Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 om krishna guru, dear all and panda ji, who ever affected by the commercialisation of astrology by this man ,like going after them and offerring reading should come out and pls help to expose this man ,who is a shame for astrology as astrologers should do free service and ignore their families and them selves and all their bills r magicaly being taken care of by god who ever do free astrology ,still this man is out of selfishness and greedy for money making millions ,u can see all astrologers r raided by income tax for making money illegaly .In all cities the astrologers who do commercialy r bigger money earners than any body in other profession . Also this man has a sidhi ,he can identify people who ever comes in net and he will approach them in the context of reading .Still people ignore him as lot of people r doing it for free and y shud people shud go for him. For naadi reading he asking names of family members and some details ..AS u know that if a person has preta sidhi which can be achieved very easily ,who can say all names of family members ,y for nadi reading he wants names of persons . he is saying he wants to double check on it ,then y he needs hand prints and photos ,he is saying to identify the strenght of planets and see if the reading done by the reader is correct or not .Y he shud do it .. Who ask him to do reserch on nadi and all people dont care wat u do ,if u giv them free reading it well and fine ,no reserch shud be done .Y he wanted to list and tabulate all readings ,with details and predictions and make available for future generations .If he dont know how to read ancient text ,what he shud do is just translate the reader and giv other all free and maintain the leaf library and maintain the reader and his family and maintain himself by gods grace and y he shud ask money for reading . He is doing prashna first ,he says i hav no time to go for chart reading ,y he shud do that he do charts which ever supplied by us and any informations if he ask for double checking is a fraud who can do quick dollars by supplying back the same information to us. Y cant he do free and if he askes money even after ten readings we shud expose him .Like horliks can do advt their own its not a crime but in this era of internet astrology if some body make a web site professionaly designed if he is an astrologer he shud be hanged till death ,let him mind god is watching him and his place in hell is already reserved . In his recent tour to south for his so called reserch on nadi and leafs even though almost 40 persons of us who is wel placed in society promised all support ,as we might hav taken free reading from him in last 3 years for us and family ,relatives and frnds.But we identify the evil intention of him and we withdraw our promises and after reaching city we told our family members to say we r out of station .Why the hell he needs money and why he shud stay in hotels or lodges and why he shud eat decent food as footpath and free water was available every where and y shud he use taxis as in olden times people used walk long distance and slept under the shades of trees .If he is doing a devine professions ,he shud do it devinely so please every body one by one or as a whole do expose him and tell the community ,the astrocities done by this fraud . Also when some of us who are all students of our own chartastrology ,why cant him reply and tell what he find in his so called reserch.Even questions in his direct names and mails r ignored. So please all of us unite and expose all his activities. regds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dear Bhaskerji, AWESOME!!! This time no poetry... Regards Anup Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear all, If this man is so humble then I want to be one up. I dont like staying behind. I too should be exposed. Because I too charge money for those who wish to get readings from me on my personal id or chat. At least I demand. And of the five hundred whom I demand only one comes back to pay me. I say clearly to them that I do free service on Forums, but rest of my time if they wish to get free readongs then it is not possible cause I charge. This must be a great crime I suppose in eyes of few, but if it is one, then so be it so. Who has seen the shoes which I have worn for last 3 years without replacing them with new ones ? Who has seen the bed I sleep upon which has not been changed for 20 Years. Who has seen my Watch which I have not changed for last 15 years. Who has seen my clothes which I buy once in a year. Who has seen my torn Pyjama Kurtas which have not been replaced by new ones. Who knows how many times I have avoided going to the sprawling Shopping malls all over, where I would be tempted to buy, but with empty pockets would have to be torn with grief and come back singing a sad song and empty hands. Who has to listen to childrens woes who have not been granted or put into the better academic courses for lack of funds required as Fees. Who has seen the expression on my face when my old mother has to wait for another relatives car to pick her up in absence of her own car which her son could not buy for her even after having grown up. Who has seen My Old PC which keeps on getting shut down and which is assembled and being upgraded on and off 3 times a year, because i dont have mpney to buy a good one in a single shot. Who knows that I visit Movies once in 3 years because one visit with 4 family members would cost Rs.1500- as tickets in Bombay are available in good halls between Rs.150-200 and after movie normally its the customary action of going for dinner to some restaurant. Who knows that My wife has not been presented a beautiful saree by me for last 15 years. Who knows that I still carry the old Cell Phone (Black and White) which Reliance Mobile came out first with. Who knows that we have to be content with the 50 year old furniture discarded by our forefathers, in absence of finance to renovate or make new ones. Who knows how I send my family out of station when they have to visit their Grandparents who stay 1200 kms away. Which class berths I book who knows that. Who knows how many thousands of times and thousands of places we have to cut corners with, and still mantain or try to mantain basic self-respect in society. The people who ask for free readings would not know that. Because they must be having theior own problems to sit in my place and think about mines. No amount of explaining would hekp them, if i try to explain them that even what the educations their children receive at school is divine, and they should approach the principal of the school where their children study and ask them for free educations of their children. Or they should tell the tuition teacher who gives tuitions to their children why you are aksing money for tuitions .You are teaching, a Teacher, a divine person, doing divine job, so dont ask tuition Fees. Or when their family Doctors give them prescription for some ailment and then asks for fees, they should ask them why are you taking fees for doing such a noble act of healing someone.You are in such a noble profession, why do you want to charge fees. Or when their family member has to be admitted in some good hospital, and immediately they have to first deposit Good money to the reception Counter at the hospital for booking a room, that time also they should ask the hospital authorities that why they want to take money for such a Noble profession. But unfortunately they fold their hands and talk there., and here they curse and demand from the astrologers, as if its their birthright and the astrologers duties to give for free. But its the bloody astrologers who are to be blamed and no one else. We feel ashamed to cross or set the limits , of the answer of any query. We want to look good. We cannot say that okay i will answer this much, and the rest I shall not, because thats all time I can give to you. We feel scared of our bloody already spoilt reputations to say that. This actually great Noble Profession has been spoilt by such astrologers who cannot set a limit. We are ever ready to advertise for free readings.We are ever ready to even answer for a paltry sum of Rs.100- Such astrologers undermine and bring down the name and status of astrology. Do free work at one side on the Forums and demand good money on the other side when someone approaches You, has been my principal throughout.No wrong there I feel. No wrong in having a Website I suppose, because a grocer would have s shop to display his wares. A fruit seller would have a stall for same. A bookseller would have a shop to do the same etcetra. So why not a astrologer. If he begs for busines then that is third class behaviour. Which is not good. But advertising his website withoutcoming down on the knees for people to visit his site, is agreeable. Who are the people who criticize about astrologers asking money ? Let them come to my place. I will show them how one lives. let them also show how much and what substance themselves they are imparting to the public for free. I mantain at the same time, that astrology is a divine science given as a lovely gift to the few, and we should not misuse this gift of God. Let the extreme needy who are suffering medically be served free, let the persons who come on Forums who cannot pay due to sundry reasons, or do not want to pay, be given free service (Voluntarily by astrologers and not on demand by natives coming here) if anyone is interested he will reply. Let not the natives-Posters talk wrong about the astrologers working here selflessly. They should be immediately warned by the other astrologers in the community if one is attacked, The rest should not sit cool and enjoy one of his tribe being mauled by others. Thats cheap pleasure and brings the ojas of the observer down. The remaining astrologers should come out with their weapons (Proper Words of powwer). At the same time, the dirty astrologers of this Community should be exposed, those who bring down the name of this divine science should be exposed fully and made known to others, so that next time he will not have guts to fool any gullible native coming for help. We need to have certain ethics in this Profession, otherwise we are also a part of bringing down astrology to the level of roadside stalls and competetion of shoe sellers. This science is great. We have to remain great, lofty and High in our thinking and behaviour patterns We have to be proud of our Profession which has been Gods gift, and should be worthy of same. Do not get down from the High seat You have been given, do not spoil it, mantain its dignity, and let the native coming to us, be known that You are the giver and he is the taker, and not vice-versa. At the same time we have to be humble in front of our respective Gods, for giving us the opportunity to help someone, and for His making us an instrument for doing this great job. Ultimately concluding. So ask the Fees wherever necessary, so that Your wife and children do not have to go next doors for their evening dinners and morning lunches, do free work too, mantain the equanimity , also dignity should be high, do not lower self respect either of Yourself or astrology. Sorry for any objectionable matter above. All the best for a Happy Sunday. Bhaskar. , " astro_tellerkerala " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > om krishna guru, > > dear all and panda ji, > > who ever affected by the commercialisation of astrology by this man > ,like going after them and offerring reading should come out and pls > help to expose this man ,who is a shame for astrology as astrologers > should do free service and ignore their families and them selves and all > their bills r magicaly being taken care of by god who ever do free > astrology ,still this man is out of selfishness and greedy for money > making millions ,u can see all astrologers r raided by income tax for > making money illegaly .In all cities the astrologers who do commercialy > r bigger money earners than any body in other profession . > > Also this man has a sidhi ,he can identify people who ever comes in > net and he will approach them in the context of reading .Still people > ignore him as lot of people r doing it for free and y shud people shud > go for him. > > For naadi reading he asking names of family members and some details > .AS u know that if a person has preta sidhi which can be achieved very > easily ,who can say all names of family members ,y for nadi reading he > wants names of persons . > > he is saying he wants to double check on it ,then y he needs hand > prints and photos ,he is saying to identify the strenght of planets and > see if the reading done by the reader is correct or not .Y he shud do it > . > > Who ask him to do reserch on nadi and all people dont care wat u do ,if > u giv them free reading it well and fine ,no reserch shud be done .Y he > wanted to list and tabulate all readings ,with details and predictions > and make available for future generations .If he dont know how to read > ancient text ,what he shud do is just translate the reader and giv other > all free and maintain the leaf library and maintain the reader and his > family and maintain himself by gods grace and y he shud ask money for > reading . > > He is doing prashna first ,he says i hav no time to go for chart reading > ,y he shud do that he do charts which ever supplied by us and any > informations if he ask for double checking is a fraud who can do quick > dollars by supplying back the same information to us. > > Y cant he do free and if he askes money even after ten readings we shud > expose him .Like horliks can do advt their own its not a crime but in > this era of internet astrology if some body make a web site > professionaly designed if he is an astrologer he shud be hanged till > death ,let him mind god is watching him and his place in hell is already > reserved . > > In his recent tour to south for his so called reserch on nadi and leafs > even though almost 40 persons of us who is wel placed in society > promised all support ,as we might hav taken free reading from him in > last 3 years for us and family ,relatives and frnds.But we identify the > evil intention of him and we withdraw our promises and after reaching > city we told our family members to say we r out of station .Why the hell > he needs money and why he shud stay in hotels or lodges and why he shud > eat decent food as footpath and free water was available every where and > y shud he use taxis as in olden times people used walk long distance and > slept under the shades of trees .If he is doing a devine professions ,he > shud do it devinely > > so please every body one by one or as a whole do expose him and tell the > community ,the astrocities done by this fraud . > > Also when some of us who are all students of our own chartastrology > ,why cant him reply and tell what he find in his so called reserch.Even > questions in his direct names and mails r ignored. > > So please all of us unite and expose all his activities. > > regds sunil nair . > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dear Anupji, Honesty pays. regards, Bhaskar. , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > AWESOME!!! > This time no poetry... > > Regards > Anup > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear all, > > If this man is so humble then I want to be one up. > I dont like staying behind. I too should be exposed. > Because I too charge money for those who wish to get > readings from me on my personal id or chat. At least > I demand. And of the five hundred whom I demand only > one comes back to pay me. > I say clearly to them that I do free service on Forums, > but rest of my time if they wish to get > free readongs then it is not possible cause I charge. > This must be a great crime I suppose in eyes of few, > but if it is one, then so be it so. > > Who has seen the shoes which I have worn for last 3 > years without replacing them with new ones ? > Who has seen the bed I sleep upon which has > not been changed for 20 Years. > Who has seen my Watch which I have not changed for last > 15 years. > Who has seen my clothes which I buy once in a year. > Who has seen my torn Pyjama Kurtas which have not been > replaced by new ones. > Who knows how many times I have avoided going to the sprawling > Shopping malls all over, where I would be tempted to buy, but > with empty pockets would have to be torn with grief and > come back singing a sad song and empty hands. > Who has to listen to childrens woes who have not been granted > or put into the better academic courses for lack of funds > required as Fees. > Who has seen the expression on my face when my old mother > has to wait for another relatives car to pick her up in > absence of her own car which her son could not buy for her > even after having grown up. > Who has seen My Old PC which keeps on getting shut down > and which is assembled and being upgraded on and off 3 > times a year, because i dont have mpney to buy a good one > in a single shot. > Who knows that I visit Movies once in 3 years because one visit > with 4 family members would cost Rs.1500- as tickets in Bombay > are available in good halls between Rs.150-200 and after > movie normally its the customary action of going for dinner to > some restaurant. > Who knows that My wife has not been presented a beautiful saree > by me for last 15 years. > Who knows that I still carry the old Cell Phone (Black and White) > which Reliance Mobile came out first with. > Who knows that we have to be content with the 50 year old furniture > discarded by our forefathers, in absence of finance to renovate > or make new ones. > Who knows how I send my family out of station when they have to visit > their Grandparents who stay 1200 kms away. Which class berths I book > who knows that. > Who knows how many thousands of times and thousands of places we have > to cut corners with, and still mantain or try to mantain basic > self-respect in society. > The people who ask for free readings would not know that. > Because they must be having theior own problems to sit in my > place and think about mines. > No amount of explaining would hekp them, if i try to explain them that > even what the educations their children receive at school is divine, > and they should approach the principal of the school where their > children study and ask them for free educations of their children. > Or they should tell the tuition teacher who gives tuitions to their > children why you are aksing money for tuitions .You are teaching, a > Teacher, a divine person, doing divine job, > so dont ask tuition Fees. Or when their family Doctors give them > prescription for some ailment and then asks for fees, they should ask > them why are you taking fees for doing such a noble act of healing > someone.You are in such a noble profession, why do you want to charge > fees. Or when their family member has to be admitted in some good > hospital, and immediately they have to first deposit Good money to the > reception Counter at the hospital for booking a room, that time also > they should ask the hospital authorities that why they want to take > money for such a Noble profession. > But unfortunately they fold their hands and talk there., and here they > curse and demand from the astrologers, as if its their birthright and > the astrologers duties to give for free. > > But its the bloody astrologers who are to be blamed and no one else. > We feel ashamed to cross or set the limits , of the answer of any > query. We want to look good. We cannot say that okay i will answer > this much, and the rest I shall not, because thats all time I can give > to you. We feel scared of our bloody already spoilt reputations to > say that. This actually great Noble Profession has been spoilt by such > astrologers who cannot set a limit. We are ever ready to advertise for > free readings.We are ever ready to even answer for a paltry sum of > Rs.100- Such astrologers undermine and bring down the name and status > of astrology. Do free work at one side on the Forums and demand good > money on the other side when someone approaches You, has been my > principal throughout.No wrong there I feel. No wrong in > having a Website I suppose, because a grocer would have s shop to > display his wares. A fruit seller would have a stall for same. A > bookseller would have a shop to do the same etcetra. So why not a > astrologer. If he begs for busines then that is third class behaviour. > Which is not good. But advertising his website withoutcoming down > on the knees for people to visit his site, is agreeable. > > Who are the people who criticize about astrologers asking money ? > Let them come to my place. I will show them how one lives. > let them also show how much and what substance themselves they are > imparting to the public for free. > > I mantain at the same time, that astrology is a divine science given > as a lovely gift to the few, and we should not misuse this gift of > God. Let the extreme needy who are suffering medically be served free, > let the persons who come on Forums who cannot pay due to sundry > reasons, or do not want to pay, be given free service (Voluntarily by > astrologers and not on demand by natives coming here) if anyone is > interested he will reply. Let not the natives-Posters talk wrong about > the astrologers working here selflessly. They should be immediately > warned by the other astrologers in the community if one is attacked, > The rest should not sit cool and enjoy one of his tribe being mauled > by others. Thats cheap pleasure and brings the ojas of the observer > down. The remaining astrologers should come out with their weapons > (Proper Words of powwer). At the same time, the dirty astrologers of > this Community should be exposed, those who bring down the name of > this divine science should be exposed fully and made known to others, > so that next time he will not have guts to fool any gullible native > coming for help. > > We need to have certain ethics in this Profession, otherwise we are > also a part of bringing down astrology to the level of roadside > stalls and competetion of shoe sellers. This science is great. We have > to remain great, lofty and High in our thinking and behaviour patterns > > We have to be proud of our Profession which has been Gods gift, > and should be worthy of same. Do not get down from the High seat > You have been given, do not spoil it, mantain its dignity, and > let the native coming to us, be known > that You are the giver and he is the taker, and not vice-versa. > At the same time we have to be humble in front of our respective > Gods, for giving us the opportunity to help someone, and for His > making us an instrument for doing this great job. > > Ultimately concluding. > So ask the Fees wherever necessary, so that Your wife and > children do not have to go next doors for their evening dinners > and morning lunches, do free work too, mantain the equanimity , > also dignity should be high, do not lower self respect either of > Yourself or astrology. > > Sorry for any objectionable matter above. > All the best for a Happy Sunday. > > Bhaskar. > > , " astro_tellerkerala " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear all and panda ji, > > > > who ever affected by the commercialisation of astrology by > this man > > ,like going after them and offerring reading should come out and pls > > help to expose this man ,who is a shame for astrology as astrologers > > should do free service and ignore their families and them selves and all > > their bills r magicaly being taken care of by god who ever do free > > astrology ,still this man is out of selfishness and greedy for money > > making millions ,u can see all astrologers r raided by income tax for > > making money illegaly .In all cities the astrologers who do commercialy > > r bigger money earners than any body in other profession . > > > > Also this man has a sidhi ,he can identify people who ever comes in > > net and he will approach them in the context of reading .Still people > > ignore him as lot of people r doing it for free and y shud people shud > > go for him. > > > > For naadi reading he asking names of family members and some details > > .AS u know that if a person has preta sidhi which can be achieved very > > easily ,who can say all names of family members ,y for nadi reading he > > wants names of persons . > > > > he is saying he wants to double check on it ,then y he needs hand > > prints and photos ,he is saying to identify the strenght of planets and > > see if the reading done by the reader is correct or not .Y he shud do it > > . > > > > Who ask him to do reserch on nadi and all people dont care wat u do ,if > > u giv them free reading it well and fine ,no reserch shud be done ..Y he > > wanted to list and tabulate all readings ,with details and predictions > > and make available for future generations .If he dont know how to read > > ancient text ,what he shud do is just translate the reader and giv other > > all free and maintain the leaf library and maintain the reader and his > > family and maintain himself by gods grace and y he shud ask money for > > reading . > > > > He is doing prashna first ,he says i hav no time to go for chart reading > > ,y he shud do that he do charts which ever supplied by us and any > > informations if he ask for double checking is a fraud who can do quick > > dollars by supplying back the same information to us. > > > > Y cant he do free and if he askes money even after ten readings we shud > > expose him .Like horliks can do advt their own its not a crime but in > > this era of internet astrology if some body make a web site > > professionaly designed if he is an astrologer he shud be hanged till > > death ,let him mind god is watching him and his place in hell is already > > reserved . > > > > In his recent tour to south for his so called reserch on nadi and > leafs > > even though almost 40 persons of us who is wel placed in society > > promised all support ,as we might hav taken free reading from him in > > last 3 years for us and family ,relatives and frnds.But we identify the > > evil intention of him and we withdraw our promises and after reaching > > city we told our family members to say we r out of station .Why the hell > > he needs money and why he shud stay in hotels or lodges and why he shud > > eat decent food as footpath and free water was available every where and > > y shud he use taxis as in olden times people used walk long distance and > > slept under the shades of trees .If he is doing a devine professions ,he > > shud do it devinely > > > > so please every body one by one or as a whole do expose him and tell the > > community ,the astrocities done by this fraud . > > > > Also when some of us who are all students of our own chartastrology > > ,why cant him reply and tell what he find in his so called reserch.Even > > questions in his direct names and mails r ignored. > > > > So please all of us unite and expose all his activities. > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dear Bhaskarji, Definitely,I agree, lets see this time:) " aadatan tum ne kar diye vaade aadatan hum ne aitabaar kiyaa, teri raaho mein baarahaa ruk kar, ham ne apanaa hi intazaar kiiyaa, ab naa maangege zindagii yaa rab, ye gunaah ham ne ek baar kiyaa " Regards Anup Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Anupji, Honesty pays. regards, Bhaskar. , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > AWESOME!!! > This time no poetry... > > Regards > Anup > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear all, > > If this man is so humble then I want to be one up. > I dont like staying behind. I too should be exposed. > Because I too charge money for those who wish to get > readings from me on my personal id or chat. At least > I demand. And of the five hundred whom I demand only > one comes back to pay me. > I say clearly to them that I do free service on Forums, > but rest of my time if they wish to get > free readongs then it is not possible cause I charge. > This must be a great crime I suppose in eyes of few, > but if it is one, then so be it so. > > Who has seen the shoes which I have worn for last 3 > years without replacing them with new ones ? > Who has seen the bed I sleep upon which has > not been changed for 20 Years. > Who has seen my Watch which I have not changed for last > 15 years. > Who has seen my clothes which I buy once in a year. > Who has seen my torn Pyjama Kurtas which have not been > replaced by new ones. > Who knows how many times I have avoided going to the sprawling > Shopping malls all over, where I would be tempted to buy, but > with empty pockets would have to be torn with grief and > come back singing a sad song and empty hands. > Who has to listen to childrens woes who have not been granted > or put into the better academic courses for lack of funds > required as Fees. > Who has seen the expression on my face when my old mother > has to wait for another relatives car to pick her up in > absence of her own car which her son could not buy for her > even after having grown up. > Who has seen My Old PC which keeps on getting shut down > and which is assembled and being upgraded on and off 3 > times a year, because i dont have mpney to buy a good one > in a single shot. > Who knows that I visit Movies once in 3 years because one visit > with 4 family members would cost Rs.1500- as tickets in Bombay > are available in good halls between Rs.150-200 and after > movie normally its the customary action of going for dinner to > some restaurant. > Who knows that My wife has not been presented a beautiful saree > by me for last 15 years. > Who knows that I still carry the old Cell Phone (Black and White) > which Reliance Mobile came out first with. > Who knows that we have to be content with the 50 year old furniture > discarded by our forefathers, in absence of finance to renovate > or make new ones. > Who knows how I send my family out of station when they have to visit > their Grandparents who stay 1200 kms away. Which class berths I book > who knows that. > Who knows how many thousands of times and thousands of places we have > to cut corners with, and still mantain or try to mantain basic > self-respect in society. > The people who ask for free readings would not know that. > Because they must be having theior own problems to sit in my > place and think about mines. > No amount of explaining would hekp them, if i try to explain them that > even what the educations their children receive at school is divine, > and they should approach the principal of the school where their > children study and ask them for free educations of their children. > Or they should tell the tuition teacher who gives tuitions to their > children why you are aksing money for tuitions .You are teaching, a > Teacher, a divine person, doing divine job, > so dont ask tuition Fees. Or when their family Doctors give them > prescription for some ailment and then asks for fees, they should ask > them why are you taking fees for doing such a noble act of healing > someone.You are in such a noble profession, why do you want to charge > fees. Or when their family member has to be admitted in some good > hospital, and immediately they have to first deposit Good money to the > reception Counter at the hospital for booking a room, that time also > they should ask the hospital authorities that why they want to take > money for such a Noble profession. > But unfortunately they fold their hands and talk there., and here they > curse and demand from the astrologers, as if its their birthright and > the astrologers duties to give for free. > > But its the bloody astrologers who are to be blamed and no one else. > We feel ashamed to cross or set the limits , of the answer of any > query. We want to look good. We cannot say that okay i will answer > this much, and the rest I shall not, because thats all time I can give > to you. We feel scared of our bloody already spoilt reputations to > say that. This actually great Noble Profession has been spoilt by such > astrologers who cannot set a limit. We are ever ready to advertise for > free readings.We are ever ready to even answer for a paltry sum of > Rs.100- Such astrologers undermine and bring down the name and status > of astrology. Do free work at one side on the Forums and demand good > money on the other side when someone approaches You, has been my > principal throughout.No wrong there I feel. No wrong in > having a Website I suppose, because a grocer would have s shop to > display his wares. A fruit seller would have a stall for same. A > bookseller would have a shop to do the same etcetra. So why not a > astrologer. If he begs for busines then that is third class behaviour. > Which is not good. But advertising his website withoutcoming down > on the knees for people to visit his site, is agreeable. > > Who are the people who criticize about astrologers asking money ? > Let them come to my place. I will show them how one lives. > let them also show how much and what substance themselves they are > imparting to the public for free. > > I mantain at the same time, that astrology is a divine science given > as a lovely gift to the few, and we should not misuse this gift of > God. Let the extreme needy who are suffering medically be served free, > let the persons who come on Forums who cannot pay due to sundry > reasons, or do not want to pay, be given free service (Voluntarily by > astrologers and not on demand by natives coming here) if anyone is > interested he will reply. Let not the natives-Posters talk wrong about > the astrologers working here selflessly. They should be immediately > warned by the other astrologers in the community if one is attacked, > The rest should not sit cool and enjoy one of his tribe being mauled > by others. Thats cheap pleasure and brings the ojas of the observer > down. The remaining astrologers should come out with their weapons > (Proper Words of powwer). At the same time, the dirty astrologers of > this Community should be exposed, those who bring down the name of > this divine science should be exposed fully and made known to others, > so that next time he will not have guts to fool any gullible native > coming for help. > > We need to have certain ethics in this Profession, otherwise we are > also a part of bringing down astrology to the level of roadside > stalls and competetion of shoe sellers. This science is great. We have > to remain great, lofty and High in our thinking and behaviour patterns > > We have to be proud of our Profession which has been Gods gift, > and should be worthy of same. Do not get down from the High seat > You have been given, do not spoil it, mantain its dignity, and > let the native coming to us, be known > that You are the giver and he is the taker, and not vice-versa. > At the same time we have to be humble in front of our respective > Gods, for giving us the opportunity to help someone, and for His > making us an instrument for doing this great job. > > Ultimately concluding. > So ask the Fees wherever necessary, so that Your wife and > children do not have to go next doors for their evening dinners > and morning lunches, do free work too, mantain the equanimity , > also dignity should be high, do not lower self respect either of > Yourself or astrology. > > Sorry for any objectionable matter above. > All the best for a Happy Sunday. > > Bhaskar. > > , " astro_tellerkerala " > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > dear all and panda ji, > > > > who ever affected by the commercialisation of astrology by > this man > > ,like going after them and offerring reading should come out and pls > > help to expose this man ,who is a shame for astrology as astrologers > > should do free service and ignore their families and them selves and all > > their bills r magicaly being taken care of by god who ever do free > > astrology ,still this man is out of selfishness and greedy for money > > making millions ,u can see all astrologers r raided by income tax for > > making money illegaly .In all cities the astrologers who do commercialy > > r bigger money earners than any body in other profession . > > > > Also this man has a sidhi ,he can identify people who ever comes in > > net and he will approach them in the context of reading .Still people > > ignore him as lot of people r doing it for free and y shud people shud > > go for him. > > > > For naadi reading he asking names of family members and some details > > .AS u know that if a person has preta sidhi which can be achieved very > > easily ,who can say all names of family members ,y for nadi reading he > > wants names of persons . > > > > he is saying he wants to double check on it ,then y he needs hand > > prints and photos ,he is saying to identify the strenght of planets and > > see if the reading done by the reader is correct or not .Y he shud do it > > . > > > > Who ask him to do reserch on nadi and all people dont care wat u do ,if > > u giv them free reading it well and fine ,no reserch shud be done ..Y he > > wanted to list and tabulate all readings ,with details and predictions > > and make available for future generations .If he dont know how to read > > ancient text ,what he shud do is just translate the reader and giv other > > all free and maintain the leaf library and maintain the reader and his > > family and maintain himself by gods grace and y he shud ask money for > > reading . > > > > He is doing prashna first ,he says i hav no time to go for chart reading > > ,y he shud do that he do charts which ever supplied by us and any > > informations if he ask for double checking is a fraud who can do quick > > dollars by supplying back the same information to us. > > > > Y cant he do free and if he askes money even after ten readings we shud > > expose him .Like horliks can do advt their own its not a crime but in > > this era of internet astrology if some body make a web site > > professionaly designed if he is an astrologer he shud be hanged till > > death ,let him mind god is watching him and his place in hell is already > > reserved . > > > > In his recent tour to south for his so called reserch on nadi and > leafs > > even though almost 40 persons of us who is wel placed in society > > promised all support ,as we might hav taken free reading from him in > > last 3 years for us and family ,relatives and frnds.But we identify the > > evil intention of him and we withdraw our promises and after reaching > > city we told our family members to say we r out of station .Why the hell > > he needs money and why he shud stay in hotels or lodges and why he shud > > eat decent food as footpath and free water was available every where and > > y shud he use taxis as in olden times people used walk long distance and > > slept under the shades of trees .If he is doing a devine professions ,he > > shud do it devinely > > > > so please every body one by one or as a whole do expose him and tell the > > community ,the astrocities done by this fraud . > > > > Also when some of us who are all students of our own chartastrology > > ,why cant him reply and tell what he find in his so called reserch.Even > > questions in his direct names and mails r ignored. > > > > So please all of us unite and expose all his activities. > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 jindagi maange se nahi milti kismat apni icchha se nahi khulti jo mila hai kismat se hame karna wafe hoga ussise Rab ne likha joh apne janma kundli mein mita sakte ho un gamon ko sirf Uski bandgi se. gunah jisse tum samajhte ho woh toh kaale badalon ka garajna hai yeh sandesh dete hain yeh saare gunah ke thokar ab lag gayi hai tujhe akkal aa gayi hai jamane ki tujhme ab main chalta hoon aage tum dehoge nayi subah intazaar karo us naye savere ka joh lautayegi bichhuda pyaar tera. ab na karna dubaara tum yeh gunaah baar baar nahi milegi tujhko nayi subah jo baan nishaane pe chooda, wah tha bhoot, joh baan tarkash mein hai , wah hai Bhavishya, joh baan chhodne ko ho taiyaar wah hai vartmaan. Vaartmaan se hoga tumhara beda paar. karo tum abhi isi samay ka upchaar baandhl lo mutthi mein in kshanon ko jaane na paaye yeh be matlab ki jaddojehad mein. inh par hai tumhara adhikaar utha lo fayda inse preet na kabhi nibhayi jinse ab mauka mila hai tumhe preet laga lo poorna un sabhi se. regards, Bhaskar. , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > Definitely,I agree, lets see this time:) > > " aadatan tum ne kar diye vaade > aadatan hum ne aitabaar kiyaa, > teri raaho mein baarahaa ruk kar, > ham ne apanaa hi intazaar kiiyaa, > ab naa maangege zindagii yaa rab, > ye gunaah ham ne ek baar kiyaa " > > Regards > Anup > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Anupji, > > Honesty pays. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > AWESOME!!! > > This time no poetry... > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > If this man is so humble then I want to be one up. > > I dont like staying behind. I too should be exposed. > > Because I too charge money for those who wish to get > > readings from me on my personal id or chat. At least > > I demand. And of the five hundred whom I demand only > > one comes back to pay me. > > I say clearly to them that I do free service on Forums, > > but rest of my time if they wish to get > > free readongs then it is not possible cause I charge. > > This must be a great crime I suppose in eyes of few, > > but if it is one, then so be it so. > > > > Who has seen the shoes which I have worn for last 3 > > years without replacing them with new ones ? > > Who has seen the bed I sleep upon which has > > not been changed for 20 Years. > > Who has seen my Watch which I have not changed for last > > 15 years. > > Who has seen my clothes which I buy once in a year. > > Who has seen my torn Pyjama Kurtas which have not been > > replaced by new ones. > > Who knows how many times I have avoided going to the sprawling > > Shopping malls all over, where I would be tempted to buy, but > > with empty pockets would have to be torn with grief and > > come back singing a sad song and empty hands. > > Who has to listen to childrens woes who have not been granted > > or put into the better academic courses for lack of funds > > required as Fees. > > Who has seen the expression on my face when my old mother > > has to wait for another relatives car to pick her up in > > absence of her own car which her son could not buy for her > > even after having grown up. > > Who has seen My Old PC which keeps on getting shut down > > and which is assembled and being upgraded on and off 3 > > times a year, because i dont have mpney to buy a good one > > in a single shot. > > Who knows that I visit Movies once in 3 years because one visit > > with 4 family members would cost Rs.1500- as tickets in Bombay > > are available in good halls between Rs.150-200 and after > > movie normally its the customary action of going for dinner to > > some restaurant. > > Who knows that My wife has not been presented a beautiful saree > > by me for last 15 years. > > Who knows that I still carry the old Cell Phone (Black and White) > > which Reliance Mobile came out first with. > > Who knows that we have to be content with the 50 year old furniture > > discarded by our forefathers, in absence of finance to renovate > > or make new ones. > > Who knows how I send my family out of station when they have to visit > > their Grandparents who stay 1200 kms away. Which class berths I book > > who knows that. > > Who knows how many thousands of times and thousands of places we have > > to cut corners with, and still mantain or try to mantain basic > > self-respect in society. > > The people who ask for free readings would not know that. > > Because they must be having theior own problems to sit in my > > place and think about mines. > > No amount of explaining would hekp them, if i try to explain them that > > even what the educations their children receive at school is divine, > > and they should approach the principal of the school where their > > children study and ask them for free educations of their children. > > Or they should tell the tuition teacher who gives tuitions to their > > children why you are aksing money for tuitions .You are teaching, a > > Teacher, a divine person, doing divine job, > > so dont ask tuition Fees. Or when their family Doctors give them > > prescription for some ailment and then asks for fees, they should ask > > them why are you taking fees for doing such a noble act of healing > > someone.You are in such a noble profession, why do you want to charge > > fees. Or when their family member has to be admitted in some good > > hospital, and immediately they have to first deposit Good money to the > > reception Counter at the hospital for booking a room, that time also > > they should ask the hospital authorities that why they want to take > > money for such a Noble profession. > > But unfortunately they fold their hands and talk there., and here they > > curse and demand from the astrologers, as if its their birthright and > > the astrologers duties to give for free. > > > > But its the bloody astrologers who are to be blamed and no one else. > > We feel ashamed to cross or set the limits , of the answer of any > > query. We want to look good. We cannot say that okay i will answer > > this much, and the rest I shall not, because thats all time I can give > > to you. We feel scared of our bloody already spoilt reputations to > > say that. This actually great Noble Profession has been spoilt by such > > astrologers who cannot set a limit. We are ever ready to advertise for > > free readings.We are ever ready to even answer for a paltry sum of > > Rs.100- Such astrologers undermine and bring down the name and status > > of astrology. Do free work at one side on the Forums and demand good > > money on the other side when someone approaches You, has been my > > principal throughout.No wrong there I feel. No wrong in > > having a Website I suppose, because a grocer would have s shop to > > display his wares. A fruit seller would have a stall for same. A > > bookseller would have a shop to do the same etcetra. So why not a > > astrologer. If he begs for busines then that is third class behaviour. > > Which is not good. But advertising his website withoutcoming down > > on the knees for people to visit his site, is agreeable. > > > > Who are the people who criticize about astrologers asking money ? > > Let them come to my place. I will show them how one lives. > > let them also show how much and what substance themselves they are > > imparting to the public for free. > > > > I mantain at the same time, that astrology is a divine science given > > as a lovely gift to the few, and we should not misuse this gift of > > God. Let the extreme needy who are suffering medically be served free, > > let the persons who come on Forums who cannot pay due to sundry > > reasons, or do not want to pay, be given free service (Voluntarily by > > astrologers and not on demand by natives coming here) if anyone is > > interested he will reply. Let not the natives-Posters talk wrong about > > the astrologers working here selflessly. They should be immediately > > warned by the other astrologers in the community if one is attacked, > > The rest should not sit cool and enjoy one of his tribe being mauled > > by others. Thats cheap pleasure and brings the ojas of the observer > > down. The remaining astrologers should come out with their weapons > > (Proper Words of powwer). At the same time, the dirty astrologers of > > this Community should be exposed, those who bring down the name of > > this divine science should be exposed fully and made known to others, > > so that next time he will not have guts to fool any gullible native > > coming for help. > > > > We need to have certain ethics in this Profession, otherwise we are > > also a part of bringing down astrology to the level of roadside > > stalls and competetion of shoe sellers. This science is great. We have > > to remain great, lofty and High in our thinking and behaviour patterns > > > > We have to be proud of our Profession which has been Gods gift, > > and should be worthy of same. Do not get down from the High seat > > You have been given, do not spoil it, mantain its dignity, and > > let the native coming to us, be known > > that You are the giver and he is the taker, and not vice-versa. > > At the same time we have to be humble in front of our respective > > Gods, for giving us the opportunity to help someone, and for His > > making us an instrument for doing this great job. > > > > Ultimately concluding. > > So ask the Fees wherever necessary, so that Your wife and > > children do not have to go next doors for their evening dinners > > and morning lunches, do free work too, mantain the equanimity , > > also dignity should be high, do not lower self respect either of > > Yourself or astrology. > > > > Sorry for any objectionable matter above. > > All the best for a Happy Sunday. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " astro_tellerkerala " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > om krishna guru, > > > > > > dear all and panda ji, > > > > > > who ever affected by the commercialisation of astrology by > > this man > > > ,like going after them and offerring reading should come out and pls > > > help to expose this man ,who is a shame for astrology as astrologers > > > should do free service and ignore their families and them selves > and all > > > their bills r magicaly being taken care of by god who ever do free > > > astrology ,still this man is out of selfishness and greedy for money > > > making millions ,u can see all astrologers r raided by income tax for > > > making money illegaly .In all cities the astrologers who do > commercialy > > > r bigger money earners than any body in other profession . > > > > > > Also this man has a sidhi ,he can identify people who ever comes in > > > net and he will approach them in the context of reading .Still people > > > ignore him as lot of people r doing it for free and y shud people shud > > > go for him. > > > > > > For naadi reading he asking names of family members and some details > > > .AS u know that if a person has preta sidhi which can be achieved very > > > easily ,who can say all names of family members ,y for nadi reading he > > > wants names of persons . > > > > > > he is saying he wants to double check on it ,then y he needs hand > > > prints and photos ,he is saying to identify the strenght of > planets and > > > see if the reading done by the reader is correct or not .Y he shud > do it > > > . > > > > > > Who ask him to do reserch on nadi and all people dont care wat u > do ,if > > > u giv them free reading it well and fine ,no reserch shud be done > .Y he > > > wanted to list and tabulate all readings ,with details and predictions > > > and make available for future generations .If he dont know how to read > > > ancient text ,what he shud do is just translate the reader and giv > other > > > all free and maintain the leaf library and maintain the reader and his > > > family and maintain himself by gods grace and y he shud ask money for > > > reading . > > > > > > He is doing prashna first ,he says i hav no time to go for chart > reading > > > ,y he shud do that he do charts which ever supplied by us and any > > > informations if he ask for double checking is a fraud who can do quick > > > dollars by supplying back the same information to us. > > > > > > Y cant he do free and if he askes money even after ten readings we > shud > > > expose him .Like horliks can do advt their own its not a crime but in > > > this era of internet astrology if some body make a web site > > > professionaly designed if he is an astrologer he shud be hanged till > > > death ,let him mind god is watching him and his place in hell is > already > > > reserved . > > > > > > In his recent tour to south for his so called reserch on nadi and > > leafs > > > even though almost 40 persons of us who is wel placed in society > > > promised all support ,as we might hav taken free reading from him in > > > last 3 years for us and family ,relatives and frnds.But we > identify the > > > evil intention of him and we withdraw our promises and after reaching > > > city we told our family members to say we r out of station .Why > the hell > > > he needs money and why he shud stay in hotels or lodges and why he > shud > > > eat decent food as footpath and free water was available every > where and > > > y shud he use taxis as in olden times people used walk long > distance and > > > slept under the shades of trees .If he is doing a devine > professions ,he > > > shud do it devinely > > > > > > so please every body one by one or as a whole do expose him and > tell the > > > community ,the astrocities done by this fraud . > > > > > > Also when some of us who are all students of our own chartastrology > > > ,why cant him reply and tell what he find in his so called > reserch.Even > > > questions in his direct names and mails r ignored. > > > > > > So please all of us unite and expose all his activities. > > > > > > regds sunil nair . > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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