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Jaya Jagannatha

 

Dear List,

Namaste

 

Anyone wants

to volunteer? Thanks.

 

Love,

Swee

 

 

 

 

 

vijaya

[vijayamalur]

Tuesday, September 13, 2005

11:02 AM

Swee Chan

predictions

 

 

 

 

 

Sir

 

 

 

 

 

I would requrest yourself to kindly lookinto my details and

predict my future

 

 

right from the beginning i have been strgulling a lot and

even after marriage there is so change and last few month having too much of

disturbance in my family life, pls do let me know as to what my future holds

good for me, i have a son, i want him to ahve good education, pls do help me

sir

 

 

date of birth - 20-03-1964

 

 

time -- 12-30 p.m.

 

 

place -- krishnagiri (tamilnadu)

 

 

sex - female

 

 

 

 

 

sons details

 

 

 

 

 

date of birth - 31-07-1990

 

 

time - 10-57 a.m

 

 

place - baNGALORE

 

 

SEX- MALE

 

 

 

 

 

pls tell me abt his education and future

 

 

 

 

 

and with regards to me abt my future and happiness in life

 

 

 

 

 

many thanks to u sir

 

 

 

 

 

best regards

 

 

 

 

 

vijaya

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Bear Mr.Mohan,

Pl. take a horary number from your friend asking the question...

Let us try to find out...

L.Y.Rao.

C Mohan <kpxprt Sent: Sunday, 3 June, 2007 8:05:00 PM Predictions

 

Dear Members,details of my friend.HIMDOB: June 6, 1958Time of birth: Unknownplace of birth: Nawan Shahr Doada (Punjab)WIFEDOB: October 4, 1965.Time of birth: 07.54amPlace of Birth; Chandigarh (India)In 2003-4, he had a big loss, businesses lost, property lost. Income Tax department went after him for various implications. His court date is set from October 1-12, 2007. My question, what will happen then? Will he and his wife will win? He is very tight financially, but he is very talented. I am sure he will be rich again.How can we help him? Any

suggestions, predictions, without knowing time of births?Those who can help him and his family saved from these circumstances will be looked after favorably in due course. Please help me to help my friend, his wife and his family.Respectfully yours,C. Mohan

 

 

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Hi When the birth details are not complete in that case only the prashan system is the right way out to find the ans to the question. Since the natives wife details are present but they will only be aplicable if the wife also is involved in the work . Regards Sharon C Mohan <kpxprt wrote: Dear Members,details of my friend.HIMDOB: June 6, 1958Time of birth: Unknownplace of birth: Nawan Shahr Doada (Punjab)WIFEDOB: October 4, 1965.Time of birth: 07.54amPlace of Birth; Chandigarh (India)In 2003-4, he had a big loss, businesses lost, property lost. Income Tax department went after him for various implications. His court date is set from October 1-12, 2007. My question, what will happen then? Will he and his wife will win? He is very tight financially, but he is very talented. I am sure he will be rich again.How can we help him? Any suggestions, predictions, without knowing time of births?Those who can help him and his family saved from these

circumstances will be looked after favorably in due course. Please help me to help my friend, his wife and his family.Respectfully yours,C. Mohan Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase.

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Dear Sharon,

As per K.P., a wife's chart can be also used to guage/judge/find answers to husband's problems...!

Take the VIIth cusp of the wife and analyse...

L.Y.Rao.

Sharon Liz( askganesha.com) <urs_sharon Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2007 7:48:26 PMRe: Predictions

 

 

Hi

When the birth details are not complete in that case only the prashan system is the right way out to find the ans to the question.

Since the natives wife details are present but they will only be aplicable if the wife also is involved in the work .

Regards

 

Sharon

C Mohan <kpxprt > wrote:

 

 

Dear Members,details of my friend.HIMDOB: June 6, 1958Time of birth: Unknownplace of birth: Nawan Shahr Doada (Punjab)WIFEDOB: October 4, 1965.Time of birth: 07.54amPlace of Birth; Chandigarh (India)In 2003-4, he had a big loss, businesses lost, property lost. Income Tax department went after him for various implications. His court date is set from October 1-12, 2007. My question, what will happen then? Will he and his wife will win? He is very tight financially, but he is very talented. I am sure he will be rich again.How can we help him? Any

suggestions, predictions, without knowing time of births?Those who can help him and his family saved from these circumstances will be looked after favorably in due course. Please help me to help my friend, his wife and his family.Respectfully yours,C. Mohan

 

 

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I have tried to study the effects coming transit of jupiter in saggitarius in

nov-07 and wrote few pages on it, this is going to be very effective for all of

us , pls. have a look on it.

 

http://www.pankajupadhyay.com/articles.html

 

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any predictions on 2008 ..how frutiful is it for India ??

 

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Astrological Guidence is free of charge in our yohoo group, For private

consultency on any matter would enable me to seek donations for further Research

on Jyotish and help on Education and care of Poor Children. For Details visit

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Dear Pathi ji,

 

I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their

analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay

members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone

anywhere in the wide world,

a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl

too who want in plain English the message

 

this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit

thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes

say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the

thread ceremony

 

many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r

the longevity of such marriages too

 

blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

 

prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

;

Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

Predictions

 

 

Members:

 

I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without

basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No

explanations for such predictions are given also.

God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that

'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage

many lives,

and their families.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

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Dear Mr. Prasant Kumar ji,

 

I do not agree with you.When ever you predict any thing 'good' a 'surface'

detail is enough.  When you predict some thing like' You are in this trouble and

you will not come clear till next two years' etc. is to completely shatter the

hope of the person.  If it is bad, then an Astrologer must give details for why

he says so, so that they go to another Astrologer, if need be, who knows these

to clarify and get the truth with the details available.

 

When you say that people are not interested to know the 'details', it is a easy

way for an astrologer to clear himself in case of any important negative result

happening other than what he said.  Your contention is OK when they came for

private reading.  Not in a public forum, which is for budding Astrologers to

learn and those who are with expanded knowledge to find the intrigue methods of

reaching the results.

 

Astrologers reading horoscopes in a open forum, MUST say why they reach a

particular result while analyzing the chart.  Further, lot of fake

threatening results are given and 'pariharams' without any reason or rhyme is

recommended or a gem stone to be worn by that person to promptly wipe off all

his SINS.  I do not understand the standard of these 'readings'.  Anyway, as

'Moderator', if it is OK by you, why should I voice my opinion? In a short run

those who join the forum will understand the standard of Astrologers in that

forum. Any personal readings could be, if so, even without explanations.  When

it is in a forum, the astrologer must give out the reasoning.  Then only

the ability of the Astrologers will be enhanced.  We should prescribe certain

standards and should not hide ourselves to say that the blame could be on either

side, as you say.  We are not marketing a product.  We are giving findings on

some body's life and it should be

done with responsibility, reckonings and authority well substantiated, whether

they welcome it or not, for the growth and reputation of the forum.

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:10:43 PM

Re: Predictions

 

 

Dear Pathi ji,

 

I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info in their

analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and also the need for lay

members to know they r not beeing goofed by some jargon if they meet someone

anywhere in the wide world,

a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can search such ppl

too who want in plain English the message

 

this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r willing to sit

thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in select traditional scenes

say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the

thread ceremony

 

many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a wedding so r

the longevity of such marriages too

 

blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

 

prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

;

Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

Predictions

 

Members:

 

I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open forum, without

basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu (Vedic) Astrology. No

explanations for such predictions are given also.

God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not certain that

'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be posted, which could damage

many lives,

and their families.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

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Dear All,

 

It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are given

as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an

astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn

this into a teachingining exercise!

 

Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the field and eager to

make a name for themselves may fall for such lines ;-)

 

Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of fakes and scam

artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any other

profession, but unfortunately, people who would post their requests

all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are pretty much on their

own! In fact I feel that way for all internet readings because of the

indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat mode -- what is

the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at the other end is

not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of many individuals

and it saddens me.

 

The best way to show one's scholarship and create confidence in

people is to devote time in doing research and through your writings

etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is serious about it.

It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis may not have the

time or interest or dedication to do that.

 

To each his own!

 

RR

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Pathi ji,

>

> I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info

in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and

also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by

some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world,

> a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can

search such ppl too who want in plain English the message

>

> this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r

willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in

select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala

sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony

>

> many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a

wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too

>

> blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

>

> prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> /database?

method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> venkatachala pathi <pathiav

> ;

 

> Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

> Predictions

>

>

> Members:

>

> I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open

forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu

(Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given

also.

> God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not

certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be

posted, which could damage many lives,

> and their families.

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

>

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All Gurujans and fellow members

Namaskar

 

Shri Pathiji have raised a valid point. The moderator

should forward answer to a query with a footer showing

Jyotish qualification and experience in brief on which

basis Seeker could interpret the seriousness of

prediction.

 

ajay

--- Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

> Dear All,

>

> It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where

> readings are given

> as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed

> ulterior motive an

> astrologer would feel the need to go into technical

> details or turn

> this into a teachingining exercise!

>

> Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the

> field and eager to

> make a name for themselves may fall for such lines

> ;-)

>

> Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of

> fakes and scam

> artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any

> other

> profession, but unfortunately, people who would post

> their requests

> all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are

> pretty much on their

> own! In fact I feel that way for all internet

> readings because of the

> indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat

> mode -- what is

> the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at

> the other end is

> not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of

> many individuals

> and it saddens me.

>

> The best way to show one's scholarship and create

> confidence in

> people is to devote time in doing research and

> through your writings

> etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is

> serious about it.

> It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis

> may not have the

> time or interest or dedication to do that.

>

> To each his own!

>

> RR

>

>

> , Prashant

> Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pathi ji,

> >

> > I have tried myself to requesting members to write

> some tech info

> in their analysis as both professionals, students r

> reading it and

> also the need for lay members to know they r not

> beeing goofed by

> some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the

> wide world,

> > a min level is required as many r not keen either

> to know u can

> search such ppl too who want in plain English the

> message

> >

> > this is true of all traditional areas even

> marriage how many r

> willing to sit thru the entire routine most want

> photo appearences in

> select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat

> phere] the mangala

> sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread

> ceremony

> >

> > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the

> full lenght of a

> wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too

> >

> > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas,

> Dates will differ

> from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates

> in ur life while

> posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> verification

> provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

> group either in the

> Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> outside the group or

> to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database

> section in the group

> for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

>

/database?

> method=reportRows & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > venkatachala pathi <pathiav

> > ;

>

> > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

> > Predictions

> >

> >

> > Members:

> >

> > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions'

> given in this open

> forum, without basis or under specific rules

> accepted in Hindu

> (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such

> predictions are given

> also.

> > God only have to save all, including Astrologers.

> I am also not

> certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are

> allowed to be

> posted, which could damage many lives,

> > and their families.

> >

> > A.V.Pathi,

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

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Respected Rohiniranjan ji,

 

> It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are

given

> as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an

> astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn

> this into a teaching exercise!

 

Vey well put.

 

This about sums up the feelings of a large number of members here.

 

Regards,

 

Girish Raheja

 

 

 

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are

given

> as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an

> astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or turn

> this into a teachingining exercise!

>

> Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the field and eager to

> make a name for themselves may fall for such lines ;-)

>

> Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of fakes and scam

> artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any other

> profession, but unfortunately, people who would post their requests

> all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are pretty much on

their

> own! In fact I feel that way for all internet readings because of

the

> indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat mode -- what is

> the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at the other end

is

> not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of many

individuals

> and it saddens me.

>

> The best way to show one's scholarship and create confidence in

> people is to devote time in doing research and through your

writings

> etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is serious about

it.

> It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis may not have the

> time or interest or dedication to do that.

>

> To each his own!

>

> RR

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pathi ji,

> >

> > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info

> in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and

> also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by

> some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world,

> > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can

> search such ppl too who want in plain English the message

> >

> > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r

> willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences

in

> select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala

> sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony

> >

> > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of

a

> wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too

> >

> > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life

while

> posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

> provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

> Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group

or

> to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

> for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > /database?

> method=reportRows & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > venkatachala pathi <pathiav@>

> > ;

>

> > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

> > Predictions

> >

> >

> > Members:

> >

> > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open

> forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu

> (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given

> also.

> > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not

> certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be

> posted, which could damage many lives,

> > and their families.

> >

> > A.V.Pathi,

> >

> >

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In fact I am astounded that some astrologers keep harping on

this " technical reasons " band-wagon. Jyotish is pretty straight-

forward as technical aspects go despite its windings and turns and

variations and anyone who has really spent time studying it for a few

years should be able to see clearly why a certain reading was

formulated. Obviously, it does not include any rules that are not

coming from Parashari or Jaimini jyotish (known to and studied by

most of us) and are the products of some secret society or some

secret gharana or other tantrik schools or some east-west hybrid

system etc. as we have been seeing more and more, thanks to Internet

Kalki Awataar!

 

RR

 

 

, " girish_raheja "

<girish_raheja wrote:

>

> Respected Rohiniranjan ji,

>

> > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are

> given

> > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an

> > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or

turn

> > this into a teaching exercise!

>

> Vey well put.

>

> This about sums up the feelings of a large number of members here.

>

> Regards,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > It is absurd to expect that on a free forum where readings are

> given

> > as a gift, if not charity, with no expressed ulterior motive an

> > astrologer would feel the need to go into technical details or

turn

> > this into a teachingining exercise!

> >

> > Maybe some of the people jumping newly into the field and eager

to

> > make a name for themselves may fall for such lines ;-)

> >

> > Please understand that I am not at all tolerant of fakes and scam

> > artists which Jyotish has its fair share, as too any other

> > profession, but unfortunately, people who would post their

requests

> > all over the place, sometimes in triplicate are pretty much on

> their

> > own! In fact I feel that way for all internet readings because of

> the

> > indirect nature of it. Even those who work in chat mode -- what

is

> > the guarantee that the venerable sounding person at the other end

> is

> > not a scam artist? I hear the horror experiences of many

> individuals

> > and it saddens me.

> >

> > The best way to show one's scholarship and create confidence in

> > people is to devote time in doing research and through your

> writings

> > etc provide evidence that one knows jyotish and is serious about

> it.

> > It is not an overnight process and many jyotishis may not have

the

> > time or interest or dedication to do that.

> >

> > To each his own!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pathi ji,

> > >

> > > I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech

info

> > in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it

and

> > also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by

> > some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world,

> > > a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can

> > search such ppl too who want in plain English the message

> > >

> > > this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r

> > willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo

appearences

> in

> > select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala

> > sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony

> > >

> > > many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght

of

> a

> > wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too

> > >

> > > blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

> differ

> > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life

> while

> > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

> > provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in

the

> > Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group

> or

> > to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the

group

> > for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > /database?

> > method=reportRows & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > venkatachala pathi <pathiav@>

> > > ;

> >

> > > Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

> > > Predictions

> > >

> > >

> > > Members:

> > >

> > > I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this

open

> > forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu

> > (Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given

> > also.

> > > God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also

not

> > certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be

> > posted, which could damage many lives,

> > > and their families.

> > >

> > > A.V.Pathi,

> > >

> > >

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Mr. Pathi,

 

Since you have posted this publicly and not privately to Kumar ji, I

feel it is okay to respond without feeling as if I am interveaning in

some private exchange! My responses posted using the format {RR: }

because I really detest using UPPER CASE which my many many years on

internet and following its etiquette is an extreme measure and akin

to YELLING! ;-)

 

, venkatachala pathi

<pathiav wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Prasant Kumar ji,

>

> I do not agree with you.When ever you predict any thing 'good'

a 'surface' detail is enough.  When you predict some thing like' You

are in this trouble and you will not come clear till next two years'

etc. is to completely shatter the hope of the person.  If it is bad,

then an Astrologer must give details for why he says so, so that they

go to another Astrologer, if need be, who knows these to clarify

and get the truth with the details available.

>

 

{RR: Would this server more the need of other astrologers or the

nativity who has no clue about the technicality and has just been

scared by *certain* jyotish peddlars about sade sati and mangal dosh

and kalsarpa yoga and karanapishachini or something as atrocious! It

will just gel the fear more and if a psychopath astrologer was bent

on achieving that goal, the technical reasons will just give it more

credence, notwithstanding other astrologers jumping in to the rescue!

One wonders, why did they wait when they were so eager to help!}

 

> When you say that people are not interested to know the 'details',

it is a easy way for an astrologer to clear himself in case of any

important negative result happening other than what he said.  Your

contention is OK when they came for private reading.  Not in a public

forum, which is for budding Astrologers to learn and those who are

with expanded knowledge to find the intrigue methods of reaching the

results.

>

{RR: Pardon me but this is simply inaccurate. No one can learn from

messages posted on the internet to any significant extent. Internet

messages can serve as valuable training material [i speak from

experience] but ONLY as additional material. The way to learn

astrology from internet would involve a lot of self-study and then

using internet to discuss charts and not in a one-off manner! How

often have you seen that happen on the Internet in public fora? Not

all, mind you, but many so called *students* that figure they can

learn from occasional browsing of postings, something as vast and

sacred as Jyotish are better off in the opium dens of some video

parlour! Many of us learned jyotish when there was no internet, no

chat groups, no easy access to books or journals or teachers. The

resolve to become a jyotishi is simply not there! On another forum I

challenged a few individuals who posted " Can I become a jyotishi? "

type question and am still waiting for them to prove me wrong! When

people ask questions such as, " will I attain spiritual success? "

OR " Which devata or goddess would benefit me most if I worship them? "

I wonder if they are even serious! Are they trying to walk a PATH

seriously or are they looking for the best and most profitable STOCK

to invest in! So this internet academy DREAM is never going to happen

at least not on a public forum!}

 

> Astrologers reading horoscopes in a open forum, MUST say why they

reach a particular result while analyzing the chart. 

 

{RR: This " MUST " really strikes me as sincere but QUAINT! Ain't gonna

happen! Because of the nature of Internet Awataar where no one has

the time, neither the reader nor the readee! I am assuming that you

have been on internet for a few years now? If not, you will get it

sooner or later!}

 

> Further, lot of fake threatening results are given and 'pariharams'

without any reason or rhyme is recommended or a gem stone to be worn

by that person to promptly wipe off all his SINS.  I do not

understand the standard of these 'readings'.  Anyway, as 'Moderator',

if it is OK by you, why should I voice my opinion? In a short run

those who join the forum will understand the standard of Astrologers

in that forum. Any personal readings could be, if so, even without

explanations.  When it is in a forum, the astrologer must give out

the reasoning.  Then only the ability of the Astrologers will be

enhanced.  We should prescribe certain standards and should not hide

ourselves to say that the blame could be on either side, as you say. 

We are not marketing a product.  We are giving findings on some

body's life and it should be

> done with responsibility, reckonings and authority well

substantiated, whether they welcome it or not, for the growth and

reputation of the forum.

 

{RR: I agree with the sensitivity and sensibility part but I disagree

that there have been too many instances of KARMA THREATS and 'if you

don't do this your life will be hell' kind of threats! This is just

plain and simple " fear mongering on your part " and I invite you to

provide evidence that you are not just imagining things! :-) For

someone who began expressing very recently, just a few months

earlier, September or so, to have such a negative view of this forum

is simply unacceptable! Maybe you were posting with another id

before! ;-}

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

>

> Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:10:43 PM

> Re: Predictions

>

>

> Dear Pathi ji,

>

> I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info

in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and

also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by

some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world,

> a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can

search such ppl too who want in plain English the message

>

> this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r

willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in

select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala

sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony

>

> many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a

wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too

>

> blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

>

> prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

> ; @

. com

> Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

> Predictions

>

> Members:

>

> I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open

forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu

(Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given

also.

> God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not

certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be

posted, which could damage many lives,

> and their families.

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

>

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Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan and others,

 

Please close this matter for heaven sake.  I apologize to all for having brought

this matter.  I am in the forums for past 15 years if not more. I am tired of

reading on this in my old age. I am an astrologer for over 46 years and now 79. 

Please stop further mails on this and leave me alone.

 

Regards.

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Friday, December 12, 2008 8:00:16 PM

Re: Predictions

 

 

Mr. Pathi,

 

Since you have posted this publicly and not privately to Kumar ji, I

feel it is okay to respond without feeling as if I am interveaning in

some private exchange! My responses posted using the format {RR: }

because I really detest using UPPER CASE which my many many years on

internet and following its etiquette is an extreme measure and akin

to YELLING! ;-)

 

, venkatachala pathi

<pathiav > wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Prasant Kumar ji,

>

> I do not agree with you.When ever you predict any thing 'good'

a 'surface' detail is enough.  When you predict some thing like' You

are in this trouble and you will not come clear till next two years'

etc. is to completely shatter the hope of the person.  If it is bad,

then an Astrologer must give details for why he says so, so that they

go to another Astrologer, if need be, who knows these to clarify

and get the truth with the details available.

>

 

{RR: Would this server more the need of other astrologers or the

nativity who has no clue about the technicality and has just been

scared by *certain* jyotish peddlars about sade sati and mangal dosh

and kalsarpa yoga and karanapishachini or something as atrocious! It

will just gel the fear more and if a psychopath astrologer was bent

on achieving that goal, the technical reasons will just give it more

credence, notwithstanding other astrologers jumping in to the rescue!

One wonders, why did they wait when they were so eager to help!}

 

> When you say that people are not interested to know the 'details',

it is a easy way for an astrologer to clear himself in case of any

important negative result happening other than what he said.  Your

contention is OK when they came for private reading.  Not in a public

forum, which is for budding Astrologers to learn and those who are

with expanded knowledge to find the intrigue methods of reaching the

results.

>

{RR: Pardon me but this is simply inaccurate. No one can learn from

messages posted on the internet to any significant extent. Internet

messages can serve as valuable training material [i speak from

experience] but ONLY as additional material. The way to learn

astrology from internet would involve a lot of self-study and then

using internet to discuss charts and not in a one-off manner! How

often have you seen that happen on the Internet in public fora? Not

all, mind you, but many so called *students* that figure they can

learn from occasional browsing of postings, something as vast and

sacred as Jyotish are better off in the opium dens of some video

parlour! Many of us learned jyotish when there was no internet, no

chat groups, no easy access to books or journals or teachers. The

resolve to become a jyotishi is simply not there! On another forum I

challenged a few individuals who posted " Can I become a jyotishi? "

type question and am still waiting for them to prove me wrong! When

people ask questions such as, " will I attain spiritual success? "

OR " Which devata or goddess would benefit me most if I worship them? "

I wonder if they are even serious! Are they trying to walk a PATH

seriously or are they looking for the best and most profitable STOCK

to invest in! So this internet academy DREAM is never going to happen

at least not on a public forum!}

 

> Astrologers reading horoscopes in a open forum, MUST say why they

reach a particular result while analyzing the chart. 

 

{RR: This " MUST " really strikes me as sincere but QUAINT! Ain't gonna

happen! Because of the nature of Internet Awataar where no one has

the time, neither the reader nor the readee! I am assuming that you

have been on internet for a few years now? If not, you will get it

sooner or later!}

 

> Further, lot of fake threatening results are given and 'pariharams'

without any reason or rhyme is recommended or a gem stone to be worn

by that person to promptly wipe off all his SINS.  I do not

understand the standard of these 'readings' .  Anyway, as 'Moderator',

if it is OK by you, why should I voice my opinion? In a short run

those who join the forum will understand the standard of Astrologers

in that forum. Any personal readings could be, if so, even without

explanations.  When it is in a forum, the astrologer must give out

the reasoning.  Then only the ability of the Astrologers will be

enhanced.  We should prescribe certain standards and should not hide

ourselves to say that the blame could be on either side, as you say. 

We are not marketing a product.  We are giving findings on some

body's life and it should be

> done with responsibility, reckonings and authority well

substantiated, whether they welcome it or not, for the growth and

reputation of the forum.

 

{RR: I agree with the sensitivity and sensibility part but I disagree

that there have been too many instances of KARMA THREATS and 'if you

don't do this your life will be hell' kind of threats! This is just

plain and simple " fear mongering on your part " and I invite you to

provide evidence that you are not just imagining things! :-) For

someone who began expressing very recently, just a few months

earlier, September or so, to have such a negative view of this forum

is simply unacceptable! Maybe you were posting with another id

before! ;-}

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

>  

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

>

> Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:10:43 PM

> Re: Predictions

>

>

> Dear Pathi ji,

>

> I have tried myself to requesting members to write some tech info

in their analysis as both professionals, students r reading it and

also the need for lay members to know they r not beeing goofed by

some jargon if they meet someone anywhere in the wide world,

> a min level is required as many r not keen either to know u can

search such ppl too who want in plain English the message

>

> this is true of all traditional areas even marriage how many r

willing to sit thru the entire routine most want photo appearences in

select traditional scenes say saptapadi, [saat phere] the mangala

sutra daan, earlier kanya daan some the thread ceremony

>

> many r not invoking the ancestors blessings or the full lenght of a

wedding so r the longevity of such marriages too

>

> blame lines in both the pursants and querriests

>

> prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

> ; @

. com

> Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:53:31 PM

> Predictions

>

> Members:

>

> I am shocked to read some of the 'predictions' given in this open

forum, without basis or under specific rules accepted in Hindu

(Vedic) Astrology. No explanations for such predictions are given

also.

> God only have to save all, including Astrologers. I am also not

certain that 'Moderaters' read these mail which are allowed to be

posted, which could damage many lives,

> and their families.

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

>

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> hello sir

> my name is palak j patel. i m a virgorian. and my date of birth is

> 15-12-1987. time 11:20 am. can u tell me about my future profession or

> anything which u would like to tell about my future. some thing bad or

> good

> thankyou

>god bless

udidt say place of birth after that i can say, as per me bu

numrology i am sure u r very comited person , every satarday give

2rs to any begger

god bless

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Hi,

 

 

My DOB 09/02/1979

 

Time: 7.20 am

 

Place Ahmedabad - Gujarat - India

 

 

Please send me your predictions about marriage & career i am in stocks right

now, will i do good

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