Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Hi Mukund, It's been a long time since I have returned to this forum. I sincerely thank you for your advise and understanding the plight of the under privileged and also of those who have to witness this. I have been donating to orphanages and sponsoring education for the poor girls, I will certainly donate to NGO for helping rescue those poor helpless girls from brothel houses. Thanks for providing direction. I will also request the members of this forum to suggest some poojas /mantras/ havan/homas that we all can participate in or individually that is appropriate for a cause like this. Please suggest. And for those of us who can help with financial aid , please do so by donating to such organizations, as the poor and the troubled children/women of our country and society need both ;our sincere prayers and monetary help to rescue them. , " monmuk111 " <monmuk111 wrote: > > > Hello Rinku: > > Began donating to NGOs that rescue young girls from brothels. This > problem, especially in Bombay, is out of control and gut- wrentching. > > Girls used to be brough/bought from Nepal. These days girls as young > as 12 are being bought/brought from almost every poor part of India. > > The economic boom that the " educated class " in India is experiencing > hasn't reached the masses at all. And some communities, especially in > North-East India, and communities along the Bangladesh border are > openly and regularly selling their daughters (even pre-pubescent). > I've been donating, whatever little I can, for rescuing young girls > from Bombay brothels so I know a little bit about what's going on > there. > > What needs to be done is establishment of a massive manufacturing > infrastructure on the scale of China, or even larger, all over India, > which in turn will provide employment and remove the abject poverty. > However, this can't be done without significant government support > and participation. > > Well, goverment support and participation is unlikely for the next 5- > 10 years as the Congress government is too busy cheating and bilking > the state treasury and the corporate as well as individual citizens. > > I feel India is Karmically cursed. It is sad that the people of India > removed the " few good men " of BJP who could've helped India turn > into China and replaced them with Congressi crooks who'll ruin India. > > For the first time in 6 years, I was agressively and repeatedly > hasseled for a bribe at the Bombay International airport, despite > being a foreigner. I pity the plight of the Indian citizens. I > inquired why was there this " about-turn " in the attitude of Customs > official and I was told that they had orders to collect bribes of Rs. > 10 crores per month for the minister in charge of Excise. > > Rinku, it is nice that along side the crooks and savages are people > like you who're sensitive to the plight of the poor and the less- > fortunate. Do what you can within your means for the ones who're > suffering. I'll build up your karmic reserves. > > Mukund > > , " rinkugandhi " > <rinkugandhi> wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > I want to know that since we all are the priviledged ones to be > born > > to good parents, raised in good households with education and > wealth > > what can we do to help others that are not so lucky as we all are. > I > > am extremely disturbed from time to time when I see poverty and > > crime caused due to that. Just a yesterday i saw yet another heart > > rendering documentary about the plight of the young girls sold due > > to poverty and the horrible life they live in brothels. How they > > live the most painful life and die due to diseases even before they > > reach the age of 20 leaving behind children who are also HIV > > infected and would die soon. > > It is not for ourselves always that we should look for remedies. > > Since I am bound by social and personal obligations to not shun my > > obligations and go and help those in need. Is there a way I can > > perform some kind of remedy to help reduce the suffering in this > > world. > > > > I can pray I know, but to be honest after a few days I will start > > praying for myself and my family but I will forget to include the > > under priviledged ones , and when I do I don't know if it is making > > any difference. > > Hope some of you can relate to me and understand where my request > > for a remedy of this type is stemming from. > > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 The basic assumptions underlying worldly reality are the following: Desire leads to action (karma) and over a series of lifetimes a state of equilibrium is reached. This is the basic substrate on which the edifice (university/temple??) of astrology is built. While it explains to some extent and brings sense back into chaotic patterns for the 'individual', perhaps the assumption is larger and more complex and involves larger *conglomerate-units* of incarnated facets of the universal soul. There could be familial karma, communal karma, national karma and global karma. This is not a new concept or for that matter overly fantastic either. Similarity of astrological patterns in a family, for instance, and similarity of experiences as well as genetic similarities are all hints that such a correlation may not be far-fetched. There is nothing wrong in thinking about oneself, even when praying for instance. What is wrong perhaps is to get stuck in that mode, that mindset. A lifetime is not judged by how many wrongs one has committed and successfully reversed or made amends for, but perhaps just a ledger-like sum total of positive and negative actions. Perhaps God is just interested in the bottom-line and not each item in the ledger. I have seen a few individuals who have been known at the same time as very malefic and very benefic by different groups of people. Some of these individuals have indeed done bad things and taken advantage of some people, but have also benefitted others and overall felt good and were successful. I realize that one can argue that they had done good karmas earlier births and so on. I did say it was complex and not simple. The way to manage this karma ledger is to start a journal. Each day before going to bed (before sleep wipes some of the memories or changes ones perspective (!) go over what you have done and experienced during the day. Without going over obsessive, think of the good and bad deeds you did or any significantly prominent good or bad thought as well. Give yourself a score, a -1 if you had done more bad, a 0 if you were in balance and a +1 if you were overall more good than bad. On rare days, you may give yourself a -2 or +2 but do not cheat! Be brutally honest. When in doubt about a certain action, give yourself the best guess score but also write a note to yourself in the journal about the nature of the indeterminate action or thought which causes confusion in mind. Similarly, you may want to write a note about the actions etc on the -2 and +2 days. After about a year, add up the total and the best day to do this is on your birthday. If you were more bad in the year, then donate your blood more than once during the year (figure out a scoring system that works for you and is below the maximum number of times you can donate blood! Ask your doctor or blood bank). If you had been in balance (lucky you!) or even in a positive state, at least donate blood once a year, maybe on your birthday or another special occasion. You will find that by doing this simple routine, you will begin to feel better and if god wishes you will begin to feel luckier as well. For those who cannot donate blood for one or other reason, there are other options available. Please consult your spiritual advisor, or jyotishi etc about those. Regards, Rohiniranjan , " rinkugandhi " <rinkugandhi wrote: > > > Hello All, > I want to know that since we all are the priviledged ones to be born > to good parents, raised in good households with education and wealth > what can we do to help others that are not so lucky as we all are. I > am extremely disturbed from time to time when I see poverty and > crime caused due to that. Just a yesterday i saw yet another heart > rendering documentary about the plight of the young girls sold due > to poverty and the horrible life they live in brothels. How they > live the most painful life and die due to diseases even before they > reach the age of 20 leaving behind children who are also HIV > infected and would die soon. > It is not for ourselves always that we should look for remedies. > Since I am bound by social and personal obligations to not shun my > obligations and go and help those in need. Is there a way I can > perform some kind of remedy to help reduce the suffering in this > world. > > I can pray I know, but to be honest after a few days I will start > praying for myself and my family but I will forget to include the > under priviledged ones , and when I do I don't know if it is making > any difference. > Hope some of you can relate to me and understand where my request > for a remedy of this type is stemming from. > Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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