to post their query for our expert astrologers, who will try their best to answer. > > 8)Lastly,The posters must of course maintain the decorum of the forum and send clearly stated queries with their birth details as date, time and place of birth. > > JOIN NOW > /join > > > Regards, > Owner > Krishna Kumar Bagri > (Bhaskar Jyotish - (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna) > (Vedic,Sayana,Nirayana Astrologer, Palmist, Numerologer, Dowser and Vastu Consultant) > Website - www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > Founder -The Indian Astrologers Association, The Society of Indian Astrologers. > email id- rajiventerprises > email id- bhaskar_jyotish > Cell No. 9323522663- 9324214149 Land †" 91-22-24330886 > > Group Moderators: > Sunil Nair > Neelam Gupta > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I got it sir.... Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 4:53:36 AM Re: The Cat is out of the BagDear Anurag Arora,I also request you not to enter these games of Politics which at themoment you are into, writing in JR, VA and JG simultaneously at the sametime. You will just be used as a pawn by the JR Moderator, nothing else,for all his previous victims will vouch this. Do not allow yourself tobe used further by him.best wishes,Bhaskar. , Anurag Arora <anuarora60wrote:>> Respected Bhaskarji,>> I request u to be more polite in your views about others. Iunderstand that at least people, who learned properly astrologyand acquire knowledge enlightened by our great Rishis, should not usesecond grade language and more over in these types of forums. He is fromyour fraternity, and one should respect each other at least on face/ inwritings. Are other Astrologers from your forum also have the sameview as you have ?>> I also understand that he is a moderator of a competitor forum,but there should be some ethics to be maintained.>> I have taken the liberty to write to you because due to my queryall these bouncers have started. This is my friend's id which we areÂsharing for all good reasons. I am not a preacher nor i want to be.>> One more thing, why you are disowning Prashantji when it is notrelated at any way with your JG forum. You want to survive through yourforum, let he also survives ? Have a healthy competition.. If anybodygoes down to a low level of intelligence, why you also taming the same,for a moderator of your high caliber, it does not sound and looknice. Â>>> Sorry in anticipation, for me being vocal and if it any way feltawkward to you.>> God bless you and your forum.>> regards> Anupam ( owner of this id - Anurag )>>      Â>>>>> ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Friday, 19 June, 2009 3:12:02 PM> Re: The Cat is out of the Bag>>>>> Latest Development> The rascal Moderator(CEO) of JR is now trying to explain to the memberwhom he had given wrong predictions that -> " The Karmas of the person enquiring , may not be right enough, so hegets a wrong prediction".> He also said in his last mail that "Ramans ayanamsha had uptil nowgiven some right predictions "  which in other words he istrying ti imply that since only some of them were right he is nowworking on the ayanamsha to make it better.> Ask this rascal what is the meaning of "ayanamsha" and he would not beable to answer you right, and he is talking big of trying to correct it.Such are the dupesters in the field of astrology lurking in the shadowsof the Jyotish Group corridors to catch hold of gullible prospects whomthey can squeeze for money.> Bhaskar.>> , "Bhaskar" bhaskar_jyotish@wrote:> >> >> > The Cat is out of the Bag> >> > In a strange slip of luck, the CEO of the once upon a time greatJyotish> > group JR, but now in tattered ruins, has admitted what I have been> > maintaining since long about him.> >> > In one of his recent postings on the Group inn reply to a member> > smothered with a wrong prediction, this CEO at age of 50 and after> > shouting from the rooftops about his great association with theRaman> > Clan, confessed that he "is still working on the Ramans Ayanamsha".I> > have always been claiming that he does not a bit of astrology and 5out> > of 10 of his predictions may come right by flipping a coin for Headsand> > Tails, is wht his limits are - in Astrology. He had always beenusing> > the Great Astrologer of his times Shri BV Raman as a shield for the> > wrong predictions he was making, and today being caught red-handed> > again, is implying through his mail, that Ramans ayanamsha needsworking> > upon. This is the sordid state of affairs today in the once a Rishis> > Ashram, but now turned into Arena Groups of Astrology.> >> > He was boasting of 900-1000 mails since last 2-3 months, coming onthe> > Group he is moderating . But every old member knows that the major> > portion of this contribution was coming through the controbversiesand> > heat created by him amongs the scapegoats like Shri Vinay Jha the> > software maker, and the astrologers who fell in the trap of the> > Moderator.> >> > I advise all young and budding astrologers, always to accept their> > failures if they wish to progress in this field, and never blame the> > Shastras, Jyotish texts , their Seniors, the Great Astrologers of> > yesteryears or the Modern day, for their own faulty readings whichthey> > make due to being a mortal human being who is subject to makingfaults> > quite understandably as we can never be perfect at alltimes.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >>>>>>>> ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKEThttp://cricket.>---1)Send your email at 2)This is the first, and the only Indian Astrology Group being honoured and felicitated by , at the Moderators Union 2008,Mumbai 3)View the write up on Jyotish Ganga by india group at http://www.ygroupsblog.in/blog/2009/03/19/jyotish-ganga-%e2%80%93-stars-and-destiny/#comments4)Learners are encouraged to ask and discuss astrological issues as we have experts to answer and quench their thirst of knowledge.5)Experts are encouraged to share their views in the group and hold healthy discussion to help each other achieve a better understanding and help the learners advance in their journey.6)Practitioners may come forward to help those who are in trouble and come here to seek our help.7)The seekers!Those who connect with us because they are looking for an astrological solution to any problem they are facing in life, are welcome to post their query for our expert astrologers, who will try their best to answer. 8)Lastly,The posters must of course maintain the decorum of the forum and send clearly stated queries with their birth details as date, time and place of birth. JOIN NOW/joinRegards,Owner Krishna Kumar Bagri(Bhaskar Jyotish - (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna)(Vedic,Sayana,Nirayana Astrologer, Palmist, Numerologer, Dowser and Vastu Consultant)Website - www.shrikrishnajyotish.comFounder -The Indian Astrologers Association, The Society of Indian Astrologers.. email id- rajiventerprises email id- bhaskar_jyotishCell No. 9323522663- 9324214149 Land – 91-22-24330886Group Moderators: Sunil NairNeelam Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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