Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. / the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Tarun, Traditional Astrology is now "old hat"... Predictive Astrology has made vast strides forward,and has now evolved vastly more accurate methods of prognosis... I guess Raman's and KN Rao's astrology is just some hocus-pocus,and cannot predict as accurately as K.P. Pl. do not waste the time of us members of the K.P. Group... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo ; jyotish-vidya ; ; ; Kalidasa ; marital_astrology ; occultandhealing ; sohamsa ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2007 10:15:48 PM Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join. Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/ the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 dEAR SIR I have learnt the usage of division charts from my guru sri H.R. seshadri iyer of Bangalore who was running " college of astrology " in Bangalore.My guru taught me to apply all yogas such as gajakesari yogas in division charts.It will surely materialize. But i think we can not find small happenings in life from division chart.For that KP is the best method. B.Indira , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Hello Friends, > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. > > One debate is going on in forum. > > / > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. > > I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > >> How you use the divison charts. > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > Regards, > > Tarun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Dear Lajmi ji, i mistakenly posted this mail to KP forum actually. Yes I am learning KP , and i m in inital stage so trying to undrstand my chart too so i posted a query earlier day. :-) Donot mind abt this Dvision chart's mail Regards, Tarun - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:32 PM Re: Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join. Dear Tarun, Traditional Astrology is now "old hat"... Predictive Astrology has made vast strides forward,and has now evolved vastly more accurate methods of prognosis... I guess Raman's and KN Rao's astrology is just some hocus-pocus,and cannot predict as accurately as K.P. Pl. do not waste the time of us members of the K.P. Group... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo > ; jyotish-vidya ; ; ; Kalidasa ; marital_astrology ; occultandhealing ; sohamsa ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2007 10:15:48 PM Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join. Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/ the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Dear Shri Tarun "K_p_System" is a KP system based astro-internet forum. As one is aware KP does not consider divisional charts, unlike in traditional method. Astrology is a complex and intricate subject, requiring deep and consistent research, dedication and hard work. We are in the midst of practising and learning KP. If at all I find time, I may try to join the divisonal chart section and try to learn its intricacies. But one is sure that Prophet Guruji Prof KSK had tested time and again the preachings and teachings of traditional astrology. Had there been accurate results in traditional method, probably the world would not have seen KP's system and its usage. With due respects to one and all Regards Viswanathh ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. / the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 dear tarun, sujata and mr. rao are right. kp is evolved because traditional astrology believes only in post mortem study and remedy....rather predictions are not the focus. i suggest you to focus only on kp and topics related with kp only. kp is the only right track available to start an astrological journey. any way.....anyone in the group interested in sharing nadi leaf readings is welcome to share views and observations. i have also encountered some significant observations regarding nadi leaf readings to which i,m really eager to share with anyone genuine. thnx and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Dear Tarun Followers of KP do notttt use divisional charts at all. ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. / the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Dear Subhash, Who are JG, BM, VA? Don't recognise any names from those initials. Unless you mean JG as Jyotish Group, and VA as Vedic Astrology list? In which case what is BM? Thanks - Sateesh. ======== - Subhash Dulani vedic astrology Friday, July 13, 2007 9:14 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join. Hi Tarun, STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and what is big about the topic or the group with such a dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have showed. Please stop advertising for other groups and taking the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this group. This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the debate or proving some one wrong or right. Hope you undersatnd my point. --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: > Hello Friends, > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > Chart usage. > > One debate is going on in forum. > > / > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > the Division charts. > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > >> How you use the divison charts. > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > Divison Charts. > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > Regards, > > Tarun > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Recent Activity a.. 29New Members b.. 1New Photos Visit Your Group Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Join a yoga group and take the stress out of your life. Get info and support on Samsung HDTVs and devices. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Namaste, " Half knowledge is dangerous " , I joined this group to develop my knowledge and to improve my predictive ability already present in me. I hope similar are with the others. There may be hidden side of things, but for a person like me who is under process of learning; any controversial / advanced theories may be laborious to digest . I have not reached the level of selective discord. Please avoid such posts reaching my mail box ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. / the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Subhash, Please do not mislead the forum for your prejudices. Well - Shri tarun's mail was not offending; and Irrespective of Ban of Shri Bhaskar - we need not redicule his opinion. BTW - I had fight with him, but I respect his opinions. Why should you be getting into the karmas - unless you have prejudices. Let me set the record right - one incident does not become the conclusive judge on anyon'e abilities. There are so many astrologers on ; and the discussion is very garcefully done there. But in that discussion - SJC's interpretation model was rediculed, as if Shri Sanjay or Shri PVR could not prove (facts are quite contrary - as few years back - both explained with quite explicit clarity the application of D charts). I can tell you all these because - I was one of the participant on earlier thread on SJC list; and now on . As jyotish student - we are concerned with jyotish knowledge and no forum is restricted for query handling. Generally, most forums are meant for jyotish discussions - not answering queries of unknown natives. I request you once again, to avoid misleading forum members for any group or group of astrologers for your personal prejudices. regards / Prafulla Gang http://www.prafulla.net Diplomacy - n. the patriotic act of lying for one's country / community. ************************************************ > > makaras > Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:08:54 +0100 > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. > Plz Join. > > > Dear Subhash, > > Who are JG, BM, VA? Don't recognise any names from those initials. > > Unless you mean JG as Jyotish Group, and VA as Vedic Astrology list? > > In which case what is BM? > > Thanks - Sateesh. > > ======== > > - > Subhash Dulani > vedic astrology > Friday, July 13, 2007 9:14 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. > Plz Join. > > > Hi Tarun, > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > showed. > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > group. > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: > >> Hello Friends, >> >> All are invited to join the debate going on Divison >> Chart usage. >> >> One debate is going on in forum. >> >> / >> >> the debate is going on from last 2 weeks >> >> The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. >> >> Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior >> astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri >> Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using >> the Division charts. >> >> I please you all and join the debate writing your >> way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> >>>> How you use the divison charts. >>>> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >>>> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in >> Divison Charts. >> >> If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic >> , please share your views, so that it is clear to >> all tht wht is right and what is wrong. >> >> What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri >> Pradeep ji is correct with his views. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tarun >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> > > Recent Activity > a.. 29New Members > b.. 1New Photos > Visit Your Group > Ads on > Learn more now. > > Reach customers > > searching for you. > > > Join a yoga group > > and take the stress > > out of your life. > > > Get info and support > > on Samsung HDTVs > > and devices. > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Mr. Dulani, This invitation is to VA because Pradeep is quoting Shri Sanjay Rath wrong. Is it bad to post in Sanjay ji's forum that he is quoting wrong and his shishyas must tell the people what is right and what is wrong. If you think that Sanjay Ji is wrong in his context, so you replied to stop me inviting people to quote Parampara Teachings. Regards, Tarun vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10 wrote: > > Hi Tarun, > > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > showed. > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > group. > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > > > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > Hello Friends, > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > > Chart usage. > > > > One debate is going on in forum. > > > > / > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > > the Division charts. > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > > > >> How you use the divison charts. > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > > Divison Charts. > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Most of the people attacking this BM are themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time, then target him, the way You are doing at the moment. One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is always ready to help the younger astrologers,with his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups. I have made enquiries, before replying You,and found that he has been banned only from this Group. Therefore check your facts before misquoting. Whether his hands remain dirty for typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here, remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness in any one, because they have not been grromed this way. You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and when one is not able to reply back. Sharma Bhau vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10 wrote: > > Hi Tarun, > > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > showed. > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > group. > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > > > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: > > > Hello Friends, > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > > Chart usage. > > > > One debate is going on in forum. > > > > / > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > > the Division charts. > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > > > >> How you use the divison charts. > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > > Divison Charts. > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tarun > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Sharma ji, Very well said, yes he is harsh many times but he is of the most helpful astrologers and he is against the astrologers who are misguiding people. Regards, Tarun vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra " <sharma_balachandra wrote: > > Most of the people attacking this BM are > themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is > what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from > him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time, > then target him, the way You are doing at the moment. > One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is > the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is > always ready to help the younger astrologers,with > his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on > numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups. > > I have made enquiries, > before replying You,and found that he has been banned > only from this Group. Therefore check your facts > before misquoting. > Whether his hands remain dirty for > typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or > ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about > a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here, > remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes > of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness > in any one, because they have not been grromed this way. > > You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and > when one is not able to reply back. > > Sharma Bhau > > > > > > vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > > > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > > showed. > > > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > > group. > > > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > > > Chart usage. > > > > > > One debate is going on in forum. > > > > > > / > > > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > > > the Division charts. > > > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > > > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > > > > > >> How you use the divison charts. > > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > > > Divison Charts. > > > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Mr. Balachandra Sharma: We have no objection to your supporting BM or anyone else for that matter. But you could have avoided using terms like " He is the only true astrologer in all the forums " which is ridiculous. Either you have vested interests in saying so, or you are completely ignorant of what is happening in these forums........What do you have to say about the many astrologers who are giving good quality advices in these forums like Prashatji, Guptaji, Rafalji, Mr. Raghavam, etc.? They are all doing so without expecting anything in return. Regarding depth of astrological knowledge......I am sure you must be really blind not to note that we have one of the best astrological brains in the form of Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHIJI. There should not be any comparison between different astrological experts, but when you put someone on a pedestal without regard to the other experts, you are making a great mistake here. Kindly do not do that. As far I know, Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji and Pandit Arjunji are the only persons who are traditional and vedic in the true sense of the word as they live by vedic traditions. Are they not " True " astrologers in your view? I think many members of these forums will also agree with me that Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji's views are considered to be " The Final " word regarding complicated concepts/ applications in astrology and dharma shastra, and his contributions to the forum by way of his illuminating posts are considered a blessing to the whole group. He is very strict about vedic protocols, but he has a gentle and firm way of expressing himself without rubbing others unnecessarily in the wrong way. His posts have dispelled the anxieties of many members which is the " true " purpose of astrology - to give hope to gloomy minds when Fate is testing them. How did you ignore all these stalwarts when you said BM is the only True astrologer in all these forums? You can support anybody of your choice; but you should not unwittingly insult other experts while supporting the person of your choice. Let us not have such controversies here. Best wishes. Mohanraaam. vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra " <sharma_balachandra wrote: > > Most of the people attacking this BM are > themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is > what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from > him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time, > then target him, the way You are doing at the moment. > One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is > the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is > always ready to help the younger astrologers,with > his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on > numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups. > > I have made enquiries, > before replying You,and found that he has been banned > only from this Group. Therefore check your facts > before misquoting. > Whether his hands remain dirty for > typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or > ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about > a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here, > remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes > of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness > in any one, because they have not been grromed this way. > > You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and > when one is not able to reply back. > > Sharma Bhau > > > > > > vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > > > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > > showed. > > > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > > group. > > > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > > > Chart usage. > > > > > > One debate is going on in forum. > > > > > > / > > > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > > > the Division charts. > > > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > > > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > > > > > >> How you use the divison charts. > > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > > > Divison Charts. > > > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Mr. Sharma: I have not written for the reason you have alluded (to quote you: " Because your name was not taken as a great astrologer " ). No Sir...You are mistaken. I do not maintain a servile attitude towards anybody as you had written in your mail, and am not developing " camps " . I wrote of Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji only because I know his greatness from first hand experience. This is admiration and not servitude. Even you seem to accept he is a class apart (Or am I mistaken here? Your mail was not clear on this count....). So, assuming that you consider Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji, PVR, BV Raman, KN Rao, etc. as class apart, where do we differ in that at all? You must note that among these stalwarts only ONE in this list is still contributing here actively....and that is Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji...That is why I took his name. He is one of the least controversial figures in this group who is universally respected. (He is a leading contributor in various other groups and forums; that is another matter!) Only your word " HE IS THE ONLY TRUE ASTROLOGER IN THESE FORUMS " about BM prompted my mail; let other members decide if this is not an insult to the stalwarts who squeeze out time between their tight schedules just to enlighten all of us? I am also pained by mushrooming of ill-trained and incompetent astrologers just like your good self. You have asked where I was when people attacked BM? To be honest, BM himself can be aggressive in his defence, and he needs no one to speak for him. In fact, his style is sometimes unnecessarily frictional and challenging. So, I felt no need to speak up for him. For that matter, did you write in support of Dakshinamoorthiji when he was maligned some time in the past? It was only Pandit Arjunji, myself, and other members who wrote in his support. The point I am raising is.....everybody has his/ her own favourites. But, we never said " HE IS THE ONLY TRUE ASTROLOGER " about Dakshinamoorthiji. Did we? It was the tone of your mail rather than the content that prompted me to write the mail. Anyway, this is an unnecessary controversy here. You people need not have " Canvassed " for other group discussions in this group - especially when that person has been banned from this group for his unsatisfactory conduct or unnecessarily harsh and challenging posts. He must have been banned for a good reason, and canvassing for such a person will naturally invite brick bats from other members who would have been offended by him in the past. Best wishes. Mohanraaam. vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra " <sharma_balachandra wrote: > > Dear Mr.Mohanraam, > > Where was your voice when BM was targetted by your > friend ? When he called him dirty, zealous, and > other terms, why were you quiet ? This type > of indiscriminate and dispersed sense of justice > does not behove of you, neither grants any advisory > role to You. > > It is strange that you raise voice when your name was > not taken as a great astrologer, while others was. > The names You have taken,Rafal,Dakshinamoorthy and > Arjun Pt. are a class apart. We are not talking of > Rath,PVR,BV raman,KN rao or others of their class. > Lets not vile or defile them. > When I addressed the matter,it was targetted at the > wanton growth and breeding of untruthful astrologers > who are not a blessing, but a curse to the society. > > I would request you to practise first before You preach, > and not use the preaching machinery only, where your > own vested interest suffers. > Talk when any astologer is spoken bad of, not just to those > with whom you keep servile attitude. Do not nurture campism > on these Lists. > > Sharma Bhau. > > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Balachandra Sharma: > > > > We have no objection to your supporting BM or anyone else for that > > matter. But you could have avoided using terms like " He is the only > > true astrologer in all the forums " which is ridiculous. Either you > > have vested interests in saying so, or you are completely ignorant > > of what is happening in these forums........What do you have to say > > about the many astrologers who are giving good quality advices in > > these forums like Prashatji, Guptaji, Rafalji, Mr. Raghavam, etc.? > > They are all doing so without expecting anything in return. > > Regarding depth of astrological knowledge......I am sure you must be > > really blind not to note that we have one of the best astrological > > brains in the form of Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHIJI. There should not be > > any comparison between different astrological experts, but when you > > put someone on a pedestal without regard to the other experts, you > > are making a great mistake here. Kindly do not do that. As far I > > know, Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji and Pandit Arjunji are the only > > persons who are traditional and vedic in the true sense of the word > > as they live by vedic traditions. Are they not " True " astrologers > > in your view? I think many members of these forums will also agree > > with me that Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji's views are considered to > > be " The Final " word regarding complicated concepts/ applications in > > astrology and dharma shastra, and his contributions to the forum by > > way of his illuminating posts are considered a blessing to the whole > > group. He is very strict about vedic protocols, but he has a gentle > > and firm way of expressing himself without rubbing others > > unnecessarily in the wrong way. His posts have dispelled the > > anxieties of many members which is the " true " purpose of astrology - > > to give hope to gloomy minds when Fate is testing them. How did you > > ignore all these stalwarts when you said BM is the only True > > astrologer in all these forums? > > > > You can support anybody of your choice; but you should not > > unwittingly insult other experts while supporting the person of your > > choice. Let us not have such controversies here. > > > > Best wishes. > > Mohanraaam. > > > > vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra " > > <sharma_balachandra@> wrote: > > > > > > Most of the people attacking this BM are > > > themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is > > > what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from > > > him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time, > > > then target him, the way You are doing at the moment. > > > One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is > > > the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is > > > always ready to help the younger astrologers,with > > > his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on > > > numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups. > > > > > > I have made enquiries, > > > before replying You,and found that he has been banned > > > only from this Group. Therefore check your facts > > > before misquoting. > > > Whether his hands remain dirty for > > > typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or > > > ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about > > > a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here, > > > remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes > > > of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness > > > in any one, because they have not been grromed this way. > > > > > > You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and > > > when one is not able to reply back. > > > > > > Sharma Bhau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > > > > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > > > > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > > > > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > > > > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > > > > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > > > > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > > > > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > > > > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > > > > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > > > > showed. > > > > > > > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > > > > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > > > > group. > > > > > > > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > > > > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > > > > > > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > > > > > Chart usage. > > > > > > > > > > One debate is going on in forum. > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > > > > > > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > > > > > > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > > > > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > > > > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > > > > > the Division charts. > > > > > > > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > > > > > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > > > > > > > > > >> How you use the divison charts. > > > > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > > > > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > > > > > Divison Charts. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > > > > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > > > > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > > > > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > _______________ > > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > > > vehicles. 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Mr. Balachandra sharma: If you are not an astrologer and then still gave a certificate to someone as " The Only True Astrologer " just because he gave you one free prediction, it is the heights of self-centredness. That too you have been here only for few weeks in a group that is 9 years old and has seen many highs and lows in its history! Please note that I never wrote anything ill about BM. I am neither this way nor that way in this matter. I also did not have the need to support him as I never got any free prediction as you got from him:))))) So, just one free prediction made you feel he is the truest astrolger here.....You know how many clarifications are given by some of the other astrologers here entirely free of cost? (I do not want to name anyone in particular; there are quite a few here, and I have already taken some names in my earlier posts; there are other persons also). Try to understand one basic thing in occult sciences; you will get the help that you deserve. BM guided you because it was destined. Otherwise, you would have been guided by somebody else also! It just happens. Many astrologers here pick up queries to answer randomly based on their intuition or instinct. By the way, if you received the mails " Requesting money " just as an answer to the public request, then they were not justified. But, if you had written to their personal email-ids, try to understand that they were well within their rights to claim their service charges. One simple advice to you (I am 86 years old and I feel I am qualified to advice a young man like you) ....never judge any person by just one or two instances. BM is quite a good astrologer; but try to get the point I have been trying to make from the beginning in reply to your posts..... " BM is good; But he is not the ONLY astrologer worth his salt " . Do not assert things like that especially as you are a very junior member here and you do not know the services rendered selflessly by many senior experts who have been a blessing to this group. Blessings, Mohanraaam.vedic- astrology , " sharma_balachandra " <sharma_balachandra wrote: > > Dear Mohanraam, > > I am not a astrologer please know this. > I came some time back asking for solution to > my problems, but none helped, only mails came > to me asking for money was the only reply I got. > > Your BM helped me that time, though he did not > help me later on when i asked him to work > on my newly opened Forum Indian astrology4U, > which I had opened so that people like me could > be provided by help from astrologers like him > and you. even though the second time my request > was not met by any help, yet to deny > the man,acknowledgement of his greatness and > kind nature, would be denying the Sun, space > to spread its Light. > > I have nothing against anyone for I a m a new > member over here,and joined just few weeks ago, so > there must be very wise people in this astrology > Forum, who all deserve respect.I was just speaking > of my experience with the bad ones. Since BM is > not a member here, to defend himself, and > since I have been helped by him, I would defend him, > till I am a Member over here. But you should take > care not to speak derogatory behind someones back. > Thank You. > > Sharma Bhau. > > > vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Balachandra Sharma: > > > > We have no objection to your supporting BM or anyone else for that > > matter. But you could have avoided using terms like " He is the only > > true astrologer in all the forums " which is ridiculous. Either you > > have vested interests in saying so, or you are completely ignorant > > of what is happening in these forums........What do you have to say > > about the many astrologers who are giving good quality advices in > > these forums like Prashatji, Guptaji, Rafalji, Mr. Raghavam, etc.? > > They are all doing so without expecting anything in return. > > Regarding depth of astrological knowledge......I am sure you must be > > really blind not to note that we have one of the best astrological > > brains in the form of Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHIJI. There should not be > > any comparison between different astrological experts, but when you > > put someone on a pedestal without regard to the other experts, you > > are making a great mistake here. Kindly do not do that. As far I > > know, Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji and Pandit Arjunji are the only > > persons who are traditional and vedic in the true sense of the word > > as they live by vedic traditions. Are they not " True " astrologers > > in your view? I think many members of these forums will also agree > > with me that Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji's views are considered to > > be " The Final " word regarding complicated concepts/ applications in > > astrology and dharma shastra, and his contributions to the forum by > > way of his illuminating posts are considered a blessing to the whole > > group. He is very strict about vedic protocols, but he has a gentle > > and firm way of expressing himself without rubbing others > > unnecessarily in the wrong way. His posts have dispelled the > > anxieties of many members which is the " true " purpose of astrology - > > to give hope to gloomy minds when Fate is testing them. How did you > > ignore all these stalwarts when you said BM is the only True > > astrologer in all these forums? > > > > You can support anybody of your choice; but you should not > > unwittingly insult other experts while supporting the person of your > > choice. Let us not have such controversies here. > > > > Best wishes. > > Mohanraaam. > > > > vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra " > > <sharma_balachandra@> wrote: > > > > > > Most of the people attacking this BM are > > > themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is > > > what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from > > > him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time, > > > then target him, the way You are doing at the moment. > > > One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is > > > the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is > > > always ready to help the younger astrologers,with > > > his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on > > > numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups. > > > > > > I have made enquiries, > > > before replying You,and found that he has been banned > > > only from this Group. Therefore check your facts > > > before misquoting. > > > Whether his hands remain dirty for > > > typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or > > > ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about > > > a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here, > > > remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes > > > of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness > > > in any one, because they have not been grromed this way. > > > > > > You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and > > > when one is not able to reply back. > > > > > > Sharma Bhau > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tarun, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is > > > > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive, > > > > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer > > > > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and > > > > what is big about the topic or the group with such a > > > > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values > > > > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty > > > > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar > > > > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but > > > > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have > > > > showed. > > > > > > > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking > > > > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this > > > > group. > > > > > > > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the > > > > debate or proving some one wrong or right. > > > > > > > > Hope you undersatnd my point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > > > > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison > > > > > Chart usage. > > > > > > > > > > One debate is going on in forum. > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks > > > > > > > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. > > > > > > > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior > > > > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri > > > > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using > > > > > the Division charts. > > > > > > > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your > > > > > way of usage of Divisional Charts, > > > > > > > > > > >> How you use the divison charts. > > > > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. > > > > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in > > > > > Divison Charts. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic > > > > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to > > > > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri > > > > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > _______________ > > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > > > vehicles. 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Guest guest Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dear Questionmaybe, Nadi astrology read from Palm-leaves etc., cannot predict the future...they are good at "predicting the past fairly correctly...",and, according to our revered Guruji the late KSK, they seldom predict the future correctly... nobody could fathom why...but the principles of K.P., are based on or are very close to the principles of Nadi Astrology...as I am given to understand... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. questionmaybe <questionmaybe Sent: Friday, 13 July, 2007 10:26:15 AM Re: Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join. dear tarun,sujata and mr. rao are right. kp is evolved because traditional astrology believes only in post mortem study and remedy....rather predictions are not the focus.i suggest you to focus only on kp and topics related with kp only.kp is the only right track available to start an astrological journey.any way.....anyone in the group interested in sharing nadi leaf readings is welcome to share views and observations. i have also encountered some significant observations regarding nadi leaf readings to which i,m really eager to share with anyone genuine.thnx and good luck. 5, 50, 500, 5000. Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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