Inspiring Quotes of Swami Vivekananda 24/3

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Shiva,

 

i have not taken any offense to this post but want highlight the contest max

 

Well I have defended Swami Vivekananda, B V RAMAN, Hinduism related posts in the

groups strongly and do respect the 2 names a lot, if we forget swami vivekakanda

who gave Hinduism an oxygen cylinder that is fast running out before we get a

refill soon it is a sad day a great man with great wisdom

 

similarly if we forget b v ramans work on astrology we will have little future

in astro world but for their pioneering works we may not discuss much of

hinduism ir vedanta or vedenga=jyotishya.

 

there are many posts here and debats on TV etc that use Swamis works out of

context and try do denounce astrology itself that is why I posted those

messages.

 

we have been educated with his works and have immense respect for anything of

him, sadly his home state the land of great thinkers is taken over by leftists

and is become a desert for further intellectuals from there. not sure now who

will rebuild Hinduism again, church is fast converting many tribes, castes and

Islamic numbers inIndia and world over are fast increasing.

 

Hindu pouplation is more stuck in material advancement than spiritual growth,

without this there can be no peace, harmony in families, society as such.

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

 

 

theblisswithin <theblisswithin wrote:

Learned members

I wrote that post in the hope that it might inspire some people who

come to seek queries on these forums. It was taken word by word from

the references mentioned.

Where ever there are (...) it means some lines might have been skipped

and the quote is resumed from a later point. To the best of my

knowledge everything remains unchanged from the original source.

 

I apologize, I should have written my name but didn't as it was no

personal message, just something to be shared with others in the hope

that they might like it enjoy it and perhaps feel inspired by it.

In these forums in particular where different remedies are prescribed,

the very last paragraph might be relevant too, for many.

 

My only contribution to it was the title which I think had given a

strange impression. I should have just written ' quotes from sh

vivekananda' which I am doing now, better late than never:))

 

Best Regards

Shiva

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Elaine,

>

> No i dont watch any program with adds surely soap operas r the

worst in it, I pref sports, news, discovery, NG, spend more time

onBBC, CNN, CNBC if i have time forTV but Bold and beautiful synopsis

was given to me while i was in Bangalore on a visit by my aunt said

shee this character... and that and the gist that far.

>

> I know u did not mean to but sure many others may think likewise

even partially is dreadful, i an not for any soaps, the 2 greatest

WMD's of our times are movies and TV soaps.I wish George Bush does

something here. these w WMD's have destroyed civilisations, civility,

space within family, friends, society

>

>

> well does ur rest of the post suggest that ur daughter is a model in

spite of ur shutting off some immoral doors...!

>

> and for academic reasons u cud send urs and ur daughters birth

details can just see what I/we can make of it withanydates, events

ucan connect either to my ID or group.

>

>

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Elaine Gardner <pspmomster wrote:

PLEASE Prashantji--I do NOT mean this with ANY disrespect---and

not meaning

> to continue this thread meanlessly-----

> I'm sorry, but I HAD to smile thinking of Prashantji sitting and

watching

> the Bold and the Beautiful

>

> I watched one day, MANY years ago when I was pregnant with my first

child

> (and very sick), of daytime soap operas---I'd thought MY life full

of crisis

> and chaos even then was bad, until in one day I saw:

> SO many instances of infidelity I stopped counting, 3 murders, 2 rapes,

> several murder trials in progress, a woman " coming back " from death,

> corporate and personal theft, several fights, Satan worship, a Catholic

> Priest and his Mistress lost on a desert Isle, mobsters, greed, lust,

> hate..........

> I shut off the TV, apologized to my unborn daughter and promised

her the

> world wasn't THAT bad yet!!!!

> My children tease me about this from time to time, as I wrote about

it in an

> article that was published several years ago. My eldest

daughter is now

> a professional model and singer, and hopes to one day be on

Broadway and

> possibly play in a Soap Opera. Talk about Karma.........

>

> Peace, Love, and Light to All,

> elaine

>

> On 23 Mar 2007 02:16:09 -0700, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

> wrote:

> >

> > Amitab,

> >

> > Guilt again as seen by non Vedantic thoughts is what u r trying to

> > imply....!

> >

> > as most our teachings/ sayings are Pryaschatapa will cleanse sin not

> > enhance it or cause it.

> > and if this moral firewall is not there then sure it will be no holds

> > barred contest as we see now the church made it so simple now

with too many

> > walls of sin/guilt and now broken apart due to materialism being

the fore

> > runner and all is fair and u can usurp someones wealth, life partner,

> > assets, his intellectual property whatever with no inhibitions/guilt.

> >

> > I hope u r seeing some of Ekta kapoors soap operas what do they

show just

> > brazenness, schemers, cruel women just out to destroy the other

at any cost

> > no competition to rise or a positive dimension is shown someones

hard work

> > can just be yours just by scheming not by striving.

> >

> > I hope the Bold and beautiful episodes too are not far from

reality today

> > in it a big industrialists family's 2nd generation one of them

has a girl

> > friend who after falling apart [who was pregnant too] with one of

them JUST

> > FOR REVENGE gets to hook the father and is pregnant with him as

well same

> > year. a stable marriage of 35 years and a family structure

destroyed. can

> > the mere thought of such a event not fall under sin? a would have

been

> > daughter-in-law becomes a step mother....!?

> >

> > the soap operas are not facts but still such a thing is now is

possible,

> > as stooping to conquer is our way of life.

> >

> > Similar episodes in History of Sarangadhara exist but did not

take such a

> > twist as the sense of morality [sin still prevailed] he rather

got crippled

> > by his conniving step mother whom he refused to have an affair

with and

> > spurned all her advances.

> >

> > what Swami Vivekananda must be seen in the context of his

audience. it is

> > surely valid

> >

> > there is aclear difference betwen how we see sin and the west has

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri<amitabh_shastri%40.co.uk>>

> > wrote: Would just like to summarise in one sentence - an action

becomes a

> > sin if guilt is associated with it.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Amitabh

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar <gbp_kumar%40>> wrote:

> > Member,

> >

> > as u have not signed a name below we don't kbow ur ethnicity or

spiritual

> > paths.

> > nor what u want to convey

> >

> > I can summerise this in a few lines

> >

> > starting with AHAM BRAHMA ASMI I am brahman or part of the brahman

> > whatever ur level of evolution be [mentally]. Vedenta doesnt not

classify

> > any one as sinner max the actions can be, else we wont have Valmiki,

> > Pundalik, Purundara dasa, Yogi Vemmana as saints....! life is

meant to

> > evolve and with a discriminating intellect/mind we have to.

> >

> > Swami vivekananda spoke of the quoted text in the west a broadly

Christian

> > audience and the last paragraph summerises the church's teachings

to date.

> > that we r sinners and the gods son will come and deliver us and

the latest

> > we can quote as Pope John Paul the 2nd who said Asia more so

India needs to

> > be enlightened from darkness in his last visit here.

> >

> > all our epics are pointers to this effect say the mighty ravana was

> > reduced in his valor inspite of loosing all his men still had

more power to

> > win but was overwhelmed with lowness when Sri Rama said go back come

> > tomorrow armed, the grace of life for him was his undoing., if he

simply

> > went home and came back may be cud have still been a winner so

too the other

> > rakshasas in several other Epics who had invincible powers on

small ego

> > points lost all they had won through boons

> >

> > all is in the mind is Jyotishya too we have the mind as the base

for all

> > our Yogas that is why chandra is used as a dasa's starting

points. the

> > saying when the going gets tough, the tough get going must be

seen here.

> > Mind over matter.

> >

> > Sade saat tests ones mettle stronger one who observe the prayers

or even

> > otherwise ignorant ones who with inner strength move on still win

over

> > obstacles

> >

> > astrology is a guide to see that weaker souls move back to

strenght from a

> > point of acceptance not resignation if some have gone that way

astrology is

> > not responsible for it.

> >

> > please understand vivekanands works from a western point more,

now we are

> > close to it, looaing our base due to intellectual slavery still.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > theblisswithin <theblisswithin <theblisswithin%40>>

> > wrote: Excerpts from The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda:

volume 8

> >

> > Chapter: Is Vedanta the Future Religion

> > (Lecture Delivered in San Francisco on April 8, 1900)

> >

> > ..So Vedanta knows no sin. There are mistakes but no sin; and in the

> > long run everything is going to be all right. No Satan-none of

> > this ...Vedanta believes in only one sin; only one in the world, and

> > it is this; the moment you think you are a sinner or everybody is a

> > sinner; that is sin. From that follows every other mistake or what is

> > usually called sin. There have been mistakes in our lives. But we are

> > going on. Glory be unto us that have made mistakes! Take a long look

> > at your past life. If your present condition is good, it has been

> > caused by all the past mistakes as well successes. Glory be unto

> > success! Glory be unto mistakes! Do not look back upon what has been

> > done. Go ahead!

> >

> > You see, Vedanta proposes no sin nor sinner. No God to be afraid of.

> > He is the one being of whom we shall never be afraid, because He is

> > our own Self. There is only one being of whom you cannot possibly be

> > afraid; He is that...God is man's very Self. He is that one being

> > whom you can never possibly fear.

> >

> > ...What does Vedanta teach us? In the first place, it teaches that

> > you need not even go out of yourself to know the truth. All the past

> > and all the future are here in the present. ..This present is all

> > that is. There is only the One. All is here right now. One moment in

> > the infinite time is quite as good as complete and all inclusive as

> > every other moment. All that is and was and will be is here in the

> > present. Let anybody try to imagine anything outside of it-he will

> > not succeed.

> >

> > ...Therefore Vedanta formulates, not universal brotherhood, but

> > universal oneness. I am the same was any other man, as any animal-

> > good, bad, anything. It is one body, one mind, one soul throughout.

> > Spirit never dies. ..The Universe is my body. See how it continues.

> > All minds are mine. With all feet I walk. Through all mouths I speak.

> > In everybody I reside.

> >

> > ..Whatever you dream and think of, you create. If it is hell, you die

> > and see hell. If it is evil and Satan, you get a Satan. If ghosts,

> > you get ghosts. Whatever you think, that you become. If you have to

> > think, think good thoughts, great thoughts. This taking for granted

> > that you are weak little worms! By declaring we are weak, we become

> > weak, we do not become better...What good does it to me to say that I

> > am a sinner? If I am in the dark, let me light a lamp. Yet how

> > curious is the nature of men! You tell them the truth-they do not see

> > it; they like darkness better.

> >

> > Worship everything as God-every form is His temple. All else is

> > delusion. Always look within, never without. Such is the God that

> > Vedanta preaches, and such is His worship. Naturally there is no

> > sect, no creed, no caste in Vedanta.

> >

> > ..Infinite knowledge abides within everyone in fullest measure. You

> > are not really ignorant, though you may appear to be so. You are

> > incarnations of God, all of you. You are the incarnations of the

> > Almighty, Omnipresent, Divine Principle.

> >

> > ..For thousands of years millions and millions all over the world

> > have been taught to worship the Lord of the world, the Incarnations,

> > the saviours, the prophets. They have been taught to consider

> > themselves helpless, miserable creatures and to depend upon the mercy

> > of some person or persons for salvation. There are no doubt many

> > marvelous things in such beliefs. But even at their best, they are

> > but kindergartens of religions, and they have helped but little. Men

> > are still hypnotized into abject degradation...The hour comes when

> > great men shall arise and cast off these kindergartens of religion

> > and shall make vivid and powerful the true religion, the worship of

> > the spirit by the spirit.

> >

> >

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> >

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