Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Jyotishas, I will add my 2 cents to topic: Just You can open Dwadasamsa and see how the lords of children-bhavas (fifth bhava - first child, seventh - second child) are placed regarding Lagnesh. Trikona will show sharing same ideals, Kendra will show support, dusthanas will show differences and bad relation or neutral at least. If lord of bhava denoting child is in 7 from Lagnesh then there will be opposition or rise through children depending on Yoga and planet. If lord of bhava is benefic and is in third from Lagnesh then child can defeat father, if its in 12 from lagnesh then child will live away from home. In this manner You can judge pecualirities of relation parent-child. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Pram Chopra napisa?(a): > > Dear Honorable Members > > God Bless All > > Very important query: > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should be > whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so which > of my children will support me. It is both from the natal horoscope > and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient finance > in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have the > deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the Mahadasha > and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the lord of > the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the Mahadasha > Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at the > time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with such > ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the > Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where the > Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, > provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the > Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there will > be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a > planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his residence > depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance > during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the Son > will show negligence > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to > further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help > whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. Both > the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that son or > daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual ie > son or daughter. > > Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > ________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ <http://searchmarketing./> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Srinivasa, Sorry, for children we see Saptamsa of course, thank You for being alert. We do the same with D12 for parents but then we have also Amsa-Devatas. Sarpa will give hate for both, Ganesha will give attachement for mother, Yama for father, Aswini K for both. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl padmanu napisa?(a): > > Om Gurave Namah > > Namasthe Rafal ji, > > Do you see this in the Parent's chart or the child's? > > Pranam > > Srinivasa > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > I will add my 2 cents to topic: > > > > Just You can open Dwadasamsa and see how the lords of children- > bhavas > > (fifth bhava - first child, seventh - second child) are placed > regarding > > Lagnesh. Trikona will show sharing same ideals, Kendra will show > > support, dusthanas will show differences and bad relation or > neutral at > > least. If lord of bhava denoting child is in 7 from Lagnesh then > there > > will be opposition or rise through children depending on Yoga and > > planet. If lord of bhava is benefic and is in third from Lagnesh > then > > child can defeat father, if its in 12 from lagnesh then child will > live > > away from home. In this manner You can judge pecualirities of > relation > > parent-child. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > > > > > Pram Chopra napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Honorable Members > > > > > > God Bless All > > > > > > Very important query: > > > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > > > > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should > be > > > whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so > which > > > of my children will support me. It is both from the natal > horoscope > > > and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient > finance > > > in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have > the > > > deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > > > > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the > Mahadasha > > > and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the > lord of > > > the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the > Mahadasha > > > Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at > the > > > time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with > such > > > ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the > > > Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where > the > > > Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, > > > provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the > > > Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there > will > > > be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a > > > planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his > residence > > > depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance > > > during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the > Son > > > will show negligence > > > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to > > > further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help > > > whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. > Both > > > the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that > son or > > > daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual > ie > > > son or daughter. > > > > > > Foresight Prince of India > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > http://searchmarket ing.. com/ > <http://searchmarketing./> > <http://searchmarket ing.. com/ <http://searchmarketing./>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Jyotishas, I will add my 2 cents to topic: Just You can open Dwadasamsa and see how the lords of children-bhavas (fifth bhava - first child, seventh - second child) are placed regarding Lagnesh. Trikona will show sharing same ideals, Kendra will show support, dusthanas will show differences and bad relation or neutral at least. If lord of bhava denoting child is in 7 from Lagnesh then there will be opposition or rise through children depending on Yoga and planet. If lord of bhava is benefic and is in third from Lagnesh then child can defeat father, if its in 12 from lagnesh then child will live away from home. In this manner You can judge pecualirities of relation parent-child. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Pram Chopra napisa?(a): > > Dear Honorable Members > > God Bless All > > Very important query: > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should be > whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so which > of my children will support me. It is both from the natal horoscope > and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient finance > in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have the > deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the Mahadasha > and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the lord of > the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the Mahadasha > Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at the > time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with such > ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the > Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where the > Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, > provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the > Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there will > be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a > planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his residence > depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance > during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the Son > will show negligence > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to > further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help > whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. Both > the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that son or > daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual ie > son or daughter. > > Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > ________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ <http://searchmarketing./> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Shishu Gopal! vedic astrology , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Honorable Members > > God Bless All > > Very important query: > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should be whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so which of my children will support me. It is both from the natal horoscope and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient finance in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have the deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the Mahadasha and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the lord of the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the Mahadasha Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at the time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with such ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where the Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there will be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his residence depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the Son will show negligence > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. Both the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that son or daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual ie son or daughter. > > Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Dwad as western astrologers call it, and not saptamamsha, Rafal ji? Pramji asked about children... , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Jyotishas, > > I will add my 2 cents to topic: > > Just You can open Dwadasamsa and see how the lords of children- bhavas > (fifth bhava - first child, seventh - second child) are placed regarding > Lagnesh. Trikona will show sharing same ideals, Kendra will show > support, dusthanas will show differences and bad relation or neutral at > least. If lord of bhava denoting child is in 7 from Lagnesh then there > will be opposition or rise through children depending on Yoga and > planet. If lord of bhava is benefic and is in third from Lagnesh then > child can defeat father, if its in 12 from lagnesh then child will live > away from home. In this manner You can judge pecualirities of relation > parent-child. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl > > > Pram Chopra napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Honorable Members > > > > God Bless All > > > > Very important query: > > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should be > > whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so which > > of my children will support me. It is both from the natal horoscope > > and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient finance > > in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have the > > deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the Mahadasha > > and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the lord of > > the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the Mahadasha > > Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at the > > time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with such > > ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the > > Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where the > > Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, > > provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the > > Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there will > > be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a > > planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his residence > > depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance > > during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the Son > > will show negligence > > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to > > further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help > > whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. Both > > the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that son or > > daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual ie > > son or daughter. > > > > Foresight Prince of India > > Pram Chopra > > > > ________ > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > http://searchmarketing./ <http://searchmarketing./> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hare rama krishna, dear jyothish volunteers, Rafalji is not a western astrologer and he is very much a jyothisha guru of Vedic Astrology .Who is as best as any indian living guru. Ya dwadasamsa is dealing with parents ,may be his guru parampara has some secrets .If he wishes to reveal it ,he may tell us .But this is not a way to ask questions.Do you ever think if dasamsas deals with professions then why division of 12 for parents and 7 for childrens ,and 9 for marriage . Think and u can ask your guru also till then regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair , " Jyotish Volunteers " <jyotish wrote: > > Dwad as western astrologers call it, and not saptamamsha, Rafal ji? > > Pramji asked about children... > > > > > , Rafal Gendarz > starsuponme@ wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > I will add my 2 cents to topic: > > > > Just You can open Dwadasamsa and see how the lords of children- > bhavas > > (fifth bhava - first child, seventh - second child) are placed > regarding > > Lagnesh. Trikona will show sharing same ideals, Kendra will show > > support, dusthanas will show differences and bad relation or > neutral at > > least. If lord of bhava denoting child is in 7 from Lagnesh then > there > > will be opposition or rise through children depending on Yoga and > > planet. If lord of bhava is benefic and is in third from Lagnesh > then > > child can defeat father, if its in 12 from lagnesh then child will > live > > away from home. In this manner You can judge pecualirities of > relation > > parent-child. > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal@ > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl > > > > > > Pram Chopra napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Honorable Members > > > > > > God Bless All > > > > > > Very important query: > > > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > > > > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should > be > > > whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so > which > > > of my children will support me. It is both from the natal > horoscope > > > and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient > finance > > > in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have > the > > > deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > > > > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the > Mahadasha > > > and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the > lord of > > > the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the > Mahadasha > > > Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at > the > > > time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with > such > > > ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the > > > Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where > the > > > Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, > > > provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the > > > Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there > will > > > be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a > > > planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his > residence > > > depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance > > > during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the > Son > > > will show negligence > > > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to > > > further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help > > > whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. > Both > > > the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that > son or > > > daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual > ie > > > son or daughter. > > > > > > Foresight Prince of India > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > ________ > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > http://searchmarketing./ > <http://searchmarketing./> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Jyotishas, Dwadasamsa is for parents, and saptamsha is for children. This is not western astrology but core of Parasara-Maharishi-Jyotish. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl sunil nair napisa?(a): > > > Hare rama krishna, > > dear jyothish volunteers, > > Rafalji is not a western astrologer and he is very much a jyothisha > guru of Vedic Astrology .Who is as best as any indian living guru. > > Ya dwadasamsa is dealing with parents ,may be his guru parampara has > some secrets .If he wishes to reveal it ,he may tell us .But this is not > a way to ask questions.Do you ever think if dasamsas deals with > professions then why division of 12 for parents and 7 for childrens ,and > 9 for marriage . > > Think and u can ask your guru also > > till then > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/> > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/ > <http://www.indiamart.com/Vedic Astrology/>> > > pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair%40gmail.com> > <pt.sunilnair <pt.sunilnair%40gmail.com>> > > > <%40>, " Jyotish Volunteers " > <jyotish wrote: > > > > Dwad as western astrologers call it, and not saptamamsha, Rafal ji? > > > > Pramji asked about children... > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > starsuponme@ wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > I will add my 2 cents to topic: > > > > > > Just You can open Dwadasamsa and see how the lords of children- > > bhavas > > > (fifth bhava - first child, seventh - second child) are placed > > regarding > > > Lagnesh. Trikona will show sharing same ideals, Kendra will show > > > support, dusthanas will show differences and bad relation or > > neutral at > > > least. If lord of bhava denoting child is in 7 from Lagnesh then > > there > > > will be opposition or rise through children depending on Yoga and > > > planet. If lord of bhava is benefic and is in third from Lagnesh > > then > > > child can defeat father, if its in 12 from lagnesh then child will > > live > > > away from home. In this manner You can judge pecualirities of > > relation > > > parent-child. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > Rohinaa Gurukula: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl > <http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > > > > > > > > Pram Chopra napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Honorable Members > > > > > > > > God Bless All > > > > > > > > Very important query: > > > > Which child will help me in my last days? With whom will I life? > > > > > > > > One may have many children and none may help. So the query should > > be > > > > whether I will be dependent on my children in my old age; if so > > which > > > > of my children will support me. It is both from the natal > > horoscope > > > > and Horary one can find out whether one will have sufficient > > finance > > > > in his old days to meet his expenses or on will borrow or have > > the > > > > deficient amount supplemented by the children of friends. > > > > > > > > To know which child will support, one has to note down the > > Mahadasha > > > > and Antardasha running. These planets offer the results of the > > lord of > > > > the Star in which they are deposited; hence note down the > > Mahadasha > > > > Lord, Antardasha Lord, the lords of the Star where they were at > > the > > > > time of birth in the Birth Chart. That child who was born with > > such > > > > ruling planets are the time of his birth who happen to be the > > > > Mahadasha Lord or Antardasha Lord or the lords of the star where > > the > > > > Mahadasha lord and Antardasha Lord were situated, will support, > > > > provided they are advantageous to you, promising help; but if the > > > > Mahadasha Lord and Antardasha Lord indicate separation then there > > will > > > > be separation from that child then. In the same dasha ruled by a > > > > planet, one child may invite the father to the place of his > > residence > > > > depending on his job. He can keep him and be of great assistance > > > > during a particular Antardasha. When the Antardasha changes the > > Son > > > > will show negligence > > > > silence and reluctance, and the father will feel embarrassed to > > > > further stay. It means the previous Antardasha Lord promises help > > > > whereas the next Antardasha Lord indicates withdrawal of support. > > Both > > > > the Lords of the Antardasha will be the ruling planets of that > > son or > > > > daughter, indicating what one experiences through that individual > > ie > > > > son or daughter. > > > > > > > > Foresight Prince of India > > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > http://searchmarketing./ > <http://searchmarketing./> > > <http://searchmarketing./ <http://searchmarketing./>> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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