Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Respected Shri A.V.Pathi Ji, Very good and logical topic, experienced during the last 2 and a half year when the saturn is in the house of moon in natal chart of my wife and 8th from moon in my own chart and give lot of difficult time to both of us. Trust with the change in the house from leo to virgo situation will improve considerably. Trust you will provide us with suitable remedies to overcome such difficult situations in life. Sincerely Ganesh Gulati vedic astrology , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > >  > Saturn’s various special transit effects through Zodiac Houses >  >  > Saturn is the only planet which has the title of ‘Eswara’. >  > The cyclic effect of Sani Paryaya Phala. >  > Any native with full span of life will experience 3 times, the 7 ½ years, at one length of a time, said to be familier with ‘Sade Sati’. The dicum conveys ‘the sense that Sani Bhagavan gives bad results, with an intermittent of 2 ½ years in full cycle of its travel around Zodiac, of approximately 30 years (inclusive of the periods of his ‘retrogression’), being one full round. >  > This means that in a round of Zodiac of Saturn movement, Saturn moves 2.1/2 years in each house of Zodiac. It is said, that Saturn gives GOOD results only when it transits through 3,6, and 11th house from the position of Moon in the Natalchart. When he moves in the rest of the houses, Saturn is said to give BAD effects, graded as moderate, not good, bad and evil. On this rate, when we assume that a man lives for 90 years, he would have experienced 3 rounds of ‘Sade Sati’. In these three rounds, taking 2.1/2 years in the above three houses (house, 3,6 & 11 from Moon position) he is benefited for a period of 7.1/2 years in each cycle of transit to complete the cycle of movement in Zodiac. That is, it is said to be good for 22.1/2 years in all, in a life of 90 years of a person. Conversely a person is said to be in ‘not that good’ period for the rest of periods! >  > I will now explain how intensity of malefic results are distributed during each round: Basics are as follows: > 1. Saturn gives good results while traversing in the 3, 6, or 11th house from the natal position of the Moon; > 2. Moderate bad results while at 5, 9, or 10th house; > 3. “Ardhashatama Sani’, while in 4th House; Considerably bad; > 4. “Kanta Saniâ€, while in 7th House; Sani is more malefic than in 4th house , above said; > 5. “Ashtama Saniâ€, while in 8th House to be more severe in causing effects; > 6. “Sade Satiâ€: While in 12th  House from Moon position, 1st house where moon is positioned in birth chart, and in 2nd house to the Moon occupied House. > Out of the above Janma Sani (1st House where Moon is positioned )is the worst effective period. > When Saturn transits in other houses, the effects will be comparatively tolerable and subject to remedies and other factors in a horoscope, related to the positions of Planets, Drusti, Transit of other Planets on a given day, the transiting house related to Lagna, Desha, Bukti etc.(In Northern India, Ashtama Sani and Ardhashtama Sani is referred as ‘Kalyani’ and ‘Lagu Kalyani’ respectively). >  > Let us get into ‘package’ effects in ‘Sade Sati’ †" 7.1/2 years of Saturn transit: > A ‘Madyamayur Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ two times maximum. > A ‘Alpayush Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ only once. > A ‘Purna Ayush Jathaka’ will have 3 or 4 times of ‘Sade Sati’ in all his life. > The first perio (7.1/2 years) is ‘Mungu Sani’ †" dull Sani; the second period is ‘Pongu Sani’ †" overflowing Sani!; The third full period of Sani is ‘Maraka Sani’ - death inflicting Sani.( For some the fourth round Sani could have this term)If so the third Sani period will be termed as ‘Kungu Sani’ †" the depressing or disappointing period of Sani’s ‘Sade Sati’. >  > Apart from the the above another term is prevalent as ‘Anga Sani’ : Here the 7.1/2 years of ‘Sade Sati’ the travel of Saturn is distributed to various parts of body. During this 90 month period, Saturn is said to pass through various parts of body in continuance At the rate of specific few months through each part of body to cause disturbance, anxiety, serious sickness, aggravated health deterioration etc, related to that part of body. Surgery where Mars involved is not excluded. >  > To be continued………… >  > I request your interest and understanding on above details for me to continue this article. >  > Pathi (16 July 2009) >  >  >  > A.V.Pathi,  > Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, > Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  0044+01522+595996, > (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) > Elec. Money Transfer to: > Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. > also at: kountinya29 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Respected Gurujis  My humble views on this subject are as under. Though I am not well versed in Astrology, as a student of Hinduism and a Tamilian, will give my views as under. ( I say tamilian because a. Sanskrit words have a different meaning in Tamil b. Tamils give lot of imporatnce to Gochara)  1. Sani Having Easwar title: The word Sanaichara ( slow walker) some how got corrupted in Tamil and became Saneeswara. Then stories spurned around Saturn getting the Eswar title. But all Siva Temples of Tamilandu, he is an humble servant of Shiva and a parivara devata.  2. I have seen period the Ashtama Sani is more dangerous than Sade sathi for many. ( Simillarly the Gurus 10th Position affects job status. Especially for Mesha Rasi, when guru in 10th house ie Mahara, where jupiter becomes weak, even if he is exalated in good houses in the horescope will not help)  3. The sade sati is divided into 3 and in sanskrit called as janma, kanda ( middle) and Pada ( end) This Kanda is confused with Tamil Kanadam ( death possibility) and feared.  4. If Saturn is Lagnadipathi, the sade sathi effect is minimum ( can be good also) and ashtama sthan may not be that worse. If he is Rasiadibathi ( chandra lagna lord) again the periods are not that bad.  5. Sani in 7th house from Chandra Rasi can also be considered a good period.  6. The 5th is also bad but some how the sade sathi, ashtama and ardashtama have over taken in the popular belief.  7. Visiting Thirunallaru brings down the effect . ( i have written earlier also. many people misunderstand the Navgraha temples of Tamilnadu. They are Shiva temples and the presiding Shiva ONLY cures. The curse on each planet was cured in each temple by shiva. In Thirunallaru, when Nala entered the temple, saturn could not follow him inside and have to leave him. that is why Thiru Nala Aru. Aru means cooling, curing, Thiru is Sri in tamil.  Hence , Vinayaga,Shiva and Parvathi to be worshipped first and then the saturn. Also one have to take bath in nala theertham before entering the temple. Please go with empty stomach in the morning and not as a picnic. Saturdays are best but the line takes 5 to 6 hours. If not possible other days are also ok, Bath with gingille oil in the tank and offer ghee for Siva and Parvathy's lamps. Gingelee oil was Sani's lamp)  Regards  Sankar      --- On Thu, 7/16/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav Saturn's special transit effects. , askyourastroquery , asthikasamaj , astro_remedies , astroriber , Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies, vedic astrology , brahmin_world, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises, " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm, " Conjeevaram Subramanian " <subsavi2001, delhindu , " DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA " <drprkprasad, gururangan, HARE_RAM , " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405, " Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest >, , , , , " N.S.Parasuraman " <parasu41, , shaneeswara , sheevani147, vighneshare Thursday, July 16, 2009, 2:34 PM   Saturn’s various special transit effects through Zodiac Houses   Saturn is the only planet which has the title of ‘Eswara’.  The cyclic effect of Sani Paryaya Phala.  Any native with full span of life will experience 3 times, the 7 ½ years, at one length of a time, said to be familier with ‘Sade Sati’. The dicum conveys ‘the sense that Sani Bhagavan gives bad results, with an intermittent of 2 ½ years in full cycle of its travel around Zodiac, of approximately 30 years (inclusive of the periods of his ‘retrogression’), being one full round.  This means that in a round of Zodiac of Saturn movement, Saturn moves 2.1/2 years in each house of Zodiac. It is said, that Saturn gives GOOD results only when it transits through 3,6, and 11th house from the position of Moon in the Natalchart. When he moves in the rest of the houses, Saturn is said to give BAD effects, graded as moderate, not good, bad and evil. On this rate, when we assume that a man lives for 90 years, he would have experienced 3 rounds of ‘Sade Sati’. In these three rounds, taking 2.1/2 years in the above three houses (house, 3,6 & 11 from Moon position) he is benefited for a period of 7.1/2 years in each cycle of transit to complete the cycle of movement in Zodiac. That is, it is said to be good for 22.1/2 years in all, in a life of 90 years of a person. Conversely a person is said to be in ‘not that good’ period for the rest of periods!  I will now explain how intensity of malefic results are distributed during each round: Basics are as follows: 1. Saturn gives good results while traversing in the 3, 6, or 11th house from the natal position of the Moon; 2. Moderate bad results while at 5, 9, or 10th house; 3. “Ardhashatama Sani’, while in 4th House; Considerably bad; 4. “Kanta Saniâ€, while in 7th House; Sani is more malefic than in 4th house , above said; 5. “Ashtama Saniâ€, while in 8th House to be more severe in causing effects; 6. “Sade Satiâ€: While in 12th  House from Moon position, 1st house where moon is positioned in birth chart, and in 2nd house to the Moon occupied House. Out of the above Janma Sani (1st House where Moon is positioned )is the worst effective period. When Saturn transits in other houses, the effects will be comparatively tolerable and subject to remedies and other factors in a horoscope, related to the positions of Planets, Drusti, Transit of other Planets on a given day, the transiting house related to Lagna, Desha, Bukti etc.(In Northern India, Ashtama Sani and Ardhashtama Sani is referred as ‘Kalyani’ and ‘Lagu Kalyani’ respectively) .  Let us get into ‘package’ effects in ‘Sade Sati’ – 7.1/2 years of Saturn transit: A ‘Madyamayur Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ two times maximum. A ‘Alpayush Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ only once. A ‘Purna Ayush Jathaka’ will have 3 or 4 times of ‘Sade Sati’ in all his life. The first perio (7.1/2 years) is ‘Mungu Sani’ – dull Sani; the second period is ‘Pongu Sani’ – overflowing Sani!; The third full period of Sani is ‘Maraka Sani’ - death inflicting Sani.( For some the fourth round Sani could have this term)If so the third Sani period will be termed as ‘Kungu Sani’ – the depressing or disappointing period of Sani’s ‘Sade Sati’.  Apart from the the above another term is prevalent as ‘Anga Sani’ : Here the 7.1/2 years of ‘Sade Sati’ the travel of Saturn is distributed to various parts of body. During this 90 month period, Saturn is said to pass through various parts of body in continuance At the rate of specific few months through each part of body to cause disturbance, anxiety, serious sickness, aggravated health deterioration etc, related to that part of body. Surgery where Mars involved is not excluded.  To be continued…………  I request your interest and understanding on above details for me to continue this article.  Pathi (16 July 2009)    A.V.Pathi,  Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingh am, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Elec. Money Transfer to: Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. also at: kountinya29@ gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear Mr. Sankaranarayanan, What is that you want to communicate? All in that 'article' I had written is 'rubbish'? Well! what I understood studying this for last 47 years is waste, and one Mr. Sankaranarayanan, come in to tell us some new facts. Please write/correct and complete my article. Your service is welcome. This is how, people like us feel to keep away from sending these 'articles' in a 'forum' as 'greats' are already there with abundant knowledge!!, with 'long' nose too.  A.V.Pathi,  Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  0044+01522+595996, ________________________________ sankaranarayanan k.s <shankypriyan Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:10:44 AM Re: Saturn's special transit effects.  Respected Gurujis  My humble views on this subject are as under. Though I am not well versed in Astrology, as a student of Hinduism and a Tamilian, will give my views as under. ( I say tamilian because a. Sanskrit words have a different meaning in Tamil b. Tamils give lot of imporatnce to Gochara)  1. Sani Having Easwar title: The word Sanaichara ( slow walker) some how got corrupted in Tamil and became Saneeswara. Then stories spurned around Saturn getting the Eswar title. But all Siva Temples of Tamilandu, he is an humble servant of Shiva and a parivara devata.  2. I have seen period the Ashtama Sani is more dangerous than Sade sathi for many. ( Simillarly the Gurus 10th Position affects job status. Especially for Mesha Rasi, when guru in 10th house ie Mahara, where jupiter becomes weak, even if he is exalated in good houses in the horescope will not help)  3. The sade sati is divided into 3 and in sanskrit called as janma, kanda ( middle) and Pada ( end) This Kanda is confused with Tamil Kanadam ( death possibility) and feared.  4. If Saturn is Lagnadipathi, the sade sathi effect is minimum ( can be good also) and ashtama sthan may not be that worse. If he is Rasiadibathi ( chandra lagna lord) again the periods are not that bad.  5. Sani in 7th house from Chandra Rasi can also be considered a good period.  6. The 5th is also bad but some how the sade sathi, ashtama and ardashtama have over taken in the popular belief.  7. Visiting Thirunallaru brings down the effect . ( i have written earlier also. many people misunderstand the Navgraha temples of Tamilnadu. They are Shiva temples and the presiding Shiva ONLY cures. The curse on each planet was cured in each temple by shiva. In Thirunallaru, when Nala entered the temple, saturn could not follow him inside and have to leave him. that is why Thiru Nala Aru. Aru means cooling, curing, Thiru is Sri in tamil.  Hence , Vinayaga,Shiva and Parvathi to be worshipped first and then the saturn. Also one have to take bath in nala theertham before entering the temple. Please go with empty stomach in the morning and not as a picnic. Saturdays are best but the line takes 5 to 6 hours. If not possible other days are also ok, Bath with gingille oil in the tank and offer ghee for Siva and Parvathy's lamps. Gingelee oil was Sani's lamp)  Regards  Sankar      --- On Thu, 7/16/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Saturn's special transit effects. ancient_indian_ astrology, askyourastroquery@ . com, asthikasamaj, astro_remedies, astroriber@gro ups.com, Chandra-AdityaAstro Remedies@ . co.in, vedic astrology, brahmin_world@ . co.in, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>, " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm (AT) (DOT) co.in>, " Conjeevaram Subramanian " <subsavi2001@ >, delhindu@ s.com, " DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA " <drprkprasad@ hotmail.com>, gururangan (AT) gmail (DOT) com, HARE_RAM@ s.com, " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 >, " Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest >, @ . com, , @ . com, , " N.S.Parasuraman " <parasu41 (AT) grouply (DOT) com>, om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, shaneeswara@ . com, sheevani147@ .co. uk, vighneshare@ .co. in Thursday, July 16, 2009, 2:34 PM   Saturn’s various special transit effects through Zodiac Houses   Saturn is the only planet which has the title of ‘Eswara’.  The cyclic effect of Sani Paryaya Phala.  Any native with full span of life will experience 3 times, the 7 ½ years, at one length of a time, said to be familier with ‘Sade Sati’. The dicum conveys ‘the sense that Sani Bhagavan gives bad results, with an intermittent of 2 ½ years in full cycle of its travel around Zodiac, of approximately 30 years (inclusive of the periods of his ‘retrogression’), being one full round.  This means that in a round of Zodiac of Saturn movement, Saturn moves 2.1/2 years in each house of Zodiac. It is said, that Saturn gives GOOD results only when it transits through 3,6, and 11th house from the position of Moon in the Natalchart. When he moves in the rest of the houses, Saturn is said to give BAD effects, graded as moderate, not good, bad and evil. On this rate, when we assume that a man lives for 90 years, he would have experienced 3 rounds of ‘Sade Sati’. In these three rounds, taking 2.1/2 years in the above three houses (house, 3,6 & 11 from Moon position) he is benefited for a period of 7.1/2 years in each cycle of transit to complete the cycle of movement in Zodiac. That is, it is said to be good for 22.1/2 years in all, in a life of 90 years of a person. Conversely a person is said to be in ‘not that good’ period for the rest of periods!  I will now explain how intensity of malefic results are distributed during each round: Basics are as follows: 1. Saturn gives good results while traversing in the 3, 6, or 11th house from the natal position of the Moon; 2. Moderate bad results while at 5, 9, or 10th house; 3. “Ardhashatama Sani’, while in 4th House; Considerably bad; 4. “Kanta Saniâ€, while in 7th House; Sani is more malefic than in 4th house , above said; 5. “Ashtama Saniâ€, while in 8th House to be more severe in causing effects; 6. “Sade Satiâ€: While in 12th  House from Moon position, 1st house where moon is positioned in birth chart, and in 2nd house to the Moon occupied House. Out of the above Janma Sani (1st House where Moon is positioned )is the worst effective period. When Saturn transits in other houses, the effects will be comparatively tolerable and subject to remedies and other factors in a horoscope, related to the positions of Planets, Drusti, Transit of other Planets on a given day, the transiting house related to Lagna, Desha, Bukti etc.(In Northern India, Ashtama Sani and Ardhashtama Sani is referred as ‘Kalyani’ and ‘Lagu Kalyani’ respectively) .  Let us get into ‘package’ effects in ‘Sade Sati’ – 7.1/2 years of Saturn transit: A ‘Madyamayur Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ two times maximum. A ‘Alpayush Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ only once. A ‘Purna Ayush Jathaka’ will have 3 or 4 times of ‘Sade Sati’ in all his life. The first perio (7.1/2 years) is ‘Mungu Sani’ – dull Sani; the second period is ‘Pongu Sani’ – overflowing Sani!; The third full period of Sani is ‘Maraka Sani’ - death inflicting Sani.( For some the fourth round Sani could have this term)If so the third Sani period will be termed as ‘Kungu Sani’ – the depressing or disappointing period of Sani’s ‘Sade Sati’.  Apart from the the above another term is prevalent as ‘Anga Sani’ : Here the 7.1/2 years of ‘Sade Sati’ the travel of Saturn is distributed to various parts of body. During this 90 month period, Saturn is said to pass through various parts of body in continuance At the rate of specific few months through each part of body to cause disturbance, anxiety, serious sickness, aggravated health deterioration etc, related to that part of body. Surgery where Mars involved is not excluded.  To be continued…………  I request your interest and understanding on above details for me to continue this article.  Pathi (16 July 2009)    A.V.Pathi,  Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingh am, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom .  0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Elec. Money Transfer to: Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. also at: kountinya29@ gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Mr. Gulati, Except regularly praying to Saturn there is no remedy could be suggested by me. I am giving the prayers which you can religiously utter any time in a day immediately after bath. 108 times each in succession: Beej Mantra - Saturn (Shani) Om pram prim praum sah shanaicharaya namah Stotram Neelaanchana Samaabaasam - Raviputhram Yamaagrajam Chaayaa Maarthaanda Sambhootham - Thannamaami Sanaicharam Gayathri Kaaka Dhwajaaya Vidhmahe' - Kadga Hasthaaya Dheemahi Thanno Mandha Pracho Dhayaath - [ Saturn - Sani] A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Elec. Money Transfer to: Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. also at: kountinya29 ________________________________ gulatiganesh <gulatiganesh vedic astrology Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:31:27 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn's special transit effects. Dear Respected Shri A.V.Pathi Ji, Very good and logical topic, experienced during the last 2 and a half year when the saturn is in the house of moon in natal chart of my wife and 8th from moon in my own chart and give lot of difficult time to both of us. Trust with the change in the house from leo to virgo situation will improve considerably. Trust you will provide us with suitable remedies to overcome such difficult situations in life. Sincerely Ganesh Gulati > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Pathiji, Ple......ase continue. It is a seldom understood and dreaded topic. Please be kind enough to explain effect of neecha shani, ucha shani, combust shani.. Retro shani, AK Shani, also during sade sati. Regards< Anita --- On Thu, 16/7/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Saturn's special transit effects. > , askyourastroquery , asthikasamaj , astro_remedies , astroriber , Chandra-AdityaAstroRemedies, vedic astrology , brahmin_world, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises, " brahimn tvm group " <kbstvm, " Conjeevaram Subramanian " <subsavi2001, delhindu , " DR.PRASAD RAMKRISHNA " <drprkprasad, gururangan, HARE_RAM , " Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405, " Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ " <Digest >, , , , , " N.S.Parasuraman " <parasu41, , shaneeswara , sheevani147, vighneshare > Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 9:04 AM > > > >  > Saturn’s various > special transit effects through Zodiac > Houses > > >  > >  > Saturn is the only > planet which has the title of > ‘Eswara’. > >  > The cyclic effect of > Sani Paryaya Phala. > >  > Any > native with full span of life will experience 3 times, the 7 > ½ years, at one length of a time, said to be familier with > ‘Sade Sati’. The dicum > conveys ‘the sense that Sani Bhagavan gives bad results, > with an intermittent of 2 ½ years in full cycle of its > travel around Zodiac, of approximately 30 years (inclusive > of the periods of his ‘retrogression’), being one full > round. >  > This > means that in a round of Zodiac of Saturn movement, Saturn > moves 2.1/2 years in each house of Zodiac. It is said, that > Saturn gives GOOD results only when it transits through 3,6, > and 11th house from the position of Moon in the > Natal chart. When he moves > in the rest of the houses, Saturn is said to give BAD > effects, graded as moderate, not good, bad and evil. On this rate, > when we assume that a man lives for 90 years, he would > have experienced 3 rounds of ‘Sade Sati’. In these three rounds, taking 2.1/2 > years in the above three houses (house, 3,6 & 11 from > Moon position) he is benefited for a period of 7.1/2 years > in each cycle of transit to complete the cycle of movement > in Zodiac. That is, it is said to be good for 22.1/2 years > in all, in a life of 90 years of a person. Conversely a > person is said to be in ‘not that good’ period for the > rest of periods! > >  > I will > now explain how intensity of malefic results are distributed > during each round: Basics are as follows: > > 1. Saturn > gives good results while traversing in the 3, 6, or > 11th house from the natal position of the > Moon; > 2. > Moderate bad results while at 5, 9, or 10th > house; > 3. > “Ardhashatama Sani’, while in 4th House; > Considerably > bad; > 4. > “Kanta Saniâ€, while in 7th House; Sani is > more malefic than in 4th house , above > said; > 5. > “Ashtama Saniâ€, while in 8th House to be more > severe in causing effects; > 6. > “Sade Satiâ€: While in > 12th  House from Moon position, 1st > house where moon is positioned in birth chart, and in > 2nd house to the Moon occupied > House. > Out of > the above Janma Sani (1st House where Moon is > positioned )is the worst effective > period. > When > Saturn transits in other houses, the effects will be > comparatively tolerable and subject to remedies and other > factors in a horoscope, related to the positions of Planets, > Drusti, Transit of other Planets on a given day, the > transiting house related to Lagna, Desha, Bukti etc.(In > Northern India, Ashtama Sani and Ardhashtama Sani is > referred as ‘Kalyani’ and ‘Lagu Kalyani’ > respectively). > >  > Let us > get into ‘package’ effects in ‘Sade Sati’ – 7.1/2 > years of Saturn transit: > A > ‘Madyamayur Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ > two times maximum. > A > ‘Alpayush Jathaka’ person will have ‘Sade Sati’ only > once. > A > ‘Purna Ayush Jathaka’ will have 3 or 4 times of ‘Sade > Sati’ in all his life. > The first > perio (7.1/2 years) is ‘Mungu Sani’ – dull Sani; the > second period is ‘Pongu Sani’ – overflowing Sani!; The > third full period of Sani is ‘Maraka Sani’ - death > inflicting Sani.( For some the fourth round Sani could have > this term)If so the third Sani period will be termed as > ‘Kungu Sani’ – the depressing or disappointing period > of Sani’s ‘Sade Sati’. > >  > Apart > from the the above another term > is prevalent as ‘Anga Sani’ : Here the 7.1/2 > years of ‘Sade Sati’ the travel of Saturn is distributed > to various parts of body. During this 90 month period, > Saturn is said to pass through various parts of body in > continuance At the rate of specific few months through each > part of body to cause disturbance, anxiety, serious > sickness, aggravated health deterioration etc, related to > that part of body. Surgery where > Mars involved is not excluded. > >  > To be > continued………… > >  > I request > your interest and understanding on above details for me to > continue this article. > >  > Pathi > (16 July 2009) > >  > >  > >  > A.V.Pathi,  > Astrologer, 'Oxton > House', 6, Hawthorn > Road,Cherry Willingham, > Lincoln LN3 4JT, > United > Kingdom .  > 0044+01522+595996, > (consultation fees charged for > direct detailed studies) > Elec. 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Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Smt. Anita ji, Thank you. I will continue my article further. Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Anita R <ash.rsh55 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:43:27 AMRe: Saturn's special transit effects. Dear Pathiji, Ple......ase continue. It is a seldom understood and dreaded topic. Please be kind enough to explain effect of neecha shani, ucha shani, combust shani.. Retro shani, AK Shani, also during sade sati.Regards<Anita> > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Pathiji We want your esteemed views on NeechaBanga. Suppose in a horoscope having Libra Ligna Jupiter and Saturn are in 4 in Capricorn ,does Jupiter get complete Neechbanga and with the result Saturn gets weak. Kindly give your views for above Regards Puneet Ahuja recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Pathiji,that's very nice. I forgot to mention "swakshetra shani" when mentioning the various facets of shani. Looking forward to your articles.Regards,Anita--- On Fri, 17/7/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiavRe: Saturn's special transit effects. Date: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 7:48 AM Smt. Anita ji, Thank you. I will continue my article further. Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Anita R <ash.rsh55 >ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, July 17, 2009 6:43:27 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Saturn's special transit effects. Dear Pathiji, Ple......ase continue. It is a seldom understood and dreaded topic. Please be kind enough to explain effect of neecha shani, ucha shani, combust shani.. Retro shani, AK Shani, also during sade sati.Regards<Anita> > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Looking for local information? Find it on Local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Mr. Puneet Ahuja, There are FIVE kinds of Neechabhanga Yogas. 1. The Lord of depression sign sign and the lord of the exalted sign or the Planet that is exalted in that sign is in an Angular (4,7,or 10 house) position from the Lagna or the moon; 2. The lord of the depressions sign and the Lord of the exaltation sign of the depressed Planet are mutually in an angular position; 3. The Planet in depression is in aspect by the lord of that sign; 4. The Lord of the depression sign or the lord of the Exaltation sign of the depressed Planet is in angle from the Lagna or the position of Moon; 5. The Planet in depression is in an Angular position either from Lagna or the position of Moon. The case you presented, Jupiter and Saturn in Makara: and 4th from lagna, falls in catogory the above , under item 3 and 5. While Jupiter is 'removed' of its 'Neecha' status, Saturn continues with its assigned power of Lord of Makara, and will not lose its power. Blessings. A.V.Pathi, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:26:21 AMRe: Saturn's special transit effects. Dear Pathiji We want your esteemed views on NeechaBanga. Suppose in a horoscope having Libra Ligna Jupiter and Saturn are in 4 in Capricorn ,does Jupiter get complete Neechbanga and with the result Saturn gets weak. Kindly give your views for above Regards Puneet Ahuja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Dear Mr. Puneet Ahuja, When I say angular (Trikona) positions, this includes triangle positions also. Sorry I omitted this. A.V.Pathi, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:26:21 AMRe: Saturn's special transit effects. Dear Pathiji We want your esteemed views on NeechaBanga. Suppose in a horoscope having Libra Ligna Jupiter and Saturn are in 4 in Capricorn ,does Jupiter get complete Neechbanga and with the result Saturn gets weak. Kindly give your views for above Regards Puneet Ahuja recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Hariom Mr Pathi Very interesting article. If we were to measure the degrees of diff from Shani to Moon, would that give a more accurate time for the various periods to start and end. Moon may be 3deg Virgo, would Shani's effects on 1st house begin, only when shani enters, Virgo, or when shani is at a distance of +/_15 degrees. or when shani is +/_ 1 pada from Moon location. Can u elaborate? rgds shubha vedic astrology , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Mr. Gulati, > > Except regularly praying to Saturn there is no remedy could be suggested by me. I am giving the prayers which you can religiously utter any time in a day immediately after bath. 108 times each in succession: > > > Beej Mantra - Saturn (Shani) > Om pram prim praum sah shanaicharaya namah > Stotram > Neelaanchana Samaabaasam - Raviputhram Yamaagrajam > Chaayaa Maarthaanda Sambhootham - Thannamaami Sanaicharam > Gayathri > Kaaka Dhwajaaya Vidhmahe' - Kadga Hasthaaya Dheemahi > Thanno Mandha Pracho Dhayaath - [ Saturn - Sani] > A.V.Pathi, > Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, > Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, > (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) > Elec. Money Transfer to: > Canara Bank Ashok Nagar Chennai India SB No: 0975101008227. > also at: kountinya29 > > > > > ________________________________ > gulatiganesh <gulatiganesh > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:31:27 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Saturn's special transit effects. > > > Dear Respected Shri A.V.Pathi Ji, > > Very good and logical topic, experienced during the last 2 and a half year when the saturn is in the house of moon in natal chart of my wife and 8th from moon in my own chart and give lot of difficult time to both of us. > Trust with the change in the house from leo to virgo situation will improve considerably. > Trust you will provide us with suitable remedies to overcome such difficult situations in life. > Sincerely > Ganesh Gulati > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Dear A.V.Pathi Sir, Could you pls predict my near one year future based on my below mentioned details, As I am going through a bad patch of life, My Son is 8 Months old named Sulaxh .He suffred from a intestinal problem called as harnia . Doctor advice us to operation for thid but I think he is too young for operation please tell me what can I do for him for his best future and where I dont know how to tackle the situation, please tell me about his future. Full Name : Sulaxh Pandit Date of Birth : 8th Aug 2008 Time of Birth : 12:59 PM Place of Birth : Bulandshahr, India, Your help in this regards is highly appreciated...... Thanks With Regards Nitin Pandit Please don't print this Email unless you really need to - this will preserve trees on planet earth. SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Shri Nitin Pandit, I will study the chart and come back to you in a day or two. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, Nitin Pandit <npandit52 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:39:20 PM Saturn's special transit effects. Dear A.V.Pathi Sir, Could you pls predict my near one year future based on my below mentioned details,As I am going through a bad patch of life, My Son is 8 Months old named Sulaxh .He suffred from a intestinal problem called as harnia . Doctor advice us to operation for thid but I think he is too young for operation please tell me what can I do for him for his best future and where I dont know how to tackle the situation, please tell me about his future.Full Name : Sulaxh PanditDate of Birth : 8th Aug 2008Time of Birth : 12:59 PMPlace of Birth : Bulandshahr, India, Your help in this regards is highly appreciated. ..... Thanks With RegardsNitin PanditPlease don't print this Email unless you really need to -this will preserve trees on planet earth.SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Dear A.V.Pathi sir please correct the Date of Birth Correct date of birth is 08-Nov.2008 Name Sulaxh Pandit DOB 08-Nov-2008 Birth place---- Bulandshahr India thanks With RegardsNitin PanditPlease don't print this Email unless you really need to -this will preserve trees on planet earth.SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH--- On Wed, 22/7/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiavRe: Saturn's special transit effects. Cc: "Nitin Pandit" <npandit52Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 7:25 PM Shri Nitin Pandit, I will study the chart and come back to you in a day or two. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, Nitin Pandit <npandit52 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:39:20 PM Saturn's special transit effects. Dear A.V.Pathi Sir, Could you pls predict my near one year future based on my below mentioned details,As I am going through a bad patch of life, My Son is 8 Months old named Sulaxh .He suffred from a intestinal problem called as harnia . Doctor advice us to operation for thid but I think he is too young for operation please tell me what can I do for him for his best future and where I dont know how to tackle the situation, please tell me about his future.Full Name : Sulaxh PanditDate of Birth : 8th Aug 2008Time of Birth : 12:59 PMPlace of Birth : Bulandshahr, India, Your help in this regards is highly appreciated. ..... Thanks With RegardsNitin PanditPlease don't print this Email unless you really need to -this will preserve trees on planet earth.SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Dear A.V.Pathi Sir, Could you pls predict my near one year future based on my below mentioned details, As I am going through a bad patch of life, My Son is 8 Months old named Sulaxh .He suffred from a intestinal problem called as harnia . Doctor advice us to operation for thid but I think he is too young for operation please tell me what can I do for him for his best future and where I dont know how to tackle the situation, please tell me about his future. Full Name : Sulaxh Pandit Date of Birth : 8th Nov 2008 Time of Birth : 12:59 PM Place of Birth : Bulandshahr, India, Your help in this regards is highly appreciated...... Thanks With RegardsNitin PanditPlease don't print this Email unless you really need to -this will preserve trees on planet earth.SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Sir, Operation is necessary. He has life to live. So there should not be any problem after operation. Saturn in Leo and Sun Neecha in Libra has to cause sickness in the lower part of stomach and this will have a surgical cure. Mercury, the 6th lord, in Rahu star (Swati) will cause this problem. Operation after 11th august 2009, will be complete cure to his problem. Further consultations will be on charge basis. Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, (consultation fees charged for direct detailed studies) Nitin Pandit <npandit52 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:36:41 PMFw: Re: Saturn's special transit effects. Dear A.V.Pathi sir please correct the Date of Birth Correct date of birth is 08-Nov.2008 Name Sulaxh Pandit DOB 08-Nov-2008 Birth place---- Bulandshahr India thanks With RegardsNitin PanditPlease don't print this Email unless you really need to -this will preserve trees on planet earth.SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH--- On Wed, 22/7/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav >Re: Saturn's special transit effects.Cc: "Nitin Pandit" <npandit52 (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Wednesday, 22 July, 2009, 7:25 PM Shri Nitin Pandit, I will study the chart and come back to you in a day or two. A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, 'Oxton House', 6, Hawthorn Road,Cherry Willingham, Lincoln LN3 4JT, United Kingdom . 0044+01522+595996, Nitin Pandit <npandit52 (AT) ymail (DOT) com>Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:39:20 PM Saturn's special transit effects. Dear A.V.Pathi Sir, Could you pls predict my near one year future based on my below mentioned details,As I am going through a bad patch of life, My Son is 8 Months old named Sulaxh .He suffred from a intestinal problem called as harnia . Doctor advice us to operation for thid but I think he is too young for operation please tell me what can I do for him for his best future and where I dont know how to tackle the situation, please tell me about his future.Full Name : Sulaxh PanditDate of Birth : 8th Aug 2008Time of Birth : 12:59 PMPlace of Birth : Bulandshahr, India, Your help in this regards is highly appreciated. ..... Thanks With RegardsNitin PanditPlease don't print this Email unless you really need to -this will preserve trees on planet earth.SAVE PAPER,SAVE TREES,SAVE EARTH Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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