What is Argala? (Parasara/Jaimini System)

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Dear All,

What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In what

situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between the

definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your opinion?

Please clarify.

Regards,

Sreenadh

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dear sreenadh,

argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly used

in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

 

in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

atached ARTICLE.

 

REGARDS

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In what

> situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between the

> definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your opinion?

> Please clarify.

> Regards,

> Sreenadh

>

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Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

Argala is the results of interrelation between the planets and the houses.

 

like if Mars in is lagna, it has argala with all houses.

 

it is in 5th from 9th house, it is in 4th from 10th house, it is 3rd in from

11th house,

 

so if it is 3rd from 11th house then it will be in parakram of 11th house.

 

i hope i m correct.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

--- astroiniket <astroiniket wrote:

 

> dear sreenadh,

> argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly used

> in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

>

> in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> atached ARTICLE.

>

> REGARDS

>

> , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In what

> > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between the

> > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your opinion?

> > Please clarify.

> > Regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Dear Tarun ji,

* I heard that Argala is related to 4th, 2nd and 11th (possibly

because they are related to wealth). I also heard that argala is also

calculated for 5th and Ke in 9th. But need clarification on these

basic concepts used by BPHS.

* I also heard that there are many combinations for the cancellation

of Argala yoga.

 

Actually I have BPHS and Jaimini sutra in my hand, but-

* I am not familiar with the current popular understanding of the

system (The popular accepted teachings and definition).

* I am not well aware of the differences between the use of this

concept by Jaimini and Parasara systems as well.

* The base cause of all this is that, I am new to Parasara & Jaimini

systems and just trying to understand the unique systems proposed by

BPHS and Jaimini in a better way.

* Jaimini sutra is not clear at several instances, and the available

commentaries are also confusing.

 

So I thought of hearing about the same from astrologers who use the

same in their predictions and readings. That is why this mail.

Please explain the same in detail.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst

wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji,

>

> Argala is the results of interrelation between the planets and the

houses.

>

> like if Mars in is lagna, it has argala with all houses.

>

> it is in 5th from 9th house, it is in 4th from 10th house, it is

3rd in from 11th house,

>

> so if it is 3rd from 11th house then it will be in parakram of 11th

house.

>

> i hope i m correct.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

> --- astroiniket <astroiniket wrote:

>

> > dear sreenadh,

> > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly

used

> > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> >

> > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> > atached ARTICLE.

> >

> > REGARDS

> >

> > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Sreenadh ji,

 

Yes in BPHS it is same as wrote by you.

but What i suggested was wht i interpretated from general perspective of seeing

all houses. Yes

nowhere the argala is defined clearly.

 

Like 2nd from each house has some meaning, and so on each house from other house

has some meaning.

 

so i explored that each house has some interconnection.

 

if we say 12th lord is bad if in 7th house because it is making 6/8 combination.

....so it is also

sad bad...it dont comes in 3/4/11 as said in bphs. So why it is taken bad.

 

I might be wrong but if we consider all the negatives than they too create

argala(obstruction)

 

you are more experienced than me, i hope you can make me more clear on my views

Regards,

 

tarun

 

 

 

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Tarun ji,

> * I heard that Argala is related to 4th, 2nd and 11th (possibly

> because they are related to wealth). I also heard that argala is also

> calculated for 5th and Ke in 9th. But need clarification on these

> basic concepts used by BPHS.

> * I also heard that there are many combinations for the cancellation

> of Argala yoga.

>

> Actually I have BPHS and Jaimini sutra in my hand, but-

> * I am not familiar with the current popular understanding of the

> system (The popular accepted teachings and definition).

> * I am not well aware of the differences between the use of this

> concept by Jaimini and Parasara systems as well.

> * The base cause of all this is that, I am new to Parasara & Jaimini

> systems and just trying to understand the unique systems proposed by

> BPHS and Jaimini in a better way.

> * Jaimini sutra is not clear at several instances, and the available

> commentaries are also confusing.

>

> So I thought of hearing about the same from astrologers who use the

> same in their predictions and readings. That is why this mail.

> Please explain the same in detail.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> >

> > Argala is the results of interrelation between the planets and the

> houses.

> >

> > like if Mars in is lagna, it has argala with all houses.

> >

> > it is in 5th from 9th house, it is in 4th from 10th house, it is

> 3rd in from 11th house,

> >

> > so if it is 3rd from 11th house then it will be in parakram of 11th

> house.

> >

> > i hope i m correct.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> > --- astroiniket <astroiniket wrote:

> >

> > > dear sreenadh,

> > > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> > > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly

> used

> > > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> > > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> > >

> > > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> > > atached ARTICLE.

> > >

> > > REGARDS

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> what

> > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> between the

> > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Astro niket,

Please read this article to have a minimum understanding of the

Argala I am speaking about.

URL: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/06/concept-of-argala.html

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " astroiniket "

<astroiniket wrote:

>

> dear sreenadh,

> argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly used

> in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

>

> in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> atached ARTICLE.

>

> REGARDS

>

> , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

what

> > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

the

> > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

opinion?

> > Please clarify.

> > Regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Or read this:

 

URL: http://www.sutradhari.com/parasara31.htm

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog

wrote:

>

> Dear Astro niket,

> Please read this article to have a minimum understanding of the

> Argala I am speaking about.

> URL: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/06/concept-of-

argala.html

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " astroiniket "

> <astroiniket@> wrote:

> >

> > dear sreenadh,

> > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly

used

> > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> >

> > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> > atached ARTICLE.

> >

> > REGARDS

> >

> > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between

> the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sir,

 

I have just visited that page.

This is written there .

//Argala is a JyotishTool to analyse how the argala influence

our activities. //

 

How does this explain what is Argala ?

 

What is the real meaning of argala -

Is it obstruction caused by a particular planet

to another ?

Is it vedha or like it ?

Does it deny the benefic effects accruing

from a planet ?

Is it to be considered as a aspect on other ?

 

Exactly what is Argala ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Astro niket,

> Please read this article to have a minimum understanding of the

> Argala I am speaking about.

> URL: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/06/concept-of-argala.html

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " astroiniket "

> <astroiniket@> wrote:

> >

> > dear sreenadh,

> > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly used

> > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> >

> > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> > atached ARTICLE.

> >

> > REGARDS

> >

> > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

> the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

>

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thanks sreenadh,

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Astro niket,

> Please read this article to have a minimum understanding of the

> Argala I am speaking about.

> URL: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/06/concept-of-argala.html

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " astroiniket "

> <astroiniket@> wrote:

> >

> > dear sreenadh,

> > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly used

> > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> >

> > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> > atached ARTICLE.

> >

> > REGARDS

> >

> > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

> the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means a check

or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences. When it

is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and if

ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may equate

argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the door of

opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is shubha or

ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight different

aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is amongst

astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas need to be

three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a different

view on this.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Sreenadh wrote:

>

> Dear All,

> What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In what

> situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between the

> definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your opinion?

> Please clarify.

> Regards,

> Sreenadh

>

>

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

==>

> What is the real meaning of argala -

> Is it obstruction caused by a particular planet

> to another ?

> Is it vedha or like it ?

> Does it deny the benefic effects accruing

> from a planet ?

> Is it to be considered as a aspect on other ?

>

> Exactly what is Argala ?

<==

That was exactly my question is. I am seeking expert openion

about the concept of Argala, as used by astrologers of

Parasara/Jamini School.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> I have just visited that page.

> This is written there .

> //Argala is a JyotishTool to analyse how the argala influence

> our activities. //

>

> How does this explain what is Argala ?

>

> What is the real meaning of argala -

> Is it obstruction caused by a particular planet

> to another ?

> Is it vedha or like it ?

> Does it deny the benefic effects accruing

> from a planet ?

> Is it to be considered as a aspect on other ?

>

> Exactly what is Argala ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Astro niket,

> > Please read this article to have a minimum understanding of the

> > Argala I am speaking about.

> > URL: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/06/concept-of-

argala.html

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " astroiniket "

> > <astroiniket@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear sreenadh,

> > > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use

to

> > > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly

used

> > > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read

Argala

> > > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> > >

> > > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala,

see

> > > atached ARTICLE.

> > >

> > > REGARDS

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same?

In

> > what

> > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between

> > the

> > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > opinion?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

Thanks for description.

==>

> Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

influences.

<==

Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which means 'continuous'

or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain or

lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you. These

meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

or 'bondage'.

Literal word meaning:

Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

 

Argala Yoga

===========

Rule -1:

 

If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

(As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

(Ubhayargala)

i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala Yoga

(Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and malefic

together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same is

true for 2nd and 11th.

 

Now the question is-

How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction' or 'Bondage'?!!

(Argala)

The Answer is -

Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

 

Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be rich.

If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at times

the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

searching for money suffering economic down falls.

 

Rule -2

There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or Yogargala.

It is stated below-

If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

Yoga results.

As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can be

of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can see,

Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty). There is

no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

 

Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth or

the lack of it)

If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence. He

too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in 5th,

the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack of

knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

 

Virodhargala:

=============

There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the Argala

caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy or

cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna). Similarly

if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause opposition

to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

Lagna).

There are several other combinations as well that cause

Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

 

==>

> I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> different aspects of the concept.

<==

Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but not

Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by an

Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion of

combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very long.

So I am stopping here.

 

The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I was

seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not the

purpose)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means a

check

> or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

When it

> is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and if

> ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

equate

> argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

door of

> opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is shubha

or

> ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

different

> aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

amongst

> astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas need

to be

> three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

different

> view on this.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Sreenadh wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

what

> > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

the

> > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

opinion?

> > Please clarify.

> > Regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

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> >

>

>

>

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, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

 

Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

Thanks for description.

==>

> Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

influences.

<==

Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which means 'continuous'

or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain or

lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you. These

meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

or 'bondage'.

Literal word meaning:

Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

 

Argala Yoga

===========

Rule -1:

 

If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

(As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

(Ubhayargala)

i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala Yoga

(Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and malefic

together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same is

true for 2nd and 11th.

 

Now the question is-

How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction' or 'Bondage'?!!

(Argala)

The Answer is -

Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

 

Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be rich.

If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at times

the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

searching for money suffering economic down falls.

 

Rule -2

There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or Yogargala.

It is stated below-

If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

Yoga results.

As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can be

of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can see,

Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty). There is

no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

 

Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth or

the lack of it)

If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence. He

too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in 5th,

the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack of

knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

 

Virodhargala:

=============

There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the Argala

caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy or

cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna). Similarly

if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause opposition

to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

Lagna).

There are several other combinations as well that cause

Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

 

==>

> I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> different aspects of the concept.

<==

Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but not

Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by an

Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion of

combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very long.

So I am stopping here.

 

The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I was

seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not the

purpose)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means a

check

> or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

When it

> is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and if

> ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

equate

> argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

door of

> opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is shubha

or

> ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

different

> aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

amongst

> astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas need

to be

> three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

different

> view on this.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Sreenadh wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

what

> > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

the

> > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

opinion?

> > Please clarify.

> > Regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

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dear sreenadhji

 

argala is something which i never reckoned in my readings or analysis

of a horoscope because i found it making the already complex maze of

principles more confused. albeit i cannot quote any scriptural

corroboration, here is my limited understanding of this subject

(which i do not follow):

 

argala is basically a point from where the signs and planets can

INTERFERE (the interference can be benefic or malefic) in another

sign or planet. but here comes the confusing part. you have direct

argalas and indirect argalas. accepting argalas and obstructing

argalas. benefic argalas and malefic argalas. lo, here too there

are exceptions.

 

in view of the above, i could not understand it myself clearly and

hence any more learnt person finding it easy to analyse and using it

can elucidate better so that i too stand educated.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

 

 

 

, " Sreenadh " <sreesog

wrote:

>

> Dear Tarun ji,

> * I heard that Argala is related to 4th, 2nd and 11th (possibly

> because they are related to wealth). I also heard that argala is

also

> calculated for 5th and Ke in 9th. But need clarification on these

> basic concepts used by BPHS.

> * I also heard that there are many combinations for the

cancellation

> of Argala yoga.

>

> Actually I have BPHS and Jaimini sutra in my hand, but-

> * I am not familiar with the current popular understanding of the

> system (The popular accepted teachings and definition).

> * I am not well aware of the differences between the use of this

> concept by Jaimini and Parasara systems as well.

> * The base cause of all this is that, I am new to Parasara &

Jaimini

> systems and just trying to understand the unique systems proposed

by

> BPHS and Jaimini in a better way.

> * Jaimini sutra is not clear at several instances, and the

available

> commentaries are also confusing.

>

> So I thought of hearing about the same from astrologers who use

the

> same in their predictions and readings. That is why this mail.

> Please explain the same in detail.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> >

> > Argala is the results of interrelation between the planets and

the

> houses.

> >

> > like if Mars in is lagna, it has argala with all houses.

> >

> > it is in 5th from 9th house, it is in 4th from 10th house, it is

> 3rd in from 11th house,

> >

> > so if it is 3rd from 11th house then it will be in parakram of

11th

> house.

> >

> > i hope i m correct.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> >

> > --- astroiniket <astroiniket@> wrote:

> >

> > > dear sreenadh,

> > > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use

to

> > > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly

> used

> > > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read

Argala

> > > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> > >

> > > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala,

see

> > > atached ARTICLE.

> > >

> > > REGARDS

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same?

In

> what

> > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> between the

> > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Narasimha ji,

==>

> For Lagna or For a planet 2-12, 3-11,4-10,5-9,6-12,3-8 places are

called Argalas.

<==

That was something new to me. Can you quote the authentic sloka

related to the same? Please provide the reference.

 

==>

> Subhargale Dhana Samvruddhih:

> Paschadripu Bhagayo graha Samye bandhah:

> Konayo ripujayayoh keetayugmayohrdhararihphayoschaah:

<==

 

Subhargale Dhana Samvruddhih: If Argala is caused by benefics wealth

results.

 

Paschadripu Bhagayo graha Samye bandhah: If there are equilent

planets in 6th and 9th, bondage results.

 

Konayo ripujayayoh keetayugmayohrdhararihphayoschaah: In trines (5-

9), in 6-7 houses, in Scorpio and Cancer, in 7-12; then too (Argala

results ?)

 

Is that the meaning of the sloka? If not please provide the correct

meaning. From where you quoted it? Is it from Jaimini sutra? Please

clarify.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " J.B.S.L. Narasimha

Rao " <narsimha6 wrote:

>

> Hi,

> According to Jaimini

> For Lagna or For a planet 2-12, 3-11,4-10,5-9,6-12,3-8 places are

called Argalas. In these with Subhasaamyam it will be Subhargalam

if it is a Papagraha Saamyam it will be Papargalam.

>

> Subhargale Dhana Samvruddhih:

> Paschadripu Bhagayo graha Samye bandhah:

> Konayo ripujayayoh keetayugmayohrdhararihphayoschaah:

> Thank you

> Narasimha

>

>

> Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: ---

In , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> wrote:

>

> Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> Thanks for description.

> ==>

> > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> influences.

> <==

> Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

means 'continuous'

> or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

> Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain

or

> lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you.

These

> meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage'.

> Literal word meaning:

> Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

>

> Argala Yoga

> ===========

> Rule -1:

>

> If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

> (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

> there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> (Ubhayargala)

> i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

Yoga

> (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

> Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

malefic

> together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same

is

> true for 2nd and 11th.

>

> Now the question is-

> How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

or 'Bondage'?!!

> (Argala)

> The Answer is -

> Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

>

> Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

> benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

rich.

> If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

> poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at

times

> the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

> searching for money suffering economic down falls.

>

> Rule -2

> There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

Yogargala.

> It is stated below-

> If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

> Yoga results.

> As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can

be

> of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

see,

> Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty). There

is

> no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

>

> Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

> easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while

5th

> is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth

or

> the lack of it)

> If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will

suffer 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

> enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will

suffer 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence.

He

> too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This

is

> Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

5th,

> the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack

of

> knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

> surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

> denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

>

> Virodhargala:

> =============

> There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

> such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

> from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

Argala

> caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

> planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy

or

> cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

Similarly

> if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

opposition

> to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

> Lagna).

> There are several other combinations as well that cause

> Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

> importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

>

> ==>

> > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > different aspects of the concept.

> <==

> Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but

not

> Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by

an

> Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

> For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

> cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

> Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

> Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion

of

> combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

long.

> So I am stopping here.

>

> The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

> Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I

was

> seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

> readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

> have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not

the

> purpose)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

a

> check

> > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

> When it

> > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and

if

> > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

> equate

> > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

> door of

> > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

shubha

> or

> > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

between

> > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> different

> > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> amongst

> > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas

need

> to be

> > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> different

> > view on this.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Sreenadh wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between

> the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

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, " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> wrote:

 

Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

Thanks for description.

==>

> Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

influences.

<==

Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which means 'continuous'

or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain or

lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you. These

meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

or 'bondage'.

Literal word meaning:

Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

 

Argala Yoga

===========

Rule -1:

 

If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

(As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

(Ubhayargala)

i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala Yoga

(Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and malefic

together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same is

true for 2nd and 11th.

 

Now the question is-

How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction' or 'Bondage'?!!

(Argala)

The Answer is -

Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

 

Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be rich.

If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at times

the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

searching for money suffering economic down falls.

 

Rule -2

There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or Yogargala.

It is stated below-

If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

Yoga results.

As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can be

of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can see,

Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty). There is

no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

 

Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth or

the lack of it)

If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence. He

too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in 5th,

the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack of

knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

 

Virodhargala:

=============

There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the Argala

caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy or

cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna). Similarly

if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause opposition

to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

Lagna).

There are several other combinations as well that cause

Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

 

==>

> I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> different aspects of the concept.

<==

Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but not

Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by an

Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion of

combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very long.

So I am stopping here.

 

The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I was

seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not the

purpose)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means a

check

> or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

When it

> is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and if

> ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

equate

> argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

door of

> opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is shubha

or

> ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

different

> aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

amongst

> astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas need

to be

> three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

different

> view on this.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Sreenadh wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

what

> > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

the

> > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

opinion?

> > Please clarify.

> > Regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

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Dear Arjun ji,

Thanks for that well written and valid response. I think we can

understand Argala in a better way, but still decide not to use it.

Why - I well mention in another mail. I have just forwarded a mail I

wrote in which explains the basic concept of Argala as I

understood it (Refering to both BPHS and Jaimini sutra). Later we

will proceed to discuss why it is not much useful, or why it stands

outside the normal flow of ancient indian astrology (The Arsha

schoolm, Jain school etc)

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear sreenadhji

>

> argala is something which i never reckoned in my readings or

analysis

> of a horoscope because i found it making the already complex maze

of

> principles more confused. albeit i cannot quote any scriptural

> corroboration, here is my limited understanding of this subject

> (which i do not follow):

>

> argala is basically a point from where the signs and planets can

> INTERFERE (the interference can be benefic or malefic) in another

> sign or planet. but here comes the confusing part. you have

direct

> argalas and indirect argalas. accepting argalas and obstructing

> argalas. benefic argalas and malefic argalas. lo, here too there

> are exceptions.

>

> in view of the above, i could not understand it myself clearly and

> hence any more learnt person finding it easy to analyse and using

it

> can elucidate better so that i too stand educated.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

>

>

>

> , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tarun ji,

> > * I heard that Argala is related to 4th, 2nd and 11th (possibly

> > because they are related to wealth). I also heard that argala is

> also

> > calculated for 5th and Ke in 9th. But need clarification on these

> > basic concepts used by BPHS.

> > * I also heard that there are many combinations for the

> cancellation

> > of Argala yoga.

> >

> > Actually I have BPHS and Jaimini sutra in my hand, but-

> > * I am not familiar with the current popular understanding of

the

> > system (The popular accepted teachings and definition).

> > * I am not well aware of the differences between the use of this

> > concept by Jaimini and Parasara systems as well.

> > * The base cause of all this is that, I am new to Parasara &

> Jaimini

> > systems and just trying to understand the unique systems proposed

> by

> > BPHS and Jaimini in a better way.

> > * Jaimini sutra is not clear at several instances, and the

> available

> > commentaries are also confusing.

> >

> > So I thought of hearing about the same from astrologers who use

> the

> > same in their predictions and readings. That is why this mail.

> > Please explain the same in detail.

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,

> > >

> > > Argala is the results of interrelation between the planets and

> the

> > houses.

> > >

> > > like if Mars in is lagna, it has argala with all houses.

> > >

> > > it is in 5th from 9th house, it is in 4th from 10th house, it

is

> > 3rd in from 11th house,

> > >

> > > so if it is 3rd from 11th house then it will be in parakram of

> 11th

> > house.

> > >

> > > i hope i m correct.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > >

> > > --- astroiniket <astroiniket@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > dear sreenadh,

> > > > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which

use

> to

> > > > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word

mostly

> > used

> > > > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read

> Argala

> > > > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> > > >

> > > > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala,

> see

> > > > atached ARTICLE.

> > > >

> > > > REGARDS

> > > >

> > > > , " Sreenadh "

<sreesog@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same?

> In

> > what

> > > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> > between the

> > > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > opinion?

> > > > > Please clarify.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

I think it is other way round. Anargal is derived from the Sanskrit word

Argal and not the other way round. But the meaning is clear as you can see.

 

Some commentators of Jaimini think that for argala to be strong three

planets should be involved.

 

I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of adhyaaya 31

of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala cast by one graha

is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more than two grahas it is

called the best argala by the sages. So it is not only Jaimini who talks

about Argala to have to be cast by three grahas to give best effects.

 

I think the meaning door bolt is better than meaning obstruction.

Sliding out of a door bolt removes obstruction and sliding it in can

introduce the obstruction. But even this is not a very good concept,

better call it an influence whether benefic or malefic being decided

by the nature of the planets casting argala.

 

Personally, I think that saying that even sukha can be bondage for one

in search of true happiness may be rationalizing argala being viewed as

obstruction. Otherwise why should work (10th) obstruct Sukha. Even

Sadhana is work. I think that the virodh argala is more like a status

quo type of situation if equal number of planets are on either side.

 

I do not find argala of the 5th house being given separately by

Parashara the shlokas indicating argalas are in succession and it is

only to be true to the Cchanda that it appears in a different shloka. If

you read the first shloka of the adhayaaya on argala in BPHS Maitreya

talks about the shubha effects of argalas and not obstructions, so

knowledge causing bondage etc. does not find support in Parashari or

Jaimini. I am sure that you might be quoting from some other text. Could

indicate the source of this hypothesis? This will help expand our

knowledge of Argala concept.

 

I do not think planets in 11th cause virodh argala to argala cast by the

planet in the 4th. Could you please indicate the source for this statement?

 

I do not think Jaimini said anything that is different to what Parashara

said. he wrote in Sutras and it is the translators that could have

missed on some interpretations if he appears to differ from Parashara.

By the way, I do not find anywhere in Jaimini sutras that he wanted to

teach concepts of Parashara to his students. Jaimini is stated to be one

amongst 18 pravartakas on Jyotish, including Parashara.

 

There are many ( as many as 20 that I know of) commentaries on Jaimini

and sutras being difficult to interpret, the commentators have different

views on what Jaimini meant by one sutra or other. Most of the

knowledgeable ones who had recourse to the Vriddha Karikas, used them to

help interpretation of the sutras and some used Parashari to interpret them.

 

Parashara does mention the argala cast by malefics in the 3rd.

Santanam/Ranjan Publication edtion does have the shloka to that effect.

Which edition are you referring to?

 

No doubt BPHS tells about argala in its chapter on argalas but the

information that you are attributing to Parashara does not seem to

appear there. So will you kindly tell which of the 8 known editions of

BPHS you are referring to when indicating what Parashara said, that does

not seem to be the case in Santanam/ Ranjan Publication edition? If you

could also give the shlokas in support of your statements, that would be

welcome.

 

Like you, I would also love any meaningful discussion on Argalas.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

Sreenadh wrote:

>

> Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> Thanks for description.

> ==>

> > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> influences.

> <==

> Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which means 'continuous'

> or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

> Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain or

> lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you. These

> meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage'.

> Literal word meaning:

> Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

>

> Argala Yoga

> ===========

> Rule -1:

>

> If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

> (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

> there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> (Ubhayargala)

> i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala Yoga

> (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

> Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and malefic

> together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same is

> true for 2nd and 11th.

>

> Now the question is-

> How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction' or 'Bondage'?!!

> (Argala)

> The Answer is -

> Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

>

> Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

> benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be rich.

> If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

> poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at times

> the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

> searching for money suffering economic down falls.

>

> Rule -2

> There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or Yogargala.

> It is stated below-

> If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

> Yoga results.

> As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can be

> of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can see,

> Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty). There is

> no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

>

> Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

> easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

> is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth or

> the lack of it)

> If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

> enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence. He

> too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in 5th,

> the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack of

> knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

> surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

> denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

>

> Virodhargala:

> =============

> There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

> such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

> from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the Argala

> caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

> planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy or

> cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna). Similarly

> if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause opposition

> to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

> Lagna).

> There are several other combinations as well that cause

> Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

> importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

>

> ==>

> > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > different aspects of the concept.

> <==

> Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but not

> Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by an

> Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

> For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

> cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

> Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

> Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion of

> combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very long.

> So I am stopping here.

>

> The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

> Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I was

> seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

> readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

> have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not the

> purpose)

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means a

> check

> > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

> When it

> > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and if

> > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

> equate

> > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

> door of

> > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is shubha

> or

> > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> different

> > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> amongst

> > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas need

> to be

> > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> different

> > view on this.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Sreenadh wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions between

> the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

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Dear Chandrasekhar ji,

I am collecting and studying all the available slokas related to the

same. I will provide it as a pdf document soon (as a review of

introduction, aspect of signs & Argala discussed in Jaimini sutra

with all the quotes in Sanskrit).

As of now what I could find is -

 

1) As per BPHS,

Planets in 4-2-11 cam cause Argala. Planets in 10-12-3 can cause

Virodhargala. i.e. The combinations 4-10, 2-12, 11-3 are important.

Note that these signs are equidistant from Lagna. The same is

supported by Jaimini as well. Also note that 1-2-3-4-5-6 forms the

non-visible half (Adirshyardha) of sky, and 7-8-9-10-11-12 forms the

visible part (Drishyardha). Each house in Drishyardha is related to

its corresponding house in Adirshyardha (as per sages). This prompts

us to ask, then what about 1-7, 5-9, 6-8 houses?

In BPHS, Parasara also speaks about planets in weak planets in 7th

not causing Virodhargala (to Planets in Lagna). Thus it is clear that

1-7 combination is also considered. In a BPHS quote quoted in a

commentary of Jaimini sutra available with me (I couldn't find the

same sloka in printed version of BPHS), I could also find that

Parasara states about planets in 5th causing Argala, and planets in

9th causing Virodhargala. Thus 5-9 combination is also mentioned.

This statement about 5-9 combination is also supported by Jaimini.

The same text (the above mentioned commentary) again quotes a

Parasara sloka which states about Ketu in 9th causing Argala (A

similar quote is present in the printed version of BPHS as well).

This too is supported by Jaimini sutra. But both the text (BPHS and

Jaimini sutra) speaks nothing about 6-8 combination.

Thus Argala-Virodhargala combination can happen for 1-7, 2-12, 3-

11, 4-10, 5-9 and 6-8 (?) combinations.

 

2) Jaimini extends the Virdodhargala rule -

Jaimini sutra states that,

* planet in 11th (8th from 4th) can cause Virodhargala to the

Argala caused by planet in 4th.

* Planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) can cause Virodhargala to the

Argala caused by planet in 2nd.

* Planet in 6th (8th from 11th) can cause Virodhargala to the

Argala caused by the planet in 11th.

 

Thus in essence the advice is " The planet in the 8th house from

the planet causing Argala also can cause Virodhargala " . This is an

extension, of the Argala concept provided by BPHS by Jaimini.

 

3) Yes, Both Parasara and Jaimini tells us that 2 or more malefics

in 3rd can cause Virodhargala (even though it is not clear that it

should be applied to Argala caused by which house). [Pardon, my

mistake in the previous mail]

 

==>

> I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> adhyaaya 31 of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala

> cast by one graha is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more

> than two grahas it is called the best argala by the sages.

<==

I don't think the meaning of that sloka should be interpreted in

that way. Possibly it points to the results that should be

attributed, if there are one Argala (Argalas that does not gets

cancelled by Virodhargala) in a horoscope; 2 Argalas in a horoscope;

or more than 2 Argalas.

 

 

P.S: I am finding, many quotes in other texts (commentaries etc),

that quotes many slokas of Parasara (and from the language and

description style it seems that they are from BPHS, as most of them

address Mitraya), but fail to find the same in BPHS. Either the

current printed version of BPHS we have today is incomplete and many

slokas are missing; It could also be possible that it contains may

interpolated slokas.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> I think it is other way round. Anargal is derived from the Sanskrit

word

> Argal and not the other way round. But the meaning is clear as you

can see.

>

> Some commentators of Jaimini think that for argala to be strong

three

> planets should be involved.

>

> I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

adhyaaya 31

> of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala cast by one

graha

> is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more than two grahas it

is

> called the best argala by the sages. So it is not only Jaimini who

talks

> about Argala to have to be cast by three grahas to give best

effects.

>

> I think the meaning door bolt is better than meaning obstruction.

> Sliding out of a door bolt removes obstruction and sliding it in

can

> introduce the obstruction. But even this is not a very good

concept,

> better call it an influence whether benefic or malefic being

decided

> by the nature of the planets casting argala.

>

> Personally, I think that saying that even sukha can be bondage for

one

> in search of true happiness may be rationalizing argala being

viewed as

> obstruction. Otherwise why should work (10th) obstruct Sukha. Even

> Sadhana is work. I think that the virodh argala is more like a

status

> quo type of situation if equal number of planets are on either side.

>

> I do not find argala of the 5th house being given separately by

> Parashara the shlokas indicating argalas are in succession and it

is

> only to be true to the Cchanda that it appears in a different

shloka. If

> you read the first shloka of the adhayaaya on argala in BPHS

Maitreya

> talks about the shubha effects of argalas and not obstructions, so

> knowledge causing bondage etc. does not find support in Parashari

or

> Jaimini. I am sure that you might be quoting from some other text.

Could

> indicate the source of this hypothesis? This will help expand our

> knowledge of Argala concept.

>

> I do not think planets in 11th cause virodh argala to argala cast

by the

> planet in the 4th. Could you please indicate the source for this

statement?

>

> I do not think Jaimini said anything that is different to what

Parashara

> said. he wrote in Sutras and it is the translators that could have

> missed on some interpretations if he appears to differ from

Parashara.

> By the way, I do not find anywhere in Jaimini sutras that he wanted

to

> teach concepts of Parashara to his students. Jaimini is stated to

be one

> amongst 18 pravartakas on Jyotish, including Parashara.

>

> There are many ( as many as 20 that I know of) commentaries on

Jaimini

> and sutras being difficult to interpret, the commentators have

different

> views on what Jaimini meant by one sutra or other. Most of the

> knowledgeable ones who had recourse to the Vriddha Karikas, used

them to

> help interpretation of the sutras and some used Parashari to

interpret them.

>

> Parashara does mention the argala cast by malefics in the 3rd.

> Santanam/Ranjan Publication edtion does have the shloka to that

effect.

> Which edition are you referring to?

>

> No doubt BPHS tells about argala in its chapter on argalas but the

> information that you are attributing to Parashara does not seem to

> appear there. So will you kindly tell which of the 8 known editions

of

> BPHS you are referring to when indicating what Parashara said, that

does

> not seem to be the case in Santanam/ Ranjan Publication edition? If

you

> could also give the shlokas in support of your statements, that

would be

> welcome.

>

> Like you, I would also love any meaningful discussion on Argalas.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> Sreenadh wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> > Thanks for description.

> > ==>

> > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> > > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> > influences.

> > <==

> > Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

means 'continuous'

> > or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

> > Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain

or

> > lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you.

These

> > meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage'.

> > Literal word meaning:

> > Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

> >

> > Argala Yoga

> > ===========

> > Rule -1:

> >

> > If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

> > (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

> > there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> > 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> > 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> > 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> > (Ubhayargala)

> > i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

Yoga

> > (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

> > Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

malefic

> > together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same

is

> > true for 2nd and 11th.

> >

> > Now the question is-

> > How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

or 'Bondage'?!!

> > (Argala)

> > The Answer is -

> > Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

> >

> > Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

> > benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

rich.

> > If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

> > poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at

times

> > the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

> > searching for money suffering economic down falls.

> >

> > Rule -2

> > There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

Yogargala.

> > It is stated below-

> > If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

> > Yoga results.

> > As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can

be

> > of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

see,

> > Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty).

There is

> > no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

> >

> > Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

> > easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> > Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> > The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

> > is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth

or

> > the lack of it)

> > If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> > intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

> > enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> > If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence.

He

> > too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys.

This is

> > Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> > If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

5th,

> > the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack

of

> > knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

> > surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

> > denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> > Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

> >

> > Virodhargala:

> > =============

> > There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

> > such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

> > from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

Argala

> > caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

> > planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy

or

> > cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

Similarly

> > if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

opposition

> > to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

> > Lagna).

> > There are several other combinations as well that cause

> > Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

> > importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

> >

> > ==>

> > > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > different aspects of the concept.

> > <==

> > Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but

not

> > Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by

an

> > Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

> > For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

> > cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

> > Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

> > Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion

of

> > combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

long.

> > So I am stopping here.

> >

> > The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> > understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

> > Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I

was

> > seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> > astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

> > readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

> > have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not

the

> > purpose)

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

means a

> > check

> > > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

> > When it

> > > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and

if

> > > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> > > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

> > equate

> > > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

> > door of

> > > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

shubha

> > or

> > > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

between

> > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > different

> > > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> > amongst

> > > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas

need

> > to be

> > > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> > different

> > > view on this.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> > what

> > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between

> > the

> > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > opinion?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > ------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date:

> > 6/4/2007 6:43 PM

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote:

 

Dear Chandrasekhar ji,

I am collecting and studying all the available slokas related to the

same. I will provide it as a pdf document soon (as a review of

introduction, aspect of signs & Argala discussed in Jaimini sutra

with all the quotes in Sanskrit).

As of now what I could find is -

 

1) As per BPHS,

Planets in 4-2-11 cam cause Argala. Planets in 10-12-3 can cause

Virodhargala. i.e. The combinations 4-10, 2-12, 11-3 are important.

Note that these signs are equidistant from Lagna. The same is

supported by Jaimini as well. Also note that 1-2-3-4-5-6 forms the

non-visible half (Adirshyardha) of sky, and 7-8-9-10-11-12 forms the

visible part (Drishyardha). Each house in Drishyardha is related to

its corresponding house in Adirshyardha (as per sages). This prompts

us to ask, then what about 1-7, 5-9, 6-8 houses?

In BPHS, Parasara also speaks about planets in weak planets in 7th

not causing Virodhargala (to Planets in Lagna). Thus it is clear that

1-7 combination is also considered. In a BPHS quote quoted in a

commentary of Jaimini sutra available with me (I couldn't find the

same sloka in printed version of BPHS), I could also find that

Parasara states about planets in 5th causing Argala, and planets in

9th causing Virodhargala. Thus 5-9 combination is also mentioned.

This statement about 5-9 combination is also supported by Jaimini.

The same text (the above mentioned commentary) again quotes a

Parasara sloka which states about Ketu in 9th causing Argala (A

similar quote is present in the printed version of BPHS as well).

This too is supported by Jaimini sutra. But both the text (BPHS and

Jaimini sutra) speaks nothing about 6-8 combination.

Thus Argala-Virodhargala combination can happen for 1-7, 2-12, 3-

11, 4-10, 5-9 and 6-8 (?) combinations.

 

2) Jaimini extends the Virdodhargala rule -

Jaimini sutra states that,

* planet in 11th (8th from 4th) can cause Virodhargala to the

Argala caused by planet in 4th.

* Planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) can cause Virodhargala to the

Argala caused by planet in 2nd.

* Planet in 6th (8th from 11th) can cause Virodhargala to the

Argala caused by the planet in 11th.

 

Thus in essence the advice is " The planet in the 8th house from

the planet causing Argala also can cause Virodhargala " . This is an

extension, of the Argala concept provided by BPHS by Jaimini.

 

3) Yes, Both Parasara and Jaimini tells us that 2 or more malefics

in 3rd can cause Virodhargala (even though it is not clear that it

should be applied to Argala caused by which house). [Pardon, my

mistake in the previous mail]

 

==>

> I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> adhyaaya 31 of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala

> cast by one graha is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more

> than two grahas it is called the best argala by the sages.

<==

I don't think the meaning of that sloka should be interpreted in

that way. Possibly it points to the results that should be

attributed, if there are one Argala (Argalas that does not gets

cancelled by Virodhargala) in a horoscope; 2 Argalas in a horoscope;

or more than 2 Argalas.

 

 

P.S: I am finding, many quotes in other texts (commentaries etc),

that quotes many slokas of Parasara (and from the language and

description style it seems that they are from BPHS, as most of them

address Mitraya), but fail to find the same in BPHS. Either the

current printed version of BPHS we have today is incomplete and many

slokas are missing; It could also be possible that it contains may

interpolated slokas.

 

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> I think it is other way round. Anargal is derived from the Sanskrit

word

> Argal and not the other way round. But the meaning is clear as you

can see.

>

> Some commentators of Jaimini think that for argala to be strong

three

> planets should be involved.

>

> I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

adhyaaya 31

> of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala cast by one

graha

> is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more than two grahas it

is

> called the best argala by the sages. So it is not only Jaimini who

talks

> about Argala to have to be cast by three grahas to give best

effects.

>

> I think the meaning door bolt is better than meaning obstruction.

> Sliding out of a door bolt removes obstruction and sliding it in

can

> introduce the obstruction. But even this is not a very good

concept,

> better call it an influence whether benefic or malefic being

decided

> by the nature of the planets casting argala.

>

> Personally, I think that saying that even sukha can be bondage for

one

> in search of true happiness may be rationalizing argala being

viewed as

> obstruction. Otherwise why should work (10th) obstruct Sukha. Even

> Sadhana is work. I think that the virodh argala is more like a

status

> quo type of situation if equal number of planets are on either side.

>

> I do not find argala of the 5th house being given separately by

> Parashara the shlokas indicating argalas are in succession and it

is

> only to be true to the Cchanda that it appears in a different

shloka. If

> you read the first shloka of the adhayaaya on argala in BPHS

Maitreya

> talks about the shubha effects of argalas and not obstructions, so

> knowledge causing bondage etc. does not find support in Parashari

or

> Jaimini. I am sure that you might be quoting from some other text.

Could

> indicate the source of this hypothesis? This will help expand our

> knowledge of Argala concept.

>

> I do not think planets in 11th cause virodh argala to argala cast

by the

> planet in the 4th. Could you please indicate the source for this

statement?

>

> I do not think Jaimini said anything that is different to what

Parashara

> said. he wrote in Sutras and it is the translators that could have

> missed on some interpretations if he appears to differ from

Parashara.

> By the way, I do not find anywhere in Jaimini sutras that he wanted

to

> teach concepts of Parashara to his students. Jaimini is stated to

be one

> amongst 18 pravartakas on Jyotish, including Parashara.

>

> There are many ( as many as 20 that I know of) commentaries on

Jaimini

> and sutras being difficult to interpret, the commentators have

different

> views on what Jaimini meant by one sutra or other. Most of the

> knowledgeable ones who had recourse to the Vriddha Karikas, used

them to

> help interpretation of the sutras and some used Parashari to

interpret them.

>

> Parashara does mention the argala cast by malefics in the 3rd.

> Santanam/Ranjan Publication edtion does have the shloka to that

effect.

> Which edition are you referring to?

>

> No doubt BPHS tells about argala in its chapter on argalas but the

> information that you are attributing to Parashara does not seem to

> appear there. So will you kindly tell which of the 8 known editions

of

> BPHS you are referring to when indicating what Parashara said, that

does

> not seem to be the case in Santanam/ Ranjan Publication edition? If

you

> could also give the shlokas in support of your statements, that

would be

> welcome.

>

> Like you, I would also love any meaningful discussion on Argalas.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> Sreenadh wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> > Thanks for description.

> > ==>

> > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> > > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> > influences.

> > <==

> > Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

means 'continuous'

> > or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

> > Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain

or

> > lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you.

These

> > meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage'.

> > Literal word meaning:

> > Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

> >

> > Argala Yoga

> > ===========

> > Rule -1:

> >

> > If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

> > (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

> > there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> > 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> > 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> > 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> > (Ubhayargala)

> > i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

Yoga

> > (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

> > Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

malefic

> > together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same

is

> > true for 2nd and 11th.

> >

> > Now the question is-

> > How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

or 'Bondage'?!!

> > (Argala)

> > The Answer is -

> > Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

> >

> > Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

> > benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

rich.

> > If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

> > poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at

times

> > the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

> > searching for money suffering economic down falls.

> >

> > Rule -2

> > There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

Yogargala.

> > It is stated below-

> > If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

> > Yoga results.

> > As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can

be

> > of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

see,

> > Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty).

There is

> > no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

> >

> > Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

> > easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> > Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> > The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

> > is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth

or

> > the lack of it)

> > If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> > intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

> > enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> > If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence.

He

> > too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys.

This is

> > Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> > If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

5th,

> > the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack

of

> > knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

> > surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

> > denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> > Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

> >

> > Virodhargala:

> > =============

> > There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

> > such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

> > from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

Argala

> > caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

> > planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy

or

> > cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

Similarly

> > if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

opposition

> > to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

> > Lagna).

> > There are several other combinations as well that cause

> > Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

> > importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

> >

> > ==>

> > > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > different aspects of the concept.

> > <==

> > Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but

not

> > Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by

an

> > Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

> > For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

> > cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

> > Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

> > Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion

of

> > combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

long.

> > So I am stopping here.

> >

> > The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> > understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

> > Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I

was

> > seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> > astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

> > readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

> > have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not

the

> > purpose)

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

means a

> > check

> > > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

> > When it

> > > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and

if

> > > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> > > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

> > equate

> > > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

> > door of

> > > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

shubha

> > or

> > > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

between

> > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > different

> > > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> > amongst

> > > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas

need

> > to be

> > > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> > different

> > > view on this.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> > what

> > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between

> > the

> > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > opinion?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

> > ------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date:

> > 6/4/2007 6:43 PM

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha ji,

Thanks for the pointing finger. Slowly clarity of this concept is

getting revealed to me.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Narasimha ji,

> ==>

> > For Lagna or For a planet 2-12, 3-11,4-10,5-9,6-12,3-8 places are

> called Argalas.

> <==

> That was something new to me. Can you quote the authentic sloka

> related to the same? Please provide the reference.

>

> ==>

> > Subhargale Dhana Samvruddhih:

> > Paschadripu Bhagayo graha Samye bandhah:

> > Konayo ripujayayoh keetayugmayohrdhararihphayoschaah:

> <==

>

> Subhargale Dhana Samvruddhih: If Argala is caused by benefics

wealth

> results.

>

> Paschadripu Bhagayo graha Samye bandhah: If there are equilent

> planets in 6th and 9th, bondage results.

>

> Konayo ripujayayoh keetayugmayohrdhararihphayoschaah: In trines (5-

> 9), in 6-7 houses, in Scorpio and Cancer, in 7-12; then too (Argala

> results ?)

>

> Is that the meaning of the sloka? If not please provide the

correct

> meaning. From where you quoted it? Is it from Jaimini sutra? Please

> clarify.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " J.B.S.L.

Narasimha

> Rao " <narsimha6@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> > According to Jaimini

> > For Lagna or For a planet 2-12, 3-11,4-10,5-9,6-12,3-8 places are

> called Argalas. In these with Subhasaamyam it will be

Subhargalam

> if it is a Papagraha Saamyam it will be Papargalam.

> >

> > Subhargale Dhana Samvruddhih:

> > Paschadripu Bhagayo graha Samye bandhah:

> > Konayo ripujayayoh keetayugmayohrdhararihphayoschaah:

> > Thank you

> > Narasimha

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote: ---

> In , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> > Thanks for description.

> > ==>

> > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

means

> > > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> > influences.

> > <==

> > Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

> means 'continuous'

> > or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and

thus

> > Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean

chain

> or

> > lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you.

> These

> > meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage'.

> > Literal word meaning:

> > Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

> >

> > Argala Yoga

> > ===========

> > Rule -1:

> >

> > If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala

Yoga

> > results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause

Argala.

> > (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should

be

> > there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> > 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> > 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> > 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> > (Ubhayargala)

> > i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

> Yoga

> > (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

> > Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

> malefic

> > together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same

> is

> > true for 2nd and 11th.

> >

> > Now the question is-

> > How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

> or 'Bondage'?!!

> > (Argala)

> > The Answer is -

> > Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

> >

> > Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS,

if

> > benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

> rich.

> > If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

> > poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at

> times

> > the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will

be

> > searching for money suffering economic down falls.

> >

> > Rule -2

> > There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

> Yogargala.

> > It is stated below-

> > If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also

Argala

> > Yoga results.

> > As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th

can

> be

> > of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

> see,

> > Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty).

There

> is

> > no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

> >

> > Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could

have

> > easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> > Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> > The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while

> 5th

> > is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth

> or

> > the lack of it)

> > If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will

> suffer 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> > intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free

man

> > enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> > If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will

> suffer 'obstruction'

> > or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of

intelligence.

> He

> > too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys.

This

> is

> > Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> > If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

> 5th,

> > the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack

> of

> > knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

> > surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will

be

> > denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> > Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

> >

> > Virodhargala:

> > =============

> > There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or

cancel)

> > such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th

(8th

> > from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

> Argala

> > caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is

any

> > planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy

> or

> > cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

> Similarly

> > if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

> opposition

> > to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th

(from

> > Lagna).

> > There are several other combinations as well that cause

> > Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

> > importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

> >

> > ==>

> > > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > different aspects of the concept.

> > <==

> > Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions

but

> not

> > Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by

> an

> > Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

> > For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house

can

> > cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

> > Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where

as

> > Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion

> of

> > combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

> long.

> > So I am stopping here.

> >

> > The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> > understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion

between

> > Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I

> was

> > seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> > astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

> > readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody

can

> > have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not

> the

> > purpose)

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

means

> a

> > check

> > > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

influences.

> > When it

> > > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and

> if

> > > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> > > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

> > equate

> > > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open

the

> > door of

> > > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

> shubha

> > or

> > > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

> between

> > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > different

> > > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> > amongst

> > > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas

> need

> > to be

> > > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> > different

> > > view on this.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same?

In

> > what

> > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> between

> > the

> > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > opinion?

> > > > Please clarify.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

Please go to google.com and search for Argala. There are over 103000 pages on

the subject.

 

Good luck and all the best.

 

Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

 

Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Dear Tarun ji,

* I heard that Argala is related to 4th, 2nd and 11th (possibly

because they are related to wealth). I also heard that argala is also

calculated for 5th and Ke in 9th. But need clarification on these

basic concepts used by BPHS.

* I also heard that there are many combinations for the cancellation

of Argala yoga.

 

Actually I have BPHS and Jaimini sutra in my hand, but-

* I am not familiar with the current popular understanding of the

system (The popular accepted teachings and definition).

* I am not well aware of the differences between the use of this

concept by Jaimini and Parasara systems as well.

* The base cause of all this is that, I am new to Parasara & Jaimini

systems and just trying to understand the unique systems proposed by

BPHS and Jaimini in a better way.

* Jaimini sutra is not clear at several instances, and the available

commentaries are also confusing.

 

So I thought of hearing about the same from astrologers who use the

same in their predictions and readings. That is why this mail.

Please explain the same in detail.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst

wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji,

>

> Argala is the results of interrelation between the planets and the

houses.

>

> like if Mars in is lagna, it has argala with all houses.

>

> it is in 5th from 9th house, it is in 4th from 10th house, it is

3rd in from 11th house,

>

> so if it is 3rd from 11th house then it will be in parakram of 11th

house.

>

> i hope i m correct.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

> --- astroiniket <astroiniket wrote:

>

> > dear sreenadh,

> > argala means a chain of locks or you can say a device which use to

> > lock the door, it is like that , this is a sanskrit word mostly

used

> > in Mantra Pryogas, example in Durga Saptshati you can read Argala

> > Stotram " that belongs to unlock of saptsahati "

> >

> > in astro purpose also there are so many definetion of argala, see

> > atached ARTICLE.

> >

> > REGARDS

> >

> > , " Sreenadh " <sreesog@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

what

> > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

between the

> > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

opinion?

> > > Please clarify.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

There is no dispute that Parashara talks about argala from 5th and

cancellation by that in the 9th. I do not find argala being cast by 1st

and 7th bhava, in BPHS. Rather the reference is to when the Lagna,

Arudha and the 7th from it receiving argalas causing the native to

become famous and fortunate. Could you please let me know the edition of

BPHS that you are referring that has Argalas being cast from 1st and 7th?

 

I would also appreciate the sutras from Jaimini and the commentator's

view on those that talks of Argala from 4th being blocked by virodha

Argala from 11th the one from 2nd being blocked from one from the 9th

and the one from the 11th being blocked by virodh argala from the 6th. I

do have many commentaries on Jaimini sutras and Vriddha Karikas with me

but do not find this in any sutra, hence the request. I would also

appreciate if you can give the name of the commentary and its author to

facilitate my understanding of what is said therein.

 

If you interpret the shloka quoted, about argala by one planet being

weak, that by two planets being medium and the one cast by three planets

being the best one, in another way then of course I can not comment on

it. I still feel that " eka grahaa kanishThaa saa dvigrahaa madhyamaa

smritaa, argalaa dvyadhikotpanna munibhiH kathitottamaa " means precisely

what has been translated by R. Santanam. Perhaps a member who is master

of Sanskrit language would like to comment on the interpretation of this

shloka.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

 

 

Sreenadh wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrasekhar ji,

> I am collecting and studying all the available slokas related to the

> same. I will provide it as a pdf document soon (as a review of

> introduction, aspect of signs & Argala discussed in Jaimini sutra

> with all the quotes in Sanskrit).

> As of now what I could find is -

>

> 1) As per BPHS,

> Planets in 4-2-11 cam cause Argala. Planets in 10-12-3 can cause

> Virodhargala. i.e. The combinations 4-10, 2-12, 11-3 are important.

> Note that these signs are equidistant from Lagna. The same is

> supported by Jaimini as well. Also note that 1-2-3-4-5-6 forms the

> non-visible half (Adirshyardha) of sky, and 7-8-9-10-11-12 forms the

> visible part (Drishyardha). Each house in Drishyardha is related to

> its corresponding house in Adirshyardha (as per sages). This prompts

> us to ask, then what about 1-7, 5-9, 6-8 houses?

> In BPHS, Parasara also speaks about planets in weak planets in 7th

> not causing Virodhargala (to Planets in Lagna). Thus it is clear that

> 1-7 combination is also considered. In a BPHS quote quoted in a

> commentary of Jaimini sutra available with me (I couldn't find the

> same sloka in printed version of BPHS), I could also find that

> Parasara states about planets in 5th causing Argala, and planets in

> 9th causing Virodhargala. Thus 5-9 combination is also mentioned.

> This statement about 5-9 combination is also supported by Jaimini.

> The same text (the above mentioned commentary) again quotes a

> Parasara sloka which states about Ketu in 9th causing Argala (A

> similar quote is present in the printed version of BPHS as well).

> This too is supported by Jaimini sutra. But both the text (BPHS and

> Jaimini sutra) speaks nothing about 6-8 combination.

> Thus Argala-Virodhargala combination can happen for 1-7, 2-12, 3-

> 11, 4-10, 5-9 and 6-8 (?) combinations.

>

> 2) Jaimini extends the Virdodhargala rule -

> Jaimini sutra states that,

> * planet in 11th (8th from 4th) can cause Virodhargala to the

> Argala caused by planet in 4th.

> * Planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) can cause Virodhargala to the

> Argala caused by planet in 2nd.

> * Planet in 6th (8th from 11th) can cause Virodhargala to the

> Argala caused by the planet in 11th.

>

> Thus in essence the advice is " The planet in the 8th house from

> the planet causing Argala also can cause Virodhargala " . This is an

> extension, of the Argala concept provided by BPHS by Jaimini.

>

> 3) Yes, Both Parasara and Jaimini tells us that 2 or more malefics

> in 3rd can cause Virodhargala (even though it is not clear that it

> should be applied to Argala caused by which house). [Pardon, my

> mistake in the previous mail]

>

> ==>

> > I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> > adhyaaya 31 of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala

> > cast by one graha is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more

> > than two grahas it is called the best argala by the sages.

> <==

> I don't think the meaning of that sloka should be interpreted in

> that way. Possibly it points to the results that should be

> attributed, if there are one Argala (Argalas that does not gets

> cancelled by Virodhargala) in a horoscope; 2 Argalas in a horoscope;

> or more than 2 Argalas.

>

> P.S: I am finding, many quotes in other texts (commentaries etc),

> that quotes many slokas of Parasara (and from the language and

> description style it seems that they are from BPHS, as most of them

> address Mitraya), but fail to find the same in BPHS. Either the

> current printed version of BPHS we have today is incomplete and many

> slokas are missing; It could also be possible that it contains may

> interpolated slokas.

>

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > I think it is other way round. Anargal is derived from the Sanskrit

> word

> > Argal and not the other way round. But the meaning is clear as you

> can see.

> >

> > Some commentators of Jaimini think that for argala to be strong

> three

> > planets should be involved.

> >

> > I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> adhyaaya 31

> > of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala cast by one

> graha

> > is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more than two grahas it

> is

> > called the best argala by the sages. So it is not only Jaimini who

> talks

> > about Argala to have to be cast by three grahas to give best

> effects.

> >

> > I think the meaning door bolt is better than meaning obstruction.

> > Sliding out of a door bolt removes obstruction and sliding it in

> can

> > introduce the obstruction. But even this is not a very good

> concept,

> > better call it an influence whether benefic or malefic being

> decided

> > by the nature of the planets casting argala.

> >

> > Personally, I think that saying that even sukha can be bondage for

> one

> > in search of true happiness may be rationalizing argala being

> viewed as

> > obstruction. Otherwise why should work (10th) obstruct Sukha. Even

> > Sadhana is work. I think that the virodh argala is more like a

> status

> > quo type of situation if equal number of planets are on either side.

> >

> > I do not find argala of the 5th house being given separately by

> > Parashara the shlokas indicating argalas are in succession and it

> is

> > only to be true to the Cchanda that it appears in a different

> shloka. If

> > you read the first shloka of the adhayaaya on argala in BPHS

> Maitreya

> > talks about the shubha effects of argalas and not obstructions, so

> > knowledge causing bondage etc. does not find support in Parashari

> or

> > Jaimini. I am sure that you might be quoting from some other text.

> Could

> > indicate the source of this hypothesis? This will help expand our

> > knowledge of Argala concept.

> >

> > I do not think planets in 11th cause virodh argala to argala cast

> by the

> > planet in the 4th. Could you please indicate the source for this

> statement?

> >

> > I do not think Jaimini said anything that is different to what

> Parashara

> > said. he wrote in Sutras and it is the translators that could have

> > missed on some interpretations if he appears to differ from

> Parashara.

> > By the way, I do not find anywhere in Jaimini sutras that he wanted

> to

> > teach concepts of Parashara to his students. Jaimini is stated to

> be one

> > amongst 18 pravartakas on Jyotish, including Parashara.

> >

> > There are many ( as many as 20 that I know of) commentaries on

> Jaimini

> > and sutras being difficult to interpret, the commentators have

> different

> > views on what Jaimini meant by one sutra or other. Most of the

> > knowledgeable ones who had recourse to the Vriddha Karikas, used

> them to

> > help interpretation of the sutras and some used Parashari to

> interpret them.

> >

> > Parashara does mention the argala cast by malefics in the 3rd.

> > Santanam/Ranjan Publication edtion does have the shloka to that

> effect.

> > Which edition are you referring to?

> >

> > No doubt BPHS tells about argala in its chapter on argalas but the

> > information that you are attributing to Parashara does not seem to

> > appear there. So will you kindly tell which of the 8 known editions

> of

> > BPHS you are referring to when indicating what Parashara said, that

> does

> > not seem to be the case in Santanam/ Ranjan Publication edition? If

> you

> > could also give the shlokas in support of your statements, that

> would be

> > welcome.

> >

> > Like you, I would also love any meaningful discussion on Argalas.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> > > Thanks for description.

> > > ==>

> > > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also means

> > > > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> > > influences.

> > > <==

> > > Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

> means 'continuous'

> > > or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and thus

> > > Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean chain

> or

> > > lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by you.

> These

> > > meanings too in essence point to original meaning 'obstruction'

> > > or 'bondage'.

> > > Literal word meaning:

> > > Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

> > >

> > > Argala Yoga

> > > ===========

> > > Rule -1:

> > >

> > > If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > > results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause Argala.

> > > (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets should be

> > > there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> > > 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> > > 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> > > 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> > > (Ubhayargala)

> > > i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

> Yoga

> > > (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it is

> > > Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

> malefic

> > > together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The same

> is

> > > true for 2nd and 11th.

> > >

> > > Now the question is-

> > > How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

> or 'Bondage'?!!

> > > (Argala)

> > > The Answer is -

> > > Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true happiness.

> > >

> > > Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per BPHS, if

> > > benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

> rich.

> > > If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will be

> > > poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11 at

> times

> > > the native will be rich and at some other point of time he will be

> > > searching for money suffering economic down falls.

> > >

> > > Rule -2

> > > There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

> Yogargala.

> > > It is stated below-

> > > If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > > results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also Argala

> > > Yoga results.

> > > As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th can

> be

> > > of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

> see,

> > > Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty).

> There is

> > > no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

> > >

> > > Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could have

> > > easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> > > Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> > > The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth, while 5th

> > > is related to knowledge. Here the item that caused 'obstruction'

> > > or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than wealth

> or

> > > the lack of it)

> > > If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> > > or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> > > intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a free man

> > > enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> > > If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will suffer 'obstruction'

> > > or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of intelligence.

> He

> > > too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys.

> This is

> > > Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> > > If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

> 5th,

> > > the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by lack

> of

> > > knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects and

> > > surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too will be

> > > denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> > > Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

> > >

> > > Virodhargala:

> > > =============

> > > There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or cancel)

> > > such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th (8th

> > > from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

> Argala

> > > caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is any

> > > planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to (destroy

> or

> > > cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

> Similarly

> > > if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

> opposition

> > > to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th (from

> > > Lagna).

> > > There are several other combinations as well that cause

> > > Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is no

> > > importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

> > >

> > > ==>

> > > > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > > different aspects of the concept.

> > > <==

> > > Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions but

> not

> > > Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort by

> an

> > > Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his students.

> > > For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house can

> > > cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala! (i.e.

> > > Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house). Where as

> > > Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed discussion

> of

> > > combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

> long.

> > > So I am stopping here.

> > >

> > > The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> > > understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion between

> > > Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In short I

> was

> > > seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> > > astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and horoscope

> > > readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala' anybody can

> > > have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was not

> the

> > > purpose)

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > >

> > > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

> means a

> > > check

> > > > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or influences.

> > > When it

> > > > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received and

> if

> > > > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort of

> > > > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One may

> > > equate

> > > > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will open the

> > > door of

> > > > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

> shubha

> > > or

> > > > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

> between

> > > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > different

> > > > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> > > amongst

> > > > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving argalas

> need

> > > to be

> > > > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> > > different

> > > > view on this.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the same? In

> > > what

> > > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> between

> > > the

> > > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > > opinion?

> > > > > Please clarify.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

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Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

I will provide the pdf with slokas and detailed explanations with in

2-3 days.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, Chandrashekhar

<chandrashekhar46 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh,

>

> There is no dispute that Parashara talks about argala from 5th and

> cancellation by that in the 9th. I do not find argala being cast by

1st

> and 7th bhava, in BPHS. Rather the reference is to when the Lagna,

> Arudha and the 7th from it receiving argalas causing the native to

> become famous and fortunate. Could you please let me know the

edition of

> BPHS that you are referring that has Argalas being cast from 1st

and 7th?

>

> I would also appreciate the sutras from Jaimini and the

commentator's

> view on those that talks of Argala from 4th being blocked by

virodha

> Argala from 11th the one from 2nd being blocked from one from the

9th

> and the one from the 11th being blocked by virodh argala from the

6th. I

> do have many commentaries on Jaimini sutras and Vriddha Karikas

with me

> but do not find this in any sutra, hence the request. I would also

> appreciate if you can give the name of the commentary and its

author to

> facilitate my understanding of what is said therein.

>

> If you interpret the shloka quoted, about argala by one planet

being

> weak, that by two planets being medium and the one cast by three

planets

> being the best one, in another way then of course I can not comment

on

> it. I still feel that " eka grahaa kanishThaa saa dvigrahaa

madhyamaa

> smritaa, argalaa dvyadhikotpanna munibhiH kathitottamaa " means

precisely

> what has been translated by R. Santanam. Perhaps a member who is

master

> of Sanskrit language would like to comment on the interpretation of

this

> shloka.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

>

>

> Sreenadh wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrasekhar ji,

> > I am collecting and studying all the available slokas related to

the

> > same. I will provide it as a pdf document soon (as a review of

> > introduction, aspect of signs & Argala discussed in Jaimini sutra

> > with all the quotes in Sanskrit).

> > As of now what I could find is -

> >

> > 1) As per BPHS,

> > Planets in 4-2-11 cam cause Argala. Planets in 10-12-3 can cause

> > Virodhargala. i.e. The combinations 4-10, 2-12, 11-3 are

important.

> > Note that these signs are equidistant from Lagna. The same is

> > supported by Jaimini as well. Also note that 1-2-3-4-5-6 forms the

> > non-visible half (Adirshyardha) of sky, and 7-8-9-10-11-12 forms

the

> > visible part (Drishyardha). Each house in Drishyardha is related

to

> > its corresponding house in Adirshyardha (as per sages). This

prompts

> > us to ask, then what about 1-7, 5-9, 6-8 houses?

> > In BPHS, Parasara also speaks about planets in weak planets in 7th

> > not causing Virodhargala (to Planets in Lagna). Thus it is clear

that

> > 1-7 combination is also considered. In a BPHS quote quoted in a

> > commentary of Jaimini sutra available with me (I couldn't find the

> > same sloka in printed version of BPHS), I could also find that

> > Parasara states about planets in 5th causing Argala, and planets

in

> > 9th causing Virodhargala. Thus 5-9 combination is also mentioned.

> > This statement about 5-9 combination is also supported by Jaimini.

> > The same text (the above mentioned commentary) again quotes a

> > Parasara sloka which states about Ketu in 9th causing Argala (A

> > similar quote is present in the printed version of BPHS as well).

> > This too is supported by Jaimini sutra. But both the text (BPHS

and

> > Jaimini sutra) speaks nothing about 6-8 combination.

> > Thus Argala-Virodhargala combination can happen for 1-7, 2-12, 3-

> > 11, 4-10, 5-9 and 6-8 (?) combinations.

> >

> > 2) Jaimini extends the Virdodhargala rule -

> > Jaimini sutra states that,

> > * planet in 11th (8th from 4th) can cause Virodhargala to the

> > Argala caused by planet in 4th.

> > * Planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) can cause Virodhargala to the

> > Argala caused by planet in 2nd.

> > * Planet in 6th (8th from 11th) can cause Virodhargala to the

> > Argala caused by the planet in 11th.

> >

> > Thus in essence the advice is " The planet in the 8th house from

> > the planet causing Argala also can cause Virodhargala " . This is an

> > extension, of the Argala concept provided by BPHS by Jaimini.

> >

> > 3) Yes, Both Parasara and Jaimini tells us that 2 or more malefics

> > in 3rd can cause Virodhargala (even though it is not clear that it

> > should be applied to Argala caused by which house). [Pardon, my

> > mistake in the previous mail]

> >

> > ==>

> > > I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> > > adhyaaya 31 of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the

argala

> > > cast by one graha is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more

> > > than two grahas it is called the best argala by the sages.

> > <==

> > I don't think the meaning of that sloka should be interpreted in

> > that way. Possibly it points to the results that should be

> > attributed, if there are one Argala (Argalas that does not gets

> > cancelled by Virodhargala) in a horoscope; 2 Argalas in a

horoscope;

> > or more than 2 Argalas.

> >

> > P.S: I am finding, many quotes in other texts (commentaries etc),

> > that quotes many slokas of Parasara (and from the language and

> > description style it seems that they are from BPHS, as most of

them

> > address Mitraya), but fail to find the same in BPHS. Either the

> > current printed version of BPHS we have today is incomplete and

many

> > slokas are missing; It could also be possible that it contains may

> > interpolated slokas.

> >

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > >

> > > I think it is other way round. Anargal is derived from the

Sanskrit

> > word

> > > Argal and not the other way round. But the meaning is clear as

you

> > can see.

> > >

> > > Some commentators of Jaimini think that for argala to be strong

> > three

> > > planets should be involved.

> > >

> > > I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> > adhyaaya 31

> > > of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala cast by

one

> > graha

> > > is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more than two grahas

it

> > is

> > > called the best argala by the sages. So it is not only Jaimini

who

> > talks

> > > about Argala to have to be cast by three grahas to give best

> > effects.

> > >

> > > I think the meaning door bolt is better than meaning

obstruction.

> > > Sliding out of a door bolt removes obstruction and sliding it in

> > can

> > > introduce the obstruction. But even this is not a very good

> > concept,

> > > better call it an influence whether benefic or malefic being

> > decided

> > > by the nature of the planets casting argala.

> > >

> > > Personally, I think that saying that even sukha can be bondage

for

> > one

> > > in search of true happiness may be rationalizing argala being

> > viewed as

> > > obstruction. Otherwise why should work (10th) obstruct Sukha.

Even

> > > Sadhana is work. I think that the virodh argala is more like a

> > status

> > > quo type of situation if equal number of planets are on either

side.

> > >

> > > I do not find argala of the 5th house being given separately by

> > > Parashara the shlokas indicating argalas are in succession and

it

> > is

> > > only to be true to the Cchanda that it appears in a different

> > shloka. If

> > > you read the first shloka of the adhayaaya on argala in BPHS

> > Maitreya

> > > talks about the shubha effects of argalas and not obstructions,

so

> > > knowledge causing bondage etc. does not find support in

Parashari

> > or

> > > Jaimini. I am sure that you might be quoting from some other

text.

> > Could

> > > indicate the source of this hypothesis? This will help expand

our

> > > knowledge of Argala concept.

> > >

> > > I do not think planets in 11th cause virodh argala to argala

cast

> > by the

> > > planet in the 4th. Could you please indicate the source for this

> > statement?

> > >

> > > I do not think Jaimini said anything that is different to what

> > Parashara

> > > said. he wrote in Sutras and it is the translators that could

have

> > > missed on some interpretations if he appears to differ from

> > Parashara.

> > > By the way, I do not find anywhere in Jaimini sutras that he

wanted

> > to

> > > teach concepts of Parashara to his students. Jaimini is stated

to

> > be one

> > > amongst 18 pravartakas on Jyotish, including Parashara.

> > >

> > > There are many ( as many as 20 that I know of) commentaries on

> > Jaimini

> > > and sutras being difficult to interpret, the commentators have

> > different

> > > views on what Jaimini meant by one sutra or other. Most of the

> > > knowledgeable ones who had recourse to the Vriddha Karikas, used

> > them to

> > > help interpretation of the sutras and some used Parashari to

> > interpret them.

> > >

> > > Parashara does mention the argala cast by malefics in the 3rd.

> > > Santanam/Ranjan Publication edtion does have the shloka to that

> > effect.

> > > Which edition are you referring to?

> > >

> > > No doubt BPHS tells about argala in its chapter on argalas but

the

> > > information that you are attributing to Parashara does not seem

to

> > > appear there. So will you kindly tell which of the 8 known

editions

> > of

> > > BPHS you are referring to when indicating what Parashara said,

that

> > does

> > > not seem to be the case in Santanam/ Ranjan Publication

edition? If

> > you

> > > could also give the shlokas in support of your statements, that

> > would be

> > > welcome.

> > >

> > > Like you, I would also love any meaningful discussion on

Argalas.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> > > > Thanks for description.

> > > > ==>

> > > > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

means

> > > > > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> > > > influences.

> > > > <==

> > > > Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

> > means 'continuous'

> > > > or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and

thus

> > > > Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean

chain

> > or

> > > > lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by

you.

> > These

> > > > meanings too in essence point to original

meaning 'obstruction'

> > > > or 'bondage'.

> > > > Literal word meaning:

> > > > Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

> > > >

> > > > Argala Yoga

> > > > ===========

> > > > Rule -1:

> > > >

> > > > If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala

Yoga

> > > > results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause

Argala.

> > > > (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets

should be

> > > > there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> > > > 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> > > > 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> > > > 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> > > > (Ubhayargala)

> > > > i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

> > Yoga

> > > > (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it

is

> > > > Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

> > malefic

> > > > together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The

same

> > is

> > > > true for 2nd and 11th.

> > > >

> > > > Now the question is-

> > > > How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

> > or 'Bondage'?!!

> > > > (Argala)

> > > > The Answer is -

> > > > Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true

happiness.

> > > >

> > > > Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per

BPHS, if

> > > > benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

> > rich.

> > > > If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will

be

> > > > poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11

at

> > times

> > > > the native will be rich and at some other point of time he

will be

> > > > searching for money suffering economic down falls.

> > > >

> > > > Rule -2

> > > > There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

> > Yogargala.

> > > > It is stated below-

> > > > If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > > > results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also

Argala

> > > > Yoga results.

> > > > As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th

can

> > be

> > > > of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

> > see,

> > > > Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty).

> > There is

> > > > no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

> > > >

> > > > Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could

have

> > > > easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> > > > Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> > > > The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth,

while 5th

> > > > is related to knowledge. Here the item that

caused 'obstruction'

> > > > or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than

wealth

> > or

> > > > the lack of it)

> > > > If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will

suffer 'obstruction'

> > > > or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> > > > intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a

free man

> > > > enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> > > > If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will

suffer 'obstruction'

> > > > or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of

intelligence.

> > He

> > > > too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys.

> > This is

> > > > Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> > > > If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

> > 5th,

> > > > the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by

lack

> > of

> > > > knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects

and

> > > > surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too

will be

> > > > denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> > > > Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

> > > >

> > > > Virodhargala:

> > > > =============

> > > > There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or

cancel)

> > > > such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th

(8th

> > > > from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

> > Argala

> > > > caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is

any

> > > > planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to

(destroy

> > or

> > > > cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

> > Similarly

> > > > if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

> > opposition

> > > > to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th

(from

> > > > Lagna).

> > > > There are several other combinations as well that cause

> > > > Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is

no

> > > > importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

> > > >

> > > > ==>

> > > > > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > > > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > > > different aspects of the concept.

> > > > <==

> > > > Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions

but

> > not

> > > > Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort

by

> > an

> > > > Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his

students.

> > > > For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house

can

> > > > cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala!

(i.e.

> > > > Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house).

Where as

> > > > Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed

discussion

> > of

> > > > combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

> > long.

> > > > So I am stopping here.

> > > >

> > > > The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> > > > understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion

between

> > > > Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In

short I

> > was

> > > > seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> > > > astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and

horoscope

> > > > readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala'

anybody can

> > > > have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was

not

> > the

> > > > purpose)

> > > > Love,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

> > means a

> > > > check

> > > > > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

influences.

> > > > When it

> > > > > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received

and

> > if

> > > > > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort

of

> > > > > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One

may

> > > > equate

> > > > > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will

open the

> > > > door of

> > > > > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

> > shubha

> > > > or

> > > > > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

> > between

> > > > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > > different

> > > > > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> > > > amongst

> > > > > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving

argalas

> > need

> > > > to be

> > > > > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> > > > different

> > > > > view on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the

same? In

> > > > what

> > > > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> > between

> > > > the

> > > > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > > > opinion?

> > > > > > Please clarify.

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -------------------------

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release

Date:

> > > > 6/4/2007 6:43 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh,

 

I shall be much obliged.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Sreenadh wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar ji,

> I will provide the pdf with slokas and detailed explanations with in

> 2-3 days.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > There is no dispute that Parashara talks about argala from 5th and

> > cancellation by that in the 9th. I do not find argala being cast by

> 1st

> > and 7th bhava, in BPHS. Rather the reference is to when the Lagna,

> > Arudha and the 7th from it receiving argalas causing the native to

> > become famous and fortunate. Could you please let me know the

> edition of

> > BPHS that you are referring that has Argalas being cast from 1st

> and 7th?

> >

> > I would also appreciate the sutras from Jaimini and the

> commentator's

> > view on those that talks of Argala from 4th being blocked by

> virodha

> > Argala from 11th the one from 2nd being blocked from one from the

> 9th

> > and the one from the 11th being blocked by virodh argala from the

> 6th. I

> > do have many commentaries on Jaimini sutras and Vriddha Karikas

> with me

> > but do not find this in any sutra, hence the request. I would also

> > appreciate if you can give the name of the commentary and its

> author to

> > facilitate my understanding of what is said therein.

> >

> > If you interpret the shloka quoted, about argala by one planet

> being

> > weak, that by two planets being medium and the one cast by three

> planets

> > being the best one, in another way then of course I can not comment

> on

> > it. I still feel that " eka grahaa kanishThaa saa dvigrahaa

> madhyamaa

> > smritaa, argalaa dvyadhikotpanna munibhiH kathitottamaa " means

> precisely

> > what has been translated by R. Santanam. Perhaps a member who is

> master

> > of Sanskrit language would like to comment on the interpretation of

> this

> > shloka.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji,

> > > I am collecting and studying all the available slokas related to

> the

> > > same. I will provide it as a pdf document soon (as a review of

> > > introduction, aspect of signs & Argala discussed in Jaimini sutra

> > > with all the quotes in Sanskrit).

> > > As of now what I could find is -

> > >

> > > 1) As per BPHS,

> > > Planets in 4-2-11 cam cause Argala. Planets in 10-12-3 can cause

> > > Virodhargala. i.e. The combinations 4-10, 2-12, 11-3 are

> important.

> > > Note that these signs are equidistant from Lagna. The same is

> > > supported by Jaimini as well. Also note that 1-2-3-4-5-6 forms the

> > > non-visible half (Adirshyardha) of sky, and 7-8-9-10-11-12 forms

> the

> > > visible part (Drishyardha). Each house in Drishyardha is related

> to

> > > its corresponding house in Adirshyardha (as per sages). This

> prompts

> > > us to ask, then what about 1-7, 5-9, 6-8 houses?

> > > In BPHS, Parasara also speaks about planets in weak planets in 7th

> > > not causing Virodhargala (to Planets in Lagna). Thus it is clear

> that

> > > 1-7 combination is also considered. In a BPHS quote quoted in a

> > > commentary of Jaimini sutra available with me (I couldn't find the

> > > same sloka in printed version of BPHS), I could also find that

> > > Parasara states about planets in 5th causing Argala, and planets

> in

> > > 9th causing Virodhargala. Thus 5-9 combination is also mentioned.

> > > This statement about 5-9 combination is also supported by Jaimini.

> > > The same text (the above mentioned commentary) again quotes a

> > > Parasara sloka which states about Ketu in 9th causing Argala (A

> > > similar quote is present in the printed version of BPHS as well).

> > > This too is supported by Jaimini sutra. But both the text (BPHS

> and

> > > Jaimini sutra) speaks nothing about 6-8 combination.

> > > Thus Argala-Virodhargala combination can happen for 1-7, 2-12, 3-

> > > 11, 4-10, 5-9 and 6-8 (?) combinations.

> > >

> > > 2) Jaimini extends the Virdodhargala rule -

> > > Jaimini sutra states that,

> > > * planet in 11th (8th from 4th) can cause Virodhargala to the

> > > Argala caused by planet in 4th.

> > > * Planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) can cause Virodhargala to the

> > > Argala caused by planet in 2nd.

> > > * Planet in 6th (8th from 11th) can cause Virodhargala to the

> > > Argala caused by the planet in 11th.

> > >

> > > Thus in essence the advice is " The planet in the 8th house from

> > > the planet causing Argala also can cause Virodhargala " . This is an

> > > extension, of the Argala concept provided by BPHS by Jaimini.

> > >

> > > 3) Yes, Both Parasara and Jaimini tells us that 2 or more malefics

> > > in 3rd can cause Virodhargala (even though it is not clear that it

> > > should be applied to Argala caused by which house). [Pardon, my

> > > mistake in the previous mail]

> > >

> > > ==>

> > > > I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> > > > adhyaaya 31 of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the

> argala

> > > > cast by one graha is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more

> > > > than two grahas it is called the best argala by the sages.

> > > <==

> > > I don't think the meaning of that sloka should be interpreted in

> > > that way. Possibly it points to the results that should be

> > > attributed, if there are one Argala (Argalas that does not gets

> > > cancelled by Virodhargala) in a horoscope; 2 Argalas in a

> horoscope;

> > > or more than 2 Argalas.

> > >

> > > P.S: I am finding, many quotes in other texts (commentaries etc),

> > > that quotes many slokas of Parasara (and from the language and

> > > description style it seems that they are from BPHS, as most of

> them

> > > address Mitraya), but fail to find the same in BPHS. Either the

> > > current printed version of BPHS we have today is incomplete and

> many

> > > slokas are missing; It could also be possible that it contains may

> > > interpolated slokas.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > >

> > > > I think it is other way round. Anargal is derived from the

> Sanskrit

> > > word

> > > > Argal and not the other way round. But the meaning is clear as

> you

> > > can see.

> > > >

> > > > Some commentators of Jaimini think that for argala to be strong

> > > three

> > > > planets should be involved.

> > > >

> > > > I would also like to draw your kind attention to shloka 7 of

> > > adhyaaya 31

> > > > of BPHS, where Parashara clearly says that the argala cast by

> one

> > > graha

> > > > is weak by two grahas it is medium and by more than two grahas

> it

> > > is

> > > > called the best argala by the sages. So it is not only Jaimini

> who

> > > talks

> > > > about Argala to have to be cast by three grahas to give best

> > > effects.

> > > >

> > > > I think the meaning door bolt is better than meaning

> obstruction.

> > > > Sliding out of a door bolt removes obstruction and sliding it in

> > > can

> > > > introduce the obstruction. But even this is not a very good

> > > concept,

> > > > better call it an influence whether benefic or malefic being

> > > decided

> > > > by the nature of the planets casting argala.

> > > >

> > > > Personally, I think that saying that even sukha can be bondage

> for

> > > one

> > > > in search of true happiness may be rationalizing argala being

> > > viewed as

> > > > obstruction. Otherwise why should work (10th) obstruct Sukha.

> Even

> > > > Sadhana is work. I think that the virodh argala is more like a

> > > status

> > > > quo type of situation if equal number of planets are on either

> side.

> > > >

> > > > I do not find argala of the 5th house being given separately by

> > > > Parashara the shlokas indicating argalas are in succession and

> it

> > > is

> > > > only to be true to the Cchanda that it appears in a different

> > > shloka. If

> > > > you read the first shloka of the adhayaaya on argala in BPHS

> > > Maitreya

> > > > talks about the shubha effects of argalas and not obstructions,

> so

> > > > knowledge causing bondage etc. does not find support in

> Parashari

> > > or

> > > > Jaimini. I am sure that you might be quoting from some other

> text.

> > > Could

> > > > indicate the source of this hypothesis? This will help expand

> our

> > > > knowledge of Argala concept.

> > > >

> > > > I do not think planets in 11th cause virodh argala to argala

> cast

> > > by the

> > > > planet in the 4th. Could you please indicate the source for this

> > > statement?

> > > >

> > > > I do not think Jaimini said anything that is different to what

> > > Parashara

> > > > said. he wrote in Sutras and it is the translators that could

> have

> > > > missed on some interpretations if he appears to differ from

> > > Parashara.

> > > > By the way, I do not find anywhere in Jaimini sutras that he

> wanted

> > > to

> > > > teach concepts of Parashara to his students. Jaimini is stated

> to

> > > be one

> > > > amongst 18 pravartakas on Jyotish, including Parashara.

> > > >

> > > > There are many ( as many as 20 that I know of) commentaries on

> > > Jaimini

> > > > and sutras being difficult to interpret, the commentators have

> > > different

> > > > views on what Jaimini meant by one sutra or other. Most of the

> > > > knowledgeable ones who had recourse to the Vriddha Karikas, used

> > > them to

> > > > help interpretation of the sutras and some used Parashari to

> > > interpret them.

> > > >

> > > > Parashara does mention the argala cast by malefics in the 3rd.

> > > > Santanam/Ranjan Publication edtion does have the shloka to that

> > > effect.

> > > > Which edition are you referring to?

> > > >

> > > > No doubt BPHS tells about argala in its chapter on argalas but

> the

> > > > information that you are attributing to Parashara does not seem

> to

> > > > appear there. So will you kindly tell which of the 8 known

> editions

> > > of

> > > > BPHS you are referring to when indicating what Parashara said,

> that

> > > does

> > > > not seem to be the case in Santanam/ Ranjan Publication

> edition? If

> > > you

> > > > could also give the shlokas in support of your statements, that

> > > would be

> > > > welcome.

> > > >

> > > > Like you, I would also love any meaningful discussion on

> Argalas.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandra Shekhar ji,

> > > > > Thanks for description.

> > > > > ==>

> > > > > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

> means

> > > > > > a check or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> > > > > influences.

> > > > > <==

> > > > > Yes, the better popular word is 'Anargala' which

> > > means 'continuous'

> > > > > or 'without obstruction'. Argala is opposite of this word and

> thus

> > > > > Argala means 'obstruction' or 'bondage'. It could also mean

> chain

> > > or

> > > > > lock or wooden bolt or pin for fastening a door as told by

> you.

> > > These

> > > > > meanings too in essence point to original

> meaning 'obstruction'

> > > > > or 'bondage'.

> > > > > Literal word meaning:

> > > > > Argala = Obstruction; Aanrgala = Without obstruction

> > > > >

> > > > > Argala Yoga

> > > > > ===========

> > > > > Rule -1:

> > > > >

> > > > > If there are any planets in 4-2-11 house (from Lagna) Argala

> Yoga

> > > > > results. Any number of planets (1, 2, 3 or more) can cause

> Argala.

> > > > > (As per BPHS it is not necessary that 2 or more planets

> should be

> > > > > there to cause Argala). There could be 3 types of Argala-

> > > > > 1) Caused by benefics (Subhargala)

> > > > > 2) Caused by malefics (Papargala)

> > > > > 3) Caused by the placement of benefics and malefics together

> > > > > (Ubhayargala)

> > > > > i.e. If there is any (one or more) benefic in 4th it is Argala

> > > Yoga

> > > > > (Subhargala). If there is any (one or more) malefic in 4th it

> is

> > > > > Argala Yoga (Papargala). If there is one or more benefic and

> > > malefic

> > > > > together placed in 4th it is Argala Yoga (Ubhayargala). The

> same

> > > is

> > > > > true for 2nd and 11th.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the question is-

> > > > > How a benefic placed in 4th can cause 'Obstruction'

> > > or 'Bondage'?!!

> > > > > (Argala)

> > > > > The Answer is -

> > > > > Even wealth can become bondage, if search is for true

> happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Note that 4-2-11 are houses that indicate wealth. As per

> BPHS, if

> > > > > benefics are present in 4-2-11 (Subhargala) the native will be

> > > rich.

> > > > > If malefics are present in 4-2-11 (Papargala) the native will

> be

> > > > > poor. If benefics and malefics are together placed in 4-2-11

> at

> > > times

> > > > > the native will be rich and at some other point of time he

> will be

> > > > > searching for money suffering economic down falls.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rule -2

> > > > > There is another kind of Argala known as Triconargala or

> > > Yogargala.

> > > > > It is stated below-

> > > > > If there are any planets in 5th house (from Lagna) Argala Yoga

> > > > > results. In the same way if there is Ketu in 9th then also

> Argala

> > > > > Yoga results.

> > > > > As told earlier Argala due to the placement of planets in 5th

> can

> > > be

> > > > > of 3 types - Subhargala, Papargala and Ubhayargala. As you can

> > > see,

> > > > > Argala caused by Ke in 9th is a Papargala (causing poverty).

> > > There is

> > > > > no concept of Subhargala, or Ubhayargala related to 9th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Why this type of Argala is stated separately? Parasara could

> have

> > > > > easily stated, " Placement of any Planet in 2-4-5-11 will cause

> > > > > Argala " . But he separated 5th from the 4-2-11, why?

> > > > > The reason for this is the 4-2-11 are related to wealth,

> while 5th

> > > > > is related to knowledge. Here the item that

> caused 'obstruction'

> > > > > or 'bondage' is knowledge or the lack of it. (rather than

> wealth

> > > or

> > > > > the lack of it)

> > > > > If there is a benefic in 5th, the native will

> suffer 'obstruction'

> > > > > or 'bondage' caused by too much knowledge or dependence on

> > > > > intelligence. He will be denied of true happiness, that a

> free man

> > > > > enjoys. This is Trikonargala and is a Subhargala.

> > > > > If there is a malefic in 5th, the native will

> suffer 'obstruction'

> > > > > or 'bondage' caused by lack of knowledge or lack of

> intelligence.

> > > He

> > > > > too will be denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys.

> > > This is

> > > > > Trikonargala and is a Papargala.

> > > > > If there is one or more malefic and benefic together placed in

> > > 5th,

> > > > > the native will suffer 'obstruction' or 'bondage' caused by

> lack

> > > of

> > > > > knowledge or lack of intelligence at times in some subjects

> and

> > > > > surplus of it at other instances in other subjects. He too

> will be

> > > > > denied of true happiness, that a free man enjoys. This is

> > > > > Trikonargala and is an Ubhayargala.

> > > > >

> > > > > Virodhargala:

> > > > > =============

> > > > > There are several combination that can oppose (destroy or

> cancel)

> > > > > such Argala Yogas. For example if there is any planet in 11th

> (8th

> > > > > from 4th) it can cause opposition to (destroy or cancel) the

> > > Argala

> > > > > caused by a planet in 4th (from Lagna). Similarly if there is

> any

> > > > > planet in 9th (8th from 2nd) it can cause opposition to

> (destroy

> > > or

> > > > > cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 2th (from Lagna).

> > > Similarly

> > > > > if there is any planet in 6th (8th from 11th) it can cause

> > > opposition

> > > > > to (destroy or cancel) the Argala caused by a planet in 11th

> (from

> > > > > Lagna).

> > > > > There are several other combinations as well that cause

> > > > > Virodhargala. (Remember that if there is no Argala, there is

> no

> > > > > importance to the concept of Virodhargala as well)

> > > > >

> > > > > ==>

> > > > > > I do not think there is any divergence of opinion between

> > > > > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > > > > different aspects of the concept.

> > > > > <==

> > > > > Some combinations that causes Virodhargala, Jaimini mentions

> but

> > > not

> > > > > Parasara. This is unusual, because Jaimini sutra is an effort

> by

> > > an

> > > > > Acharya (Jaimini) to teach Parasara's concepts to his

> students.

> > > > > For example Jaimini says that 2 or more malefics in 3rd house

> can

> > > > > cause Virodhargala, and not even mention to which Argala!

> (i.e.

> > > > > Argala caused by the placement of planet in which house).

> Where as

> > > > > Parasara does not even mention such a thing. Detailed

> discussion

> > > of

> > > > > combinations that cause Virodhargala will make this mail very

> > > long.

> > > > > So I am stopping here.

> > > > >

> > > > > The whole purpose of my initial mail was to have a better

> > > > > understanding of the concepts, use, difference of opinion

> between

> > > > > Parasara and Jaimini, logics related to the same etc. In

> short I

> > > was

> > > > > seeking expert opinion about this concept of Argala from the

> > > > > astrologers who use it in their daily predictions and

> horoscope

> > > > > readings. (The beginners knowledge of 'What is Argala'

> anybody can

> > > > > have by referring BPHS on some online article once. That was

> not

> > > the

> > > > > purpose)

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sreenadh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Argal means a wooden bolt or pin fastening a door. It also

> > > means a

> > > > > check

> > > > > > or obstruction. So Argalas are like obstructions or

> influences.

> > > > > When it

> > > > > > is shubha grahas casting argala good influence is received

> and

> > > if

> > > > > > ashubha grahas do that the influence is not good so a sort

> of

> > > > > > obstruction. Malefic argala from 3rd is however good. One

> may

> > > > > equate

> > > > > > argalas to the door bolt and whether its operation will

> open the

> > > > > door of

> > > > > > opportunity or close it will depend on whether the argala is

> > > shubha

> > > > > or

> > > > > > ashubha. I do not think there is any divergence of opinion

> > > between

> > > > > > Jaimini and Parashara, on argala only they might highlight

> > > > > different

> > > > > > aspects of the concept. Most of the difference in concept is

> > > > > amongst

> > > > > > astrologers as to whether the number of grahas giving

> argalas

> > > need

> > > > > to be

> > > > > > three or more or not and so on. Of course other could hold a

> > > > > different

> > > > > > view on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sreenadh wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > What is Argala? What is the popular opinion about the

> same? In

> > > > > what

> > > > > > > situations it is applicable? Are there any contradictions

> > > between

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > definition of Argala by Parasara and Jaimini? What is your

> > > > > opinion?

> > > > > > > Please clarify.

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > > >

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