Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Dear Rafalji, Why is exaltation such a big driver for the soul reincarnating so many times in this worldly reality? Some, if not all jyotishis, seem to be pushing that kind of empowerment and strengthening for decades on the jyotish realm seemingly through many different means, spiritual and not so spiritual. It almost brings to mind the much maligned trend in performance sport in the REAL world about use or abuse of performance enhancing steroids and other drugs that are touted through email spam that everyone on internet gets in wagon loads for improving this or that performance, if you catch my drift! They all end up causing more agony, misery and fatal diseases. Are the spiritual steroid analogues somehow different? It almost sounds like the illusory and Elusive Gold Medal that all the worldly and spiritual jyotishis seem to be recommending! Are Great Spiritual beings never born with debilitated planets or somewhere between exaltation and debility? Just as mahatmas do not need to wait for purnima to show us their mortal face! RR , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > Dear Vrinda, Namaskar > > It gives huge determination of native to break out through neecha and > gets exalted. Blessings of mother and community will be important. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru; > email: rafal > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com > > > > Dear Narasimhanji, > > What happens when Kuja is neecha , retrograde and gets > > neechabhanga by Chandra in Kataka? > > Thanks, > > Vrinda Krishna > > > > > > <%40>, " rshekhar_74 " > > <rshekhar_74@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Narsimhanji, > > > What is ur experience about the remedy for debilitated planets? If > > > its lord of auspicious house then should it be made stronger by > > > wearing its gem or should it be propitiated by donating the things > > > related to it? > > > Ravi shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, Balaji Narasimhan > > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tanvir ji, Rohini ji and others, > > > > > > > > I have compiled a small Q & A on Neecha Grahas in a FAQ form. > > > > Please let me have your views. > > > > > > > > A compilation of basic thoughts on Neecha Grahas > > > > > > > > 1. Is there any way a Neecha Graha will cause absolutely no > > > > problems? > > > > > > > > No way. There will be some problem even if the Graha gets Neecha > > > > Banga, or even Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > 2. What happens when a Graha is Neecha? > > > > > > > > It is essentially weak and will cause difficulties relating to > > > > the house it owns and aspects. Its dasa/bukti will also be > > > > painful. > > > > > > > > 3. What is Neecha Banga and how is it caused? > > > > > > > > Neecha Banga causes some alleviation, and is caused if the Graha > > > > is Uccha in Navamsa, with an Uccha Graha, etc. > > > > > > > > 4. Will Neecha Banga nullify the negative nature of a Neecha > > > > Graha? > > > > > > > > It will reduce the effects. Total nullification is not possible. > > > > > > > > 5. What happens when a Neecha Graha gets relief by itself? > > > > > > > > It will then reduce the difficulties concerning the houses it > > > > owns, aspects, and its Dasa/Bukti will not be that painful. > > > > > > > > 6. What happens when another Graha helps a Neecha Graha to get > > > > Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > The Neecha Graha will produce difficulties, but the Graha that > > > > gives Neecha Banga will produce a good Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > 7. What is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga? > > > > > > > > It is said that a Neecha Graha that is in a Kendra from Lagna or > > > > Chandra gives Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > 8. Is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga greater than Exaltation? > > > > > > > > Doubtful. While more blemishes are possibly removed by Neecha > > > > Banga Raja Yoga than merely by Neecha Banga alone, there will > > > > still be some difficulty. > > > > > > > > 9. If a Graha gets NBRY, can this be used for pronouncing Pancha > > > > Mahapurusha Yoga? > > > > > > > > No way. You consider yourself lucky that you have NBRY. > > > > > > > > 10. Is there any other way a Neecha Graha can get some relief? > > > > > > > > If a Neecha Graha is aspected by a benefic or a Trikonadipati, > > > > then there is a possibility of some relief because the > > > > Dasa/Bukti will be coloured by the benefic or the Trikonadipati. > > > > This is usually better than nothing at all! > > > > > > > > 11. Is there any possibility that Neecha is better than Uccha? > > > > > > > > Let's consider a scenario where Kuja and Guru are in Kataka. The > > > > former is Neecha, but the latter provides it Neecha Banga. So, > > > > the native gets 7 years of bad Kuja Dasa, but 16 years of very > > > > good Guru Dasa. Guru's Dasa will be anyway good because it is > > > > Uccha, but by providing Neecha Banga to Kuja, it could improve > > > > even more. > > > > > > > > 12. Isn't it better if, in the above example, both Grahas were > > > > Uccha? > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that the aspects between Uccha Grahas can > > > > lead to bankruptcy. Keeping this in mind, the above Neecha Banga > > > > is better than having Uccha Guru and Uccha Kuja Sama Saptaka. > > > > > > > > 13. Is there any other case where a Neecha Graha is beneficial? > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that Jaya Yoga is caused when the lord of the > > > > 6th is Neecha, and the lord of the 10th is deeply exalted. > > > > > > > > 14. Is there any way in which one can escape the Neecha effects? > > > > > > > > If Chandra is in the edge of the 4th Pada of a star owned by the > > > > Neecha Graha, it could be beneficial. This is because one starts > > > > at the very end of the dasa of the Neecha Graha - and one will > > > > be dead by the time this Dasa comes up again after around > > > > 100-120 years! However, the Buktis will still be painful, though > > > > fortunately they will operate for only a smaller period. > > > > > > > > 15. I have a Neecha Graha in my chart. Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. Remember, all factors should be kept in mind, > > > > and if the rest of the chart is strong, one could lead a fairly > > > > good and successful life. Saravalli says that Surya, at the > > > > point of his deepest fall in Tula (10 degrees), can destroy a > > > > hundred Raja Yogas, but it is doubtful if this will actually > > > > materialize in practice. > > > > > > > > 16. Which are the Neecha houses for Rahu and Ketu? > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are not exalted anywhere. So, they can't be > > > > debilitated anywhere either. > > > > > > > > 17. Does this mean that Rahu and Ketu never experience the state > > > > of being Neecha? > > > > > > > > If the lord of the house in which Rahu or Ketu are posited is > > > > Neecha, they will experience it to an extent. If the Neecha > > > > Graha aspects Rahu or Ketu, again, Rahu and Ketu will behave > > > > like these Grahas during their own Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > 18. Will Vipareeta Raja Yoga work if a Neecha Dushtana is in > > > > another Dushtana house? > > > > > > > > It will technically be there, but only in theory. VRY requires > > > > some strength, and a Neecha graha usually doesn't possess > > > > strength, unless it gets Neecha Banga or NBRY. > > > > > > > > 19. What is the opposite of Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > Uccha Banga. It is caused if a Uccha Graha is Neecha in Navamsa, > > > > or is otherwise afflicted, causing its power to be reduced. > > > > > > > > 20. Is Uccha Banga the same as Neecha? > > > > > > > > No. It reduces the Uccha capability of a Graha, but not to such > > > > a great extent that it can be called Neecha. > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm> > > > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > > > http://vote. <http://vote.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Ranjan Ji, Rafel's problem is, he overlooks crosschecking what he is saying, he has crammed something and now in the process of applying them, however, a check is always required. But as he has taken Guruism in his head, the marvelous student in him is getting afflicted. regards, Lalit Mishra. , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Rafalji, > > Why is exaltation such a big driver for the soul reincarnating so > many times in this worldly reality? > > Some, if not all jyotishis, seem to be pushing that kind of > empowerment and strengthening for decades on the jyotish realm > seemingly through many different means, spiritual and not so > spiritual. It almost brings to mind the much maligned trend in > performance sport in the REAL world about use or abuse of performance > enhancing steroids and other drugs that are touted through email spam > that everyone on internet gets in wagon loads for improving this or > that performance, if you catch my drift! > > They all end up causing more agony, misery and fatal diseases. Are > the spiritual steroid analogues somehow different? > > It almost sounds like the illusory and Elusive Gold Medal that all > the worldly and spiritual jyotishis seem to be recommending! > > Are Great Spiritual beings never born with debilitated planets or > somewhere between exaltation and debility? Just as mahatmas do not > need to wait for purnima to show us their mortal face! > > RR > > , Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Vrinda, Namaskar > > > > It gives huge determination of native to break out through neecha > and > > gets exalted. Blessings of mother and community will be important. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru; > > email: rafal@ > > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com > > > > > > Dear Narasimhanji, > > > What happens when Kuja is neecha , retrograde and gets > > > neechabhanga by Chandra in Kataka? > > > Thanks, > > > Vrinda Krishna > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " rshekhar_74 " > > > <rshekhar_74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Narsimhanji, > > > > What is ur experience about the remedy for debilitated planets? > If > > > > its lord of auspicious house then should it be made stronger by > > > > wearing its gem or should it be propitiated by donating the > things > > > > related to it? > > > > Ravi shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, Balaji Narasimhan > > > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir ji, Rohini ji and others, > > > > > > > > > > I have compiled a small Q & A on Neecha Grahas in a FAQ form. > > > > > Please let me have your views. > > > > > > > > > > A compilation of basic thoughts on Neecha Grahas > > > > > > > > > > 1. Is there any way a Neecha Graha will cause absolutely no > > > > > problems? > > > > > > > > > > No way. There will be some problem even if the Graha gets > Neecha > > > > > Banga, or even Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > 2. What happens when a Graha is Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > It is essentially weak and will cause difficulties relating to > > > > > the house it owns and aspects. Its dasa/bukti will also be > > > > > painful. > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is Neecha Banga and how is it caused? > > > > > > > > > > Neecha Banga causes some alleviation, and is caused if the > Graha > > > > > is Uccha in Navamsa, with an Uccha Graha, etc. > > > > > > > > > > 4. Will Neecha Banga nullify the negative nature of a Neecha > > > > > Graha? > > > > > > > > > > It will reduce the effects. Total nullification is not > possible. > > > > > > > > > > 5. What happens when a Neecha Graha gets relief by itself? > > > > > > > > > > It will then reduce the difficulties concerning the houses it > > > > > owns, aspects, and its Dasa/Bukti will not be that painful. > > > > > > > > > > 6. What happens when another Graha helps a Neecha Graha to get > > > > > Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > The Neecha Graha will produce difficulties, but the Graha that > > > > > gives Neecha Banga will produce a good Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > 7. What is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > It is said that a Neecha Graha that is in a Kendra from Lagna > or > > > > > Chandra gives Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > 8. Is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga greater than Exaltation? > > > > > > > > > > Doubtful. While more blemishes are possibly removed by Neecha > > > > > Banga Raja Yoga than merely by Neecha Banga alone, there will > > > > > still be some difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > 9. If a Graha gets NBRY, can this be used for pronouncing > Pancha > > > > > Mahapurusha Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > No way. You consider yourself lucky that you have NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > 10. Is there any other way a Neecha Graha can get some relief? > > > > > > > > > > If a Neecha Graha is aspected by a benefic or a Trikonadipati, > > > > > then there is a possibility of some relief because the > > > > > Dasa/Bukti will be coloured by the benefic or the > Trikonadipati. > > > > > This is usually better than nothing at all! > > > > > > > > > > 11. Is there any possibility that Neecha is better than Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > Let's consider a scenario where Kuja and Guru are in Kataka. > The > > > > > former is Neecha, but the latter provides it Neecha Banga. So, > > > > > the native gets 7 years of bad Kuja Dasa, but 16 years of very > > > > > good Guru Dasa. Guru's Dasa will be anyway good because it is > > > > > Uccha, but by providing Neecha Banga to Kuja, it could improve > > > > > even more. > > > > > > > > > > 12. Isn't it better if, in the above example, both Grahas were > > > > > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that the aspects between Uccha Grahas can > > > > > lead to bankruptcy. Keeping this in mind, the above Neecha > Banga > > > > > is better than having Uccha Guru and Uccha Kuja Sama Saptaka. > > > > > > > > > > 13. Is there any other case where a Neecha Graha is > beneficial? > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that Jaya Yoga is caused when the lord of > the > > > > > 6th is Neecha, and the lord of the 10th is deeply exalted. > > > > > > > > > > 14. Is there any way in which one can escape the Neecha > effects? > > > > > > > > > > If Chandra is in the edge of the 4th Pada of a star owned by > the > > > > > Neecha Graha, it could be beneficial. This is because one > starts > > > > > at the very end of the dasa of the Neecha Graha - and one will > > > > > be dead by the time this Dasa comes up again after around > > > > > 100-120 years! However, the Buktis will still be painful, > though > > > > > fortunately they will operate for only a smaller period. > > > > > > > > > > 15. I have a Neecha Graha in my chart. Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. Remember, all factors should be kept in mind, > > > > > and if the rest of the chart is strong, one could lead a > fairly > > > > > good and successful life. Saravalli says that Surya, at the > > > > > point of his deepest fall in Tula (10 degrees), can destroy a > > > > > hundred Raja Yogas, but it is doubtful if this will actually > > > > > materialize in practice. > > > > > > > > > > 16. Which are the Neecha houses for Rahu and Ketu? > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are not exalted anywhere. So, they can't be > > > > > debilitated anywhere either. > > > > > > > > > > 17. Does this mean that Rahu and Ketu never experience the > state > > > > > of being Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > If the lord of the house in which Rahu or Ketu are posited is > > > > > Neecha, they will experience it to an extent. If the Neecha > > > > > Graha aspects Rahu or Ketu, again, Rahu and Ketu will behave > > > > > like these Grahas during their own Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > 18. Will Vipareeta Raja Yoga work if a Neecha Dushtana is in > > > > > another Dushtana house? > > > > > > > > > > It will technically be there, but only in theory. VRY requires > > > > > some strength, and a Neecha graha usually doesn't possess > > > > > strength, unless it gets Neecha Banga or NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > 19. What is the opposite of Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > Uccha Banga. It is caused if a Uccha Graha is Neecha in > Navamsa, > > > > > or is otherwise afflicted, causing its power to be reduced. > > > > > > > > > > 20. Is Uccha Banga the same as Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > No. It reduces the Uccha capability of a Graha, but not to > such > > > > > a great extent that it can be called Neecha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock- holmes.com/balaji.htm > > > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm> > > > > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > > > > http://vote. <http://vote.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 *hare rama krsna* Dear RR , Namaskar When graha is vakri it has huge chesta bala therefore determination, if thats connected to Lg then its directly connected to native choices. This planet will have strong say on affairs in chart, and if its debilitated then it would like to overcome its state. Thats very fundamental and simple construction, so I dont know why this confusion. For proper understanding what I wrote You can see srigaruda.com where this issue is described. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru; email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com > > Ranjan Ji, > > Rafel's problem is, he overlooks crosschecking what he is saying, he > has crammed something and now in the process of applying them, > however, a check is always required. > > But as he has taken Guruism in his head, the marvelous student in him > is getting afflicted. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > > <%40>, " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > Why is exaltation such a big driver for the soul reincarnating so > > many times in this worldly reality? > > > > Some, if not all jyotishis, seem to be pushing that kind of > > empowerment and strengthening for decades on the jyotish realm > > seemingly through many different means, spiritual and not so > > spiritual. It almost brings to mind the much maligned trend in > > performance sport in the REAL world about use or abuse of > performance > > enhancing steroids and other drugs that are touted through email > spam > > that everyone on internet gets in wagon loads for improving this or > > that performance, if you catch my drift! > > > > They all end up causing more agony, misery and fatal diseases. Are > > the spiritual steroid analogues somehow different? > > > > It almost sounds like the illusory and Elusive Gold Medal that all > > the worldly and spiritual jyotishis seem to be recommending! > > > > Are Great Spiritual beings never born with debilitated planets or > > somewhere between exaltation and debility? Just as mahatmas do not > > need to wait for purnima to show us their mortal face! > > > > RR > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > Dear Vrinda, Namaskar > > > > > > It gives huge determination of native to break out through neecha > > and > > > gets exalted. Blessings of mother and community will be important. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru; > > > email: rafal@ > > > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhanji, > > > > What happens when Kuja is neecha , retrograde and gets > > > > neechabhanga by Chandra in Kataka? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vrinda Krishna > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, " rshekhar_74 " > > > > <rshekhar_74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narsimhanji, > > > > > What is ur experience about the remedy for debilitated > planets? > > If > > > > > its lord of auspicious house then should it be made stronger > by > > > > > wearing its gem or should it be propitiated by donating the > > things > > > > > related to it? > > > > > Ravi shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Balaji Narasimhan > > > > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir ji, Rohini ji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have compiled a small Q & A on Neecha Grahas in a FAQ form. > > > > > > Please let me have your views. > > > > > > > > > > > > A compilation of basic thoughts on Neecha Grahas > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Is there any way a Neecha Graha will cause absolutely no > > > > > > problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > No way. There will be some problem even if the Graha gets > > Neecha > > > > > > Banga, or even Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What happens when a Graha is Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > It is essentially weak and will cause difficulties relating > to > > > > > > the house it owns and aspects. Its dasa/bukti will also be > > > > > > painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is Neecha Banga and how is it caused? > > > > > > > > > > > > Neecha Banga causes some alleviation, and is caused if the > > Graha > > > > > > is Uccha in Navamsa, with an Uccha Graha, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Will Neecha Banga nullify the negative nature of a Neecha > > > > > > Graha? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will reduce the effects. Total nullification is not > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. What happens when a Neecha Graha gets relief by itself? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will then reduce the difficulties concerning the houses > it > > > > > > owns, aspects, and its Dasa/Bukti will not be that painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. What happens when another Graha helps a Neecha Graha to > get > > > > > > Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Neecha Graha will produce difficulties, but the Graha > that > > > > > > gives Neecha Banga will produce a good Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. What is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that a Neecha Graha that is in a Kendra from > Lagna > > or > > > > > > Chandra gives Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga greater than Exaltation? > > > > > > > > > > > > Doubtful. While more blemishes are possibly removed by > Neecha > > > > > > Banga Raja Yoga than merely by Neecha Banga alone, there > will > > > > > > still be some difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. If a Graha gets NBRY, can this be used for pronouncing > > Pancha > > > > > > Mahapurusha Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > No way. You consider yourself lucky that you have NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. Is there any other way a Neecha Graha can get some > relief? > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Neecha Graha is aspected by a benefic or a > Trikonadipati, > > > > > > then there is a possibility of some relief because the > > > > > > Dasa/Bukti will be coloured by the benefic or the > > Trikonadipati. > > > > > > This is usually better than nothing at all! > > > > > > > > > > > > 11. Is there any possibility that Neecha is better than > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's consider a scenario where Kuja and Guru are in > Kataka. > > The > > > > > > former is Neecha, but the latter provides it Neecha Banga. > So, > > > > > > the native gets 7 years of bad Kuja Dasa, but 16 years of > very > > > > > > good Guru Dasa. Guru's Dasa will be anyway good because it > is > > > > > > Uccha, but by providing Neecha Banga to Kuja, it could > improve > > > > > > even more. > > > > > > > > > > > > 12. Isn't it better if, in the above example, both Grahas > were > > > > > > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that the aspects between Uccha Grahas can > > > > > > lead to bankruptcy. Keeping this in mind, the above Neecha > > Banga > > > > > > is better than having Uccha Guru and Uccha Kuja Sama > Saptaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. Is there any other case where a Neecha Graha is > > beneficial? > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that Jaya Yoga is caused when the lord > of > > the > > > > > > 6th is Neecha, and the lord of the 10th is deeply exalted. > > > > > > > > > > > > 14. Is there any way in which one can escape the Neecha > > effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > If Chandra is in the edge of the 4th Pada of a star owned > by > > the > > > > > > Neecha Graha, it could be beneficial. This is because one > > starts > > > > > > at the very end of the dasa of the Neecha Graha - and one > will > > > > > > be dead by the time this Dasa comes up again after around > > > > > > 100-120 years! However, the Buktis will still be painful, > > though > > > > > > fortunately they will operate for only a smaller period. > > > > > > > > > > > > 15. I have a Neecha Graha in my chart. Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. Remember, all factors should be kept in > mind, > > > > > > and if the rest of the chart is strong, one could lead a > > fairly > > > > > > good and successful life. Saravalli says that Surya, at the > > > > > > point of his deepest fall in Tula (10 degrees), can destroy > a > > > > > > hundred Raja Yogas, but it is doubtful if this will actually > > > > > > materialize in practice. > > > > > > > > > > > > 16. Which are the Neecha houses for Rahu and Ketu? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are not exalted anywhere. So, they can't be > > > > > > debilitated anywhere either. > > > > > > > > > > > > 17. Does this mean that Rahu and Ketu never experience the > > state > > > > > > of being Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > If the lord of the house in which Rahu or Ketu are posited > is > > > > > > Neecha, they will experience it to an extent. If the Neecha > > > > > > Graha aspects Rahu or Ketu, again, Rahu and Ketu will behave > > > > > > like these Grahas during their own Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18. Will Vipareeta Raja Yoga work if a Neecha Dushtana is in > > > > > > another Dushtana house? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will technically be there, but only in theory. VRY > requires > > > > > > some strength, and a Neecha graha usually doesn't possess > > > > > > strength, unless it gets Neecha Banga or NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > > > 19. What is the opposite of Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > > > Uccha Banga. It is caused if a Uccha Graha is Neecha in > > Navamsa, > > > > > > or is otherwise afflicted, causing its power to be reduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > 20. Is Uccha Banga the same as Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > No. It reduces the Uccha capability of a Graha, but not to > > such > > > > > > a great extent that it can be called Neecha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock- <http://www.sherlock-> > holmes.com/balaji.htm > > > > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm>> > > > > > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > > > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > http://vote. <http://vote.> > <http://vote. <http://vote.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 That was not my question, Rafalji. For proper understanding please reread my question, right here no need to go www.anywhere.com ;-) Very straightforward, fundamental and simple question, so I don't know why this confusion? <smile> RR , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > Dear RR , Namaskar > > When graha is vakri it has huge chesta bala therefore determination, if > thats connected to Lg then its directly connected to native choices. > This planet will have strong say on affairs in chart, and if its > debilitated then it would like to overcome its state. Thats very > fundamental and simple construction, so I dont know why this confusion. > > For proper understanding what I wrote You can see srigaruda.com where > this issue is described. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru; > email: rafal > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com > > > > Ranjan Ji, > > > > Rafel's problem is, he overlooks crosschecking what he is saying, he > > has crammed something and now in the process of applying them, > > however, a check is always required. > > > > But as he has taken Guruism in his head, the marvelous student in him > > is getting afflicted. > > > > regards, > > Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > <%40>, " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > Why is exaltation such a big driver for the soul reincarnating so > > > many times in this worldly reality? > > > > > > Some, if not all jyotishis, seem to be pushing that kind of > > > empowerment and strengthening for decades on the jyotish realm > > > seemingly through many different means, spiritual and not so > > > spiritual. It almost brings to mind the much maligned trend in > > > performance sport in the REAL world about use or abuse of > > performance > > > enhancing steroids and other drugs that are touted through email > > spam > > > that everyone on internet gets in wagon loads for improving this or > > > that performance, if you catch my drift! > > > > > > They all end up causing more agony, misery and fatal diseases. Are > > > the spiritual steroid analogues somehow different? > > > > > > It almost sounds like the illusory and Elusive Gold Medal that all > > > the worldly and spiritual jyotishis seem to be recommending! > > > > > > Are Great Spiritual beings never born with debilitated planets or > > > somewhere between exaltation and debility? Just as mahatmas do not > > > need to wait for purnima to show us their mortal face! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > > Dear Vrinda, Namaskar > > > > > > > > It gives huge determination of native to break out through neecha > > > and > > > > gets exalted. Blessings of mother and community will be important. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru; > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhanji, > > > > > What happens when Kuja is neecha , retrograde and gets > > > > > neechabhanga by Chandra in Kataka? > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Vrinda Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, " rshekhar_74 " > > > > > <rshekhar_74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narsimhanji, > > > > > > What is ur experience about the remedy for debilitated > > planets? > > > If > > > > > > its lord of auspicious house then should it be made stronger > > by > > > > > > wearing its gem or should it be propitiated by donating the > > > things > > > > > > related to it? > > > > > > Ravi shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, Balaji Narasimhan > > > > > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir ji, Rohini ji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have compiled a small Q & A on Neecha Grahas in a FAQ form. > > > > > > > Please let me have your views. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A compilation of basic thoughts on Neecha Grahas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Is there any way a Neecha Graha will cause absolutely no > > > > > > > problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No way. There will be some problem even if the Graha gets > > > Neecha > > > > > > > Banga, or even Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What happens when a Graha is Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is essentially weak and will cause difficulties relating > > to > > > > > > > the house it owns and aspects. Its dasa/bukti will also be > > > > > > > painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is Neecha Banga and how is it caused? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neecha Banga causes some alleviation, and is caused if the > > > Graha > > > > > > > is Uccha in Navamsa, with an Uccha Graha, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Will Neecha Banga nullify the negative nature of a Neecha > > > > > > > Graha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will reduce the effects. Total nullification is not > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. What happens when a Neecha Graha gets relief by itself? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will then reduce the difficulties concerning the houses > > it > > > > > > > owns, aspects, and its Dasa/Bukti will not be that painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. What happens when another Graha helps a Neecha Graha to > > get > > > > > > > Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Neecha Graha will produce difficulties, but the Graha > > that > > > > > > > gives Neecha Banga will produce a good Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. What is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that a Neecha Graha that is in a Kendra from > > Lagna > > > or > > > > > > > Chandra gives Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga greater than Exaltation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doubtful. While more blemishes are possibly removed by > > Neecha > > > > > > > Banga Raja Yoga than merely by Neecha Banga alone, there > > will > > > > > > > still be some difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. If a Graha gets NBRY, can this be used for pronouncing > > > Pancha > > > > > > > Mahapurusha Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No way. You consider yourself lucky that you have NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. Is there any other way a Neecha Graha can get some > > relief? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Neecha Graha is aspected by a benefic or a > > Trikonadipati, > > > > > > > then there is a possibility of some relief because the > > > > > > > Dasa/Bukti will be coloured by the benefic or the > > > Trikonadipati. > > > > > > > This is usually better than nothing at all! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11. Is there any possibility that Neecha is better than > > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's consider a scenario where Kuja and Guru are in > > Kataka. > > > The > > > > > > > former is Neecha, but the latter provides it Neecha Banga. > > So, > > > > > > > the native gets 7 years of bad Kuja Dasa, but 16 years of > > very > > > > > > > good Guru Dasa. Guru's Dasa will be anyway good because it > > is > > > > > > > Uccha, but by providing Neecha Banga to Kuja, it could > > improve > > > > > > > even more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12. Isn't it better if, in the above example, both Grahas > > were > > > > > > > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that the aspects between Uccha Grahas can > > > > > > > lead to bankruptcy. Keeping this in mind, the above Neecha > > > Banga > > > > > > > is better than having Uccha Guru and Uccha Kuja Sama > > Saptaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. Is there any other case where a Neecha Graha is > > > beneficial? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that Jaya Yoga is caused when the lord > > of > > > the > > > > > > > 6th is Neecha, and the lord of the 10th is deeply exalted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14. Is there any way in which one can escape the Neecha > > > effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Chandra is in the edge of the 4th Pada of a star owned > > by > > > the > > > > > > > Neecha Graha, it could be beneficial. This is because one > > > starts > > > > > > > at the very end of the dasa of the Neecha Graha - and one > > will > > > > > > > be dead by the time this Dasa comes up again after around > > > > > > > 100-120 years! However, the Buktis will still be painful, > > > though > > > > > > > fortunately they will operate for only a smaller period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15. I have a Neecha Graha in my chart. Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. Remember, all factors should be kept in > > mind, > > > > > > > and if the rest of the chart is strong, one could lead a > > > fairly > > > > > > > good and successful life. Saravalli says that Surya, at the > > > > > > > point of his deepest fall in Tula (10 degrees), can destroy > > a > > > > > > > hundred Raja Yogas, but it is doubtful if this will actually > > > > > > > materialize in practice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16. Which are the Neecha houses for Rahu and Ketu? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are not exalted anywhere. So, they can't be > > > > > > > debilitated anywhere either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 17. Does this mean that Rahu and Ketu never experience the > > > state > > > > > > > of being Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the lord of the house in which Rahu or Ketu are posited > > is > > > > > > > Neecha, they will experience it to an extent. If the Neecha > > > > > > > Graha aspects Rahu or Ketu, again, Rahu and Ketu will behave > > > > > > > like these Grahas during their own Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18. Will Vipareeta Raja Yoga work if a Neecha Dushtana is in > > > > > > > another Dushtana house? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will technically be there, but only in theory. VRY > > requires > > > > > > > some strength, and a Neecha graha usually doesn't possess > > > > > > > strength, unless it gets Neecha Banga or NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 19. What is the opposite of Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uccha Banga. It is caused if a Uccha Graha is Neecha in > > > Navamsa, > > > > > > > or is otherwise afflicted, causing its power to be reduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20. Is Uccha Banga the same as Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. It reduces the Uccha capability of a Graha, but not to > > > such > > > > > > > a great extent that it can be called Neecha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock- <http://www.sherlock-> > > holmes.com/balaji.htm > > > > > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm > > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm>> > > > > > > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > > > > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > > http://vote. <http://vote.> > > <http://vote. <http://vote.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Ah! Thanks for the warning :-) RR , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Ranjan Ji, > > Rafel's problem is, he overlooks crosschecking what he is saying, he > has crammed something and now in the process of applying them, > however, a check is always required. > > But as he has taken Guruism in his head, the marvelous student in him > is getting afflicted. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > Why is exaltation such a big driver for the soul reincarnating so > > many times in this worldly reality? > > > > Some, if not all jyotishis, seem to be pushing that kind of > > empowerment and strengthening for decades on the jyotish realm > > seemingly through many different means, spiritual and not so > > spiritual. It almost brings to mind the much maligned trend in > > performance sport in the REAL world about use or abuse of > performance > > enhancing steroids and other drugs that are touted through email > spam > > that everyone on internet gets in wagon loads for improving this or > > that performance, if you catch my drift! > > > > They all end up causing more agony, misery and fatal diseases. Are > > the spiritual steroid analogues somehow different? > > > > It almost sounds like the illusory and Elusive Gold Medal that all > > the worldly and spiritual jyotishis seem to be recommending! > > > > Are Great Spiritual beings never born with debilitated planets or > > somewhere between exaltation and debility? Just as mahatmas do not > > need to wait for purnima to show us their mortal face! > > > > RR > > > > , Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *hare rama krsna* > > > Dear Vrinda, Namaskar > > > > > > It gives huge determination of native to break out through neecha > > and > > > gets exalted. Blessings of mother and community will be important. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru; > > > email: rafal@ > > > Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimhanji, > > > > What happens when Kuja is neecha , retrograde and gets > > > > neechabhanga by Chandra in Kataka? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vrinda Krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " rshekhar_74 " > > > > <rshekhar_74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narsimhanji, > > > > > What is ur experience about the remedy for debilitated > planets? > > If > > > > > its lord of auspicious house then should it be made stronger > by > > > > > wearing its gem or should it be propitiated by donating the > > things > > > > > related to it? > > > > > Ravi shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, Balaji Narasimhan > > > > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir ji, Rohini ji and others, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have compiled a small Q & A on Neecha Grahas in a FAQ form. > > > > > > Please let me have your views. > > > > > > > > > > > > A compilation of basic thoughts on Neecha Grahas > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Is there any way a Neecha Graha will cause absolutely no > > > > > > problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > No way. There will be some problem even if the Graha gets > > Neecha > > > > > > Banga, or even Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What happens when a Graha is Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > It is essentially weak and will cause difficulties relating > to > > > > > > the house it owns and aspects. Its dasa/bukti will also be > > > > > > painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. What is Neecha Banga and how is it caused? > > > > > > > > > > > > Neecha Banga causes some alleviation, and is caused if the > > Graha > > > > > > is Uccha in Navamsa, with an Uccha Graha, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Will Neecha Banga nullify the negative nature of a Neecha > > > > > > Graha? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will reduce the effects. Total nullification is not > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. What happens when a Neecha Graha gets relief by itself? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will then reduce the difficulties concerning the houses > it > > > > > > owns, aspects, and its Dasa/Bukti will not be that painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. What happens when another Graha helps a Neecha Graha to > get > > > > > > Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Neecha Graha will produce difficulties, but the Graha > that > > > > > > gives Neecha Banga will produce a good Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. What is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that a Neecha Graha that is in a Kendra from > Lagna > > or > > > > > > Chandra gives Neecha Banga Raja Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. Is Neecha Banga Raja Yoga greater than Exaltation? > > > > > > > > > > > > Doubtful. While more blemishes are possibly removed by > Neecha > > > > > > Banga Raja Yoga than merely by Neecha Banga alone, there > will > > > > > > still be some difficulty. > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. If a Graha gets NBRY, can this be used for pronouncing > > Pancha > > > > > > Mahapurusha Yoga? > > > > > > > > > > > > No way. You consider yourself lucky that you have NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > > > 10. Is there any other way a Neecha Graha can get some > relief? > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Neecha Graha is aspected by a benefic or a > Trikonadipati, > > > > > > then there is a possibility of some relief because the > > > > > > Dasa/Bukti will be coloured by the benefic or the > > Trikonadipati. > > > > > > This is usually better than nothing at all! > > > > > > > > > > > > 11. Is there any possibility that Neecha is better than > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's consider a scenario where Kuja and Guru are in > Kataka. > > The > > > > > > former is Neecha, but the latter provides it Neecha Banga. > So, > > > > > > the native gets 7 years of bad Kuja Dasa, but 16 years of > very > > > > > > good Guru Dasa. Guru's Dasa will be anyway good because it > is > > > > > > Uccha, but by providing Neecha Banga to Kuja, it could > improve > > > > > > even more. > > > > > > > > > > > > 12. Isn't it better if, in the above example, both Grahas > were > > > > > > Uccha? > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that the aspects between Uccha Grahas can > > > > > > lead to bankruptcy. Keeping this in mind, the above Neecha > > Banga > > > > > > is better than having Uccha Guru and Uccha Kuja Sama > Saptaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > 13. Is there any other case where a Neecha Graha is > > beneficial? > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri BV Raman says that Jaya Yoga is caused when the lord > of > > the > > > > > > 6th is Neecha, and the lord of the 10th is deeply exalted. > > > > > > > > > > > > 14. Is there any way in which one can escape the Neecha > > effects? > > > > > > > > > > > > If Chandra is in the edge of the 4th Pada of a star owned > by > > the > > > > > > Neecha Graha, it could be beneficial. This is because one > > starts > > > > > > at the very end of the dasa of the Neecha Graha - and one > will > > > > > > be dead by the time this Dasa comes up again after around > > > > > > 100-120 years! However, the Buktis will still be painful, > > though > > > > > > fortunately they will operate for only a smaller period. > > > > > > > > > > > > 15. I have a Neecha Graha in my chart. Should I be worried? > > > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. Remember, all factors should be kept in > mind, > > > > > > and if the rest of the chart is strong, one could lead a > > fairly > > > > > > good and successful life. Saravalli says that Surya, at the > > > > > > point of his deepest fall in Tula (10 degrees), can destroy > a > > > > > > hundred Raja Yogas, but it is doubtful if this will actually > > > > > > materialize in practice. > > > > > > > > > > > > 16. Which are the Neecha houses for Rahu and Ketu? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu and Ketu are not exalted anywhere. So, they can't be > > > > > > debilitated anywhere either. > > > > > > > > > > > > 17. Does this mean that Rahu and Ketu never experience the > > state > > > > > > of being Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > If the lord of the house in which Rahu or Ketu are posited > is > > > > > > Neecha, they will experience it to an extent. If the Neecha > > > > > > Graha aspects Rahu or Ketu, again, Rahu and Ketu will behave > > > > > > like these Grahas during their own Dasa/Bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18. Will Vipareeta Raja Yoga work if a Neecha Dushtana is in > > > > > > another Dushtana house? > > > > > > > > > > > > It will technically be there, but only in theory. VRY > requires > > > > > > some strength, and a Neecha graha usually doesn't possess > > > > > > strength, unless it gets Neecha Banga or NBRY. > > > > > > > > > > > > 19. What is the opposite of Neecha Banga? > > > > > > > > > > > > Uccha Banga. It is caused if a Uccha Graha is Neecha in > > Navamsa, > > > > > > or is otherwise afflicted, causing its power to be reduced. > > > > > > > > > > > > 20. Is Uccha Banga the same as Neecha? > > > > > > > > > > > > No. It reduces the Uccha capability of a Graha, but not to > > such > > > > > > a great extent that it can be called Neecha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > Balaji Narasimhan * http://www.sherlock- > holmes.com/balaji.htm > > > > <http://www.sherlock-holmes.com/balaji.htm> > > > > > > Author, Sherlock Holmes: Solutions from the Sussex Downs > > > > > > Editor, The Partial Art of Detection > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > > > > > http://vote. <http://vote.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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