wishful acts in name of remedies all comment its V.V.V..VIMP 1/5

May 2, 2007

dear prashantji

no learnt astrologer or family priest recommends or endorses such

remedies like marrying a peepal tree. in my experience i observed

taht a poor man who wish to make his jupiter strong and is not able

to buy a golden yellow sapphire can simply wear a small piece of

banana tree bark and it gives equal benefit that of an yellow

sapphire. keeping a peepal leaf in the bookshelf or in the subject

book which is tough for the native, helps the native learn that

subject fast. buddhists believe that peepal tree is the tree of

wisdom.

from the above one would notice that peepal and banana tree both are

used as remedial holy items for jupiter.

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> dear arjun,

>

> good to hear this as when i said that it is wishful the thread was

started by me] most disputed my line not aishwaryas well some jokers

wud have started this concept of marrying trees not serious scholars

and sure no scriputral base.

>

> thanks

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

wrote: dear friends

>

> remedies or upayas are meant to mitigate or negate the negative

> results, if not completely avoid them.

>

> however, the particular remedy purportedly perfromed by aishwarya

rai

> is against the scriptures. peepal tree is attributed to planet

> jupiter and is worshipped as the most holiest tree on the earth.

> similar is the case with banana tree. marrying to a peepal or

banana

> tree and then cutting it off only incurrs the wrath of gods and

the

> native earns sin and curse. there are other alternatives like

> marrying a doll made up of normal wood or clay or marrying an

earthen

> pot and then destroy the same.

>

> let me reiterate that darshan of a peepal tree, parikrama of a

peepal

> tree and worhsipping a peepal tree are the most simplest

inexpensive

> remedies to get blessings from planet jupiter.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , Prasad MVSN

> <prasad_mvsn@> wrote:

> >

> > I totally agree with Mr Bhaskar about the remedies. These were

> advised by sages from times immemorial. These raise the confidence

> level of the persons to face the odds. After performing some

remedies

> the magnitude of the problems appears diminished. One gets courage

to

> face the problem and its impact gets minimized. Finally same

medicine

> given by same doctor to various patients worksin different ways.

It

> isthe faith that does wonders.Some people get a bad opinion on

> remedial measures due to lack of exposure or non availability of

> personnel to perform these in systematic ways.

> > With regards

> > M V S N Prasad

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > Dear Prathosh,

> >

> > Hello.

> >

> > We are no one to judge whether this is a sad state of affairs or

> real

> > awakening among the people to make the quality of their lives

> better.

> > These remedies have existed from time immemorial, and must be

> having

> > some substance, the essence of knowledge which must have got

lost

> to

> > us, in the preceding centuries which were (and still) spent in

> saving

> > ourselves from the continous invasions.

> > As long as they are harmless, produce no re-actions, provide

some

> > few, bread and butter, and also strong faith to those involved,

i

> > would not mind them being continued for those whose charts are

> > afflicted. When we believe that God is taking care of the couple

> when

> > they take Pheras around the Sacred Fire at time of marriage,

> keeping

> > all the tatwas of Nature as witness, then we must believe that

here

> > too there must be certain intricasies about which we may be

> ignorant,

> > and which our predecessors must have had full knowledge of.

> > Yes I agree that No ones Life Major events can be changed

> > drastically, but the evil effects can be reduced by remedial

> > measures, to the extent allowed in the Chart. And how many of

> > us can read the extent allowed in the Chart ? Atleast I cannot .

> > So I better allow the natives to do the remedies with full

faith.,

> > and they say that faith can create wonders. So let it be so.

> >

> > Since You have been asking for comments, I have given mines.

> > Please do not enter into any arguments with me. I am not

> interested.

> > You notice that I have stopped writing much on the Forums to

save

> > myself from unnecessary arguments. But this mail of Yours

invited

> me

> > to comment.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " prathoshg "

<prathoshg@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Members,

> > >

> > > I am sure some of u wud have read this kind of stories on

> remedies

> > sad

> > > state of

> > > afairs in the name of astrological remedies

> > >

> >

>

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ash_shows_mangliks_the_way/articles

> > how/193189\

> > > 8.cms

> > >

> > > Ash shows mangliks the way Technically, Abhishek would be

> > Aishwarya's

> > > fourth husband. Earlier this year, the manglik actress

reportedly

> > > married a

> > > pipal tree in Varanasi, a banana tree in Bangalore and a god in

> > > Ayodhya in order

> > > to avert the effects of 'mangal dosha' on her marriage.....

> > >

> > > --------------

> > > THESE DON'T WORK and anyone claiming one can cheat what ur

karma

> is

> > > supposed to

> > > give u it is foolish, there are some remedies for a few

doshas,

> some

> > > have to be

> > > endured we can max postpone some events in later times vya

good

> > match

> > > say if

> > > widowhood is destined it can be selected in a later period,

stage

> of

> > > life can't

> > > be reoved by any such tricks

> > >

> > > in the couples chart if there is indication of widow hood by

> > matching

> > > it for a

> > > future time can give them some good married life say 20-25 yrs

at

> > > least as their

> > > kids grow instead ofa loss of wife ina yr or few yrs,

> > >

> > > what happens i fsuch a trend is indicated by this matching we

can

> > max

> > > bring a

> > > near death like situation by `just escaped kind' say an

accident,

> > surgery

> > > whatver is still possible in an earlier weak period.

> > >

> > > this is max one can alter ones karma quotient not more

> > >

> > > provided u have some good karma balance to get good advice

from a

> > > competent

> > > person in time. else no use.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

May 2, 2007

dear lerned members,

no one have all the knowledge of world, one thing may be wrong in

one's thought but it may be right in other one's thought, in

astrology no one have knowledge of all remedies, and no one can say

this is a remeady and this is not a remeady, it may be one may have

experience of benifits of that and other one does not have experience.

it depends on time what can work, some time well processed Anushtan

also went invain, and simple pray work. depend on what level of faith

and devotion we have on our isht / guru.

rgds

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear prashantji

>

> no learnt astrologer or family priest recommends or endorses such

> remedies like marrying a peepal tree. in my experience i observed

> taht a poor man who wish to make his jupiter strong and is not able

> to buy a golden yellow sapphire can simply wear a small piece of

> banana tree bark and it gives equal benefit that of an yellow

> sapphire. keeping a peepal leaf in the bookshelf or in the subject

> book which is tough for the native, helps the native learn that

> subject fast. buddhists believe that peepal tree is the tree of

> wisdom.

>

> from the above one would notice that peepal and banana tree both

are

> used as remedial holy items for jupiter.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > dear arjun,

> >

> > good to hear this as when i said that it is wishful the thread

was

> started by me] most disputed my line not aishwaryas well some

jokers

> wud have started this concept of marrying trees not serious

scholars

> and sure no scriputral base.

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@>

> wrote: dear friends

> >

> > remedies or upayas are meant to mitigate or negate the negative

> > results, if not completely avoid them.

> >

> > however, the particular remedy purportedly perfromed by

aishwarya

> rai

> > is against the scriptures. peepal tree is attributed to planet

> > jupiter and is worshipped as the most holiest tree on the

earth.

> > similar is the case with banana tree. marrying to a peepal or

> banana

> > tree and then cutting it off only incurrs the wrath of gods and

> the

> > native earns sin and curse. there are other alternatives like

> > marrying a doll made up of normal wood or clay or marrying an

> earthen

> > pot and then destroy the same.

> >

> > let me reiterate that darshan of a peepal tree, parikrama of a

> peepal

> > tree and worhsipping a peepal tree are the most simplest

> inexpensive

> > remedies to get blessings from planet jupiter.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> > , Prasad MVSN

> > <prasad_mvsn@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I totally agree with Mr Bhaskar about the remedies. These were

> > advised by sages from times immemorial. These raise the

confidence

> > level of the persons to face the odds. After performing some

> remedies

> > the magnitude of the problems appears diminished. One gets

courage

> to

> > face the problem and its impact gets minimized. Finally same

> medicine

> > given by same doctor to various patients worksin different ways.

> It

> > isthe faith that does wonders.Some people get a bad opinion on

> > remedial measures due to lack of exposure or non availability of

> > personnel to perform these in systematic ways.

> > > With regards

> > > M V S N Prasad

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > Dear Prathosh,

> > >

> > > Hello.

> > >

> > > We are no one to judge whether this is a sad state of affairs

or

> > real

> > > awakening among the people to make the quality of their lives

> > better.

> > > These remedies have existed from time immemorial, and must be

> > having

> > > some substance, the essence of knowledge which must have got

> lost

> > to

> > > us, in the preceding centuries which were (and still) spent in

> > saving

> > > ourselves from the continous invasions.

> > > As long as they are harmless, produce no re-actions, provide

> some

> > > few, bread and butter, and also strong faith to those

involved,

> i

> > > would not mind them being continued for those whose charts are

> > > afflicted. When we believe that God is taking care of the

couple

> > when

> > > they take Pheras around the Sacred Fire at time of marriage,

> > keeping

> > > all the tatwas of Nature as witness, then we must believe that

> here

> > > too there must be certain intricasies about which we may be

> > ignorant,

> > > and which our predecessors must have had full knowledge of.

> > > Yes I agree that No ones Life Major events can be changed

> > > drastically, but the evil effects can be reduced by remedial

> > > measures, to the extent allowed in the Chart. And how many of

> > > us can read the extent allowed in the Chart ? Atleast I

cannot .

> > > So I better allow the natives to do the remedies with full

> faith.,

> > > and they say that faith can create wonders. So let it be so.

> > >

> > > Since You have been asking for comments, I have given mines.

> > > Please do not enter into any arguments with me. I am not

> > interested.

> > > You notice that I have stopped writing much on the Forums to

> save

> > > myself from unnecessary arguments. But this mail of Yours

> invited

> > me

> > > to comment.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " prathoshg "

> <prathoshg@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Members,

> > > >

> > > > I am sure some of u wud have read this kind of stories on

> > remedies

> > > sad

> > > > state of

> > > > afairs in the name of astrological remedies

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Ash_shows_mangliks_the_way/articles

> > > how/193189\

> > > > 8.cms

> > > >

> > > > Ash shows mangliks the way Technically, Abhishek would be

> > > Aishwarya's

> > > > fourth husband. Earlier this year, the manglik actress

> reportedly

> > > > married a

> > > > pipal tree in Varanasi, a banana tree in Bangalore and a god

in

> > > > Ayodhya in order

> > > > to avert the effects of 'mangal dosha' on her marriage.....

> > > >

> > > > --------------

> > > > THESE DON'T WORK and anyone claiming one can cheat what ur

> karma

> > is

> > > > supposed to

> > > > give u it is foolish, there are some remedies for a few

> doshas,

> > some

> > > > have to be

> > > > endured we can max postpone some events in later times vya

> good

> > > match

> > > > say if

> > > > widowhood is destined it can be selected in a later period,

> stage

> > of

> > > > life can't

> > > > be reoved by any such tricks

> > > >

> > > > in the couples chart if there is indication of widow hood by

> > > matching

> > > > it for a

> > > > future time can give them some good married life say 20-25

yrs

> at

> > > > least as their

> > > > kids grow instead ofa loss of wife ina yr or few yrs,

> > > >

> > > > what happens i fsuch a trend is indicated by this matching

we

> can

> > > max

> > > > bring a

> > > > near death like situation by `just escaped kind' say an

> accident,

> > > surgery

> > > > whatver is still possible in an earlier weak period.

> > > >

> > > > this is max one can alter ones karma quotient not more

> > > >

> > > > provided u have some good karma balance to get good advice

> from a

> > > > competent

> > > > person in time. else no use.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > >

May 2, 2007

Hello members,

I want to share my views on remedial measures. We suggest remedies based on

placement of planets in some house ,in some rahi and aspects of other malefics

etc..

No one has ever carried out study in which we have taken cosideration of the

degrees of the planet (from 0 to 30 keeping same chart).

Suppose we are giving remedy related to mars in same particular rashi based on

some classical principles. Have we ever checked that what were the planetary

positions in the chart in case where remedies have worked sucessfully and planet

degrees where they have failed.

A remedy may work where malefic influence is within range (at some particular

degrees) where it can be controlled. And it may not work at other degree in the

exactly same chart.

In horoscope keeping the same planetary position & ascendant we can get

different charts based on degrees of each planet varying from 0 to 30 every day/

month.

At some particular degrees in same position the malefic influence of planet

gets neutralised whereas at some other degree it does'nt get.

If we start analysing on the above basis we will get lacs of charts with

similar planetary position in rashi/ bhava but changed degrees.

This is a big challenge.

So instead of going in to big loop we normally suggest remedy based on RASHI/

BHAVA/ ASPECTS OF PLANETS.

I am weak in english but even then i have tried to express my thoughts and the

complications related to remedy.

kishore

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