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Hello Friends,

 

All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage.

 

One debate is going on in forum.

 

/

 

the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

 

The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

 

Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V.

Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong

in using the Division charts.

 

I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of

Divisional Charts,

 

>> How you use the divison charts.

>> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

>> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts.

 

If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share

your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is

wrong.

 

What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is

correct with his views.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

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Dear Tarun,

Traditional Astrology is now "old hat"...

Predictive Astrology has made vast strides forward,and has now evolved vastly more accurate methods of prognosis...

I guess Raman's and KN Rao's astrology is just some hocus-pocus,and cannot predict as accurately as K.P.

Pl. do not waste the time of us members of the K.P. Group...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo ; jyotish-vidya ; ; ; Kalidasa ; marital_astrology ; occultandhealing ; sohamsa ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2007 10:15:48 PM Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join.

 

 

Hello Friends,

 

All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage.

 

One debate is going on in forum.

 

http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/

 

the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

 

The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

 

Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts.

 

I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts,

 

>> How you use the divison charts.

>> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

>> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts.

 

If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

 

What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

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dEAR SIR

I have learnt the usage of division charts from my guru sri H.R.

seshadri iyer of Bangalore who was running " college of astrology "

in Bangalore.My guru taught me to apply all yogas such as gajakesari

yogas in division charts.It will surely materialize. But i think we

can not find small happenings in life from division chart.For that KP

is the best method.

B.Indira

, " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Hello Friends,

>

> All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage.

>

> One debate is going on in forum.

>

> /

>

> the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

>

> The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

>

> Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V.

Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong

in using the Division charts.

>

> I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of

Divisional Charts,

>

> >> How you use the divison charts.

> >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts.

>

> If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share

your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is

wrong.

>

> What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is

correct with his views.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

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Dear Lajmi ji,

 

i mistakenly posted this mail to KP forum actually. Yes I am learning KP , and i m in inital stage so trying to undrstand my chart too so i posted a query earlier day. :-)

 

Donot mind abt this Dvision chart's mail

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

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Yogesh Rao Lajmi

Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:32 PM

Re: Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join.

 

 

 

 

Dear Tarun,

Traditional Astrology is now "old hat"...

Predictive Astrology has made vast strides forward,and has now evolved vastly more accurate methods of prognosis...

I guess Raman's and KN Rao's astrology is just some hocus-pocus,and cannot predict as accurately as K.P.

Pl. do not waste the time of us members of the K.P. Group...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo > ; jyotish-vidya ; ; ; Kalidasa ; marital_astrology ; occultandhealing ; sohamsa ; varahamihira ; vedic astrology Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2007 10:15:48 PM Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join.

 

 

Hello Friends,

 

All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage.

 

One debate is going on in forum.

 

http://groups. / group/JyotishGro up/

 

the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

 

The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

 

Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts.

 

I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts,

 

>> How you use the divison charts.

>> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

>> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts.

 

If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

 

What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

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Dear Shri Tarun "K_p_System" is a KP system based astro-internet forum. As one is aware KP does not consider divisional charts, unlike in traditional method. Astrology is a complex and intricate subject, requiring deep and consistent research, dedication and hard work. We are in the midst of practising and learning KP. If at all I find time, I may try to join the divisonal chart section and try to learn its intricacies. But one is sure that Prophet Guruji Prof KSK had tested time and again the preachings and teachings of traditional astrology. Had there been accurate results in traditional method, probably the world would not have seen KP's system and its usage. With due respects to one and all Regards Viswanathh ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going on in forum. / the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of

usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with his views. Regards, Tarun

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dear tarun,

 

sujata and mr. rao are right. kp is evolved because

traditional astrology believes only in post mortem study and

remedy....rather predictions are not the focus.

 

i suggest you to focus only on kp and topics

related with kp only.

 

kp is the only right track available to start an

astrological journey.

 

 

any way.....anyone in the group interested in sharing

nadi leaf readings is welcome to share views and observations. i have

also encountered some significant observations regarding nadi leaf

readings to which i,m really eager to share with anyone genuine.

 

thnx and good luck.

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Dear Tarun Followers of KP do notttt use divisional charts at all. ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Hello Friends, All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage. One debate is going

on in forum. / the debate is going on from last 2 weeks The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts. Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division charts. I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional Charts, >> How you use the divison charts. >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart. >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts. If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views, so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong. What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is

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Dear Subhash,

 

Who are JG, BM, VA? Don't recognise any names from those initials.

 

Unless you mean JG as Jyotish Group, and VA as Vedic Astrology list?

 

In which case what is BM?

 

Thanks - Sateesh.

 

========

 

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Subhash Dulani

vedic astrology

Friday, July 13, 2007 9:14 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz

Join.

 

 

Hi Tarun,

 

STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

what is big about the topic or the group with such a

dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

showed.

 

Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

group.

 

This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

debate or proving some one wrong or right.

 

Hope you undersatnd my point.

 

--- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote:

 

> Hello Friends,

>

> All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> Chart usage.

>

> One debate is going on in forum.

>

> /

>

> the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

>

> The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

>

> Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> the Division charts.

>

> I please you all and join the debate writing your

> way of usage of Divisional Charts,

>

> >> How you use the divison charts.

> >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> Divison Charts.

>

> If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

>

> What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

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Namaste,

" Half knowledge is dangerous " , I joined this group to develop my knowledge and

to improve my predictive ability already present in me. I hope similar are with

the others. There may be hidden side of things, but for a person like me who is

under process of learning; any controversial / advanced theories may be

laborious to digest . I have not reached the level of selective discord. Please

avoid such posts reaching my mail box

 

 

~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Hello

Friends,

 

All are invited to join the debate going on Divison Chart usage.

 

One debate is going on in forum.

 

/

 

the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

 

The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

 

Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri

Santhanam , Shri Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using the Division

charts.

 

I please you all and join the debate writing your way of usage of Divisional

Charts,

 

>> How you use the divison charts.

>> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

>> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in Divison Charts.

 

If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic , please share your views,

so that it is clear to all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

 

What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri Pradeep ji is correct with

his views.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

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Dear Subhash,

 

Please do not mislead the forum for your prejudices.

 

Well - Shri tarun's mail was not offending; and Irrespective of Ban of Shri

Bhaskar - we need not redicule his opinion.

 

BTW - I had fight with him, but I respect his opinions. Why should you be

getting into the karmas - unless you have prejudices. Let me set the record

right - one incident does not become the conclusive judge on anyon'e abilities.

 

There are so many astrologers on ; and the discussion is very

garcefully done there. But in that discussion - SJC's interpretation model was

rediculed, as if Shri Sanjay or Shri PVR could not prove (facts are quite

contrary - as few years back - both explained with quite explicit clarity the

application of D charts).

 

I can tell you all these because - I was one of the participant on earlier

thread on SJC list; and now on .

 

As jyotish student - we are concerned with jyotish knowledge and no forum is

restricted for query handling. Generally, most forums are meant for jyotish

discussions - not answering queries of unknown natives.

 

I request you once again, to avoid misleading forum members for any group or

group of astrologers for your personal prejudices.

 

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>

> makaras

> Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:08:54 +0100

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts.

> Plz Join.

>

>

> Dear Subhash,

>

> Who are JG, BM, VA? Don't recognise any names from those initials.

>

> Unless you mean JG as Jyotish Group, and VA as Vedic Astrology list?

>

> In which case what is BM?

>

> Thanks - Sateesh.

>

> ========

>

> -

> Subhash Dulani

> vedic astrology

> Friday, July 13, 2007 9:14 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts.

> Plz Join.

>

>

> Hi Tarun,

>

> STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> showed.

>

> Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> group.

>

> This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> debate or proving some one wrong or right.

>

> Hope you undersatnd my point.

>

> --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

>> Hello Friends,

>>

>> All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

>> Chart usage.

>>

>> One debate is going on in forum.

>>

>> /

>>

>> the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

>>

>> The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

>>

>> Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

>> astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

>> Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

>> the Division charts.

>>

>> I please you all and join the debate writing your

>> way of usage of Divisional Charts,

>>

>>>> How you use the divison charts.

>>>> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

>>>> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

>> Divison Charts.

>>

>> If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

>> , please share your views, so that it is clear to

>> all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

>>

>> What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

>> Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Tarun

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>> removed]

>>

>>

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Dear Mr. Dulani,

 

This invitation is to VA because Pradeep is quoting Shri Sanjay Rath

wrong.

 

Is it bad to post in Sanjay ji's forum that he is quoting wrong and

his shishyas must tell the people what is right and what is wrong.

 

If you think that Sanjay Ji is wrong in his context, so you replied

to stop me inviting people to quote Parampara Teachings.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10

wrote:

>

> Hi Tarun,

>

>

>

> STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> showed.

>

> Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> group.

>

> This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> debate or proving some one wrong or right.

>

> Hope you undersatnd my point.

>

>

>

>

>

> --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> > Hello Friends,

> >

> > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> > Chart usage.

> >

> > One debate is going on in forum.

> >

> > /

> >

> > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

> >

> > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

> >

> > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> > the Division charts.

> >

> > I please you all and join the debate writing your

> > way of usage of Divisional Charts,

> >

> > >> How you use the divison charts.

> > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> > Divison Charts.

> >

> > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> > , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> > all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

> >

> > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> > Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Most of the people attacking this BM are

themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is

what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from

him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time,

then target him, the way You are doing at the moment.

One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is

the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is

always ready to help the younger astrologers,with

his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on

numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups.

 

I have made enquiries,

before replying You,and found that he has been banned

only from this Group. Therefore check your facts

before misquoting.

Whether his hands remain dirty for

typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or

ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about

a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here,

remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes

of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness

in any one, because they have not been grromed this way.

 

You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and

when one is not able to reply back.

 

Sharma Bhau

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10

wrote:

>

> Hi Tarun,

>

>

>

> STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> showed.

>

> Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> group.

>

> This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> debate or proving some one wrong or right.

>

> Hope you undersatnd my point.

>

>

>

>

>

> --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> > Hello Friends,

> >

> > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> > Chart usage.

> >

> > One debate is going on in forum.

> >

> > /

> >

> > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

> >

> > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

> >

> > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> > the Division charts.

> >

> > I please you all and join the debate writing your

> > way of usage of Divisional Charts,

> >

> > >> How you use the divison charts.

> > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> > Divison Charts.

> >

> > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> > , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> > all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

> >

> > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> > Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sharma ji,

 

Very well said, yes he is harsh many times but he is of the most

helpful astrologers and he is against the astrologers who are

misguiding people.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra "

<sharma_balachandra wrote:

>

> Most of the people attacking this BM are

> themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is

> what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from

> him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time,

> then target him, the way You are doing at the moment.

> One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is

> the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is

> always ready to help the younger astrologers,with

> his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on

> numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups.

>

> I have made enquiries,

> before replying You,and found that he has been banned

> only from this Group. Therefore check your facts

> before misquoting.

> Whether his hands remain dirty for

> typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or

> ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about

> a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here,

> remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes

> of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness

> in any one, because they have not been grromed this way.

>

> You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and

> when one is not able to reply back.

>

> Sharma Bhau

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Tarun,

> >

> >

> >

> > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> > what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> > showed.

> >

> > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> > group.

> >

> > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> > debate or proving some one wrong or right.

> >

> > Hope you undersatnd my point.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > > Hello Friends,

> > >

> > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> > > Chart usage.

> > >

> > > One debate is going on in forum.

> > >

> > > /

> > >

> > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

> > >

> > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

> > >

> > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> > > the Division charts.

> > >

> > > I please you all and join the debate writing your

> > > way of usage of Divisional Charts,

> > >

> > > >> How you use the divison charts.

> > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> > > Divison Charts.

> > >

> > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

> > >

> > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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______________

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> vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center.

> > http://autos./green_center/

> >

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Dear Mr. Balachandra Sharma:

 

We have no objection to your supporting BM or anyone else for that

matter. But you could have avoided using terms like " He is the only

true astrologer in all the forums " which is ridiculous. Either you

have vested interests in saying so, or you are completely ignorant

of what is happening in these forums........What do you have to say

about the many astrologers who are giving good quality advices in

these forums like Prashatji, Guptaji, Rafalji, Mr. Raghavam, etc.?

They are all doing so without expecting anything in return.

Regarding depth of astrological knowledge......I am sure you must be

really blind not to note that we have one of the best astrological

brains in the form of Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHIJI. There should not be

any comparison between different astrological experts, but when you

put someone on a pedestal without regard to the other experts, you

are making a great mistake here. Kindly do not do that. As far I

know, Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji and Pandit Arjunji are the only

persons who are traditional and vedic in the true sense of the word

as they live by vedic traditions. Are they not " True " astrologers

in your view? I think many members of these forums will also agree

with me that Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji's views are considered to

be " The Final " word regarding complicated concepts/ applications in

astrology and dharma shastra, and his contributions to the forum by

way of his illuminating posts are considered a blessing to the whole

group. He is very strict about vedic protocols, but he has a gentle

and firm way of expressing himself without rubbing others

unnecessarily in the wrong way. His posts have dispelled the

anxieties of many members which is the " true " purpose of astrology -

to give hope to gloomy minds when Fate is testing them. How did you

ignore all these stalwarts when you said BM is the only True

astrologer in all these forums?

 

You can support anybody of your choice; but you should not

unwittingly insult other experts while supporting the person of your

choice. Let us not have such controversies here.

 

Best wishes.

Mohanraaam.

 

vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra "

<sharma_balachandra wrote:

>

> Most of the people attacking this BM are

> themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is

> what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from

> him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time,

> then target him, the way You are doing at the moment.

> One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is

> the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is

> always ready to help the younger astrologers,with

> his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on

> numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups.

>

> I have made enquiries,

> before replying You,and found that he has been banned

> only from this Group. Therefore check your facts

> before misquoting.

> Whether his hands remain dirty for

> typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or

> ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about

> a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here,

> remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes

> of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness

> in any one, because they have not been grromed this way.

>

> You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and

> when one is not able to reply back.

>

> Sharma Bhau

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani <dulani10@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Tarun,

> >

> >

> >

> > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> > what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> > showed.

> >

> > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> > group.

> >

> > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> > debate or proving some one wrong or right.

> >

> > Hope you undersatnd my point.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > > Hello Friends,

> > >

> > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> > > Chart usage.

> > >

> > > One debate is going on in forum.

> > >

> > > /

> > >

> > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

> > >

> > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

> > >

> > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> > > the Division charts.

> > >

> > > I please you all and join the debate writing your

> > > way of usage of Divisional Charts,

> > >

> > > >> How you use the divison charts.

> > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> > > Divison Charts.

> > >

> > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

> > >

> > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center.

> > http://autos./green_center/

> >

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Dear Mr. Sharma:

 

I have not written for the reason you have alluded (to quote

you: " Because your name was not taken as a great astrologer " ). No

Sir...You are mistaken.

 

I do not maintain a servile attitude towards anybody as you had

written in your mail, and am not developing " camps " . I wrote of

Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji only because I know his greatness from

first hand experience. This is admiration and not servitude. Even

you seem to accept he is a class apart (Or am I mistaken here? Your

mail was not clear on this count....). So, assuming that you

consider Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji, PVR, BV Raman, KN Rao, etc. as

class apart, where do we differ in that at all? You must note that

among these stalwarts only ONE in this list is still contributing

here actively....and that is Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji...That is why

I took his name. He is one of the least controversial figures in

this group who is universally respected. (He is a leading

contributor in various other groups and forums; that is another

matter!)

 

Only your word " HE IS THE ONLY TRUE ASTROLOGER IN THESE FORUMS "

about BM prompted my mail; let other members decide if this is not

an insult to the stalwarts who squeeze out time between their tight

schedules just to enlighten all of us?

 

I am also pained by mushrooming of ill-trained and incompetent

astrologers just like your good self.

 

You have asked where I was when people attacked BM? To be honest, BM

himself can be aggressive in his defence, and he needs no one to

speak for him. In fact, his style is sometimes unnecessarily

frictional and challenging. So, I felt no need to speak up for him.

 

For that matter, did you write in support of Dakshinamoorthiji when

he was maligned some time in the past? It was only Pandit Arjunji,

myself, and other members who wrote in his support. The point I am

raising is.....everybody has his/ her own favourites. But, we never

said " HE IS THE ONLY TRUE ASTROLOGER " about Dakshinamoorthiji. Did

we?

 

It was the tone of your mail rather than the content that prompted

me to write the mail. Anyway, this is an unnecessary controversy

here. You people need not have " Canvassed " for other group

discussions in this group - especially when that person has been

banned from this group for his unsatisfactory conduct or

unnecessarily harsh and challenging posts. He must have been banned

for a good reason, and canvassing for such a person will naturally

invite brick bats from other members who would have been offended by

him in the past.

 

Best wishes.

Mohanraaam.

 

vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra "

<sharma_balachandra wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Mohanraam,

>

> Where was your voice when BM was targetted by your

> friend ? When he called him dirty, zealous, and

> other terms, why were you quiet ? This type

> of indiscriminate and dispersed sense of justice

> does not behove of you, neither grants any advisory

> role to You.

>

> It is strange that you raise voice when your name was

> not taken as a great astrologer, while others was.

> The names You have taken,Rafal,Dakshinamoorthy and

> Arjun Pt. are a class apart. We are not talking of

> Rath,PVR,BV raman,KN rao or others of their class.

> Lets not vile or defile them.

> When I addressed the matter,it was targetted at the

> wanton growth and breeding of untruthful astrologers

> who are not a blessing, but a curse to the society.

>

> I would request you to practise first before You preach,

> and not use the preaching machinery only, where your

> own vested interest suffers.

> Talk when any astologer is spoken bad of, not just to those

> with whom you keep servile attitude. Do not nurture campism

> on these Lists.

>

> Sharma Bhau.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Balachandra Sharma:

> >

> > We have no objection to your supporting BM or anyone else for

that

> > matter. But you could have avoided using terms like " He is the

only

> > true astrologer in all the forums " which is ridiculous. Either

you

> > have vested interests in saying so, or you are completely

ignorant

> > of what is happening in these forums........What do you have to

say

> > about the many astrologers who are giving good quality advices

in

> > these forums like Prashatji, Guptaji, Rafalji, Mr. Raghavam,

etc.?

> > They are all doing so without expecting anything in return.

> > Regarding depth of astrological knowledge......I am sure you

must be

> > really blind not to note that we have one of the best

astrological

> > brains in the form of Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHIJI. There should

not be

> > any comparison between different astrological experts, but when

you

> > put someone on a pedestal without regard to the other experts,

you

> > are making a great mistake here. Kindly do not do that. As far

I

> > know, Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji and Pandit Arjunji are the only

> > persons who are traditional and vedic in the true sense of the

word

> > as they live by vedic traditions. Are they not " True "

astrologers

> > in your view? I think many members of these forums will also

agree

> > with me that Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji's views are considered to

> > be " The Final " word regarding complicated concepts/ applications

in

> > astrology and dharma shastra, and his contributions to the forum

by

> > way of his illuminating posts are considered a blessing to the

whole

> > group. He is very strict about vedic protocols, but he has a

gentle

> > and firm way of expressing himself without rubbing others

> > unnecessarily in the wrong way. His posts have dispelled the

> > anxieties of many members which is the " true " purpose of

astrology -

> > to give hope to gloomy minds when Fate is testing them. How did

you

> > ignore all these stalwarts when you said BM is the only True

> > astrologer in all these forums?

> >

> > You can support anybody of your choice; but you should not

> > unwittingly insult other experts while supporting the person of

your

> > choice. Let us not have such controversies here.

> >

> > Best wishes.

> > Mohanraaam.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra "

> > <sharma_balachandra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Most of the people attacking this BM are

> > > themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is

> > > what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from

> > > him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time,

> > > then target him, the way You are doing at the moment.

> > > One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is

> > > the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is

> > > always ready to help the younger astrologers,with

> > > his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on

> > > numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups.

> > >

> > > I have made enquiries,

> > > before replying You,and found that he has been banned

> > > only from this Group. Therefore check your facts

> > > before misquoting.

> > > Whether his hands remain dirty for

> > > typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or

> > > ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about

> > > a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here,

> > > remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes

> > > of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness

> > > in any one, because they have not been grromed this way.

> > >

> > > You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and

> > > when one is not able to reply back.

> > >

> > > Sharma Bhau

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani

<dulani10@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Tarun,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> > > > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> > > > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> > > > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> > > > what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> > > > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> > > > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> > > > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> > > > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> > > > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> > > > showed.

> > > >

> > > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> > > > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> > > > group.

> > > >

> > > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> > > > debate or proving some one wrong or right.

> > > >

> > > > Hope you undersatnd my point.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> > > > > Chart usage.

> > > > >

> > > > > One debate is going on in forum.

> > > > >

> > > > > /

> > > > >

> > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

> > > > >

> > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> > > > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> > > > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> > > > > the Division charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your

> > > > > way of usage of Divisional Charts,

> > > > >

> > > > > >> How you use the divison charts.

> > > > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> > > > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> > > > > Divison Charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> > > > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> > > > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> > > > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

___________________

> > _______________

> > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative

> > > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center.

> > > > http://autos./green_center/

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Mr. Balachandra sharma:

 

If you are not an astrologer and then still gave a certificate to

someone as " The Only True Astrologer " just because he gave you one

free prediction, it is the heights of self-centredness. That too

you have been here only for few weeks in a group that is 9 years old

and has seen many highs and lows in its history!

 

Please note that I never wrote anything ill about BM. I am neither

this way nor that way in this matter. I also did not have the need

to support him as I never got any free prediction as you got from

him:)))))

 

So, just one free prediction made you feel he is the truest

astrolger here.....You know how many clarifications are given by

some of the other astrologers here entirely free of cost? (I do not

want to name anyone in particular; there are quite a few here, and I

have already taken some names in my earlier posts; there are other

persons also).

 

Try to understand one basic thing in occult sciences; you will get

the help that you deserve. BM guided you because it was destined.

Otherwise, you would have been guided by somebody else also! It

just happens. Many astrologers here pick up queries to answer

randomly based on their intuition or instinct.

 

By the way, if you received the mails " Requesting money " just as an

answer to the public request, then they were not justified. But, if

you had written to their personal email-ids, try to understand that

they were well within their rights to claim their service charges.

 

One simple advice to you (I am 86 years old and I feel I am

qualified to advice a young man like you) ....never judge any person

by just one or two instances. BM is quite a good astrologer; but

try to get the point I have been trying to make from the beginning

in reply to your posts..... " BM is good; But he is not the ONLY

astrologer worth his salt " . Do not assert things like that

especially as you are a very junior member here and you do not know

the services rendered selflessly by many senior experts who have

been a blessing to this group.

 

Blessings,

Mohanraaam.vedic-

astrology , " sharma_balachandra "

<sharma_balachandra wrote:

>

> Dear Mohanraam,

>

> I am not a astrologer please know this.

> I came some time back asking for solution to

> my problems, but none helped, only mails came

> to me asking for money was the only reply I got.

>

> Your BM helped me that time, though he did not

> help me later on when i asked him to work

> on my newly opened Forum Indian astrology4U,

> which I had opened so that people like me could

> be provided by help from astrologers like him

> and you. even though the second time my request

> was not met by any help, yet to deny

> the man,acknowledgement of his greatness and

> kind nature, would be denying the Sun, space

> to spread its Light.

>

> I have nothing against anyone for I a m a new

> member over here,and joined just few weeks ago, so

> there must be very wise people in this astrology

> Forum, who all deserve respect.I was just speaking

> of my experience with the bad ones. Since BM is

> not a member here, to defend himself, and

> since I have been helped by him, I would defend him,

> till I am a Member over here. But you should take

> care not to speak derogatory behind someones back.

> Thank You.

>

> Sharma Bhau.

>

>

> vedic astrology , " mohanraaam " <mohanraaam@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Balachandra Sharma:

> >

> > We have no objection to your supporting BM or anyone else for

that

> > matter. But you could have avoided using terms like " He is the

only

> > true astrologer in all the forums " which is ridiculous. Either

you

> > have vested interests in saying so, or you are completely

ignorant

> > of what is happening in these forums........What do you have to

say

> > about the many astrologers who are giving good quality advices

in

> > these forums like Prashatji, Guptaji, Rafalji, Mr. Raghavam,

etc.?

> > They are all doing so without expecting anything in return.

> > Regarding depth of astrological knowledge......I am sure you

must be

> > really blind not to note that we have one of the best

astrological

> > brains in the form of Pandit DAKSHINAMOORTHIJI. There should

not be

> > any comparison between different astrological experts, but when

you

> > put someone on a pedestal without regard to the other experts,

you

> > are making a great mistake here. Kindly do not do that. As far

I

> > know, Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji and Pandit Arjunji are the only

> > persons who are traditional and vedic in the true sense of the

word

> > as they live by vedic traditions. Are they not " True "

astrologers

> > in your view? I think many members of these forums will also

agree

> > with me that Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji's views are considered to

> > be " The Final " word regarding complicated concepts/ applications

in

> > astrology and dharma shastra, and his contributions to the forum

by

> > way of his illuminating posts are considered a blessing to the

whole

> > group. He is very strict about vedic protocols, but he has a

gentle

> > and firm way of expressing himself without rubbing others

> > unnecessarily in the wrong way. His posts have dispelled the

> > anxieties of many members which is the " true " purpose of

astrology -

> > to give hope to gloomy minds when Fate is testing them. How did

you

> > ignore all these stalwarts when you said BM is the only True

> > astrologer in all these forums?

> >

> > You can support anybody of your choice; but you should not

> > unwittingly insult other experts while supporting the person of

your

> > choice. Let us not have such controversies here.

> >

> > Best wishes.

> > Mohanraaam.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " sharma_balachandra "

> > <sharma_balachandra@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Most of the people attacking this BM are

> > > themselves jealous of his astrological abilities, is

> > > what I feel. And many who seek free counelling from

> > > him, but do not get the same due to his lack of time,

> > > then target him, the way You are doing at the moment.

> > > One should not use words like " zealousy " , when he is

> > > the only true astrologer on all your Forums, who is

> > > always ready to help the younger astrologers,with

> > > his secrets of predictions , as I have seen, on

> > > numerous occasions in JR. and oher Groups.

> > >

> > > I have made enquiries,

> > > before replying You,and found that he has been banned

> > > only from this Group. Therefore check your facts

> > > before misquoting.

> > > Whether his hands remain dirty for

> > > typing in replies to thousands of help mails, or

> > > ones mouth remains dirty for talkimg derogatory about

> > > a respected Man and the wisest astrologer here,

> > > remains a matter of discovery, yet for the likes

> > > of the critics , who cannot ever see the brightness

> > > in any one, because they have not been grromed this way.

> > >

> > > You should not comment on anyone behind his back, and

> > > when one is not able to reply back.

> > >

> > > Sharma Bhau

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , Subhash Dulani

<dulani10@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Tarun,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > STOP inviting people to JG, his master BM who is

> > > > banned by a few sites including VA for his offensive,

> > > > acidic attacks on fellow astrologers out of sheer

> > > > jealousy is poaching through tarun in other groups and

> > > > what is big about the topic or the group with such a

> > > > dubious crowd in it. esp the owner who has no values

> > > > or keeps his words keeps repeating the same dirty

> > > > tricks all over every time and best way to be pouplar

> > > > is mud sling other pouplar ones a shameful habit.but

> > > > invaribly his hands remain dirty as the bans have

> > > > showed.

> > > >

> > > > Please stop advertising for other groups and taking

> > > > the names of fellow/respected astrolgers in this

> > > > group.

> > > >

> > > > This group is mainly for advise seekers not for the

> > > > debate or proving some one wrong or right.

> > > >

> > > > Hope you undersatnd my point.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hello Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > All are invited to join the debate going on Divison

> > > > > Chart usage.

> > > > >

> > > > > One debate is going on in forum.

> > > > >

> > > > > /

> > > > >

> > > > > the debate is going on from last 2 weeks

> > > > >

> > > > > The topic is usage of Divisonal Charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shri Pradeep is quoting that the Very senior

> > > > > astrologers Shri B. V. Raman, Shri Santhanam , Shri

> > > > > Sanjay Rath, Shri K N Rao, all are wrong in using

> > > > > the Division charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > I please you all and join the debate writing your

> > > > > way of usage of Divisional Charts,

> > > > >

> > > > > >> How you use the divison charts.

> > > > > >> How you connect Division Charts to Natal Chart.

> > > > > >> Do you use aspects and conjuctions & Exchange in

> > > > > Divison Charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have any kind of knowledge in the above topic

> > > > > , please share your views, so that it is clear to

> > > > > all tht wht is right and what is wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > What we read from Parampara is wrong ????? or shri

> > > > > Pradeep ji is correct with his views.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Questionmaybe,

Nadi astrology read from Palm-leaves etc., cannot predict the future...they are good at "predicting the past fairly correctly...",and, according to our revered Guruji the late KSK, they seldom predict the future correctly...

nobody could fathom why...but the principles of K.P., are based on or are very close to the principles of Nadi Astrology...as I am given to understand...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

 

questionmaybe <questionmaybe Sent: Friday, 13 July, 2007 10:26:15 AM Re: Biggest Debate on Usage of Divison Charts. Plz Join.

 

dear tarun,sujata and mr. rao are right. kp is evolved because traditional astrology believes only in post mortem study and remedy....rather predictions are not the focus.i suggest you to focus only on kp and topics related with kp only.kp is the only right track available to start an astrological journey.any way.....anyone in the group interested in sharing nadi leaf readings is welcome to share views and observations. i have also encountered some significant observations regarding nadi leaf readings to which i,m really eager to share with anyone genuine.thnx and good luck.

 

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