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Dear Acharya Shushil Ji,Please explain about keeping Parrots in home and its

advantage.It is a new chapter for many members.

With regards, 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil

 

Sun, January 10, 2010 2:43:45 PM

Re: when i will get married?

 

 

The above chart is saying that At the time Sukra Dasa Budh antara is running

which is not good mean some new problums rgarding your attachment which is

facing by you but after 11-5-2010 Ketu antara will started then a person who

have some attchment with you hardly will entering in your life then you will

be marriage. and your job you feel your job is not permanent fix because in

tenth house Chandr is present which calling job is changable nor fix but you

also satisfied with that as per my reading your job field is related with

education and Communication.

Remedies keep a parrot in your home and care him.

 

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Rajinder <rajindersingh23@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

>

>

> dear all,

>

> a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> e) query - when i will get married?

> There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and 11th lord( sun)

> which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i will be

> very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage..till then i will

> be doing struggle.

> vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from royal family or

> family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is not good for

> material progress.... .is it be so?

> please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

>

> f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost very accurate..

> g) Some important events --two major accidents which i survived with gods

> grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates are 23 nov 2006

> and 23 sept 2009

> Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

>

> Thanks in advance

>

>

>

 

 

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Dear Rohini ji,

 

yes, glad to know that you know your pinches, punches & itches. Got to be in

elite group of Indians in America?

 

It surely comes in handy when no else is around also.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

When something foul is around, we pinch our nose, Shenoy_ji!

When there is an itch, we 'scratch' but never pinch!

 

At least where I come from ;-P

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>  

> Hey that is foul play.

>

> //should I pinch my nose//

>  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

>

> //In public//

>  

> Hope no one took notice

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:44 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Ouxh! You pinched me, Shenoy jee! In public ;-)

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji

> >  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:31 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > so should I pinch my nose at this point, jee? ;-)

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >  

> > > It is realy a great relief.

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:24 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You did, Shenoy jee? Sorry it was lost in the jyotish context ;-)

> > >

> > > I was feeling pretty sorry that the database you asked me about is not

being sold because of the merger etc that is going on! It seems, now, that it

would be of little use to Indians, as per your judgment!

> > >

> > > I feel a lot relieved now! I did not realize that Indians are all that

different from the human beings that are around me! Until you informed me!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > //But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.//

> > > >

> > > > That is exactly what I was drive home and other factors

asÃÆ'‚ well.

> > > >

> > > > //Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently! //

> > > >

> > > > I won't use the word ''unintelligently' ', rather I should say

" Appropriately "

> > > >

> > > > No body is that dumb, but may a little distorted.

> > > >

> > > > As for the story, what I gave you was not a " failry tale " but real life

story of a company who depended on statistics and wrong criterias and ultimately

caused damage to the shareholders.

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:54:49 PM

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Dear Suresh Shenoy jee,

> > > >

> > > > I applaud your effort (no noisy punctuation marks in your recent posting

which a student of KNR calls Andaas!) and you are right that there are

relatively few Indian data in the Astrodienst database!

> > > >

> > > > But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.

> > > >

> > > > The eastern vs western differences are really not that all that

different, trust me! I have lived very intensively and in a dedicated manner in

the East and the West. I know what I am talking about through my personal

experience!

> > > >

> > > > Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently!

> > > >

> > > > Commonsense must always remain handy! Like in that story that I told

earlier. Brilliant scientist brought his farmer father to visit his lab and

described in great details how he is planning to invent the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT!

Father was fidgeting through the mega-presentation and when it finally ended,

sheepishly asked, " Beta, where will you store this this 'university' solvent? "

<typo intentional! >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those

noisy characters,

youÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that you forgot

about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What I

am saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless

the criterias are correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or quantification

of planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its evaluation.

Sages or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of laid focus on

different aspects of life when it comes to various positions

ofÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

  planets. It is the responcibility of a serious astrologer to

understand, evaluate and give proper guidence to the natives.

> > > > >

> > > > > As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background,

particularly the culture of people whose details are included.

> > > > >

> > > > > Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to get

a divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/european s? whose

data could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell, couples

vary rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce notices

are given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat. why the sudden

increase?

> > > > >

> > > > > The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the

willingness of people to

faceÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\

šÃ‚ their onsloughts and hold on to the institution of marriage,

considered to be sacred is

lacking.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÃÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > >

> > > > > And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology

books available on the railway station stands?

> > > > >

> > > > > Just take a statistics on

theÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kind of people who pose such questions on internet.

> > > > >

> > > > > 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are

truely inclined towards it, but out their

onÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

 own fear about their life and failures in their lives. What kind of

" field of view " does it provide to them?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers like

siblings, without rivalry ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very

passionate about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

> > > > >

> > > > > I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly been

carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> > > > > Saturn in 8 will give long life

> > > > > Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> > > > > Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> > > > > Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

> > > > >

> > > > > And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

> > > > >

> > > > > But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them

astrology may just be a hobby or whatever!

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that

show up in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too!

They are almost making a signature ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the contrary, it did

madeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\

’…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€\

šÃ‚  a lot of sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After

allÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Ã\

…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ€\

šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ’Æ'‚ my business depends on Numbers,

Statistics, indices &

criterias.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÃ\

‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'âÃ\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 

> > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for

you :-(

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hear you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me

sit up straight!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to nativity,

negative or positive!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle

assumed a role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine

their roles and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ya, you

bullÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÃâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢Ã\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ eye is 19K big, still

better would be 19 billon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into

loss, where they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of

ppopulation & cable tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years

into operation and millions in loss.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They

don't get even 10% of the connections.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is statistics for you.

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\

‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

Å¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\

‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

Å¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > Suresh_jee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > there were two groups!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The population was 19K+

> > > > > > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the

original message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill

gates do the calculations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > > > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

casesÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\

€šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÃâ\

€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\

‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ãâ€\

 '…ÃÆ'‚¡Ã\

Æ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\

’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ\

€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ãâ€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚ divorced with sun in the 7th "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I do understood what you tried

toÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\

‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Â\

¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\

ƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\

Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\

'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ\

€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ'‚ convey, but was not correct. It did

just the opposit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But frankly,

doÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\

‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Â\

¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\

ƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\

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'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ\

€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ'‚ you

 

think,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\

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¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ãâ\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚ these things shall

>

helpÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââââ\

‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÃâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Ãâ\

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¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Å\

¡ÃÆ'‚ anyone?

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\

¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÆ\

’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\

†'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\

ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\

¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\

¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\

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’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\

†'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\

ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\

¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\

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ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > > > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent

incidence of divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage

in the sun in 7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

 

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We know that you have checked from a database of aprox 19500

cases.

> > > > > > > > > That converted to figures:

> > > > > > > > > Cases with sun in the 7th house

 

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> > > > > > > > > Divorce cases with sun in 7th (3.1586%) = 615

> > > > > > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the

7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45%

of them had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the hearts

of the public

 

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> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

 

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> > > > > > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic

astrology saying that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher

status family. I had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through

marriage category

> > > > > > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits

the road... " !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and

11th lord( sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i

will be very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage..till then i

will be doing struggle.

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from

royal family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is

not good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost

very accurate..

> > > > > > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i

survived with gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates

are 23 nov 2006 and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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Dear Members,

Pinch,Itch and scratch will not help some body who is looking ahead for

marraige.

Not necessary people ill always same kind of understanding and  give guidance

what one wants and awaits from all of us. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:19 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rohini ji,

 

yes, glad to know that you know your pinches, punches & itches. Got to be in

elite group of Indians in America?

 

It surely comes in handy when no else is around also.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

 

 

When something foul is around, we pinch our nose, Shenoy_ji!

When there is an itch, we 'scratch' but never pinch!

 

At least where I come from ;-P

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>  

> Hey that is foul play.

>

> //should I pinch my nose//

>  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

>

> //In public//

>  

> Hope no one took notice

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:44 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Ouxh! You pinched me, Shenoy jee! In public ;-)

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji

> >  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:31 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > so should I pinch my nose at this point, jee? ;-)

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >  

> > > It is realy a great relief.

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:24 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You did, Shenoy jee? Sorry it was lost in the jyotish context ;-)

> > >

> > > I was feeling pretty sorry that the database you asked me about is not

being sold because of the merger etc that is going on! It seems, now, that it

would be of little use to Indians, as per your judgment!

> > >

> > > I feel a lot relieved now! I did not realize that Indians are all that

different from the human beings that are around me! Until you informed me!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > //But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.//

> > > >

> > > > That is exactly what I was drive home and other factors

asÃÆ'‚ well.

> > > >

> > > > //Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently! //

> > > >

> > > > I won't use the word ''unintelligently' ', rather I should say

" Appropriately "

> > > >

> > > > No body is that dumb, but may a little distorted.

> > > >

> > > > As for the story, what I gave you was not a " failry tale " but real life

story of a company who depended on statistics and wrong criterias and ultimately

caused damage to the shareholders.

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:54:49 PM

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Dear Suresh Shenoy jee,

> > > >

> > > > I applaud your effort (no noisy punctuation marks in your recent posting

which a student of KNR calls Andaas!) and you are right that there are

relatively few Indian data in the Astrodienst database!

> > > >

> > > > But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.

> > > >

> > > > The eastern vs western differences are really not that all that

different, trust me! I have lived very intensively and in a dedicated manner in

the East and the West. I know what I am talking about through my personal

experience!

> > > >

> > > > Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently!

> > > >

> > > > Commonsense must always remain handy! Like in that story that I told

earlier. Brilliant scientist brought his farmer father to visit his lab and

described in great details how he is planning to invent the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT!

Father was fidgeting through the mega-presentation and when it finally ended,

sheepishly asked, " Beta, where will you store this this 'university' solvent? "

<typo intentional! >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those

noisy characters,

youÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that you forgot

about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What I

am saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless

the criterias are correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or quantification

of planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its evaluation.

Sages or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of laid focus on

different aspects of life when it comes to various positions

ofÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

  planets. It is the responcibility of a serious astrologer to

understand, evaluate and give proper guidence to the natives.

> > > > >

> > > > > As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background,

particularly the culture of people whose details are included.

> > > > >

> > > > > Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to get

a divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/european s? whose

data could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell, couples

vary rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce notices

are given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat.. why the sudden

increase?

> > > > >

> > > > > The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the

willingness of people to

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considered to be sacred is

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¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > >

> > > > > And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology

books available on the railway station stands?

> > > > >

> > > > > Just take a statistics on

theÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kind of people who pose such questions on internet.

> > > > >

> > > > > 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are

truely inclined towards it, but out their

onÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

 own fear about their life and failures in their lives. What kind of

" field of view " does it provide to them?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers like

siblings, without rivalry ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very

passionate about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

> > > > >

> > > > > I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly been

carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> > > > > Saturn in 8 will give long life

> > > > > Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> > > > > Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> > > > > Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

> > > > >

> > > > > And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

> > > > >

> > > > > But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them

astrology may just be a hobby or whatever!

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that

show up in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too!

They are almost making a signature ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the contrary, it did

madeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\

’…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€\

šÃ‚  a lot of sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After

allÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Ã\

…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ€\

šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ’Æ'‚ my business depends on Numbers,

Statistics, indices &

criterias.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÃ\

‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'âÃ\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 

> > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for

you :-(

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hear you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me

sit up straight!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to nativity,

negative or positive!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle

assumed a role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine

their roles and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ya, you

bullÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÃâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢Ã\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ eye is 19K big, still

better would be 19 billon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into

loss, where they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of

ppopulation & cable tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years

into operation and millions in loss.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They

don't get even 10% of the connections.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is statistics for you.

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

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Å¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

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Å¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > Suresh_jee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > there were two groups!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The population was 19K+

> > > > > > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the

original message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill

gates do the calculations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > > > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I do understood what you tried

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¡ÃƒÆ'‚ convey, but was not correct. It did

just the opposit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But frankly,

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> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > > > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent

incidence of divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage

in the sun in 7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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which is well known fact. But does it always.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You

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ƒÆ’Æ'‚ presented a statistical figure with

good intentions. But what does it indicate?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We know that you have checked from a database of aprox 19500

cases.

> > > > > > > > > That converted to figures:

> > > > > > > > > Cases with sun in the 7th house

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> > > > > > > > > Divorce cases with sun in 7th (3.1586%) = 615

> > > > > > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the

7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45%

of them had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the hearts

of the public

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> >

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> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic

astrology saying that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher

status family. I had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through

marriage category

> > > > > > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits

the road... " !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and

11th lord( sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i

will be very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage...till then i

will be doing struggle.

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from

royal family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is

not good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost

very accurate..

> > > > > > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i

survived with gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates

are 23 nov 2006 and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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It is to strengthen mercury and have a proper assessment of the condition.It is

often suggested eithr to keep or liberate the parrot into nature.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Acharya Shushil Ji,Please explain about keeping Parrots in home and its

advantage.It is a new chapter for many members.

With regards, 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil@ gmail.com>

 

Sun, January 10, 2010 2:43:45 PM

Re: when i will get married?

 

 

The above chart is saying that At the time Sukra Dasa Budh antara is running

which is not good mean some new problums rgarding your attachment which is

facing by you but after 11-5-2010 Ketu antara will started then a person who

have some attchment with you hardly will entering in your life then you will

be marriage. and your job you feel your job is not permanent fix because in

tenth house Chandr is present which calling job is changable nor fix but you

also satisfied with that as per my reading your job field is related with

education and Communication.

Remedies keep a parrot in your home and care him.

 

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Rajinder <rajindersingh23@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

>

>

> dear all,

>

> a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> e) query - when i will get married?

> There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and 11th lord( sun)

> which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i will be

> very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage..till then i will

> be doing struggle.

> vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from royal family or

> family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is not good for

> material progress.... .is it be so?

> please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

>

> f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost very accurate...

> g) Some important events --two major accidents which i survived with gods

> grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates are 23 nov 2006

> and 23 sept 2009

> Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

>

> Thanks in advance

>

>

>

 

 

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Dear Krishna ji,

 

That exactly  is what I was  trying to point out throughout these

messages.

 

There is no point in creating further confusion in the people. They seek advice

, sometimes on wrong notions also. If you can,correct them and give proper

advice. Otherwise, leave the matter alone.

 

 

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sun, January 10, 2010 8:29:20 PM

Re: Re: when i will get married?

 

 

Dear Members,

Pinch,Itch and scratch will not help some body who is looking ahead for

marraige.

Not necessary people ill always same kind of understanding and  give guidance

what one wants and awaits from all of us. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:19 AM

 

 

 

Dear Rohini ji,

 

yes, glad to know that you know your pinches, punches & itches. Got to be in

elite group of Indians in America?

 

It surely comes in handy when no else is around also.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

 

 

When something foul is around, we pinch our nose, Shenoy_ji!

When there is an itch, we 'scratch' but never pinch!

 

At least where I come from ;-P

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>  

> Hey that is foul play.

>

> //should I pinch my nose//

>  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

>

> //In public//

>  

> Hope no one took notice

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:44 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Ouxh! You pinched me, Shenoy jee! In public ;-)

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji

> >  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:31 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > so should I pinch my nose at this point, jee? ;-)

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >  

> > > It is realy a great relief.

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:24 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You did, Shenoy jee? Sorry it was lost in the jyotish context ;-)

> > >

> > > I was feeling pretty sorry that the database you asked me about is not

being sold because of the merger etc that is going on! It seems, now, that it

would be of little use to Indians, as per your judgment!

> > >

> > > I feel a lot relieved now! I did not realize that Indians are all that

different from the human beings that are around me! Until you informed me!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > //But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.//

> > > >

> > > > That is exactly what I was drive home and other factors

asÃÆ'‚ well.

> > > >

> > > > //Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently! //

> > > >

> > > > I won't use the word ''unintelligently' ', rather I should say

" Appropriately "

> > > >

> > > > No body is that dumb, but may a little distorted.

> > > >

> > > > As for the story, what I gave you was not a " failry tale " but real life

story of a company who depended on statistics and wrong criterias and ultimately

caused damage to the shareholders.

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:54:49 PM

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Dear Suresh Shenoy jee,

> > > >

> > > > I applaud your effort (no noisy punctuation marks in your recent posting

which a student of KNR calls Andaas!) and you are right that there are

relatively few Indian data in the Astrodienst database!

> > > >

> > > > But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.

> > > >

> > > > The eastern vs western differences are really not that all that

different, trust me! I have lived very intensively and in a dedicated manner in

the East and the West. I know what I am talking about through my personal

experience!

> > > >

> > > > Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently!

> > > >

> > > > Commonsense must always remain handy! Like in that story that I told

earlier. Brilliant scientist brought his farmer father to visit his lab and

described in great details how he is planning to invent the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT!

Father was fidgeting through the mega-presentation and when it finally ended,

sheepishly asked, " Beta, where will you store this this 'university' solvent? "

<typo intentional! >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those

noisy characters,

youÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that you forgot

about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What I

am saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless

the criterias are correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or quantification

of planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its evaluation.

Sages or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of laid focus on

different aspects of life when it comes to various positions

ofÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

  planets. It is the responcibility of a serious astrologer to

understand, evaluate and give proper guidence to the natives.

> > > > >

> > > > > As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background,

particularly the culture of people whose details are included.

> > > > >

> > > > > Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to get

a divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/european s? whose

data could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell, couples

vary rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce notices

are given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat.. why the sudden

increase?

> > > > >

> > > > > The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the

willingness of people to

faceÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\

šÃ‚ their onsloughts and hold on to the institution of marriage,

considered to be sacred is

lacking.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÃÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > >

> > > > > And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology

books available on the railway station stands?

> > > > >

> > > > > Just take a statistics on

theÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kind of people who pose such questions on internet.

> > > > >

> > > > > 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are

truely inclined towards it, but out their

onÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

 own fear about their life and failures in their lives. What kind of

" field of view " does it provide to them?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers like

siblings, without rivalry ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very

passionate about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

> > > > >

> > > > > I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly been

carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> > > > > Saturn in 8 will give long life

> > > > > Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> > > > > Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> > > > > Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

> > > > >

> > > > > And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

> > > > >

> > > > > But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them

astrology may just be a hobby or whatever!

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that

show up in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too!

They are almost making a signature ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the contrary, it did

madeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\

’…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€\

šÃ‚  a lot of sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After

allÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Ã\

…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ€\

šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ’Æ'‚ my business depends on Numbers,

Statistics, indices &

criterias.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÃ\

‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'âÃ\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 

> > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for

you :-(

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hear you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me

sit up straight!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to nativity,

negative or positive!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle

assumed a role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine

their roles and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ya, you

bullÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÃâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢Ã\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ eye is 19K big, still

better would be 19 billon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into

loss, where they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of

ppopulation & cable tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years

into operation and millions in loss.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They

don't get even 10% of the connections.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is statistics for you.

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

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> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > Suresh_jee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > there were two groups!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The population was 19K+

> > > > > > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the

original message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill

gates do the calculations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > > > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

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> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > > > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent

incidence of divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage

in the sun in 7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We know that you have checked from a database of aprox 19500

cases.

> > > > > > > > > That converted to figures:

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> > > > > > > > > Divorce cases with sun in 7th (3.1586%) = 615

> > > > > > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the

7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45%

of them had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the hearts

of the public

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> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic

astrology saying that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher

status family. I had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through

marriage category

> > > > > > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits

the road... " !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and

11th lord( sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i

will be very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage...till then i

will be doing struggle.

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from

royal family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is

not good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost

very accurate..

> > > > > > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i

survived with gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates

are 23 nov 2006 and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > > > >

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Sir

The Kind of logic and making the vedic sciences as questionable not really

anticipated.Any issue raised has a context for the one raising and for the one

who responds.

I have seen many people amssing sevral responses and others who are contended by

their own over all anlysis.who r v to infringe some body's freedom to think

decide and act.Always space for free will exists,continues whether some body

agrees or not.Ofcourse,while in the process of interaction v perfectly one's

ways of thinking and logic.we respect it even if it is an issue that needs wider

consultation.

most of the querants have their own ways putting things,understanding and

inferences.how can v assume and debate them and give scope for issues avoidable.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 10:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna ji,

 

That exactly  is what I was  trying to point out throughout these

messages.

 

There is no point in creating further confusion in the people. They seek advice

, sometimes on wrong notions also. If you can,correct them and give proper

advice. Otherwise, leave the matter alone.

 

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Sun, January 10, 2010 8:29:20 PM

Re: Re: when i will get married?

 

 

Dear Members,

Pinch,Itch and scratch will not help some body who is looking ahead for

marraige.

Not necessary people ill always same kind of understanding and  give guidance

what one wants and awaits from all of us. 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:19 AM

 

 

 

Dear Rohini ji,

 

yes, glad to know that you know your pinches, punches & itches. Got to be in

elite group of Indians in America?

 

It surely comes in handy when no else is around also.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:01 PM

 

 

 

When something foul is around, we pinch our nose, Shenoy_ji!

When there is an itch, we 'scratch' but never pinch!

 

At least where I come from ;-P

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>  

> Hey that is foul play.

>

> //should I pinch my nose//

>  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

>

> //In public//

>  

> Hope no one took notice

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:44 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Ouxh! You pinched me, Shenoy jee! In public ;-)

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji

> >  

> > What you pinch depends on your itch

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:31 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > so should I pinch my nose at this point, jee? ;-)

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >  

> > > It is realy a great relief.

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:24 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You did, Shenoy jee? Sorry it was lost in the jyotish context ;-)

> > >

> > > I was feeling pretty sorry that the database you asked me about is not

being sold because of the merger etc that is going on! It seems, now, that it

would be of little use to Indians, as per your judgment!

> > >

> > > I feel a lot relieved now! I did not realize that Indians are all that

different from the human beings that are around me! Until you informed me!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > >

> > > > //But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.//

> > > >

> > > > That is exactly what I was drive home and other factors

asÃÆ'‚ well.

> > > >

> > > > //Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently! //

> > > >

> > > > I won't use the word ''unintelligently' ', rather I should say

" Appropriately "

> > > >

> > > > No body is that dumb, but may a little distorted.

> > > >

> > > > As for the story, what I gave you was not a " failry tale " but real life

story of a company who depended on statistics and wrong criterias and ultimately

caused damage to the shareholders.

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:54:49 PM

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Dear Suresh Shenoy jee,

> > > >

> > > > I applaud your effort (no noisy punctuation marks in your recent posting

which a student of KNR calls Andaas!) and you are right that there are

relatively few Indian data in the Astrodienst database!

> > > >

> > > > But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.

> > > >

> > > > The eastern vs western differences are really not that all that

different, trust me! I have lived very intensively and in a dedicated manner in

the East and the West. I know what I am talking about through my personal

experience!

> > > >

> > > > Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently!

> > > >

> > > > Commonsense must always remain handy! Like in that story that I told

earlier. Brilliant scientist brought his farmer father to visit his lab and

described in great details how he is planning to invent the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT!

Father was fidgeting through the mega-presentation and when it finally ended,

sheepishly asked, " Beta, where will you store this this 'university' solvent? "

<typo intentional! >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those

noisy characters,

youÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that you forgot

about it.

> > > > >

> > > > > What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What I

am saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless

the criterias are correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or quantification

of planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its evaluation.

Sages or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of laid focus on

different aspects of life when it comes to various positions

ofÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

  planets. It is the responcibility of a serious astrologer to

understand, evaluate and give proper guidence to the natives.

> > > > >

> > > > > As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background,

particularly the culture of people whose details are included.

> > > > >

> > > > > Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to get

a divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/european s? whose

data could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell, couples

vary rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce notices

are given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat... why the sudden

increase?

> > > > >

> > > > > The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the

willingness of people to

faceÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\

šÃ‚ their onsloughts and hold on to the institution of marriage,

considered to be sacred is

lacking.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÃÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > >

> > > > > And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology

books available on the railway station stands?

> > > > >

> > > > > Just take a statistics on

theÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kind of people who pose such questions on internet.

> > > > >

> > > > > 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are

truely inclined towards it, but out their

onÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

 own fear about their life and failures in their lives. What kind of

" field of view " does it provide to them?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers like

siblings, without rivalry ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very

passionate about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

> > > > >

> > > > > I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly been

carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> > > > > Saturn in 8 will give long life

> > > > > Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> > > > > Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> > > > > Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

> > > > >

> > > > > And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

> > > > >

> > > > > But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them

astrology may just be a hobby or whatever!

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that

show up in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too!

They are almost making a signature ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On the contrary, it did

madeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\

’…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€\

šÃ‚  a lot of sense.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After

allÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Ã\

…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ€\

šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ’Æ'‚ my business depends on Numbers,

Statistics, indices &

criterias.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÃ\

‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'âÃ\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 

> > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for

you :-(

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hear you!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me

sit up straight!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to nativity,

negative or positive!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle

assumed a role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine

their roles and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ya, you

bullÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÃâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢Ã\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ eye is 19K big, still

better would be 19 billon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into

loss, where they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of

ppopulation & cable tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years

into operation and millions in loss.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They

don't get even 10% of the connections.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is statistics for you.

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\

‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

Å¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\

‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

Å¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > Suresh_jee

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > there were two groups!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The population was 19K+

> > > > > > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the

original message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill

gates do the calculations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > > > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

casesÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\

€šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÃâ\

€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\

‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ãâ€\

 '…ÃÆ'‚¡Ã\

Æ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\

’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ\

€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ãâ€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚ divorced with sun in the 7th "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I do understood what you tried

toÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\

‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Â\

¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\

ƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\

Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\

'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ\

€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ'‚ convey, but was not correct. It did

just the opposit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But frankly,

doÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\

‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Â\

¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\

ƒÆ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\

Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\

'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââââ\

€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÅÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ'‚ you

think,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\

ƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ãâ\

€ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ\

’Æ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\

Į'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'âââ\

€šÂ¬Ã‚¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âÃÂ\

¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ãâ\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚ these things shall

>

helpÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââââ\

‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÃâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚Ãâ\

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†'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\

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¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Å\

¡ÃÆ'‚ anyone?

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\

¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\

¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÆ\

’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\

†'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\

ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\

¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\

¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > > > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent

incidence of divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage

in the sun in 7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We know that you have checked from a database of aprox 19500

cases.

> > > > > > > > > That converted to figures:

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> > > > > > > > > Divorce cases with sun in 7th (3.1586%) = 615

> > > > > > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the

7th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45%

of them had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the hearts

of the public

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> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic

astrology saying that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher

status family. I had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through

marriage category

> > > > > > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits

the road... " !

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and

11th lord( sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i

will be very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage....till then i

will be doing struggle.

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from

royal family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is

not good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost

very accurate..

> > > > > > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i

survived with gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates

are 23 nov 2006 and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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Sir,

It is great; i have come across this remedy 2nd time. Once from a great lalkitab

scholar and second time here.

Liberating the birds works wonders for Mercury in 12th house.

Keeping a Parrot for a native with Mercury in 4th house can be extremely

dangerous.(lalkitab view point)

 

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Sun, 10 Jan 2010 8:40 pm

Re: when i will get married?

 

 

 

 

 

It is to strengthen mercury and have a proper assessment of the condition.It is

often suggested eithr to keep or liberate the parrot into nature.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra

Re: when i will get married?

 

Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:15 AM

 

 

 

Dear Acharya Shushil Ji,Please explain about keeping Parrots in home and its

advantage.It is a new chapter for many members.

With regards,

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil@ gmail.com>

 

Sun, January 10, 2010 2:43:45 PM

Re: when i will get married?

 

 

The above chart is saying that At the time Sukra Dasa Budh antara is running

which is not good mean some new problums rgarding your attachment which is

facing by you but after 11-5-2010 Ketu antara will started then a person who

have some attchment with you hardly will entering in your life then you will

be marriage. and your job you feel your job is not permanent fix because in

tenth house Chandr is present which calling job is changable nor fix but you

also satisfied with that as per my reading your job field is related with

education and Communication.

Remedies keep a parrot in your home and care him.

 

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Rajinder <rajindersingh23@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

>

>

> dear all,

>

> a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> e) query - when i will get married?

> There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and 11th lord( sun)

> which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i will be

> very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage..till then i will

> be doing struggle.

> vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from royal family or

> family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is not good for

> material progress.... .is it be so?

> please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

>

> f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost very accurate...

> g) Some important events --two major accidents which i survived with gods

> grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates are 23 nov 2006

> and 23 sept 2009

> Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

>

> Thanks in advance

>

>

>

 

 

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Dada,

 

He started it (pointing at Sureshbabu)!

He forgot to change the batteries in his calculator :-)

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

> Pinch,Itch and scratch will not help some body who is looking ahead for

marraige.

> Not necessary people ill always same kind of understanding and  give guidance

what one wants and awaits from all of us. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

> Re: Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:19 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>  

> yes, glad to know that you know your pinches, punches & itches. Got to be in

elite group of Indians in America?

>  

> It surely comes in handy when no else is around also.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:01 PM

>

>  

>

> When something foul is around, we pinch our nose, Shenoy_ji!

> When there is an itch, we 'scratch' but never pinch!

>

> At least where I come from ;-P

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji,

> >  

> > Hey that is foul play.

> >

> > //should I pinch my nose//

> >  

> > > What you pinch depends on your itch

> >

> > //In public//

> >  

> > Hope no one took notice

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:44 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Ouxh! You pinched me, Shenoy jee! In public ;-)

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji

> > >  

> > > What you pinch depends on your itch

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:31 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > so should I pinch my nose at this point, jee? ;-)

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > It is realy a great relief.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:24 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You did, Shenoy jee? Sorry it was lost in the jyotish context ;-)

> > > >

> > > > I was feeling pretty sorry that the database you asked me about is not

being sold because of the merger etc that is going on! It seems, now, that it

would be of little use to Indians, as per your judgment!

> > > >

> > > > I feel a lot relieved now! I did not realize that Indians are all that

different from the human beings that are around me! Until you informed me!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into

effect.//

> > > > >

> > > > > That is exactly what I was drive home and other factors

asÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ well.

> > > > >

> > > > > //Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently! //

> > > > >

> > > > > I won't use the word ''unintelligently' ', rather I should say

" Appropriately "

> > > > >

> > > > > No body is that dumb, but may a little distorted.

> > > > >

> > > > > As for the story, what I gave you was not a " failry tale " but real

life story of a company who depended on statistics and wrong criterias and

ultimately caused damage to the shareholders.

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:54:49 PM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > Dear Suresh Shenoy jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > I applaud your effort (no noisy punctuation marks in your recent

posting which a student of KNR calls Andaas!) and you are right that there are

relatively few Indian data in the Astrodienst database!

> > > > >

> > > > > But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.

> > > > >

> > > > > The eastern vs western differences are really not that all that

different, trust me! I have lived very intensively and in a dedicated manner in

the East and the West. I know what I am talking about through my personal

experience!

> > > > >

> > > > > Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently!

> > > > >

> > > > > Commonsense must always remain handy! Like in that story that I told

earlier. Brilliant scientist brought his farmer father to visit his lab and

described in great details how he is planning to invent the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT!

Father was fidgeting through the mega-presentation and when it finally ended,

sheepishly asked, " Beta, where will you store this this 'university' solvent? "

<typo intentional! >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those

noisy characters,

youÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that you forgot

about it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What

I am saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless

the criterias are correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or

quantification of planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its

evaluation. Sages or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of

laid focus on different aspects of life when it comes to various positions

ofÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

  planets. It is the responcibility of a serious astrologer to

understand, evaluate and give proper guidence to the natives.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background,

particularly the culture of people whose details are included.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to

get a divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/european s?

whose data could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell,

couples vary rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce

notices are given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat.. why the

sudden increase?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the

willingness of people to

faceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€\

šÃ‚ their onsloughts and hold on to the institution of marriage,

considered to be sacred is

lacking.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'Ã\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ 

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology

books available on the railway station stands?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just take a statistics on

theÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Å\

¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kind of people who pose such questions on internet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are

truely inclined towards it, but out their

onÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 own fear about their life and failures in their lives. What kind of

" field of view " does it provide to them?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

‚ 

> > > > > > I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers

like siblings, without rivalry ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very

passionate about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly

been carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> > > > > > Saturn in 8 will give long life

> > > > > > Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> > > > > > Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> > > > > > Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them

astrology may just be a hobby or whatever!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that

show up in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too!

They are almost making a signature ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the contrary, it did

madeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ\

'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

Å¡ÃÆ'‚  a lot of sense.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After

allÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂÂ\

¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ my business depends on Numbers,

Statistics, indices &

criterias.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÃ\

‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'âÃ\

¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for

you :-(

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hear you!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me

sit up straight!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to

nativity, negative or positive!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle

assumed a role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine

their roles and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ya, you

bullÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\

šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\

…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\

¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\

¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ eye is 19K big, still

better would be 19 billon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into

loss, where they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of

ppopulation & cable tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years

into operation and millions in loss.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They

don't get even 10% of the connections.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That is statistics for you.

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\

€¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\

‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\

Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\

€¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\

‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\

Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > > Suresh_jee

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > there were two groups!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The population was 19K+

> > > > > > > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the

original message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill

gates do the calculations.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > > > > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

casesÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ\

€šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\

€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃ\

‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\

 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\

Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ\

'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'âââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â\

€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãâ€\

¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ divorced with sun in the 7th "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I do understood what you tried

toÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ\

¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'Ã\

ƒÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'\

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'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

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€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\

¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ convey, but was not correct. It did

just the opposit.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But frankly,

doÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\

šÂ¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

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€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\

¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ you

>

think,ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

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€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ these things shall

> >

helpÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ\

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¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ anyone?

> > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\

¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\

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ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > > > > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent

incidence of divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage

in the sun in 7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > We know that you have checked from a database of aprox 19500

cases.

> > > > > > > > > > That converted to figures:

> > > > > > > > > > Cases with sun in the 7th house

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> > > > > > > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the

7th.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45%

of them had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the

hearts of the public

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

>

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> > > > > > > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic

astrology saying that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher

status family. I had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > > > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > > > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > > > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > > > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through

marriage category

> > > > > > > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits

the road... " !

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and

11th lord( sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i

will be very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage...till then i

will be doing struggle.

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from

royal family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is

not good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost

very accurate..

> > > > > > > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i

survived with gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates

are 23 nov 2006 and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

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Mon, January 11, 2010 12:53:27 AM

Re: when i will get married?

 

 

Dada,

 

He started it (pointing at Sureshbabu)!

He forgot to change the batteries in his calculator :-)

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

> Pinch,Itch and scratch will not help some body who is looking ahead for

marraige.

> Not necessary people ill always same kind of understanding and  give

guidance what one wants and awaits from all of us. 

>

> Vattem Krishnan

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>  

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...>

> Re: Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 7:19 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>  

> yes, glad to know that you know your pinches, punches & itches. Got to be in

elite group of Indians in America?

>  

> It surely comes in handy when no else is around also.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> Re: when i will get married?

>

> Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:01 PM

>

>  

>

> When something foul is around, we pinch our nose, Shenoy_ji!

> When there is an itch, we 'scratch' but never pinch!

>

> At least where I come from ;-P

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji,

> >  

> > Hey that is foul play.

> >

> > //should I pinch my nose//

> >  

> > > What you pinch depends on your itch

> >

> > //In public//

> >  

> > Hope no one took notice

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:44 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Ouxh! You pinched me, Shenoy jee! In public ;-)

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji

> > >  

> > > What you pinch depends on your itch

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:31 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > so should I pinch my nose at this point, jee? ;-)

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > It is realy a great relief.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 1/10/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, January 10, 2010, 4:24 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You did, Shenoy jee? Sorry it was lost in the jyotish context ;-)

> > > >

> > > > I was feeling pretty sorry that the database you asked me about is not

being sold because of the merger etc that is going on! It seems, now, that it

would be of little use to Indians, as per your judgment!

> > > >

> > > > I feel a lot relieved now! I did not realize that Indians are all that

different from the human beings that are around me! Until you informed me!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into

effect.//

> > > > >

> > > > > That is exactly what I was drive home and other factors

asÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â\

 well.

> > > > >

> > > > > //Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently! //

> > > > >

> > > > > I won't use the word ''unintelligently' ', rather I should say

" Appropriately "

> > > > >

> > > > > No body is that dumb, but may a little distorted.

> > > > >

> > > > > As for the story, what I gave you was not a " failry tale " but real

life story of a company who depended on statistics and wrong criterias and

ultimately caused damage to the shareholders.

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:54:49 PM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚ 

> > > > > Dear Suresh Shenoy jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > I applaud your effort (no noisy punctuation marks in your recent

posting which a student of KNR calls Andaas!) and you are right that there are

relatively few Indian data in the Astrodienst database!

> > > > >

> > > > > But that is where desh kaal paatra considerations come into effect.

> > > > >

> > > > > The eastern vs western differences are really not that all that

different, trust me! I have lived very intensively and in a dedicated manner in

the East and the West. I know what I am talking about through my personal

experience!

> > > > >

> > > > > Numbers only decive when you use them unintelligently!

> > > > >

> > > > > Commonsense must always remain handy! Like in that story that I told

earlier. Brilliant scientist brought his farmer father to visit his lab and

described in great details how he is planning to invent the UNIVERSAL SOLVENT!

Father was fidgeting through the mega-presentation and when it finally ended,

sheepishly asked, " Beta, where will you store this this 'university' solvent? "

<typo intentional! >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those

noisy characters,

youÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Ã\

…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that

you forgot about it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What

I am saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless

the criterias are correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or

quantification of planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its

evaluation. Sages or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of

laid focus on different aspects of life when it comes to various positions

ofÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÃ\

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¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚  planets. It is the responcibility of a serious astrologer

to understand, evaluate and give proper guidence to the natives.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background,

particularly the culture of people whose details are included.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to

get a divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/european s?

whose data could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell,

couples vary rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce

notices are given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat.. why the

sudden increase?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the

willingness of people to

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šÃ‚ their onsloughts and hold on to the institution of

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology

books available on the railway station stands?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just take a statistics on

theÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\

…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â€Ã\

…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kind of people who pose such questions on internet.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are

truely inclined towards it, but out their

onÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÃ\

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¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ own fear about their life and failures in their lives.

What kind of " field of view " does it provide to them?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

 

> > > > > > I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers

like siblings, without rivalry ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very

passionate about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly

been carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> > > > > > Saturn in 8 will give long life

> > > > > > Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> > > > > > Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> > > > > > Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them

astrology may just be a hobby or whatever!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that

show up in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too!

They are almost making a signature ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On the contrary, it did

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

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> > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for

you :-(

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hear you!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me

sit up straight!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to

nativity, negative or positive!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle

assumed a role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine

their roles and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ya, you

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¡ÃÆ'‚ eye is 19K big, still better would

be 19 billon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into

loss, where they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of

ppopulation & cable tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years

into operation and millions in loss.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They

don't get even 10% of the connections.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That is statistics for you.

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > > > > Suresh_jee

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > there were two groups!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The population was 19K+

> > > > > > > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the

original message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill

gates do the calculations.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > > > > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

 

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I do understood what you tried

 

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But frankly,

 

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> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

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> > > > > > > > > Suresh jee,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > > > > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent

incidence of divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage

in the sun in 7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

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> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

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> > > > > > > > > > That converted to figures:

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> > > > > > > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45%

of them had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the

hearts of the public

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> > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

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> > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: when i will get married?

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> > > > > > > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic

astrology saying that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher

status family. I had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > > > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > > > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > > > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > > > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through

marriage category

> > > > > > > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits

the road... " !

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and

11th lord( sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i

will be very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage...till then i

will be doing struggle.

> > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from

royal family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is

not good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost

very accurate..

> > > > > > > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i

survived with gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates

are 23 nov 2006 and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

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> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance

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