Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi to all I am searching for the logic behind allocating specific number of mahadasha years in parasharti system i.e. why sun has been given 6 years or jupitor has been given 16 years or saturn has been given 19 years. Any reply? thanks Charanjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dear Kumar ji, No one will be able to give you the reply for this. But I will be able to do so as have had access to some wonderful Gurus in Jyotish. But You will have to wait for my Book to be published, which I have not yet started writing. Shall inform you of same when it is done. regards, Bhaskar. , " C Kumar " <ckumar99 wrote: > > Hi to all > > I am searching for the logic behind allocating specific number of mahadasha years in parasharti system i.e. why sun has been given 6 years or jupitor has been given 16 years or saturn has been given 19 years. > > Any reply? > > thanks > Charanjit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Dear friend, There is some explanation in Shree Rayudu's website. Please explore ! Shree Sanjay Rath in book Udu Dasa has something related on the subject. You may find Shree Rayudu's explanations as he learnt from his traditional guru convincing based on the Kal Chakra Dasa Varsa principles. Regards, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultnacy out of group is not free) , " C Kumar " <ckumar99 wrote: > > Hi to all > > I am searching for the logic behind allocating specific number of mahadasha years in parasharti system i.e. why sun has been given 6 years or jupitor has been given 16 years or saturn has been given 19 years. > > Any reply? > > thanks > Charanjit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 U must go back to some old classics and find out the same after learning sansksirt well enough we cant apply modern astronomical rules for it well how can rahu a shadow or chaya graha , mathetical point of the oOrb of the Moon be given different for the north and south points rahu gets 18, where as ketu just 7, rahu is a materialist, ketu a mokshakaraka, both have a common trait of unconventional, devious, malicious, inventive, creative, out of the bix apporaches so to understand the tatwas, the adhi devathas in them is higher level of the subject one has to study ontheir own or get answers from such, Vinay jha and suresh Babu are 2 I can suggest who can answer this for u Best wishes ________________________________ C Kumar <ckumar99 Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:50:28 PM Logic behind Mahadasha years Hi to All I am searching the logic behind the Parashar mahadasha year i.e. why Sun has got 6 years or saturn has got 19 years etc. thanks Charanjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Dear Members Namasthe, Today is the day we change our sacred threads marking the beginning of a new year. In some parts of the country and community it was yesterday. Hence, this subject and the trust that Shree Prasant Ji has placed on me is overwhelming. Frankly, speaking I had ignored this post due to its complexity and lack if interest & follow up shown by most of the members in serious astrology including those who initiate a subject. Ultimately I end wasting my time and efforts. I find no other way than to provide an explain due to encouragement from Shree Prasant. Why Planets are attributed the specified no of years in Vimshottari Dasa system?. In order to understand this one has to understand Astronomy and solar system very well. The Acharyas based their phalita & theories based on solid scientific phenomena. Since the proper explanation and understanding of this shall take lots of effort and pages, I shall try to explain it as simple as possible. When we draw a rasi chakra, we are actually drawing the perpetual position of planets as seen from earth in a circular path. However, in reality it is not so. Sun is actually stationary and it's the other planets including our earth going around it. To make the system more complex, Moon moves around the earth. These rotate on a fixed path. This is actually a 3D scenario. The rasi chakra we draw is 1D picture of the solar system. It is like what you see, when you take a circular ring with some Balls on it and then stretch and elongate it into a straight line. You will see all the balls align into a single line. Imagine more such rings. In realty these are not exact circles but oblong in shape also. The alignment of rasi chakra, stars etc are actually formed on this real position of planets and their visibility. We easily understand the Visibility of Sun, since we see Sun rising every day in the morning and sets in the evening which we name as " Udaya " and " Asthamaya " . In fact every planet has this phenomena. " Udaya " happens when we see Sun just above the horizon. Horizon is again the visible plane on the surface of our round earth. Rasi chakra as we know comprises of 27 " nakshatras " , stars as we call then in English in a group of three sets of nine each starting from Aswini in Mesha rasi, Magha in Simha rasi and Moola in Dhanu rasi. The word " Star " does not imply the real meaning of the cosmic entity fully. First of these sets are called Janma nakshatra (jama, sampat vipath etc). The timing of Vimsottari dasa are years taken by each planets to appear above horizon on these janma Nakshatras (Aswini or Magha or moola). Due to the round shape of planets and the distance involved, in order to become visible, planets has to be at a particular distance from the sun. These distances are given in surya sidhanta as follows. Moon =12Deg, Mars=17Deg, Mercury=13Deg, Jupiter=11Deg, Venus=9Deg & Saturn=15Deg. (Caveat: there could be differences due to different versions of surya sidhanta). This is only for understanding what is written below. You will see that these are also the distances (more or less) when planets become combust (Moudya), if they are within these distances. (Note that what we refer as angle (Degree) is also the distance and time). That is why Astrology is multidimensional. These are the actual cycles of the planets in real 3D motion. There will be sight difference in terms of days since the motion is not exactly circular. This is negligible since the difference is only like 40 days in 20 years for venus etc. if you add together these years, you get 120 (Vimshottari) – 120 X 3 = 360 degrees. So you can understand how the total degrees of a circle is based upon with respect to the actual motion, visibility of planets and converted into the maximum life span of a human being. Though I have tried to explain, this is a very complex subject and for full understanding require diagrams, statistical data and further knowledge of Solar System. Some of the above could be understood if you have astronomical softwares which give 2D & 3D live motions of planets. I use 4 such softwares for my study & work. I shall try to make a detailed write up on this later. Presently, I am engaged in other works and shall take some time. If you have further doubts feel free to ask. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > U must go back to some old classics and find out the same after learning sansksirt well enough > > we cant apply modern astronomical rules for it > > well how can rahu a shadow or chaya graha , mathetical point of the oOrb of the Moon be given different for the north and south points > rahu gets 18, where as ketu just 7, > > rahu is a materialist, ketu a mokshakaraka, > > > both have a common trait of unconventional, devious, malicious, inventive, creative, out of the bix apporaches > > so to understand the tatwas, the adhi devathas in them is higher level of the subject one has to study ontheir own or get answers from such, Vinay jha and suresh Babu are 2 I can suggest who can answer this for u > > Best wishes > > > > > > ________________________________ > C Kumar <ckumar99 > > Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:50:28 PM > Logic behind Mahadasha years > > > Hi to All > > I am searching the logic behind the Parashar mahadasha year i.e. why Sun has got 6 years or saturn has got 19 years etc. > > thanks > > Charanjit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 <<< I shall try to make a detailed write up on this later. >>> I am waiting, sincerely. -VJ ________________________________ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:40:20 AM Re: Logic behind Mahadasha years Dear Members Namasthe, Today is the day we change our sacred threads marking the beginning of a new year. In some parts of the country and community it was yesterday. Hence, this subject and the trust that Shree Prasant Ji has placed on me is overwhelming. Frankly, speaking I had ignored this post due to its complexity and lack if interest & follow up shown by most of the members in serious astrology including those who initiate a subject. Ultimately I end wasting my time and efforts. I find no other way than to provide an explain due to encouragement from Shree Prasant. Why Planets are attributed the specified no of years in Vimshottari Dasa system?. In order to understand this one has to understand Astronomy and solar system very well. The Acharyas based their phalita & theories based on solid scientific phenomena. Since the proper explanation and understanding of this shall take lots of effort and pages, I shall try to explain it as simple as possible. When we draw a rasi chakra, we are actually drawing the perpetual position of planets as seen from earth in a circular path. However, in reality it is not so. Sun is actually stationary and it's the other planets including our earth going around it. To make the system more complex, Moon moves around the earth. These rotate on a fixed path. This is actually a 3D scenario. The rasi chakra we draw is 1D picture of the solar system. It is like what you see, when you take a circular ring with some Balls on it and then stretch and elongate it into a straight line. You will see all the balls align into a single line. Imagine more such rings. In realty these are not exact circles but oblong in shape also. The alignment of rasi chakra, stars etc are actually formed on this real position of planets and their visibility. We easily understand the Visibility of Sun, since we see Sun rising every day in the morning and sets in the evening which we name as " Udaya " and " Asthamaya " . In fact every planet has this phenomena. " Udaya " happens when we see Sun just above the horizon. Horizon is again the visible plane on the surface of our round earth. Rasi chakra as we know comprises of 27 " nakshatras " , stars as we call then in English in a group of three sets of nine each starting from Aswini in Mesha rasi, Magha in Simha rasi and Moola in Dhanu rasi. The word " Star " does not imply the real meaning of the cosmic entity fully. First of these sets are called Janma nakshatra (jama, sampat vipath etc). The timing of Vimsottari dasa are years taken by each planets to appear above horizon on these janma Nakshatras (Aswini or Magha or moola). Due to the round shape of planets and the distance involved, in order to become visible, planets has to be at a particular distance from the sun. These distances are given in surya sidhanta as follows. Moon =12Deg, Mars=17Deg, Mercury=13Deg, Jupiter=11Deg, Venus=9Deg & Saturn=15Deg. (Caveat: there could be differences due to different versions of surya sidhanta). This is only for understanding what is written below. You will see that these are also the distances (more or less) when planets become combust (Moudya), if they are within these distances. (Note that what we refer as angle (Degree) is also the distance and time). That is why Astrology is multidimensional. These are the actual cycles of the planets in real 3D motion. There will be sight difference in terms of days since the motion is not exactly circular. This is negligible since the difference is only like 40 days in 20 years for venus etc. if you add together these years, you get 120 (Vimshottari) – 120 X 3 = 360 degrees. So you can understand how the total degrees of a circle is based upon with respect to the actual motion, visibility of planets and converted into the maximum life span of a human being. Though I have tried to explain, this is a very complex subject and for full understanding require diagrams, statistical data and further knowledge of Solar System. Some of the above could be understood if you have astronomical softwares which give 2D & 3D live motions of planets. I use 4 such softwares for my study & work. I shall try to make a detailed write up on this later. Presently, I am engaged in other works and shall take some time. If you have further doubts feel free to ask. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > U must go back to some old classics and find out the same after learning sansksirt well enough > > we cant apply modern astronomical rules for it > > well how can rahu a shadow or chaya graha , mathetical point of the oOrb of the Moon be given different for the north and south points > rahu gets 18, where as ketu just 7, > > rahu is a materialist, ketu a mokshakaraka, > > > both have a common trait of unconventional, devious, malicious, inventive, creative, out of the bix apporaches > > so to understand the tatwas, the adhi devathas in them is higher level of the subject one has to study ontheir own or get answers from such, Vinay jha and suresh Babu are 2 I can suggest who can answer this for u > > Best wishes > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > C Kumar <ckumar99@.. .> > > Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:50:28 PM > Logic behind Mahadasha years > > > Hi to All > > I am searching the logic behind the Parashar mahadasha year i.e. why Sun has got 6 years or saturn has got 19 years etc. > > thanks > > Charanjit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Read : http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Vimshottari+Dasha ________________________________ C Kumar <ckumar99 Wednesday, August 5, 2009 3:50:28 PM Logic behind Mahadasha years Hi to All I am searching the logic behind the Parashar mahadasha year i.e. why Sun has got 6 years or saturn has got 19 years etc. thanks Charanjit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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