You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

[Guest guest]

(Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

- You have at least 1 relative in the stock market. - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the road and find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, "Mama! Masi! Faiba! Kaka!" a couple of times. At least one is bound to be around.) - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been told by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to open the telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for help. - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised the food. - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From your hair to the nation's defence . - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be 40 years old. - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you wonder why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it. - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla. - Winter = undhiyu. - Summer = keri no ras. - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ... - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na vevai ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person in question is virtue personified. - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as a last resort, that's it. - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but when there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads of money, food and amenities. - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how much you hide it. - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool, actually. - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any given social occasions, that funerals become odd for you. (Non-Gujju funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone has the same problem, so they understand.) - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk) is. - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi. - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each, which is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia, fafda and maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies... - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun, Mottoloro, and Semen - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round) maarine aavye" -- SU VAAT CHE!!

[Guest guest]

A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the festivals and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

 

In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge Corner!!

 

All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with beautiful roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand. --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore) Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

 

(Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

- You have at least 1 relative in the stock market. - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the road and find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, "Mama! Masi! Faiba! Kaka!" a couple of times. At least one is bound to be around.) - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been told by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to open the telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for help. - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised the food. - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From your hair to the nation's defence . - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be 40

years old. - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you wonder why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it. - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla. - Winter = undhiyu. - Summer = keri no ras. - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ... - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na vevai ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person in question is virtue personified. - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as a last resort, that's it. - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but when there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads of money, food and amenities. - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

much you hide it. - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool, actually. - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any given social occasions, that funerals become odd for you. (Non-Gujju funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone has the same problem, so they understand.) - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk) is. - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi. - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each, which is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia, fafda and maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies... - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun, Mottoloro, and Semen - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round) maarine

aavye" -- SU VAAT CHE!!

[Guest guest]

Dear Kumar ji,

 

Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked to

choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me. No

other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any city

or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect

among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

 

Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, S kumar <kumar_8134 wrote:

>

> A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful

Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

> But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the festivals

and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> Â

> In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move

unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive

too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

Corner!!

> Â

> All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with beautiful

roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever

vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand. Â

>

> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please

ignore)

>

> Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

> (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> Â

> - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the

road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, " Mama!

Masi! Faiba! Kaka! " Â Â a couple of times. At least one is bound to

be around.)

> Â

> - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been

told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to open

the  telephone directory, turn to " Shah " and call any number for

help.

> Â

> - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised the

food.

> Â

> - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

your  hair to the nation's defence .

> Â

> - You understand that when someone says " Dhirajbhai no babo " or

> Â " Maniben ni baby " , the " baba " and " baby " in question could be 40

years  old.

> Â

> - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it.

> Â

> - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> Â

> - Winter = undhiyu.

> Â

> - Summer = keri no ras.

> Â

> - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...

> Â

> - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person in

question is  virtue personified.

> Â

> - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

a  last resort, that's it.

> Â

> - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads of

money, food and  amenities.

> Â

> - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

much  you hide it.

> Â

> - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,

actually.

> Â

> - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.

(Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone has

the same problem, so they understand.)

> Â

> - You know what " doodh cold drink " (pronounced doodh coal dreenk) is.

> Â

> - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> Â

> - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each, which

 is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia, fafda

and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies...

> Â

> - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> Â

> - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, " chalo rand (round)

> Â maarine aavye "

> Â

> Â

> -- SU VAAT CHE!!

>

[Guest guest]

Its a pleasure for me, and a great happiness too, to know that you are

present always and reading, watching and aware.

 

best wishes/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Kumar ji,

>

> Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

> would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked

to

> choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me.

No

> other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any

city

> or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect

> among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

>

> Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

> Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

> ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:

> >

> > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful

> Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

> > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the

festivals

> and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> > Â

> > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move

> unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive

> too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

> Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

> Corner!!

> > Â

> > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with

beautiful

> roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever

> vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand.Â

Â

> >

> > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus,

please

> ignore)

> >

> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> > Â

> > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> > Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the

> road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, " Mama!

> Masi! Faiba! Kaka! " Â Â a couple of times. At least one is bound

to

> be around.)

> > Â

> > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been

> told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to

open

> the  telephone directory, turn to " Shah " and call any number for

> help.

> > Â

> > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised

the

> food.

> > Â

> > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

> your  hair to the nation's defence .

> > Â

> > - You understand that when someone says " Dhirajbhai no babo " or

> > Â " Maniben ni baby " , the " baba " and " baby " in question could be

40

> years  old.

> > Â

> > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

> wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it.

> > Â

> > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> > Â

> > - Winter = undhiyu.

> > Â

> > - Summer = keri no ras.

> > Â

> > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...

> > Â

> > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

> vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person in

> question is  virtue personified.

> > Â

> > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

> a  last resort, that's it.

> > Â

> > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

> when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads of

> money, food and  amenities.

> > Â

> > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

> much  you hide it.

> > Â

> > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,

> actually.

> > Â

> > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

> given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.

> (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone has

> the same problem, so they understand.)

> > Â

> > - You know what " doodh cold drink " (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)

is.

> > Â

> > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> > Â

> > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,

which

> Â is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia,

fafda

> and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies...

> > Â

> > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> > Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> > Â

> > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, " chalo rand (round)

> > Â maarine aavye "

> > Â

> > Â

> > -- SU VAAT CHE!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

During informal discussions after taking classes for middle level bank officers in "training", I have come across an unanimous opinion that all of them irrespective of their being from Kerala or Asso or Kashmir, would choose Gujarat to settle down, as there is no "Shiv Sena" or sectarian feelings among Guju-s. Good neighbours, helpful in a Society, highly religious and hence cannot tolerate neighbourhoods of faiths who eat meat- Muslims and Christians.

 

Two Keralite bankers posted on transfer from Dubai were scared to their skin when orders came as Ahmedabad was supposed to be the "killing ground" as media's exaggerations had projected Mody as a "killer". Once they settled down they too feel that the roads are so good as Dubai and people are very co-operative and not quarrelsome as Kerala. "We too want to settle in Ahmedabad after retirement"!! A common wish of many from outside the State!

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore) Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 1:24 PM

Its a pleasure for me, and a great happiness too, to know that you arepresent always and reading, watching and aware.best wishes/Bhaskar., "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote:>>> Dear Kumar ji,>> Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it> would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever askedto> choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me.No> other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to anycity> or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect> among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.>>

Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,> Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose> ancestors were good, but not the present generation).>> regards/Bhaskar.>>>>> , S kumar kumar_8134@ wrote:> >> > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful> Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.> > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all thefestivals> and typical shops for sweets and pan!!> > Â> > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move> unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed

they turn agressive> too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her> Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge> Corner!!> > Â> > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live withbeautiful> roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever> vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand.ÂÂ> >> > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus,please> ignore)> > > > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34

PM> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)> > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.> > Â> > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in> >  Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the> road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, "Mama!> Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"  a couple of times. At least one is boundto> be around.)> > Â> > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been> told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is toopen> the  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for> help.> > Â> > - You measure the success of a

wedding by how many people praisedthe> food.> > Â> > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From> your  hair to the nation's defence .> > Â> > - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or> >  "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be40> years  old.> > Â> > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you> wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it.> > Â> > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.> > Â> > - Winter = undhiyu.> > Â> > - Summer = keri no ras.> > Â> > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...> > Â> > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na> vevai  ni dikri

na sasu gave a recommendation, the person in> question is  virtue personified.> > Â> > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as> a  last resort, that's it.> > Â> > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but> when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads of> money, food and  amenities.> > Â> > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how> much  you hide it.> > Â> > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,> actually.> > Â> > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any> given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.> (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone has> the same problem, so they

understand.)> > Â> > - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)is.> > Â> > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.> > Â> > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,which>  is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia,fafda> and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies...> > Â> > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,> >  Mottoloro, and Semen> > Â> > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)> >  maarine aavye"> > Â> > Â> > -- SU VAAT CHE!!> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskarji,I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars (Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river, Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will create more disputes and partitions. Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote against

them. Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sad and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutu hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.. Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members (whether Gujarati, UP, Keral etc). But we should not blame all the Marathi people for the injustice done by few

politicians.Regards,PrassanaBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

 

 

 

Dear Kumar ji,

 

Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked to

choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me. No

other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any city

or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect

among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

 

Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

, S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...> wrote:

>

> A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful

Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

> But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the festivals

and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> Â

> In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move

unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive

too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

Corner!!

> Â

> All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with beautiful

roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever

vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand. Â

>

> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please

ignore)

>

> Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

> (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> Â

> - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the

road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, "Mama!

Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"Â Â a couple of times. At least one is bound to

be around.)

> Â

> - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been

told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to open

the  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for

help.

> Â

> - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised the

food.

> Â

> - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

your  hair to the nation's defence .

> Â

> - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or

> Â "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be 40

years  old.

> Â

> - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it.

> Â

> - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> Â

> - Winter = undhiyu.

> Â

> - Summer = keri no ras.

> Â

> - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...

> Â

> - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person in

question is  virtue personified.

> Â

> - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

a  last resort, that's it.

> Â

> - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads of

money, food and  amenities.

> Â

> - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

much  you hide it.

> Â

> - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,

actually.

> Â

> - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.

(Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone has

the same problem, so they understand.)

> Â

> - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk) is.

> Â

> - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> Â

> - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each, which

 is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia, fafda

and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies...

> Â

> - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> Â

> - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)

> Â maarine aavye"

> Â

> Â

> -- SU VAAT CHE!!

>

[Guest guest]

If I am right "Lukha-s" refer to jobless wanderers, either not fit for any job, or not prepared to work for a living, but living as pests on others. It need not refer to Marathi-s as stated by Kamalakar. It can refer to any population, might be the Dharavi gangsters from Tamilnadu, or Muslim bootleggers and kidnappers engaged in running brothels or the ubiquitous UP and Bihari-s flooding Mumbai without jobs, but doing odd jobs to survive.

 

Kamalakar's reference to Gujarat riots in unfortunate. It appears he has not read Justice Tewatia Committee Report, the first one to reveal the facts before indoctrination and tutoring by the pseodusecularists and NGO-s to implicate Hindu-s terming death o just 500 Muslims as genocide of Muslims but ignoring over 250 Hindu-s too killed in stabbings or do you want to call it "collateral damages?"

 

Kamalakar, the killings of Muslims in retaliation for attempt to burn the entie train of 2500 Hindu pilgrims in Sabarmati Express by ISI, SIMI and Deobandi-s in collaboration with local Municipal Chairman and Corporators, finally burning down two sleeper coaches with 59 women and children burnt alive, was spontaneous all over the State and within 24 hours first deployments of army was made on March 1, by Narendra Mody to control the riots.

 

The media-Aj Tak spread the news that Mody allowed free killing for three days and only on March 1, army was deployed- adding 29,30 and 31 to February until it was pointed out. But intrnational media had already taken the "3 days free killings" damaging Gujarat considerably.

 

Kamalakar, please do not jump to conclusions on assumptions, as these are sensitive issues and dangerous at times.

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Prassana Kamalakar <prassana.kamalakar wrote:

Prassana Kamalakar <prassana.kamalakarRe: Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore) Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 3:23 AM

 

 

Dear Bhaskarji,

 

I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars (Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river, Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will create more disputes and partitions.

Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote against them.

Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sad and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it. (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rwandan_Genocide)

Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutu hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis..

Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

 

Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members (whether Gujarati, UP, Keral etc). But we should not blame all the Marathi people for the injustice done by few politicians.

 

Regards,

Prassana

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

Dear Kumar ji,Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, itwould be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked tochoose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me. Noother choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any cityor state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respectamong Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whoseancestors were good, but not the present generation).regards/Bhaskar., S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...> wrote:>> A

beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peacefulCommunity but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.> But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the festivalsand typical shops for sweets and pan!!> Â> In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could moveunmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressivetoo as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed herKarate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru BridgeCorner!!> Â> All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with beautifulroads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an evervigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand. Â>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Subject:

You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, pleaseignore)> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM>>> Â>>>>> (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)> You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)> - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.> Â> - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in>  Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across theroad and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, "Mama!Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"  a couple of times. At least one is bound tobe around.)> Â> - You don't worry about being

stranded in New Jersey. You've beentold  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to openthe  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number forhelp.> Â> - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised thefood.> Â> - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. Fromyour  hair to the nation's defence .> Â> - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or>  "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be 40years  old.> Â> - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or youwonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it.> Â> - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.> Â> - Winter = undhiyu.> Â> - Summer = keri no ras.> Â>

- Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...> Â> - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai navevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person inquestion is  virtue personified.> Â> - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them asa  last resort, that's it.> Â> - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, butwhen  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads ofmoney, food and  amenities.> Â> - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter howmuch  you hide it.> Â> - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,actually.> Â> - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at anygiven  social occasions, that funerals

become odd for you.(Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone hasthe same problem, so they understand.)> Â> - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk) is.> Â> - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.> Â> - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each, which is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia, fafdaand  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies...> Â> - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,>  Mottoloro, and Semen> Â> - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)>  maarine aavye"> Â> Â> -- SU VAAT CHE!!>

[Guest guest]

As a member I fully endorse what Mr. Kumar has written.RGDS,RAJIV JAINS kumar <kumar_8134 Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:25:13 AMRe: Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please

ignore)

 

 

If I am right "Lukha-s" refer to jobless wanderers, either not fit for any job, or not prepared to work for a living, but living as pests on others. It need not refer to Marathi-s as stated by Kamalakar. It can refer to any population, might be the Dharavi gangsters from Tamilnadu, or Muslim bootleggers and kidnappers engaged in running brothels or the ubiquitous UP and Bihari-s flooding Mumbai without jobs, but doing odd jobs to survive.

 

Kamalakar's reference to Gujarat riots in unfortunate. It appears he has not read Justice Tewatia Committee Report, the first one to reveal the facts before indoctrination and tutoring by the pseodusecularists and NGO-s to implicate Hindu-s terming death o just 500 Muslims as genocide of Muslims but ignoring over 250 Hindu-s too killed in stabbings or do you want to call it "collateral damages?"

 

Kamalakar, the killings of Muslims in retaliation for attempt to burn the entie train of 2500 Hindu pilgrims in Sabarmati Express by ISI, SIMI and Deobandi-s in collaboration with local Municipal Chairman and Corporators, finally burning down two sleeper coaches with 59 women and children burnt alive, was spontaneous all over the State and within 24 hours first deployments of army was made on March 1, by Narendra Mody to control the riots.

 

The media-Aj Tak spread the news that Mody allowed free killing for three days and only on March 1, army was deployed- adding 29,30 and 31 to February until it was pointed out. But intrnational media had already taken the "3 days free killings" damaging Gujarat considerably.

 

Kamalakar, please do not jump to conclusions on assumptions, as these are sensitive issues and dangerous at times.

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Prassana Kamalakar <prassana.kamalakar@ > wrote:

Prassana Kamalakar <prassana.kamalakar@ >Re: Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 3:23 AM

 

 

Dear Bhaskarji,

 

I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars (Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river, Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will create more disputes and partitions.

Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote against them.

Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sad and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)

Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutu hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis..

Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

 

Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members (whether Gujarati, UP, Keral etc). But we should not blame all the Marathi people for the injustice done by few politicians.

 

Regards,

Prassana

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

Dear Kumar ji,Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, itwould be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked tochoose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me. Noother choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any cityor state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respectamong Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whoseancestors were good, but not the present generation).regards/Bhaskar., S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...> wrote:>> A

beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peacefulCommunity but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.> But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the festivalsand typical shops for sweets and pan!!> Â> In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could moveunmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressivetoo as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed herKarate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru BridgeCorner!!> Â> All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with beautifulroads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an evervigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand. Â>> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> Subject:

You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, pleaseignore)> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM>>> Â>>>>> (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)> You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)> - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.> Â> - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in>  Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across theroad and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout, "Mama!Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"  a couple of times. At least one is bound tobe around.)> Â> - You don't worry about being

stranded in New Jersey. You've beentold  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is to openthe  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number forhelp.> Â> - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised thefood.> Â> - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. Fromyour  hair to the nation's defence .> Â> - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or>  "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be 40years  old.> Â> - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or youwonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of it.> Â> - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.> Â> - Winter = undhiyu.> Â> - Summer = keri no ras.> Â>

- Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...> Â> - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai navevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person inquestion is  virtue personified.> Â> - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them asa  last resort, that's it.> Â> - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, butwhen  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads ofmoney, food and  amenities.> Â> - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter howmuch  you hide it.> Â> - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,actually.> Â> - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at anygiven  social occasions, that funerals

become odd for you.(Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone hasthe same problem, so they understand.)> Â> - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk) is.> Â> - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.> Â> - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each, which is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia, fafdaand  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green chillies...> Â> - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,>  Mottoloro, and Semen> Â> - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)>  maarine aavye"> Â> Â> -- SU VAAT CHE!!>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kamalakar ji,

 

When we mention a word " lukha " it can be just anybody - who is not

working. In my case when I meant it, I relly mentioned it for those

local lukhas whose mothera are working as servants in houses as maids,

washing utensils and clothes of others,and earning money, while their

sons are busy smoking cigarettes after 6.30 evening will have a bottle

of Beer, and then stand in the lanes in twos or fours busy studying

which girl or women is good looking and where she stays, whoever passes

by. I have spent 48 years in this city-Bombay so know the gorund

realities. These same lukhas also form the local crowd in the local

units of Political parties. They on Order of their bosses go and break

the Taxis of Up Bhaiyyas, kick the poor sandwhich walahs or fruitsellers

on the roads, and throwing their stuffs away. These are the lukhas I was

talking about. This of course does not encopmass all the Marathis. No

never. For neither can all Marathis be lukhas, neither can all Muslims

be terrorists, neither can all Bengalis be kangaalis, neither can all

Madrasis be Blacks, neither can all Sindhis be chors, neither can all

Marwadis be Kanjoos, neither can all Delhi walas be dilwallahs.

 

We are all freinds and colleauges of the same platform and discussing

playfully and informally.

 

I hope these discussions do not take a note of seriousness or become a

point of contention. before this happens please know when to put a brake

and where.

 

On riots of Gujarat most of us have only two views. It was either Good

and a proper lesson to these people, OR, it was an act of injustice.

 

It does not make any difference what view I may have or, or you may

have, but this view must not be a cause of differences between us.

 

Just enjoy discussing till it becomes Hot.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prassana Kamalakar

<prassana.kamalakar wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at

the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars

(Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties

are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity

among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain

from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the

different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river,

Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will create

more disputes and partitions.

> Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the

political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote

against them.

> Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sad

and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the

riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another

Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000

Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United

Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide)

> Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutu

hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.

> Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

>

> Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members (whether

Gujarati, UP, Keral etc).. But we should not blame all the Marathi

people for the injustice done by few politicians.

>

> Regards,

> Prassana

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM

> Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus,

please ignore)

>

>

>

> Dear Kumar ji,

>

> Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

> would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked

to

> choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me.

No

> other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any

city

> or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect

> among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

>

> Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

> Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

> ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful

> Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

> > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the

festivals

> and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> > Â

> > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move

> unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive

> too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

> Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

> Corner!!

> > Â

> > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with

beautiful

> roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever

> vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand.Â

Â

> >

> > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,

please

> ignore)

> >

> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> > Â

> > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> > Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the

> road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout,

" Mama!

> Masi! Faiba! Kaka! " Â Â a couple of times. At least one is

bound to

> be around.)

> > Â

> > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been

> told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is

to open

> the  telephone directory, turn to " Shah " and call any number for

> help.

> > Â

> > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised

the

> food.

> > Â

> > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

> your  hair to the nation's defence .

> > Â

> > - You understand that when someone says " Dhirajbhai no babo " or

> > Â " Maniben ni baby " , the " baba " and " baby " in question could be

40

> years  old.

> > Â

> > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

> wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of

it.

> > Â

> > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> > Â

> > - Winter = undhiyu.

> > Â

> > - Summer = keri no ras.

> > Â

> > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...

> > Â

> > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

> vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person

in

> question is  virtue personified.

> > Â

> > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

> a  last resort, that's it.

> > Â

> > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

> when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads

of

> money, food and  amenities.

> > Â

> > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

> much  you hide it.

> > Â

> > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,

> actually.

> > Â

> > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

> given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.

> (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone

has

> the same problem, so they understand.)

> > Â

> > - You know what " doodh cold drink " (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)

is.

> > Â

> > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> > Â

> > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,

which

> Â is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia,

fafda

> and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green

chillies...

> > Â

> > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> > Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> > Â

> > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, " chalo rand (round)

> > Â maarine aavye "

> > Â

> > Â

> > -- SU VAAT CHE!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No common man/women has the power to start riots unless and until it has some POLITICALLY Motivated agenda , See the history of any riots in human history .....or if u do not want to go that far see the history of independent India , All riots in this entire years of independence have a Political Angle to it. This is a Rule without exception (this can be taken as a challenge also , in a healthy way )So the moral of the story is " All Riots are Politically Motivated" and if supposedly educated people like us cannot resist the temptation of proving a point when we talk of riots then how can a common person do so.....BTW Gujarat is not the only riots that have happened in the history

of independent India , It is just that they happened when media revolution was on in India and 'Secularist' were there searching for a defination for themself , But having said that every loss of human life posses a bigger question on calling ourselves civilized . Sorry to give up to the tempatation of Secularist bashing

, Prassana Kamalakar

<prassana.kamalakar wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at

the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars

(Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties

are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity

among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain

from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the

different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river,

Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on).. The hatred will create

more disputes and partitions.

> Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the

political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote

against them.

> Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sad

and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the

riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another

Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000

Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United

Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it.

(http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rwandan_Genocide)

> Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutu

hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.

> Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

>

> Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members (whether

Gujarati, UP, Keral etc).. But we should not blame all the Marathi

people for the injustice done by few politicians.

>

> Regards,

> Prassana

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

>

> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM

> Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus,

please ignore)

>

>

>

> Dear Kumar ji,

>

> Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

> would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked

to

> choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me..

No

> other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any

city

> or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect

> among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

>

> Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

> Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

> ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful

> Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

> > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the

festivals

> and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> > Â

> > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move

> unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive

> too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

> Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

> Corner!!

> > Â

> > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with

beautiful

> roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever

> vigilant Govt.. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand.Â

Â

> >

> > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,

please

> ignore)

> >

> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> > Â

> > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> > Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the

> road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout,

"Mama!

> Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"Â Â a couple of times. At least one is

bound to

> be around.)

> > Â

> > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been

> told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is

to open

> the  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for

> help.

> > Â

> > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised

the

> food.

> > Â

> > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

> your  hair to the nation's defence .

> > Â

> > - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or

> > Â "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be

40

> years  old.

> > Â

> > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

> wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of

it.

> > Â

> > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> > Â

> > - Winter = undhiyu.

> > Â

> > - Summer = keri no ras.

> > Â

> > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...

> > Â

> > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

> vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person

in

> question is  virtue personified.

> > Â

> > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

> a  last resort, that's it.

> > Â

> > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

> when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads

of

> money, food and  amenities.

> > Â

> > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

> much  you hide it.

> > Â

> > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,

> actually.

> > Â

> > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

> given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.

> (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone

has

> the same problem, so they understand.)

> > Â

> > - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)

is.

> > Â

> > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> > Â

> > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,

which

> Â is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia,

fafda

> and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green

chillies...

> > Â

> > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> > Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> > Â

> > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)

> > Â maarine aavye"

> > Â

> > Â

> > -- SU VAAT CHE!!

> >

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Tim Jorge,

 

While agreeing to some of your statements, let me also make some

corrections. In India most of the riots are based on communal lines, and

also involve some local people over here, though I agree some

Politicians may take advantage of these for Vote Banking.

 

There has been lot of influx for instance of Bangaldeshis in India, and

they certainly cannot gain homes here without the help of local people

whom may be a part of such rioting indirectly by supporting these people

to stay in India, to continue their activities. I know for example one

person who is presently licking the feets of one Bangaldeshi, on what

grounds of course he only knows, but he has now been ostracised from his

own community by the old timers, who are being able to understand now

with some suspicions about what is going on.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Tim Jorge <tim.jorge wrote:

>

>

> No common man/women has the power to start riots unless and until it

has some POLITICALLY Motivated agenda , See the history of any riots in

human history .....or if u do not want to go that far see the history of

independent India , All riots in this entire years of independence have

a Political Angle to it.

> This is a Rule without exception (this can be taken as a challenge

also , in a healthy way )

>

> So the moral of the story is " All Riots are Politically Motivated "

and if supposedly educated people like us cannot resist the temptation

of proving a point when we talk of riots then how can a common person do

so.....

>

> BTW Gujarat is not the only riots that have happened in the history of

independent India , It is just that they happened when media revolution

was on in India and 'Secularist' were there searching for a defination

for themself ,

> But having said that every loss of human life posses a bigger question

on calling ourselves civilized .

>

> Sorry to give up to the tempatation of Secularist bashing

>

>

>

> , Prassana Kamalakar

> <prassana.kamalakar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji,

> >

> > I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at

> the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars

> (Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties

> are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity

> among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain

> from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the

> different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river,

> Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will

create

> more disputes and partitions.

> > Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the

> political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote

> against them.

> > Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely

sad

> and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the

> riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another

> Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000

> Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United

> Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it.

> (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rwandan_Genocide)

> > Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a

Hutu

> hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.

> > Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

> >

> > Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members

(whether

> Gujarati, UP, Keral etc).. But we should not blame all the Marathi

> people for the injustice done by few politicians.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Prassana

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> >

> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM

> > Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus,

> please ignore)

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kumar ji,

> >

> > Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

> > would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked

> to

> > choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me.

> No

> > other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any

> city

> > or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you

respect

> > among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

> >

> > Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

> > Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

> > ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most

peaceful

> > Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a

mob.

> > > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the

> festivals

> > and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> > > Â

> > > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could

move

> > unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn

agressive

> > too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

> > Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

> > Corner!!

> > > Â

> > > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with

> beautiful

> > roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an

ever

> > vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first

hand.Â

> Â

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,

> please

> > ignore)

> > >

> > > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> > > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> > > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> > > Â

> > > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> > > Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk

across the

> > road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just

shout,

> " Mama!

> > Masi! Faiba! Kaka! " Â Â a couple of times. At

least one is

> bound to

> > be around.)

> > > Â

> > > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've been

> > told  by everyone that the thing to do at such

a time is

> to open

> > the  telephone directory, turn to " Shah " and call any

number for

> > help.

> > > Â

> > > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised

> the

> > food.

> > > Â

> > > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

> > your  hair to the nation's defence .

> > > Â

> > > - You understand that when someone says " Dhirajbhai no babo " or

> > > Â " Maniben ni baby " , the " baba " and " baby " in question

could be

> 40

> > years  old.

> > > Â

> > > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

> > wonder  why the whole world makes such a big

deal out of

> it.

> > > Â

> > > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> > > Â

> > > - Winter = undhiyu.

> > > Â

> > > - Summer = keri no ras.

> > > Â

> > > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana

....

> > > Â

> > > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

> > vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation,

the person

> in

> > question is  virtue personified.

> > > Â

> > > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

> > a  last resort, that's it.

> > > Â

> > > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

> > when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send

truckloads

> of

> > money, food and  amenities.

> > > Â

> > > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

> > much  you hide it.

> > > Â

> > > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather

cool,

> > actually.

> > > Â

> > > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

> > given  social occasions, that funerals become

odd for you.

> > (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju

funerals, everyone

> has

> > the same problem, so they understand.)

> > > Â

> > > - You know what " doodh cold drink " (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)

> is.

> > > Â

> > > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> > > Â

> > > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,

> which

> > Â is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla,

mathia,

> fafda

> > and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried

green

> chillies...

> > > Â

> > > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> > > Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> > > Â

> > > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, " chalo rand (round)

> > > Â maarine aavye "

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > > -- SU VAAT CHE!!

> > >

> Looking for local information? Find it on Local

http://in.local./

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Tim Gorge,

 

Not only for terrorist activities, but even for other evil deeds locals

are used, for instance -

 

Last week, in Bombay, a politician owning a society was put in trouble,

because the society owned by him had rented all the rooms to unknown

people and the Police found that a prostituion racket was running there

with girls brought from Bangladesh.

 

This may be hapenning anywhere in India. But who chooses to be channel

partners for such activities from the neighbouring countries ? Obviously

people from the common gentry who appear to be Noble men otherwise ?

These Bangladeshi Lords offer incentives and financial considerations to

the Indians, which is why we are seeing spate of such influx at home in

India in all cities.

 

Investigations on activities with those running common platforms between

India and Bangladesh must be made, to reveal a whole lot of information

on further sisnister activities in the coming.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Tim Jorge,

>

> While agreeing to some of your statements, let me also make some

> corrections. In India most of the riots are based on communal lines,

and

> also involve some local people over here, though I agree some

> Politicians may take advantage of these for Vote Banking.

>

> There has been lot of influx for instance of Bangaldeshis in India,

and

> they certainly cannot gain homes here without the help of local people

> whom may be a part of such rioting indirectly by supporting these

people

> to stay in India, to continue their activities. I know for example one

> person who is presently licking the feets of one Bangaldeshi, on what

> grounds of course he only knows, but he has now been ostracised from

his

> own community by the old timers, who are being able to understand now

> with some suspicions about what is going on.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , Tim Jorge tim.jorge@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > No common man/women has the power to start riots unless and until it

> has some POLITICALLY Motivated agenda , See the history of any riots

in

> human history .....or if u do not want to go that far see the history

of

> independent India , All riots in this entire years of independence

have

> a Political Angle to it.

> > This is a Rule without exception (this can be taken as a challenge

> also , in a healthy way )

> >

> > So the moral of the story is " All Riots are Politically Motivated "

> and if supposedly educated people like us cannot resist the temptation

> of proving a point when we talk of riots then how can a common person

do

> so.....

> >

> > BTW Gujarat is not the only riots that have happened in the history

of

> independent India , It is just that they happened when media

revolution

> was on in India and 'Secularist' were there searching for a defination

> for themself ,

> > But having said that every loss of human life posses a bigger

question

> on calling ourselves civilized .

> >

> > Sorry to give up to the tempatation of Secularist bashing

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prassana Kamalakar

> > <prassana.kamalakar wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji,

> > >

> > > I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But

at

> > the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars

> > (Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political

parties

> > are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity

> > among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain

> > from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the

> > different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river,

> > Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will

> create

> > more disputes and partitions.

> > > Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the

> > political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote

> > against them.

> > > Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely

> sad

> > and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on

the

> > riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be

another

> > Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed

800,000

> > Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no

United

> > Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it.

> > (http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rwandan_Genocide)

> > > Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a

> Hutu

> > hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.

> > > Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

> > >

> > > Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members

> (whether

> > Gujarati, UP, Keral etc).. But we should not blame all the Marathi

> > people for the injustice done by few politicians.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Prassana

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > >

> > > Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM

> > > Re: You Must Be a Gujju If...

(Non-Gujjus,

> > please ignore)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Kumar ji,

> > >

> > > Yes I agree 100% to Your views. If ever asked tio choose a state,

it

> > > would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever

asked

> > to

> > > choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for

me.

> > No

> > > other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any

> > city

> > > or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you

> respect

> > > among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

> > >

> > > Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris,

Parsis,

> > > Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

> > > ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , S kumar <kumar_8134@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most

> peaceful

> > > Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a

> mob.

> > > > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the

> > festivals

> > > and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> > > > Â

> > > > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could

> move

> > > unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn

> agressive

> > > too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed

her

> > > Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

> > > Corner!!

> > > > Â

> > > > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with

> > beautiful

> > > roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an

> ever

> > > vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first

> hand.Â

> > Â

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,

> > please

> > > ignore)

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> > > > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> > > > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> > > > Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk

> across the

> > > road and  find a relative. (Still easier,

just

> shout,

> > " Mama!

> > > Masi! Faiba! Kaka! " Â Â a couple of times. At

> least one is

> > bound to

> > > be around.)

> > > > Â

> > > > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey. You've

been

> > > told  by everyone that the thing to do at

such

> a time is

> > to open

> > > the  telephone directory, turn to " Shah " and call any

> number for

> > > help.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people

praised

> > the

> > > food.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

> > > your  hair to the nation's defence .

> > > > Â

> > > > - You understand that when someone says " Dhirajbhai no babo " or

> > > > Â " Maniben ni baby " , the " baba " and " baby " in question

> could be

> > 40

> > > years  old.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

> > > wonder  why the whole world makes such a big

> deal out of

> > it.

> > > > Â

> > > > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> > > > Â

> > > > - Winter = undhiyu.

> > > > Â

> > > > - Summer = keri no ras.

> > > > Â

> > > > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana

> ...

> > > > Â

> > > > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

> > > vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a

recommendation,

> the person

> > in

> > > question is  virtue personified.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them

as

> > > a  last resort, that's it.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road,

but

> > > when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you

send

> truckloads

> > of

> > > money, food and  amenities.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter

how

> > > much  you hide it.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather

> cool,

> > > actually.

> > > > Â

> > > > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

> > > given  social occasions, that funerals

become

> odd for you.

> > > (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju

> funerals, everyone

> > has

> > > the same problem, so they understand.)

> > > > Â

> > > > - You know what " doodh cold drink " (pronounced doodh coal

dreenk)

> > is.

> > > > Â

> > > > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> > > > Â

> > > > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,

> > which

> > > Â is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla,

> mathia,

> > fafda

> > > and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried

> green

> > chillies...

> > > > Â

> > > > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> > > > Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> > > > Â

> > > > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, " chalo rand

(round)

> > > > Â maarine aavye "

> > > > Â

> > > > Â

> > > > -- SU VAAT CHE!!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Bhaskar ji and Kumar ji,I regret for interpreting the meaning of the word 'lukha' in wrong way. Bhaskarji I have no objections since u are refering to all trouble making people among all caste/state/religions as 'lukhas'. My sincere apologies for wrong interpretations. As far as Gujarat riots are concerned, I wanted to make two points. 1.. Any act of violence ( regarding caste/religion in particular ) in country like India should always be taken care by the government at the earliest. If not, it can destroy many individuals, kids, families, public/private property so on and so forth. Most importantly it creates hatred in two communities. I don't want to say Hindus were wrong or Muslims were right. Both

parties made mistakes. Media might have portrayed wrong pictures but we must agree that it certainly put a pressure on the governing bodies to control the violence. I made reference to Rwanda genocide just to put forward a fact about how crucial a role the media needs to play to stop spreading the violence. 2. An entire community should not be blamed for an incident like "Indira Gandhi's assassination" or "Godhra incident" or "Gujarat Riots". Media has to play a very careful and impartial role during such periods. Unfortunately it is not the case. But the good thing is that it is helpful to put pressure on the government to control the situation.Regards,PrassanaBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:51:53 AM Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

 

 

 

Dear Kamalakar ji,

 

When we mention a word "lukha" it can be just anybody - who is not

working. In my case when I meant it, I relly mentioned it for those

local lukhas whose mothera are working as servants in houses as maids,

washing utensils and clothes of others,and earning money, while their

sons are busy smoking cigarettes after 6.30 evening will have a bottle

of Beer, and then stand in the lanes in twos or fours busy studying

which girl or women is good looking and where she stays, whoever passes

by. I have spent 48 years in this city-Bombay so know the gorund

realities. These same lukhas also form the local crowd in the local

units of Political parties. They on Order of their bosses go and break

the Taxis of Up Bhaiyyas, kick the poor sandwhich walahs or fruitsellers

on the roads, and throwing their stuffs away. These are the lukhas I was

talking about. This of course does not encopmass all the Marathis. No

never. For neither can all Marathis be lukhas, neither can all Muslims

be terrorists, neither can all Bengalis be kangaalis, neither can all

Madrasis be Blacks, neither can all Sindhis be chors, neither can all

Marwadis be Kanjoos, neither can all Delhi walas be dilwallahs.

 

We are all freinds and colleauges of the same platform and discussing

playfully and informally.

 

I hope these discussions do not take a note of seriousness or become a

point of contention. before this happens please know when to put a brake

and where.

 

On riots of Gujarat most of us have only two views. It was either Good

and a proper lesson to these people, OR, it was an act of injustice.

 

It does not make any difference what view I may have or, or you may

have, but this view must not be a cause of differences between us.

 

Just enjoy discussing till it becomes Hot.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

, Prassana Kamalakar

<prassana.kamalakar wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But at

the same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars

(Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political parties

are playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurity

among the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrain

from spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among the

different states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river,

Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will create

more disputes and partitions.

> Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis will understand the

political conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/vote

against them.

> Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sad

and we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on the

riots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be another

Rawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000

Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no United

Nations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it.

(http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rwandan_Genocide)

> Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutu

hotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.

> Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.

>

> Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members (whether

Gujarati, UP, Keral etc).. But we should not blame all the Marathi

people for the injustice done by few politicians.

>

> Regards,

> Prassana

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

>

> Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM

> Re: You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,

please ignore)

>

>

>

> Dear Kumar ji,

>

> Yes I agree 100% to Your views.. If ever asked tio choose a state, it

> would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever asked

to

> choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me.

No

> other choice. If asked tos end my family without my company to any

city

> or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect

> among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.

>

> Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,

> Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose

> ancestors were good, but not the present generation).

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , S kumar <kumar_8134@ ....>

wrote:

> >

> > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful

> Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.

> > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all the

festivals

> and typical shops for sweets and pan!!

> > Â

> > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could move

> unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive

> too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her

> Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge

> Corner!!

> > Â

> > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live with

beautiful

> roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever

> vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand.Â

Â

> >

> > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,

please

> ignore)

> >

> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)

> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

> > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.

> > Â

> > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in

> > Â Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the

> road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout,

"Mama!

> Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"Â Â a couple of times. At least one is

bound to

> be around.)

> > Â

> > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey.. You've been

> told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time is

to open

> the  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for

> help.

> > Â

> > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people praised

the

> food.

> > Â

> > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From

> your  hair to the nation's defence .

> > Â

> > - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or

> > Â "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be

40

> years  old.

> > Â

> > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you

> wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out of

it.

> > Â

> > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.

> > Â

> > - Winter = undhiyu.

> > Â

> > - Summer = keri no ras.

> > Â

> > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...

> > Â

> > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na

> vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the person

in

> question is  virtue personified.

> > Â

> > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as

> a  last resort, that's it.

> > Â

> > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but

> when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloads

of

> money, food and  amenities.

> > Â

> > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how

> much  you hide it.

> > Â

> > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,

> actually.

> > Â

> > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any

> given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.

> (Non-Gujju  funerals, that is. At Gujju funerals, everyone

has

> the same problem, so they understand.)

> > Â

> > - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)

is.

> > Â

> > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.

> > Â

> > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,

which

> Â is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia,

fafda

> and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried green

chillies...

> > Â

> > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,

> > Â Mottoloro, and Semen

> > Â

> > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)

> > Â maarine aavye"

> > Â

> > Â

> > -- SU VAAT CHE!!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>>Any act of violence ( regarding caste/religion in particular ) in country like India should always be taken care by the government at the earliest.>>

 

Gujarat incidents 2002 have been distorted and exaggerated so much by the biassed media that unless and until you are on the spot, you cannot judge and arrive at the truth.

 

e.g. the Hindu Organisation called for a bandh on 28th.Fberuary after the gruesome burning of 59 innocent pilgrims in Godhra. The riots that started with the bandh went out of control as the Police deployed could not reach all the distant locations where too the attacks were reported.

 

Narendra Mody contacted the PM when he felt situation going out of control of the State machinery, AT 4 PM on the same day and the logistics of moving the troops from border areas to Jhansi and arranging their travel..etc. took 48 hours delay in deploying them effectively.

 

However, the local armed forces in Cantonments were deployed the very next day at Baroda where the riots were worse than Ahmedabad where tyhe strong Police force were already deployed.

 

What I want toi affirm that there was no delay on the part of Gujarat Govt. to react and control the situation, compared to the Congress Govt. led by Hitendra Desai in 1969 when for a whole week, killings continued unabated with Policemen carrying only lathi-s running away from riot spots.

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Prassana Kamalakar <prassana.kamalakar wrote:

Prassana Kamalakar <prassana.kamalakarRe: Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore) Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:36 AM

 

 

Dear Bhaskar ji and Kumar ji,

 

I regret for interpreting the meaning of the word 'lukha' in wrong way. Bhaskarji I have no objections since u are refering to all trouble making people among all caste/state/ religions as 'lukhas'. My sincere apologies for wrong interpretations.

 

As far as Gujarat riots are concerned, I wanted to make two points.

 

1.. Any act of violence ( regarding caste/religion in particular ) in country like India should always be taken care by the government at the earliest. If not, it can destroy many individuals, kids, families, public/private property so on and so forth. Most importantly it creates hatred in two communities. I don't want to say Hindus were wrong or Muslims were right. Both parties made mistakes. Media might have portrayed wrong pictures but we must agree that it certainly put a pressure on the governing bodies to control the violence. I made reference to Rwanda genocide just to put forward a fact about how crucial a role the media needs to play to stop spreading the violence.

 

2. An entire community should not be blamed for an incident like "Indira Gandhi's assassination" or "Godhra incident" or "Gujarat Riots". Media has to play a very careful and impartial role during such periods. Unfortunately it is not the case. But the good thing is that it is helpful to put pressure on the government to control the situation.

 

Regards,

Prassana

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:51:53 AM Re: You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)

Dear Kamalakar ji,When we mention a word "lukha" it can be just anybody - who is notworking. In my case when I meant it, I relly mentioned it for thoselocal lukhas whose mothera are working as servants in houses as maids,washing utensils and clothes of others,and earning money, while theirsons are busy smoking cigarettes after 6.30 evening will have a bottleof Beer, and then stand in the lanes in twos or fours busy studyingwhich girl or women is good looking and where she stays, whoever passesby. I have spent 48 years in this city-Bombay so know the gorundrealities. These same lukhas also form the local crowd in the localunits of Political parties. They on Order of their bosses go and breakthe Taxis of Up Bhaiyyas, kick the poor sandwhich walahs or fruitsellerson the roads, and throwing their stuffs away. These are the lukhas I wastalking about. This of course does not encopmass all the

Marathis. Nonever. For neither can all Marathis be lukhas, neither can all Muslimsbe terrorists, neither can all Bengalis be kangaalis, neither can allMadrasis be Blacks, neither can all Sindhis be chors, neither can allMarwadis be Kanjoos, neither can all Delhi walas be dilwallahs.We are all freinds and colleauges of the same platform and discussingplayfully and informally.I hope these discussions do not take a note of seriousness or become apoint of contention. before this happens please know when to put a brakeand where.On riots of Gujarat most of us have only two views. It was either Goodand a proper lesson to these people, OR, it was an act of injustice.It does not make any difference what view I may have or, or you mayhave, but this view must not be a cause of differences between us.Just enjoy discussing till it becomes Hot.regards,Bhaskar., Prassana Kamalakar<prassana.kamalakar wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,>> I do respect u a lot as an Astrologer and a good human being. But atthe same time I strongly condemn your reference to local mumbaikars(Marathi) as local lukhas. It is really sad that few political partiesare playing Marathi card for their benefits and creating insecurityamong the non-Marathis. But the learned people like u should refrainfrom spreading this venom. We already have many disputes among thedifferent states in India (e.g. TN vs Karnataka over Cauvery river,Maharashtra vs Kanrataka over Belgaon and so on). The hatred will createmore disputes and partitions.> Let us hope that all Marathis and non-Marathis

will understand thepolitical conspiracies of few selfish politicians and they act/voteagainst them.> Whatever had happened in Gujarat in and after Godhra was extremely sadand we should congratulate to media to some extent for focusing on theriots. What do we expect from media? Did we want Gujarat to be anotherRawanda. In 1994 the Hutu community of Rwanda bruitally killed 800,000Tutsis in 100 days. Why? because there was no active media, no UnitedNations (UN) to focus it and bring it to the world to stop it.(http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Rwandan_Genocide)> Please watch the movie 'Hotel Rwanda' (a true story) to see how a Hutuhotel manager saved the life of 800 Tutsis.> Hatred is going to lead us nowhere but to the darkness.>> Sir, I don't mean to disrespect u or any of our group members

(whetherGujarati, UP, Keral etc).. But we should not blame all the Marathipeople for the injustice done by few politicians.>> Regards,> Prassana>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:52:09 AM> Re: You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,please ignore)>>>> Dear Kumar ji,>> Yes I agree 100% to Your views.. If ever asked tio choose a state, it> would be either Gujarat or rajasthan for me. No other. If ever askedto> choose a place for setting up industry , it would be Gujarat for me.No> other choice. If

asked tos end my family without my company to anycity> or state, it would be Gujarat without fail. Ifa sked whom you respect> among Poilticians, it would be Narendra Mody for me without doubt.>> Bombay is Bombay only because of these Gujaratis, Marwaris, Parsis,> Catholics and Sindhis and not because of the local lukhas (Whose> ancestors were good, but not the present generation).>> regards/Bhaskar.>> , S kumar <kumar_8134@ ....>wrote:> >> > A beautifully made synopsis of Gujarati-s, perhaps the most peaceful> Community but for the Communal riots when they turn furious in a mob.> > But Mumbai has a multitude of Gujarati-s celebrating all thefestivals> and typical shops for sweets and pan!!> > Â> > In Ahmedabad, perhaps the only City where girls could

move> unmolested even at dead of night, alone. If needed they turn agressive> too as in a case where a girl regularly tailed by a boy, showed her> Karate hits and floored him in full view of public at Nehru Bridge> Corner!!> > Â> > All said and done, Gujarat is a beautiful place to live withbeautiful> roads and plenty of water and 24 hours uninterrupted power and an ever> vigilant Govt. and CM responsive to the grievances first hand.ÂÂ> >> > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > You Must Be a Gujju If.... (Non-Gujjus,please> ignore)> > > > Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:34 PM> >> >> > Â> >> >>

>> >> > (Please enjoy this with no offence to anyone intended)> > You Must Be a Gujju If... (Non-Gujjus, please ignore)> > - You have at least 1 relative in the stock market.> > Â> > - You're never worried about what happens if you get stranded in> >  Ghatkopar. All you'd have to do, you know, is walk across the> road and  find a relative. (Still easier, just shout,"Mama!> Masi! Faiba! Kaka!"  a couple of times. At least one isbound to> be around.)> > Â> > - You don't worry about being stranded in New Jersey.. You've been> told  by everyone that the thing to do at such a time isto open> the  telephone directory, turn to "Shah" and call any number for> help.> > Â> > - You measure the success of a wedding by how many people

praisedthe> food.> > Â> > - You believe Narendra Modi is the solution to everything. From> your  hair to the nation's defence .> > Â> > - You understand that when someone says "Dhirajbhai no babo" or> >  "Maniben ni baby", the "baba" and "baby" in question could be40> years  old.> > Â> > - You either think the garba is the coolest thing ever, or you> wonder  why the whole world makes such a big deal out ofit.> > Â> > - No packing for any trip is complete without thepla.> > Â> > - Winter = undhiyu.> > Â> > - Summer = keri no ras.> > Â> > - Monsoon = have su karvanoo?! kai na sujhe to bhajiya sutarwana ...> > Â> > - You assume (in marital situations) that because Mara bhai na>

vevai  ni dikri na sasu gave a recommendation, the personin> question is  virtue personified.> > Â> > - You have no problems with love marriages. You just view them as> a  last resort, that's it.> > Â> > - You may not donate anything to the orphanage down the road, but> when  there's a calamity in Gujarat, you send truckloadsof> money, food and  amenities.> > Â> > - You feel a slight sense of pride in Ketan Parekh, no matter how> much  you hide it.> > Â> > - You think the G-U-J-J-U sequence in Kal Ho Na Ho was rather cool,> actually.> > Â> > - You're so attuned to smiling and laughing for no reason at any> given  social occasions, that funerals become odd for you.> (Non-Gujju  funerals, that

is. At Gujju funerals, everyonehas> the same problem, so they understand.)> > Â> > - You know what "doodh cold drink" (pronounced doodh coal dreenk)is.> > Â> > - Sunday mornings = Gathiya and jalebi.> > Â> > - if you go on a picnic, everyone brings atleast 10 foods each,which>  is bound to include dhokla, kachori, chewro, thepla, mathia,fafda> and  maybe 3-4 different athanas and fried greenchillies...> > Â> > - all the ladies compare their cell phones - Nakhia, Erecshun,> >  Mottoloro, and Semen> > Â> > - after a heavy picnic lunch, all the men say, "chalo rand (round)> >  maarine aavye"> > Â> > Â> > -- SU VAAT CHE!!> >>