Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear List, Namaste Anyone wants to volunteer? Thanks. Love, Swee vijaya [vijayamalur] Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:02 AM Swee Chan predictions Sir I would requrest yourself to kindly lookinto my details and predict my future right from the beginning i have been strgulling a lot and even after marriage there is so change and last few month having too much of disturbance in my family life, pls do let me know as to what my future holds good for me, i have a son, i want him to ahve good education, pls do help me sir date of birth - 20-03-1964 time -- 12-30 p.m. place -- krishnagiri (tamilnadu) sex - female sons details date of birth - 31-07-1990 time - 10-57 a.m place - baNGALORE SEX- MALE pls tell me abt his education and future and with regards to me abt my future and happiness in life many thanks to u sir best regards vijaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Bear Mr.Mohan, Pl. take a horary number from your friend asking the question... Let us try to find out... L.Y.Rao. C Mohan <kpxprt Sent: Sunday, 3 June, 2007 8:05:00 PM Predictions Dear Members,details of my friend.HIMDOB: June 6, 1958Time of birth: Unknownplace of birth: Nawan Shahr Doada (Punjab)WIFEDOB: October 4, 1965.Time of birth: 07.54amPlace of Birth; Chandigarh (India)In 2003-4, he had a big loss, businesses lost, property lost. Income Tax department went after him for various implications. His court date is set from October 1-12, 2007. My question, what will happen then? Will he and his wife will win? He is very tight financially, but he is very talented. I am sure he will be rich again.How can we help him? Any suggestions, predictions, without knowing time of births?Those who can help him and his family saved from these circumstances will be looked after favorably in due course. Please help me to help my friend, his wife and his family.Respectfully yours,C. Mohan Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hi When the birth details are not complete in that case only the prashan system is the right way out to find the ans to the question. Since the natives wife details are present but they will only be aplicable if the wife also is involved in the work . Regards Sharon C Mohan <kpxprt wrote: Dear Members,details of my friend.HIMDOB: June 6, 1958Time of birth: Unknownplace of birth: Nawan Shahr Doada (Punjab)WIFEDOB: October 4, 1965.Time of birth: 07.54amPlace of Birth; Chandigarh (India)In 2003-4, he had a big loss, businesses lost, property lost. Income Tax department went after him for various implications. His court date is set from October 1-12, 2007. My question, what will happen then? Will he and his wife will win? He is very tight financially, but he is very talented. I am sure he will be rich again.How can we help him? Any suggestions, predictions, without knowing time of births?Those who can help him and his family saved from these circumstances will be looked after favorably in due course. Please help me to help my friend, his wife and his family.Respectfully yours,C. Mohan Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q&A for great tips from Answers users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Sharon, As per K.P., a wife's chart can be also used to guage/judge/find answers to husband's problems...! Take the VIIth cusp of the wife and analyse... L.Y.Rao. Sharon Liz( askganesha.com) <urs_sharon Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2007 7:48:26 PMRe: Predictions Hi When the birth details are not complete in that case only the prashan system is the right way out to find the ans to the question. Since the natives wife details are present but they will only be aplicable if the wife also is involved in the work . Regards Sharon C Mohan <kpxprt > wrote: Dear Members,details of my friend.HIMDOB: June 6, 1958Time of birth: Unknownplace of birth: Nawan Shahr Doada (Punjab)WIFEDOB: October 4, 1965.Time of birth: 07.54amPlace of Birth; Chandigarh (India)In 2003-4, he had a big loss, businesses lost, property lost. Income Tax department went after him for various implications. His court date is set from October 1-12, 2007. My question, what will happen then? Will he and his wife will win? He is very tight financially, but he is very talented. I am sure he will be rich again.How can we help him? Any suggestions, predictions, without knowing time of births?Those who can help him and his family saved from these circumstances will be looked after favorably in due course. Please help me to help my friend, his wife and his family.Respectfully yours,C. Mohan Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Friend I have tried to study the effects coming transit of jupiter in saggitarius in nov-07 and wrote few pages on it, this is going to be very effective for all of us , pls. have a look on it. http://www.pankajupadhyay.com/articles.html Pankaj Upadhyay, Indore ns_shastree <ns_shastree wrote: Hello Everyone any predictions on 2008 ..how frutiful is it for India ?? Regards Astrological Guidence is free of charge in our yohoo group, For private consultency on any matter would enable me to seek donations for further Research on Jyotish and help on Education and care of Poor Children. For Details visit http://www.pankajupadhyay.com. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Dear Pathi ji, I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl too who want in plain English the message this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too blame lines in both the pursants and querriests prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ venkatachala pathi <pathiav ; Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM Predictions Members: I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given also. God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage many lives, and their families. A.V.Pathi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Dear Mr. Prasant Kumar ji, I do not agree with you.When ever you predict any thing 'good' a 'surface' detail is enough. When you predict some thing like' You are in this trouble and you will not come clear till next two years' etc. is to completely shatter the hope of the person. If it is bad, then an Astrologer must give details for why he says so, so that they go to another Astrologer, if need be, who knows these to clarify and get the truth with the details available. When you say that people are not interested to know the 'details', it is a easy way for an astrologer to clear himself in case of any important negative result happening other than what he said. Your contention is OK when they came for private reading. Not in a public forum, which is for budding Astrologers to learn and those who are with expanded knowledge to find the intrigue methods of reaching the results. Astrologers reading horoscopes in a open forum, MUST say why they reach a particular result while analyzing the chart. Further, lot of fake threatening results are given and 'pariharams' without any reason or rhyme is recommended or a gem stone to be worn by that person to promptly wipe off all his SINS. I do not understand the standard of these 'readings'. Anyway, as 'Moderator', if it is OK by you, why should I voice my opinion? In a short run those who join the forum will understand the standard of Astrologers in that forum. Any personal readings could be, if so, even without explanations. When it is in a forum, the astrologer must give out the reasoning. Then only the ability of the Astrologers will be enhanced. We should prescribe certain standards and should not hide ourselves to say that the blame could be on either side, as you say. We are not marketing a product. We are giving findings on some body's life and it should be done with responsibility, reckonings and authority well substantiated, whether they welcome it or not, for the growth and reputation of the forum. A.V.Pathi, ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:10:43 PM Re: Predictions Dear Pathi ji, I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl too who want in plain English the message this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too blame lines in both the pursants and querriests prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ venkatachala pathi <pathiav > ; Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM Predictions Members: I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given also. God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage many lives, and their families. A.V.Pathi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Dear All, It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are given as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn this into a teachingining exercise! Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the field and eager to make a name for themselves may fall for such lines ;-) Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of fakes and scam artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any other profession, but unfortunately, people who would post their requests all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are pretty much on their own! In fact I feel that way for all internet readings because of the indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat mode -- what is the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at the other end is not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of many individuals and it saddens me. The best way to show one's scholarship and create confidence in people is to devote time in doing research and through your writings etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is serious about it. It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis may not have the time or interest or dedication to do that. To each his own! RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Pathi ji, > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl too who want in plain English the message > > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests > > prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database? method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > venkatachala pathi <pathiav > ; > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM > Predictions > > > Members: > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given also. > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage many lives, > and their families. > > A.V.Pathi, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 All Gurujans and fellow members Namaskar Shri Pathiji have raised a valid point. The moderator should forward answer to a query with a footer showing Jyotish qualification and experience in brief on which basis Seeker could interpret the seriousness of prediction. ajay --- Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > Dear All, > > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where > readings are given > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed > ulterior motive an > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical > details or turn > this into a teachingining exercise! > > Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the > field and eager to > make a name for themselves may fall for such lines > ;-) > > Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of > fakes and scam > artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any > other > profession, but unfortunately, people who would post > their requests > all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are > pretty much on their > own! In fact I feel that way for all internet > readings because of the > indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat > mode -- what is > the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at > the other end is > not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of > many individuals > and it saddens me. > > The best way to show one's scholarship and create > confidence in > people is to devote time in doing research and > through your writings > etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is > serious about it. > It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis > may not have the > time or interest or dedication to do that. > > To each his own! > > RR > > > , Prashant > Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > > Dear Pathi ji, > > > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write > some tech info > in their analysis as both professionals, students r > reading it and > also the need for lay members to know they r not > beeing goofed by > some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the > wide world, > > a min level is required as many r not keen either > to know u can > search such ppl too who want in plain English the > message > > > > this is true of all traditional areas even > marriage how many r > willing to sit thru the entire routine most want > photo appearences in > select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat > phere] the mangala > sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread > ceremony > > > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the > full lenght of a > wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too > > > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests > > > > prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, > Dates will differ > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates > in ur life while > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna > verification > provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the > group either in the > Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations > outside the group or > to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database > section in the group > for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > /database? > method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > venkatachala pathi <pathiav > > ; > > > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM > > Predictions > > > > > > Members: > > > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' > given in this open > forum, without basis or under specific rules > accepted in Hindu > (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such > predictions are given > also. > > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. > I am also not > certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are > allowed to be > posted, which could damage many lives, > > and their families. > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Respected Rohiniranjan ji, > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are given > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn > this into a teaching exercise! Vey well put. This about sums up the feelings of a large number of members here. Regards, Girish Raheja , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear All, > > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are given > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn > this into a teachingining exercise! > > Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the field and eager to > make a name for themselves may fall for such lines ;-) > > Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of fakes and scam > artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any other > profession, but unfortunately, people who would post their requests > all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are pretty much on their > own! In fact I feel that way for all internet readings because of the > indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat mode -- what is > the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at the other end is > not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of many individuals > and it saddens me. > > The best way to show one's scholarship and create confidence in > people is to devote time in doing research and through your writings > etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is serious about it. > It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis may not have the > time or interest or dedication to do that. > > To each his own! > > RR > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pathi ji, > > > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info > in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and > also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by > some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, > > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can > search such ppl too who want in plain English the message > > > > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r > willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in > select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala > sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony > > > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a > wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too > > > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests > > > > prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or > to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group > for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > /database? > method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > venkatachala pathi <pathiav@> > > ; > > > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM > > Predictions > > > > > > Members: > > > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open > forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu > (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given > also. > > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not > certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be > posted, which could damage many lives, > > and their families. > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 In fact I am astounded that some astrologers keep harping on this " technical reasons " band-wagon. Jyotish is pretty straight- forward as technical aspects go despite its windings and turns and variations and anyone who has really spent time studying it for a few years should be able to see clearly why a certain reading was formulated. Obviously, it does not include any rules that are not coming from Parashari or Jaimini jyotish (known to and studied by most of us) and are the products of some secret society or some secret gharana or other tantrik schools or some east-west hybrid system etc. as we have been seeing more and more, thanks to Internet Kalki Awataar! RR , " girish_raheja " <girish_raheja wrote: > > Respected Rohiniranjan ji, > > > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are > given > > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an > > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn > > this into a teaching exercise! > > Vey well put. > > This about sums up the feelings of a large number of members here. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are > given > > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an > > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn > > this into a teachingining exercise! > > > > Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the field and eager to > > make a name for themselves may fall for such lines ;-) > > > > Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of fakes and scam > > artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any other > > profession, but unfortunately, people who would post their requests > > all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are pretty much on > their > > own! In fact I feel that way for all internet readings because of > the > > indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat mode -- what is > > the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at the other end > is > > not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of many > individuals > > and it saddens me. > > > > The best way to show one's scholarship and create confidence in > > people is to devote time in doing research and through your > writings > > etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is serious about > it. > > It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis may not have the > > time or interest or dedication to do that. > > > > To each his own! > > > > RR > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pathi ji, > > > > > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info > > in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and > > also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by > > some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, > > > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can > > search such ppl too who want in plain English the message > > > > > > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r > > willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences > in > > select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala > > sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony > > > > > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of > a > > wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too > > > > > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > differ > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > while > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > > Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group > or > > to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group > > for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > /database? > > method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > venkatachala pathi <pathiav@> > > > ; > > > > > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM > > > Predictions > > > > > > > > > Members: > > > > > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open > > forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu > > (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given > > also. > > > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not > > certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be > > posted, which could damage many lives, > > > and their families. > > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Mr. Pathi, Since you have posted this publicly and not privately to Kumar ji, I feel it is okay to respond without feeling as if I am interveaning in some private exchange! My responses posted using the format {RR: } because I really detest using UPPER CASE which my many many years on internet and following its etiquette is an extreme measure and akin to YELLING! ;-) , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Mr. Prasant Kumar ji, > > I do not agree with you.When ever you predict any thing 'good' a 'surface' detail is enough. When you predict some thing like' You are in this trouble and you will not come clear till next two years' etc. is to completely shatter the hope of the person. If it is bad, then an Astrologer must give details for why he says so, so that they go to another Astrologer, if need be, who knows these to clarify and get the truth with the details available. > {RR: Would this server more the need of other astrologers or the nativity who has no clue about the technicality and has just been scared by *certain* jyotish peddlars about sade sati and mangal dosh and kalsarpa yoga and karanapishachini or something as atrocious! It will just gel the fear more and if a psychopath astrologer was bent on achieving that goal, the technical reasons will just give it more credence, notwithstanding other astrologers jumping in to the rescue! One wonders, why did they wait when they were so eager to help!} > When you say that people are not interested to know the 'details', it is a easy way for an astrologer to clear himself in case of any important negative result happening other than what he said. Your contention is OK when they came for private reading. Not in a public forum, which is for budding Astrologers to learn and those who are with expanded knowledge to find the intrigue methods of reaching the results. > {RR: Pardon me but this is simply inaccurate. No one can learn from messages posted on the internet to any significant extent. Internet messages can serve as valuable training material [i speak from experience] but ONLY as additional material. The way to learn astrology from internet would involve a lot of self-study and then using internet to discuss charts and not in a one-off manner! How often have you seen that happen on the Internet in public fora? Not all, mind you, but many so called *students* that figure they can learn from occasional browsing of postings, something as vast and sacred as Jyotish are better off in the opium dens of some video parlour! Many of us learned jyotish when there was no internet, no chat groups, no easy access to books or journals or teachers. The resolve to become a jyotishi is simply not there! On another forum I challenged a few individuals who posted " Can I become a jyotishi? " type question and am still waiting for them to prove me wrong! When people ask questions such as, " will I attain spiritual success? " OR " Which devata or goddess would benefit me most if I worship them? " I wonder if they are even serious! Are they trying to walk a PATH seriously or are they looking for the best and most profitable STOCK to invest in! So this internet academy DREAM is never going to happen at least not on a public forum!} > Astrologers reading horoscopes in a open forum, MUST say why they reach a particular result while analyzing the chart. {RR: This " MUST " really strikes me as sincere but QUAINT! Ain't gonna happen! Because of the nature of Internet Awataar where no one has the time, neither the reader nor the readee! I am assuming that you have been on internet for a few years now? If not, you will get it sooner or later!} > Further, lot of fake threatening results are given and 'pariharams' without any reason or rhyme is recommended or a gem stone to be worn by that person to promptly wipe off all his SINS. I do not understand the standard of these 'readings'. Anyway, as 'Moderator', if it is OK by you, why should I voice my opinion? In a short run those who join the forum will understand the standard of Astrologers in that forum. Any personal readings could be, if so, even without explanations. When it is in a forum, the astrologer must give out the reasoning. Then only the ability of the Astrologers will be enhanced. We should prescribe certain standards and should not hide ourselves to say that the blame could be on either side, as you say. We are not marketing a product. We are giving findings on some body's life and it should be > done with responsibility, reckonings and authority well substantiated, whether they welcome it or not, for the growth and reputation of the forum. {RR: I agree with the sensitivity and sensibility part but I disagree that there have been too many instances of KARMA THREATS and 'if you don't do this your life will be hell' kind of threats! This is just plain and simple " fear mongering on your part " and I invite you to provide evidence that you are not just imagining things! :-) For someone who began expressing very recently, just a few months earlier, September or so, to have such a negative view of this forum is simply unacceptable! Maybe you were posting with another id before! ;-} > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > ________________________________ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:10:43 PM > Re: Predictions > > > Dear Pathi ji, > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl too who want in plain English the message > > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests > > prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > venkatachala pathi <pathiav > > ; @ . com > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM > Predictions > > Members: > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given also. > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage many lives, > and their families. > > A.V.Pathi, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan and others, Please close this matter for heaven sake. I apologize to all for having brought this matter. I am in the forums for past 15 years if not more. I am tired of reading on this in my old age. I am an astrologer for over 46 years and now 79. Please stop further mails on this and leave me alone. Regards. A.V.Pathi, ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Friday, December 12, 2008 8:00:16 PM Re: Predictions Mr. Pathi, Since you have posted this publicly and not privately to Kumar ji, I feel it is okay to respond without feeling as if I am interveaning in some private exchange! My responses posted using the format {RR: } because I really detest using UPPER CASE which my many many years on internet and following its etiquette is an extreme measure and akin to YELLING! ;-) , venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: > > Dear Mr. Prasant Kumar ji, > > I do not agree with you.When ever you predict any thing 'good' a 'surface' detail is enough. When you predict some thing like' You are in this trouble and you will not come clear till next two years' etc. is to completely shatter the hope of the person. If it is bad, then an Astrologer must give details for why he says so, so that they go to another Astrologer, if need be, who knows these to clarify and get the truth with the details available. > {RR: Would this server more the need of other astrologers or the nativity who has no clue about the technicality and has just been scared by *certain* jyotish peddlars about sade sati and mangal dosh and kalsarpa yoga and karanapishachini or something as atrocious! It will just gel the fear more and if a psychopath astrologer was bent on achieving that goal, the technical reasons will just give it more credence, notwithstanding other astrologers jumping in to the rescue! One wonders, why did they wait when they were so eager to help!} > When you say that people are not interested to know the 'details', it is a easy way for an astrologer to clear himself in case of any important negative result happening other than what he said. Your contention is OK when they came for private reading. Not in a public forum, which is for budding Astrologers to learn and those who are with expanded knowledge to find the intrigue methods of reaching the results. > {RR: Pardon me but this is simply inaccurate. No one can learn from messages posted on the internet to any significant extent. Internet messages can serve as valuable training material [i speak from experience] but ONLY as additional material. The way to learn astrology from internet would involve a lot of self-study and then using internet to discuss charts and not in a one-off manner! How often have you seen that happen on the Internet in public fora? Not all, mind you, but many so called *students* that figure they can learn from occasional browsing of postings, something as vast and sacred as Jyotish are better off in the opium dens of some video parlour! Many of us learned jyotish when there was no internet, no chat groups, no easy access to books or journals or teachers. The resolve to become a jyotishi is simply not there! On another forum I challenged a few individuals who posted " Can I become a jyotishi? " type question and am still waiting for them to prove me wrong! When people ask questions such as, " will I attain spiritual success? " OR " Which devata or goddess would benefit me most if I worship them? " I wonder if they are even serious! Are they trying to walk a PATH seriously or are they looking for the best and most profitable STOCK to invest in! So this internet academy DREAM is never going to happen at least not on a public forum!} > Astrologers reading horoscopes in a open forum, MUST say why they reach a particular result while analyzing the chart. {RR: This " MUST " really strikes me as sincere but QUAINT! Ain't gonna happen! Because of the nature of Internet Awataar where no one has the time, neither the reader nor the readee! I am assuming that you have been on internet for a few years now? If not, you will get it sooner or later!} > Further, lot of fake threatening results are given and 'pariharams' without any reason or rhyme is recommended or a gem stone to be worn by that person to promptly wipe off all his SINS. I do not understand the standard of these 'readings' . Anyway, as 'Moderator', if it is OK by you, why should I voice my opinion? In a short run those who join the forum will understand the standard of Astrologers in that forum. Any personal readings could be, if so, even without explanations. When it is in a forum, the astrologer must give out the reasoning. Then only the ability of the Astrologers will be enhanced. We should prescribe certain standards and should not hide ourselves to say that the blame could be on either side, as you say. We are not marketing a product. We are giving findings on some body's life and it should be > done with responsibility, reckonings and authority well substantiated, whether they welcome it or not, for the growth and reputation of the forum. {RR: I agree with the sensitivity and sensibility part but I disagree that there have been too many instances of KARMA THREATS and 'if you don't do this your life will be hell' kind of threats! This is just plain and simple " fear mongering on your part " and I invite you to provide evidence that you are not just imagining things! :-) For someone who began expressing very recently, just a few months earlier, September or so, to have such a negative view of this forum is simply unacceptable! Maybe you were posting with another id before! ;-} > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> > > Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:10:43 PM > Re: Predictions > > > Dear Pathi ji, > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world, > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl too who want in plain English the message > > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests > > prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > venkatachala pathi <pathiav > > ; @ . com > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM > Predictions > > Members: > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given also. > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage many lives, > and their families. > > A.V.Pathi, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 laalkitab , palak_hottest2004 <no_reply wrote: > > hello sir > my name is palak j patel. i m a virgorian. and my date of birth is > 15-12-1987. time 11:20 am. can u tell me about my future profession or > anything which u would like to tell about my future. some thing bad or > good > thankyou >god bless udidt say place of birth after that i can say, as per me bu numrology i am sure u r very comited person , every satarday give 2rs to any begger god bless krishna mishra 9826070286 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hi, My DOB 09/02/1979 Time: 7.20 am Place Ahmedabad - Gujarat - India Please send me your predictions about marriage & career i am in stocks right now, will i do good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.