Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear All Respected Friends, Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. Kindly advise! Here is my personal birth info, please check: Birthplace: Hong Kong Birthdate: 31-03-1990 Birth time: 05:27 AM Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! Best, Best Regards, Blessings, Tung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear So Chi Tung, There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333 wrote: > > Dear Respected Friends, > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > Birthplace: Hong Kong > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > Birth time: 05:27 AM > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > Best, Best Regards, > Blessings, > Tung. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dear A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy Thank you so much for your informative reply, with useful advice. May I know when has been the start of and will be the end of the rahu mahadasha on my birthchart, please? What is more, what can I wear on my body,like yantra, gems, and/or specific ornaments, to get protection from this dasha, please? Is Rahu the only one planet malefic on my chart, please? DO you recommend a rahu yantra to wear, please? Can a rahu yantra increase its benefits during this dasha, please? Kindly advise in further, thank you so much! Best of Best Regardsm Tung. --- 2010å¹´4月10æ—¥ 星期å…，Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag 寫é“﹕ 寄件人: Suresh Babu <sureshbabuag 主題: Re: Need Help here, please! 收件人: 日期: 2010å¹´4月10æ—¥,星期å…,下åˆ7:54  Dear So Chi Tung, There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Respected Friends, > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > Birthplace: Hong Kong > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > Birth time: 05:27 AM > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > Best, Best Regards, > Blessings, > Tung. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > Blessings, > > Tung. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM Re: Need Help here, please! I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > Blessings, > > Tung. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh?? Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > Blessings, > > > Tung. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 rohini jee, no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM Re: Need Help here, please! I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > Blessings, > > > Tung. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Dear sirs jee, It appears that KSY has become more popular and fashionable than Sade Sati etc. What I say that these yogas are unimportant for prediction because any bad or good things genrally said about the KSY native can be easily analysed by the study of chart.Why generalise and terrorise. Inder , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > Blessings, > > > Tung. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 SiRR Ji, //Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-)// I beg to differ " *Taqdeer banane wale tune kami na ki ab** **kisko kya mila** **yeh** **muqaddar ki baat hai " * * * ***I downloaded my copy of Jyotish Primer just today morning.* * * *Regards* *kulbir. * ** On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:34 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine > back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian > Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). > Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and > immediate feedback or criticism! > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > GOOD they have it today! :-) > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > rohini jee, > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > Blessings, > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Inder jee, I don't know what you intended to imply, but where did you see this " generalisation " and 'terrorisation' in my post? Please elaborate! In fact if the KSY effect can be read elsewhere in the chart, then THAT would be an example of 'generalisation' as opposed to 'specifically' related to KSY. I think you are mixing up your 'jyotishis', please be careful next time :-) Also, the best way to deal with 'fear' is to face it. Hiding all KSY postings under the rug is the way of the ostrich! Rohiniranjan , " inder " <indervohra2001 wrote: > > Dear sirs jee, > It appears that KSY has become more popular and fashionable than Sade Sati etc. > What I say that these yogas are unimportant for prediction because any bad or good things genrally said about the KSY native can be easily analysed by the study of chart.Why generalise and terrorise. > Inder > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > Blessings, > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Yes Kulbir praaji, but still you must admit that the ready access of internet, search engines, sites for sharing information have made access to information, research, birthdata etc many times easier than when I was younger. Of course all of this needs to be intelligently and critically examined. With increased access, increased bravado and tall claims have also increased, as we see all the time ;-) RR_. , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote: > > SiRR Ji, //Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no > internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > GOOD they have it today! :-)// > > I beg to differ > " *Taqdeer banane wale tune kami na ki ab** **kisko kya mila** **yeh** > **muqaddar > ki baat hai " * > * > * > ***I downloaded my copy of Jyotish Primer just today morning.* > * > * > *Regards* > *kulbir. > * > > ** > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:34 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine > > back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian > > Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). > > Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and > > immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Rohini jee, I have read the said article in Astrological Magazine. But could not justify the logic nor its effects to name them as special yogas. If one has the inclination, he can create names for each condition in Astrology and call them as yogas, like if lagna lord is in the 8th. And after a few years there would certainly be a group of people who go by those yogas. However the fact remains that they are only fundamental principles in a new bottle, but those new breed may be reluctant to accept this fact. It is possible that this KSY originated from Tamil works. I am not very sure. I may have the said copy of AM. I have long since discontinued reading such magazines or to be frank, never liked the logic used by Dr.B.V.Raman. I always felt it a round about way of looking at charts and events. This could be because, whenever I tried such logic during discussions with my Guruji, he used smile and point out simple & direct factors. If you ask any traditional astrologer(in Kerala) who comes from a Parampara worth mentioning, about this Yoga, they will only blink their eyes. The maximum, they shall speak is about the Sarpa yoga, which is essentially a bandhana yoga written by Varaha Mihira. But new age astrologers who have access to such magazines and english knowing community, may be aware of such references and even use them to their advantage. One of the reason may be due to the fact, Sarpa or its " dosha " has a special meaning & relevance to the people of Kerala and the afflictions, grace, curse and remedy are a normal thing. Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu). If you want I shall try to find it (in a pile of books- shall take some time). A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 9:47:28 PM Re: Need Help here, please! I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > rohini jee, > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > Blessings, > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 No no, I could find in my pile too, if necessary :-) For what it is worth, I am always amused by the strong reaction and polarity the two rogues: KSY and Sade sathi bring into play! Over the past few decades, I have written many articles and series for these (and similar magazines and journals etc eastern and western) and have always been a bit concerned about the insistence of the editors that articles should be aimed at beginners. According to me, the beginners should stay away from magazines and first get the fundamentals under their belts by studying standard texts (starting with the ancient ones and moving forward in time!) :-) RR , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Rohini jee, I have read the said article in Astrological Magazine. But could not justify the logic nor its effects to name them as special yogas. If one has the inclination, he can create names for each condition in Astrology and call them as yogas, like if lagna lord is in the 8th. And after a few years there would certainly be a group of people who go by those yogas. However the fact remains that they are only fundamental principles in a new bottle, but those new breed may be reluctant to accept this fact. > > It is possible that this KSY originated from Tamil works. I am not very sure. I may have the said copy of AM. I have long since discontinued reading such magazines or to be frank, never liked the logic used by Dr.B.V.Raman. I always felt it a round about way of looking at charts and events. This could be because, whenever I tried such logic during discussions with my Guruji, he used smile and point out simple & direct factors. > > If you ask any traditional astrologer(in Kerala) who comes from a Parampara worth mentioning, about this Yoga, they will only blink their eyes. The maximum, they shall speak is about the Sarpa yoga, which is essentially a bandhana yoga written by Varaha Mihira. But new age astrologers who have access to such magazines and english knowing community, may be aware of such references and even use them to their advantage. > > One of the reason may be due to the fact, Sarpa or its " dosha " has a special meaning & relevance to the people of Kerala and the afflictions, grace, curse and remedy are a normal thing. Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu). > > If you want I shall try to find it (in a pile of books- shall take some time). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:47:28 PM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > rohini jee, > > > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Every thing is business, jee A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 10:48:11 PM Re: Need Help here, please! No no, I could find in my pile too, if necessary :-) For what it is worth, I am always amused by the strong reaction and polarity the two rogues: KSY and Sade sathi bring into play! Over the past few decades, I have written many articles and series for these (and similar magazines and journals etc eastern and western) and have always been a bit concerned about the insistence of the editors that articles should be aimed at beginners. According to me, the beginners should stay away from magazines and first get the fundamentals under their belts by studying standard texts (starting with the ancient ones and moving forward in time!) :-) RR , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Rohini jee, I have read the said article in Astrological Magazine. But could not justify the logic nor its effects to name them as special yogas. If one has the inclination, he can create names for each condition in Astrology and call them as yogas, like if lagna lord is in the 8th. And after a few years there would certainly be a group of people who go by those yogas. However the fact remains that they are only fundamental principles in a new bottle, but those new breed may be reluctant to accept this fact. > > It is possible that this KSY originated from Tamil works. I am not very sure. I may have the said copy of AM. I have long since discontinued reading such magazines or to be frank, never liked the logic used by Dr.B.V.Raman. I always felt it a round about way of looking at charts and events. This could be because, whenever I tried such logic during discussions with my Guruji, he used smile and point out simple & direct factors. > > If you ask any traditional astrologer(in Kerala) who comes from a Parampara worth mentioning, about this Yoga, they will only blink their eyes. The maximum, they shall speak is about the Sarpa yoga, which is essentially a bandhana yoga written by Varaha Mihira. But new age astrologers who have access to such magazines and english knowing community, may be aware of such references and even use them to their advantage. > > One of the reason may be due to the fact, Sarpa or its " dosha " has a special meaning & relevance to the people of Kerala and the afflictions, grace, curse and remedy are a normal thing. Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu). > > If you want I shall try to find it (in a pile of books- shall take some time). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:47:28 PM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > rohini jee, > > > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Of course books and magazines (printed) is a dying business. Maybe someone should make movies instead or audio books :-) RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Every thing is business, jee > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:48:11 PM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > No no, I could find in my pile too, if necessary :-) > > For what it is worth, I am always amused by the strong reaction and polarity the two rogues: KSY and Sade sathi bring into play! > > Over the past few decades, I have written many articles and series for these (and similar magazines and journals etc eastern and western) and have always been a bit concerned about the insistence of the editors that articles should be aimed at beginners. According to me, the beginners should stay away from magazines and first get the fundamentals under their belts by studying standard texts (starting with the ancient ones and moving forward in time!) :-) > > RR > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini jee, I have read the said article in Astrological Magazine. But could not justify the logic nor its effects to name them as special yogas. If one has the inclination, he can create names for each condition in Astrology and call them as yogas, like if lagna lord is in the 8th. And after a few years there would certainly be a group of people who go by those yogas. However the fact remains that they are only fundamental principles in a new bottle, but those new breed may be reluctant to accept this fact. > > > > It is possible that this KSY originated from Tamil works. I am not very sure. I may have the said copy of AM. I have long since discontinued reading such magazines or to be frank, never liked the logic used by Dr.B.V.Raman. I always felt it a round about way of looking at charts and events. This could be because, whenever I tried such logic during discussions with my Guruji, he used smile and point out simple & direct factors. > > > > If you ask any traditional astrologer(in Kerala) who comes from a Parampara worth mentioning, about this Yoga, they will only blink their eyes. The maximum, they shall speak is about the Sarpa yoga, which is essentially a bandhana yoga written by Varaha Mihira. But new age astrologers who have access to such magazines and english knowing community, may be aware of such references and even use them to their advantage. > > > > One of the reason may be due to the fact, Sarpa or its " dosha " has a special meaning & relevance to the people of Kerala and the afflictions, grace, curse and remedy are a normal thing. Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu). > > > > If you want I shall try to find it (in a pile of books- shall take some time). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:47:28 PM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, > > > > > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > > > > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > > > > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > > > > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > > > > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Please excuse me, if i am just barging in like this! I know it's been a while since I made a post:-( (Just been a little busy with moving, and adjusting to a new place. But, it's all been worthwhile!) I think access to many different sources of information has NOT made life easier, but confused the hell out for most of us! Too much information from several sources has made more of a challenge for my brain to filter out what I really NEED to KNOW and retain, and deciding what I need to discard. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Yes Kulbir praaji, but still you must admit that the ready access of internet, search engines, sites for sharing information have made access to information, research, birthdata etc many times easier than when I was younger. Of course all of this needs to be intelligently and critically examined. With increased access, increased bravado and tall claims have also increased, as we see all the time ;-) > > RR_. > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@> wrote: > > > > SiRR Ji, //Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no > > internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > GOOD they have it today! :-)// > > > > I beg to differ > > " *Taqdeer banane wale tune kami na ki ab** **kisko kya mila** **yeh** > > **muqaddar > > ki baat hai " * > > * > > * > > ***I downloaded my copy of Jyotish Primer just today morning.* > > * > > * > > *Regards* > > *kulbir. > > * > > > > ** > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:34 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine > > > back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian > > > Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). > > > Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and > > > immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > > GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Hello there tigress! You had been gone for a while just like a shadow! Also, you posted a quiz (#2 I think...?) but never gave the answer to that on this forum :-) You are very right about the multi-source confusion. I suppose this is one of the reasons why jyotishis prefer to put their education in the hands of ONE guru or School. I personally would go claustrophobic in such a situation, but then to each his own. I have always liked a 'matrix-type' approach rather than the other prescriptive type styles. But there is a correct format and style for everyone and no cookie-cutter, ideal approach in jyotish or any learning. My best wishes to you, as always, Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Please excuse me, if i am just barging in like this! I know it's been a while since I made a post:-( > (Just been a little busy with moving, and adjusting to a new place. But, it's all been worthwhile!) > > I think access to many different sources of information has NOT made life easier, but confused the hell out for most of us! Too much information from several sources has made more of a challenge for my brain to filter out what I really NEED to KNOW and retain, and deciding what I need to discard. > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Yes Kulbir praaji, but still you must admit that the ready access of internet, search engines, sites for sharing information have made access to information, research, birthdata etc many times easier than when I was younger. Of course all of this needs to be intelligently and critically examined. With increased access, increased bravado and tall claims have also increased, as we see all the time ;-) > > > > RR_. > > > > > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@> wrote: > > > > > > SiRR Ji, //Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no > > > internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > > GOOD they have it today! :-)// > > > > > > I beg to differ > > > " *Taqdeer banane wale tune kami na ki ab** **kisko kya mila** **yeh** > > > **muqaddar > > > ki baat hai " * > > > * > > > * > > > ***I downloaded my copy of Jyotish Primer just today morning.* > > > * > > > * > > > *Regards* > > > *kulbir. > > > * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:34 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine > > > > back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian > > > > Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). > > > > Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and > > > > immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > > > GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Information over load is inevitable.If some things of have to be delearned and other things necessary have to be accommodated for serious learning mode.the style of learning and mode is left to the individual queer about acquiring knowledge.undoubtedly the time tested mode of learning scores well over all other forms abstract learning methods. Jyotish can never be learnt if fairy tale fashion.It has to be objective and purposeful to reorient the life pattern.Many issues of Ma,Baap and karmic galore are not light hear ted nor fit for gossip.Infarct Iam always told the stage of jyotish learning and inquisitiveness about future in life happens as ordained and any attempt to pursue willingly may also not succeed unless one has the blessings of invisible force prevailing in Nature. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sun, 4/11/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Need Help here, please! Sunday, April 11, 2010, 7:09 PM  Hello there tigress! You had been gone for a while just like a shadow! Also, you posted a quiz (#2 I think...?) but never gave the answer to that on this forum :-) You are very right about the multi-source confusion. I suppose this is one of the reasons why jyotishis prefer to put their education in the hands of ONE guru or School. I personally would go claustrophobic in such a situation, but then to each his own. I have always liked a 'matrix-type' approach rather than the other prescriptive type styles. But there is a correct format and style for everyone and no cookie-cutter, ideal approach in jyotish or any learning. My best wishes to you, as always, Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > Please excuse me, if i am just barging in like this! I know it's been a while since I made a post:-( > (Just been a little busy with moving, and adjusting to a new place. But, it's all been worthwhile!) > > I think access to many different sources of information has NOT made life easier, but confused the hell out for most of us! Too much information from several sources has made more of a challenge for my brain to filter out what I really NEED to KNOW and retain, and deciding what I need to discard. > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Yes Kulbir praaji, but still you must admit that the ready access of internet, search engines, sites for sharing information have made access to information, research, birthdata etc many times easier than when I was younger. Of course all of this needs to be intelligently and critically examined. With increased access, increased bravado and tall claims have also increased, as we see all the time ;-) > > > > RR_. > > > > > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ > wrote: > > > > > > SiRR Ji, //Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no > > > internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > > GOOD they have it today! :-)// > > > > > > I beg to differ > > > " *Taqdeer banane wale tune kami na ki ab** **kisko kya mila** **yeh** > > > **muqaddar > > > ki baat hai " * > > > * > > > * > > > ***I downloaded my copy of Jyotish Primer just today morning.* > > > * > > > * > > > *Regards* > > > *kulbir. > > > * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:34 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine > > > > back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian > > > > Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). > > > > Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and > > > > immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how > > > > GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dear Friends, The issues coming to the fore in this thread are magazines can not replace the texts where fundamentals are explained in detail //first get the fundamentals under their belts by studying standard texts (starting with the ancient ones and moving forward in time!) :-)// Ofcourse studying fundamentals by way of going through classical text books has no substitute.However for a modern student ,printed versions,seminars and e magazines always provide inspiration to explore further on the subject.Their role in modern times need to be respected. 2.Some of the malefic doshas or other wise calle yogas are always misinterpreterd and given undue importance in the analysis of jyotish charts Infact existence of sarpa lok and regualr worship of nag Devata and is considered as saviour of some families and sects is a fact even now in existence. Sarpa dosha concept prevalent in some parts is a very ancient belief and probably related to topology of the places where habitation near to hills,seashores and forests is adopted.Some of the vedic rituals too suggest for sarpa pratishta.when done in a traditional way it has a way by which the worship and regular rituals are to be performed. Infact chasing sapa or killing it intentionally are abhored.when it happenes certains samskaras too bury the sarpa r not uncommon. //Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu).// > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sun, 4/11/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Need Help here, please! Sunday, April 11, 2010, 3:52 PM  Of course books and magazines (printed) is a dying business. Maybe someone should make movies instead or audio books :-) RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > Every thing is business, jee > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:48:11 PM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > No no, I could find in my pile too, if necessary :-) > > For what it is worth, I am always amused by the strong reaction and polarity the two rogues: KSY and Sade sathi bring into play! > > Over the past few decades, I have written many articles and series for these (and similar magazines and journals etc eastern and western) and have always been a bit concerned about the insistence of the editors that articles should be aimed at beginners. According to me, the beginners should stay away from magazines and first get the fundamentals under their belts by studying standard texts (starting with the ancient ones and moving forward in time!) :-) > > RR > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini jee, I have read the said article in Astrological Magazine. But could not justify the logic nor its effects to name them as special yogas. If one has the inclination, he can create names for each condition in Astrology and call them as yogas, like if lagna lord is in the 8th. And after a few years there would certainly be a group of people who go by those yogas. However the fact remains that they are only fundamental principles in a new bottle, but those new breed may be reluctant to accept this fact. > > > > It is possible that this KSY originated from Tamil works. I am not very sure. I may have the said copy of AM. I have long since discontinued reading such magazines or to be frank, never liked the logic used by Dr.B.V.Raman. I always felt it a round about way of looking at charts and events. This could be because, whenever I tried such logic during discussions with my Guruji, he used smile and point out simple & direct factors. > > > > If you ask any traditional astrologer(in Kerala) who comes from a Parampara worth mentioning, about this Yoga, they will only blink their eyes. The maximum, they shall speak is about the Sarpa yoga, which is essentially a bandhana yoga written by Varaha Mihira. But new age astrologers who have access to such magazines and english knowing community, may be aware of such references and even use them to their advantage. > > > > One of the reason may be due to the fact, Sarpa or its " dosha " has a special meaning & relevance to the people of Kerala and the afflictions, grace, curse and remedy are a normal thing. Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu). > > > > If you want I shall try to find it (in a pile of books- shall take some time). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:47:28 PM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, > > > > > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > > > > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > > > > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > > > > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > > > > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 SiRR Ji, as far as I know (my source for this is hearsay) the origin of KSY emerged from south Indian literature related to VAASTU. regards kulbir. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:47 PM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > > > I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that > article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from > ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for > sure. > > RR_, > > > <%40>, > " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > > rohini jee, > > > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and > did not mean any offense. > > > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala > being a part of it. > > > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in > the first place. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > > <%40> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological > Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from > South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other > languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the > source-slokas etc. > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and > immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize > how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by > some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of > Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside > the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend > money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you > want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in > various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara > (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place > etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide > you. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu > Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the > benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring > too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 wrong rohini jee. In India, it is still a growing business. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Mon, April 12, 2010 1:22:34 AM Re: Need Help here, please! Of course books and magazines (printed) is a dying business. Maybe someone should make movies instead or audio books :-) RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > Every thing is business, jee > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:48:11 PM > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > No no, I could find in my pile too, if necessary :-) > > For what it is worth, I am always amused by the strong reaction and polarity the two rogues: KSY and Sade sathi bring into play! > > Over the past few decades, I have written many articles and series for these (and similar magazines and journals etc eastern and western) and have always been a bit concerned about the insistence of the editors that articles should be aimed at beginners. According to me, the beginners should stay away from magazines and first get the fundamentals under their belts by studying standard texts (starting with the ancient ones and moving forward in time!) :-) > > RR > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini jee, I have read the said article in Astrological Magazine. But could not justify the logic nor its effects to name them as special yogas. If one has the inclination, he can create names for each condition in Astrology and call them as yogas, like if lagna lord is in the 8th. And after a few years there would certainly be a group of people who go by those yogas. However the fact remains that they are only fundamental principles in a new bottle, but those new breed may be reluctant to accept this fact. > > > > It is possible that this KSY originated from Tamil works. I am not very sure. I may have the said copy of AM. I have long since discontinued reading such magazines or to be frank, never liked the logic used by Dr.B.V.Raman. I always felt it a round about way of looking at charts and events. This could be because, whenever I tried such logic during discussions with my Guruji, he used smile and point out simple & direct factors. > > > > If you ask any traditional astrologer(in Kerala) who comes from a Parampara worth mentioning, about this Yoga, they will only blink their eyes. The maximum, they shall speak is about the Sarpa yoga, which is essentially a bandhana yoga written by Varaha Mihira. But new age astrologers who have access to such magazines and english knowing community, may be aware of such references and even use them to their advantage. > > > > One of the reason may be due to the fact, Sarpa or its " dosha " has a special meaning & relevance to the people of Kerala and the afflictions, grace, curse and remedy are a normal thing. Atleast 40 to 50 percent of traditional homes will a Sarpa pratishta in their homes (called Tharavadu). > > > > If you want I shall try to find it (in a pile of books- shall take some time). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:47:28 PM > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > I was just trying to a little bit precise. The impression given in that article, as I recall, was that the original concept of KSY emerged from ancient jyotish south indian literature. Probably Tamil but can't say for sure. > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, > > > > > > no need to be sorry at all, I am aware that you are only inquisitive and did not mean any offense. > > > > > > I mentioned Kerala, only because you mentioned " South India " and Kerala being a part of it. > > > > > > If you had used " Bharatvarsha " or " India " , I would not replied at all in the first place. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:24:26 AM > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > I have been away from India so long, Shenoy jee! > > > > > > Sorry if I ruffled any feathers... > > > > > > Kerala is still a part of India? Bharatvarsh? ? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > rohini jee, definitely not from Kerala (Malayalam). > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:34:41 AM > > > > Re: Need Help here, please! > > > > > > > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Dear Rohiniji, When I was saying generalisation and terrorisation , I am not atall refering to you. What I say is that many astrologers simply creat panic situation to their clients by simply pointing that she/he has KSY and great sufferings are involved due to this Yoga. Inder , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Inder jee, > > I don't know what you intended to imply, but where did you see this " generalisation " and 'terrorisation' in my post? Please elaborate! In fact if the KSY effect can be read elsewhere in the chart, then THAT would be an example of 'generalisation' as opposed to 'specifically' related to KSY. > > I think you are mixing up your 'jyotishis', please be careful next time :-) > > Also, the best way to deal with 'fear' is to face it. Hiding all KSY postings under the rug is the way of the ostrich! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " inder " <indervohra2001@> wrote: > > > > Dear sirs jee, > > It appears that KSY has become more popular and fashionable than Sade Sati etc. > > What I say that these yogas are unimportant for prediction because any bad or good things genrally said about the KSY native can be easily analysed by the study of chart.Why generalise and terrorise. > > Inder > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > I vaguely recall reading it in an article in Raman's Astrological Magazine back in the 70's or 80's that KSY was something that came from South Indian Jyotish literature (I am not even sure if it was Tamil or other languages). Of course, back then it was customary to not quote the source-slokas etc. > > > > > > Those were indeed very frustrating times and there was no internet and immediate feedback or criticism! > > > > > > These younger jyotishis (born after 60's and 70's) don't even realize how GOOD they have it today! :-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear So Chi Tung, > > > > > > > > There is nothing called Kala Sarpa Yoga. It is fiction created by some to terrorize the public. > > > > > > > > Even if we consider the condition of all the planets on one side of Rahu-Ketu Axis, this is not prevalent in your chart. Saturn is well outside the orb of Rahu by almost 19degress, that is more than half a sign (30 deg). > > > > > > > > So do not worry too much about such things and run around to spend money on rahu rings etc (another sales gimmick). It is another matter if you want to wear it as an ornament or latest fashion " in thing " . > > > > > > > > Your Rahu dasa has started and that could indicate problems in various aspects of life. There would be changes as Rahu is placed in a chara (movable) sign and in the 12th. So you may have to leave your native place etc. But overall it doesn't look very bad. > > > > > > > > Take care and work harder and god is with you to protect and guide you. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " mr_su333 " <mr_su333@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Friends, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading my questions below. Kindly advise! > > > > > > > > > > Here is my personal birth info, please check: > > > > > Birthplace: Hong Kong > > > > > Birthdate: 31-03-1990 > > > > > Birth time: 05:27 AM > > > > > Full Name: So Chi Tung. So as my family name. > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if I am involved with Kalsarpa Yoga and the Rahu Mahadasha, or any other malefic yoga. If possible, let me know of the benefic yoga on my chart too. > > > > > > > > > > What is more, even not in Kalsarp Yoga, can I wear the Kalsarp ring too, please? What positive results by wearing this ring, please? > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything else I could do to make my planets more benefic, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you sincerely for solving my problems! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Best Regards, > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > Tung. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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