Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Jai Shri Krishna, Namaste Sir, As said by RR Sir, the saying (doha) NINDAK NIYARE RAKHIYE, ANGAN KUTI CHHAVAYE, BIN PANI, SABUN BINA, APAN HOTE SUHAY (THE DOHA IS SELF EXPLANATORY) iranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: Bravo Sir... ! At the risk of repeating myself (something I never do, neither in speech nor actions (NOT!) ... ;-), over the ripening season, I have become greatly attracted to the poignant verse: Ninday Niyare Raakhiye ...). The POET was right!! It is amazing that in the case of humans, the term used is aging, the general sense being that they are becoming less and less useful ...! And yet, in the case of fruits, ripening (same as aging!) is considered to increase their value and sweetness!! Little wonder, because which human being would prefer to be called " fruit " even if it increases his value and acceptability? And yet, the bitter/sour fruit amla with its respected medicinal properties (in ayurveda and also modern medicine due to its very high content of vitamin C) has something to tell too. When tasted, aamlaa is very bitter, but if one follows that up with a sip of water, it tastes sweet. It is all about relativity ... RR , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Yes Sir, > I have cooled down now, till he makes me flare up again. > If I am one fathers son,God is witness, I have never taken advantage > of any people coming on the Forums,except when they distrub me on my > personal ids for predictions I do tell them kindly that i charge Fees > for personal Consultations, which is certainly not a crime. > One cant spend 16-18 hours working for free . What will my family eat > if i do this ? What right do I have to keep a family, > marry and give birth to children if I have to do free service all the > time of the given day ...? Yet I am doing this for at least 8 hours > in a day - social service and its now showing on my depleting > finances and resources. That is still okay, but not such responses > after spending time ? > > regards, > bhaskar. > > , Bobby Mehrotra > <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > > > bhaskarji...my very sinciere request to you. do not get provoked by > jokers like vivek etc. we would always encounter such people in > life...ignore them and best ban them on the site. > > regards > > bobby > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Vivek, > > > > That was what I was speaking of to Mr.Suresh in my previous mail. > > Ungrateful Indians like you who behave wretchedly after > > receiving free advices, want to keep on coming for more and more, > > with a empty bowl in your hands which would never get filled, > because > > of the nature of the bowl holder, such Indians spoil the whole > Indian > > fraternity, with their behaviours. > > You first beg in your mails, plead and cajole for advices, > > when your work is over, you show your true colours. Your > > thread on Jyotish Ganga also has been very interesting, and you > have > > shown your mean and base nature there too, I invite those > > who are interested to witness your thread there and judge. > > > > Now regards to my giving 2 answers as free,for advertisement, > > I need not explain you, but at least I am giving something. > > (You dont deserve an explanation) > > What are you giving? You have not even paid me Rs. 1- even after > > receiving answer for more than 2 queries,(neither offered, but > > running here and there for free stuff) but now talking like a > > ungrateful wretched soul.What right have you to raise your voice ? > > And how Can a person who is always asking from people for free have > > such a INFLATED EGO ?Listen Mr.Vivek, those who take from others > > without giving, should learn to be humble, softspoken, low toned > > and unassuming. > > I may have the power to talk with you, the way you did with me, but > > You certainly do not have. Look at yourself. > > If You are so smart ,then why did your wife leave You? > > Thank God I am not your mother. You would have breast fed from me > in > > your childhood, and after your growing big, when your work is over, > > You would have sold me in the bazaar. > > Thats the opinion you are giving about yourself. > > > > My qualification to ask me, you need to rise in your stature. > > Do that then we shall talk. And dont write again to me. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " viveksiwatch " > > <viveksiwatch@> wrote: > > > > > > What are you suggesting? > > > > > > Do you give 2 answers free for social sercice? It is a business > for > > you and answering 2 questions is an advertisement. > > > > > > May I please ask what is your qualification in life to keep on > > making comments as if you know everything? > > > > > > Vivek > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dear Doulat, Thank You for your well meant advise. Thats appreciated when one remembers another. I would like to say that main to aisa Raja hoon jiske jeb mein 5 rupye ho toh bhi Raja hai aur 5 karod ho tab bhi Raja hai. Jungle mein Sher aur haathi jab chalte hain toh unke sharir par machhar baith kar 3 minute gudgudi kar lete hain. Toh bhai kar lene do, apne kya bigada. Do bail jab hal jot rahe hote hain, tab bail ke sharir par baithi cheenti agar yeh samjhe, ke woh saara bojh utha rahi hai, to samajhne do use. Bail ko toh apna kaam karte rahna hai. Mujhe bhi joh karma theek lagega soh woh karoonga. Bhagwaan saath de raha hai aap jaise shubchintakon ke dwara, yeh gyaat hota hai, usme koi shak nahi. Thanks once again. Bhaskar. , doulat <doulat1 wrote: > > Jai Shri Krishna, > > Namaste Bhaskar Sir and all repected learned members, > > Bhaskar Sir, you are really great, that eventhough u replied for Mr Vivek, earlier in some forum, still u thought for him, but after recalling about the replies made by u, it really troubled u. > > Sir, I know only one thing, that whenever the time is in persons favour, the jatak gets queries replied, remedies done by him properly and things are done in time. I thankyou Sir that even u replied my query long back, things are normal, inspite of ur busy schedule. > > > Sir, u please forget abt Mr.Vivek, let him/anyone think/say anything, The Almighty knows the reality. (Sir, main mafi chahta hoon, mai to bahut chhota hu, mujhe aise nahi bolna chahiye apko, k ap Mr.Vivek k bare mein sochna chhod dijye). > > Thankyou Sir > > doulat > > Jai Shri Krishna > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Suresh, > > Jai Shri Krishna. > > That was indeed consoling for me to, say the least. > > //I do have a few things to say in defense of Indians whom you > > perceive to be ungrateful. See, most Indians who ask questions are > > desperate, and in need of help. You can't expect a 'thank you' note > > from someone who wants to know if his child is gonna survive, right? > > Second, there are many people who find this " thank you culture " a > bit mechanical, to say the least. // > > Point well taken and seconded. No one needs a thank you. Nor > a display of such sentiments. But even a show of ingratitude hurts. > After a certain point in a mans life, he stops seeking for his wife > to be lovable, but he certainly would not > wish her to be nagging and sarcastic all the day long. > At the same time I would not say that a Thank You is a > mechancial response.It should be a rightful response which is food > to the soul of the astrologer who has spent his time. > Just like a singer may not get money for singing on the stage > but a standing ovation and sound of claps > is all that he seeks if his song has been sung well enough. > This much is expected and not wrongly so. Yet > no one demands this .Neither do I. > > //As to Indians wanting a free ride, well, what do you expect from us > > poor folks? If we were rich, do you think we'd be troubling you for > > predictions? Suffice it to say we're not in sound condition, > financial > > or otherwise, which is the reason for this desperation. // > > In the same vein, if the astrologers who were working for free here, > were rich enough, why would they be here in the first place ? > Certainly something important is missing in their lives, whichj > is the reason they have taken it upon themselves to be here, > to compensate for that soemthing lost, which may be > money, love, affection, need for company,loneliness, > companionship or a sense of being needed,whatever. So > they should also not be targetted unnecessarily. > Even they are tender hearted and need some better > responses,then what was witnessed. Even I am a Indian > and we have common problems -most of them. > > //Let's not > > fight over this anymore.// > > I do not fight over trivial matters. But they provoke such things. > And when a person is true then it hurts. > > // hope this mail has cleared things up a little. Let's pray for > better > > sense to prevail. // > > Thank You. You have been justice minded and spoken for both the > sides, which is appreciated. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " suresh1511978 " > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > Thanks for your mail. I really do understand your sentiments. > > > > Whilst I cannot defend Mr. Vivek's actions (cuz I hardly know the > > man), I do have a few things to say in defense of Indians whom you > > perceive to be ungrateful. See, most Indians who ask questions are > > desperate, and in need of help. You can't expect a 'thank you' note > > from someone who wants to know if his child is gonna survive, right? > > Second, there are many people who find this " thank you culture " a > bit > > mechanical, to say the least. > > > > For instance, I've always felt grateful to the people who've > responded > > to my queries, but I am not the type of person to show it. That's my > > nature, and if you misconstrue this as ingratitude, I am sorry about > > that. But I can only assure you and every sincere astrologer that > > there are many Indians like me out there, who have tremendous > respect > > for you, but just don't display it as openly as do the westerners. > > > > As to Indians wanting a free ride, well, what do you expect from us > > poor folks? If we were rich, do you think we'd be troubling you for > > predictions? Suffice it to say we're not in sound condition, > financial > > or otherwise, which is the reason for this desperation. And this > > shouldn't be mistaken for greed. All I am asking is, Please try to > see > > our side too, particularly when I am willing to see yours. Let's not > > fight over this anymore. > > > > I hope this mail has cleared things up a little. Let's pray for > better > > sense to prevail. > > > > Warm Regards, > > Suresh > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Suresh, > > > > > > Jai Shri Krishna, > > > > > > Since I had promised a gift of reading to mr.Vivek today, > > > I sat down to make Mr.Viveks chart,but something clicked > > > in my mind, that made me check the Past Messages from > > > " Jyotish Ganga " , and I noticed that I have already replied > > > him, and there were 12 postings connected to that thread. > > > > > > Your comments are welcome on above.. > > > In fact I would like you to put your > > > comments also connected with my reply > > > to the posting regarding preference being > > > given to westerners, and affirmations > > > from your side to my previous reply to you. > > > > > > You should have a word now for the other party too. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " suresh1511978 " > > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , doulat <doulat1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sri Kishna > > > > > Namaste All respected members > > > > > > > > > > I agree with the statement that girls are attractive for > the > > > > >Indians, but here in this even males also get queries > answered at > > > > the >earliest and again i should say it is luck of person. > > > > > > > > I think a westerner has better chances of getting his/her > queries > > > > answered, irrespective of gender. " Elaine " has been responded > to by > > > > many people, and that too in quick time, whereas Indians like > Vivek > > > > and Suresh must wait forever! So I don't think it's got > anything to do > > > > with gender, it's a normal third-world mentality to give > preference to > > > > westerners. > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Jai Shri Krishna, Namaste Bhaskar Sir, Aap pl. naraz mat hona, mera matlab apko naraz karne ko nahi tha, aap pl. meri baat ka bura na maniyega, mai to ek chhota sa admi hoon i m very sorry, for (Chhota munh badi baat) doulat Jai Shri Krishna kar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Doulat, Thank You for your well meant advise. Thats appreciated when one remembers another. I would like to say that main to aisa Raja hoon jiske jeb mein 5 rupye ho toh bhi Raja hai aur 5 karod ho tab bhi Raja hai. Jungle mein Sher aur haathi jab chalte hain toh unke sharir par machhar baith kar 3 minute gudgudi kar lete hain. Toh bhai kar lene do, apne kya bigada. Do bail jab hal jot rahe hote hain, tab bail ke sharir par baithi cheenti agar yeh samjhe, ke woh saara bojh utha rahi hai, to samajhne do use. Bail ko toh apna kaam karte rahna hai. Mujhe bhi joh karma theek lagega soh woh karoonga. Bhagwaan saath de raha hai aap jaise shubchintakon ke dwara, yeh gyaat hota hai, usme koi shak nahi. Thanks once again. Bhaskar. , doulat <doulat1 wrote: > > Jai Shri Krishna, > > Namaste Bhaskar Sir and all repected learned members, > > Bhaskar Sir, you are really great, that eventhough u replied for Mr Vivek, earlier in some forum, still u thought for him, but after recalling about the replies made by u, it really troubled u. > > Sir, I know only one thing, that whenever the time is in persons favour, the jatak gets queries replied, remedies done by him properly and things are done in time. I thankyou Sir that even u replied my query long back, things are normal, inspite of ur busy schedule. > > > Sir, u please forget abt Mr.Vivek, let him/anyone think/say anything, The Almighty knows the reality. (Sir, main mafi chahta hoon, mai to bahut chhota hu, mujhe aise nahi bolna chahiye apko, k ap Mr.Vivek k bare mein sochna chhod dijye). > > Thankyou Sir > > doulat > > Jai Shri Krishna > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Suresh, > > Jai Shri Krishna. > > That was indeed consoling for me to, say the least. > > //I do have a few things to say in defense of Indians whom you > > perceive to be ungrateful. See, most Indians who ask questions are > > desperate, and in need of help. You can't expect a 'thank you' note > > from someone who wants to know if his child is gonna survive, right? > > Second, there are many people who find this " thank you culture " a > bit mechanical, to say the least. // > > Point well taken and seconded. No one needs a thank you. Nor > a display of such sentiments. But even a show of ingratitude hurts. > After a certain point in a mans life, he stops seeking for his wife > to be lovable, but he certainly would not > wish her to be nagging and sarcastic all the day long. > At the same time I would not say that a Thank You is a > mechancial response.It should be a rightful response which is food > to the soul of the astrologer who has spent his time. > Just like a singer may not get money for singing on the stage > but a standing ovation and sound of claps > is all that he seeks if his song has been sung well enough. > This much is expected and not wrongly so. Yet > no one demands this .Neither do I. > > //As to Indians wanting a free ride, well, what do you expect from us > > poor folks? If we were rich, do you think we'd be troubling you for > > predictions? Suffice it to say we're not in sound condition, > financial > > or otherwise, which is the reason for this desperation. // > > In the same vein, if the astrologers who were working for free here, > were rich enough, why would they be here in the first place ? > Certainly something important is missing in their lives, whichj > is the reason they have taken it upon themselves to be here, > to compensate for that soemthing lost, which may be > money, love, affection, need for company,loneliness, > companionship or a sense of being needed,whatever. So > they should also not be targetted unnecessarily. > Even they are tender hearted and need some better > responses,then what was witnessed. Even I am a Indian > and we have common problems -most of them. > > //Let's not > > fight over this anymore.// > > I do not fight over trivial matters. But they provoke such things. > And when a person is true then it hurts. > > // hope this mail has cleared things up a little. Let's pray for > better > > sense to prevail. // > > Thank You. You have been justice minded and spoken for both the > sides, which is appreciated. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " suresh1511978 " > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > Thanks for your mail. I really do understand your sentiments. > > > > Whilst I cannot defend Mr. Vivek's actions (cuz I hardly know the > > man), I do have a few things to say in defense of Indians whom you > > perceive to be ungrateful. See, most Indians who ask questions are > > desperate, and in need of help. You can't expect a 'thank you' note > > from someone who wants to know if his child is gonna survive, right? > > Second, there are many people who find this " thank you culture " a > bit > > mechanical, to say the least. > > > > For instance, I've always felt grateful to the people who've > responded > > to my queries, but I am not the type of person to show it. That's my > > nature, and if you misconstrue this as ingratitude, I am sorry about > > that. But I can only assure you and every sincere astrologer that > > there are many Indians like me out there, who have tremendous > respect > > for you, but just don't display it as openly as do the westerners. > > > > As to Indians wanting a free ride, well, what do you expect from us > > poor folks? If we were rich, do you think we'd be troubling you for > > predictions? Suffice it to say we're not in sound condition, > financial > > or otherwise, which is the reason for this desperation. And this > > shouldn't be mistaken for greed. All I am asking is, Please try to > see > > our side too, particularly when I am willing to see yours. Let's not > > fight over this anymore. > > > > I hope this mail has cleared things up a little. Let's pray for > better > > sense to prevail. > > > > Warm Regards, > > Suresh > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Suresh, > > > > > > Jai Shri Krishna, > > > > > > Since I had promised a gift of reading to mr.Vivek today, > > > I sat down to make Mr.Viveks chart,but something clicked > > > in my mind, that made me check the Past Messages from > > > " Jyotish Ganga " , and I noticed that I have already replied > > > him, and there were 12 postings connected to that thread. > > > > > > Your comments are welcome on above.. > > > In fact I would like you to put your > > > comments also connected with my reply > > > to the posting regarding preference being > > > given to westerners, and affirmations > > > from your side to my previous reply to you. > > > > > > You should have a word now for the other party too. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " suresh1511978 " > > > <suresh1511978@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , doulat <doulat1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sri Kishna > > > > > Namaste All respected members > > > > > > > > > > I agree with the statement that girls are attractive for > the > > > > >Indians, but here in this even males also get queries > answered at > > > > the >earliest and again i should say it is luck of person. > > > > > > > > I think a westerner has better chances of getting his/her > queries > > > > answered, irrespective of gender. " Elaine " has been responded > to by > > > > many people, and that too in quick time, whereas Indians like > Vivek > > > > and Suresh must wait forever! So I don't think it's got > anything to do > > > > with gender, it's a normal third-world mentality to give > preference to > > > > westerners. > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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