Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 THE AUTHOR OF LAL KITAB Note : I m not the author of this article - Lalit Mishra. The late Pandit Roop Chand Joshi, a native of village Pharwala, situated in district Jalandhar, Punjab is the originator and the author of the Lal Kitab system. He was inarguably, one of the greatest seers of all times. Pt. Roop Chand kept an extremely low profile and avoided publicity at all costs. That is why his name is not well known outside his native area. Pt. Roop Chand Joshi (January 18, 1898 – December 24, 1982) was the son of Pt. Jyoti Ram Joshi, a revenue official with the Punjab government. The family did not have a history of the traditional Brahmanical profession. Pt.Roop Chand was a brilliant student who was endowed with beautiful handwriting (Parts of the Lal Kitabs are written in his own handwriting ) and a sharp intellect – he obtained merit scholarships in the fourth and eighth grades. After matriculation, he became a school teacher. A few years later, in early 1920's, he joined the then British Indian government in the Defence Accounts Department from which he retired as a gazetted officer in 1954. Pandit Roop Chand had lost his mother as a child and therefore, had faced numerous hardships. Despite the fact that he was a very serious, hardworking person, yet he continued to struggle. Why did he have to struggle so much, is the question that he used to ask himself. Some of his peers having far lesser merit than him, got all the good things of life handed to them in the proverbial silver platter. It would be interesting to find an answer to this hidden mystery of nature, he used to think. Gradually, he started noticing that by looking at the facial features of a cow, he could describe the characteristics and, to some extent, the life events of its owner. Next, he intuitively got into human physiognomy, that is, the ability to judge one's character and fate by merely looking at one's face and the lines on the forehead. Soon, he was able to decipher the lines on the hands and sole of the feet. By this time, he was able to tell about the current happenings and the past events quite successfully. The ability to foresee, however, eluded him. In any event, he was not very serious about all this. It was merely a hobby. It must be pointed out that his knowledge of physiognomy and palmistry came to him from within, he neither studied a book on this subject nor was he tutored by anyone. As his curiosity increased he became interested in astronomy (not astrology) - he decided to read about stars and the universe. Just about then, one night, something extraordinarily amazing happened. The history of traditional astrology was to change. In a dream, he saw an unseen person (Panditji described this " Power " as a " Divine Being " ) who told Pt.Roop Chand that he had been " picked " to modify and bring to the world, a revolutionary system of astrology. His entire knowledge of physiognomy, palmistry and the prevalent surroundings was to be amalgamated into one discipline. Further, he would have no choice but to follow this path wholeheartedly. He will have to learn and develop the basics of the system, and help others with it and disseminate this knowledge. Panditji's training started that night itself. Every morning, he would be made to write down in a notebook, whatever he had learnt in his dreams the night before. Despite his initial reluctance, he found himself unable to resist this " Power " or the " Divine Being. " For months, he would lit his hukkah (A smoking pipe), go into a sort of a trance (semi-conscious state) and write down what was being dictated to him. At times, he would find these notes hard to decipher. At this point in time, Pandit Roop Chand was already married and had children. Every once in a while, when Panditji would be baffled by the complexity of these lessons, his three year old son (Pandit Som Dutt Joshi, now a retired Land Revenue officer from Punjab government and arguably the foremost Lal Kitab expert) would come up to him and explain to him what the pages meant. Initially, it scared Pt. Roop Chand, " Oh now this Divine Power is taking over my children, too, " but he understood the responsibility he had been entrusted with and he took it as a way of nature to get the knowledge to him. The " Divine Being " would deliver the knowledge to Panditji who termed these as " farmaans " (an Urdu word for directives or edicts.) The preface of 1941 edition of Lal Kitab states: " Kya hua tha, kya bhi hoga, shounk dil mein aa gayaa, Hast rekha ya ki kundali, haal sab farmaya gayaa ….. Ishaaraa hee baat kar ke, haal sab padhvaya gayaa Roughly translated: " The past and the future, became my hobby. " He " combined the knowledge of palmistry and the birth chart and dictated to me the entire knowledge….. He provided me with hints, and tutored me to understand this facility. " Panditji continued to receive this knowledge. He was transferred from place to place – Lahore and Quetta (now in Pakistan), Dharamsala, Delhi, Madras, Bombay, Jullunder, Kangra, Simla, and Ambala Cantt, among others. Pandit Roop Chand Joshi started interpreting people's horoscopes based on this newfound knowledge. As his expertise and experience developed, his reputation started spreading. People from all walks of life started visiting him. This popularity became a big problem for him. He had a full time government job, a family to raise and at the same time, he wanted to expand on his knowledge of the Lal Kitab system. He also wanted to spread the knowledge he had gained (by authoring the Lal Kitabs.) The purpose behind publishing was not to make money. He just wanted to spread the knowledge and be able to help his fellow human beings the best way he could – through the use of remedial measures of the Lal Kitab system. Scholars agree that the most important feature of Lal Kitab system is to determine the planet or planets causing ill effects in one's life and the propitiation of these malefic effects through easy-to-perform, low-cost, and extremely effective and easy remedial measures. While analyzing a person's horoscope, Panditji would make short, specific, stunningly accurate, verifiable statements pertaining to the person whose horoscope was being analyzed. His purpose would be to confirm the accuracy of the horoscope and to identify planets causing ill effects rather than to dazzle the public with his knowledge (Anyone who studies the Lal Kitab system properly, can do the same.) Following this, Panditji would prescribe one or two remedial measures. A few weeks later, the same people would return to him thanking him profusely because their problems would disappear. Even more remarkable aspect of Panditji's reading was that he would neither charge, nor accept any money for these services. You just could not pay him. Panditji was very specific about it. As we have said before, making money through the use of Lal Kitab was the farthest thing from his mind. When he authored and published the Lal Kitabs, the selling price was set at no profit, no loss basis. Some of these books were purchased in dozens by his well-wishers to help him recover his money. Only a few books were offered for sale. The rest, Panditji kept for himself for distribution to those whom he considered worthy of it. These books were published anonymously; Panditji did not give his name as the author. There were two reason behind this. First, he was a government official and during those days of the British rule, a " government servant " would almost never get official clearance to publish anything at all. Second, he wanted absolutely no publicity for his own self. He guarded his privacy very jealously. All his life, he would not face a camera (except.perhaps twice.) He used to say jokingly, that he had already gained enough " notoriety " ; he didn't need any more. During his lifetime, he steadfastly refused to be interviewed by the media. After retirement, Panditji returned to Pharwala. His son, Pt.Som Dutt, had just finished his B.A; B.T. For a few hours each day, Pt..Som Dutt would sit with his father and prepare horoscopes and Varsh Phals and just listen to what the father was saying. He had helped his father during the family's stay in Shimla, Dharamsala and Lahore by learning to cast horoscopes and, as the books were being written by the Qatibs (Urdu calligraphers) he would help in proofing the material. He was there to help and just watch Panditji and learn by observing. However, it was a difficult task to work for the father who was a stern taskmaster and a perfectionist to a fault. Panditji constructed a separate " Baithak " (Sitting Room) detached from his house, as his library-cum-place for visitors. He would never interpret horoscopes past sunset. Most of the nights, he would get up around two or three in the morning and go to his " Baithak " to write or to reflect. He had already devised an easy way to make annual progressed horoscope (Varshphal) which is in the form of a table - this " Varshphal Chart " is included in most of the editions of Lal Kitab. He also formulated a universal Lagna Sarni (table of ascendants.) From this, one can determine the lagna (ascendant) anywhere in the world for any year – again, all calculations have been eliminated. Panditji used to say that one of the purposes of the Lal Kitab system is to make astrology easy; that is why all types of complex calculations have been eliminated from this system; even a multiplication of `2 by 2' has been replaced. It is `2+2' in the Lal Kitab system. Panditji quit smoking the hukkah after retirement. The only luxury he ever enjoyed was collecting and using the best in writing instruments and stationery. He owned numerous Mont Blancs, Parkers, Cartiers, Shaeffers etc. If you were ever lucky to see his collection, you would see the best writing pens ever manufactured. Panditji would also use the best quality of writing paper and inks. In order to write Urdu, he would rub the points (nibs) of these Mont Blancs and Parkers on a fine slate very meticulously. Like a great workman, he would produce nibs of varying widths. He would spend hours upon hours perfecting the points so as to be able to write Urdu calligraphy. Other than that, everything in his life was centered around Lal Kitab. He lived for it! A TYPICAL DAY IN PANDITJI'S LIFE Particularly on Sundays, this scene would repeat at about five in the morning or even earlier, around his " Baithak. " People would start lining up and wait patiently for Panditji's arrival. He would entertain people without any regard to one's rank or position in life. It did not matter if you were a Deputy Commissioner or a peon; you always waited your turn. And, there was no such thing as a " private consultation. " He would sit in his chair, surrounded by people. His Lal Kitab (Generally, the 1952 edition) would sit in front of him along with some spare papers; a rubber stamp which would imprint a blank horoscope, a superior quality large magnifying glass and a collection of Pt.Devi Dayal's almanacs (used for making horoscopes.) There were chairs all around the big green iron table and people would sit in these chairs surrounding him. He would take a quick look at the horoscope, ask some very particular questions – " When you come out of your house; with the main door being at your back, isn't there a Peepal tree across the street on your left and isn't there a Tandoor (clay oven) under it? " Totally floored, the visitor would say " Yes, of course sir. " " The lady who runs that " Tandoor " , her name should begin with the letters `B, Y or E' like Bimla or Yashodha and she is issue-less. " More amazed, the visitor could only say " Yes, yes Panditji. Bimla but how did you know? " " This is what the planetary configuration tells me. Are you here because you are not able to have a child? " " Yes Sir. " Panditji would make the visitor's Varshphal and then, he would always open the Lal Kitab and, would read aloud a couplet from it which would pertain to this person's planetary position, explain the meaning and prescribe an Upaya from it. In fact, he would encircle the malefic planet on the horoscope and explain how he reached that conclusion and write the appropriate upayas in beautifully calligraphed Urdu. Then he would provide the person with a few more hints and tell him to proceed on. Invariably, this person would thank him and would ask him if he could be of any service to Panditji. " Yes, " he would laugh and then would go on to say " Just don't send anyone else here; I can't handle this crowd anymore; tell them that Panditji has given up this hobby. Would you please? I know, you are not going to do that. Moreover, " He " has commanded me to perform this duty ... Okay next in line… " and this would continue till sunset. As long as people were sitting in his Baithak, he would not take a lunch break. " All these people have traveled such great distances, they have to get back, how can I think of lunch? " he would say. All of this would happen without any money being transacted; no fees were ever charged or accepted. Normally, Panditji would speak in Punjabi and at times he would switch to Urdu or English. You had better not speak to him in grammatically incorrect English; you could get a stern lecture on your ignorance of the rules of grammar. At times, people would come to him without horoscopes. For example, someone would come inquiring about a missing person whose time of birth was not known. They would bring a photograph of the person. One look at it and Panditji would say " This person's Saturn is in the eighth house; his sunken eyes tell me that. " Looking at the picture, he would also provide the direction, location and other details of this person's native house. He would even tell about the neighbors. " You have an old widow living right next door – just go and get her Aashirvaad (blessings) and everything will be fine. " He would suggest a remedial measure (to facilitate the return of the person.) There are numerous instances when people who had " ran away " from their homes 15 or 20 years earlier, would show up within days of their families performing the remedial measure. " Something made me come home, although I had no intention of returning, " these once-missing-just-returned people would say. Nobody was ever allowed to jump the queue; it did not matter who you were. The only people exempt from this were Armed Forces personnel; he had a very soft corner for them. Also exempt would be ladies in distress. Generally, Panditji would not entertain any lady who was not escorted by her male family members. He would also never permit anyone to touch his feet. That was absolutely prohibited. HIS SIDDHIS (God-given Powers) Panditji also attained some " siddhis " or supernatural powers to go along with his knowledge. It is said that he was perhaps one of the very few people in the entire world who got these " powers " without doing any jaap or taap or, penance. These came to him automatically. Panditji, on his own, would use his " Lal Kalam " (Red Pen) to give an aashirvaad (a blessing) in writing. Whatever he wrote with the Lal Kalam, would come true; it was infalliable. He would " issue orders " for promotions, transfers etc. through his red pen (filled with red ink) and as sure as the Sun comes up in the East, his " Lal Kalam orders " would be carried out. Another Siddhi that Panditji had attained was to give a special coin to a person for whom he would foresee an extremely dangerous life-threatening situation. He would provide him/her with a red shining copper coin and would ask this person to keep it on his person at all times. Many army personnel that came to see Panditji before China war (1962) were given these coins. He foresaw extreme danger for these people. All of those who had visited Panditji, survived what turned our to be deadly for their colleagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Another of a very very long article on this topic that was posted on the dyslexic internet with attention deficit disorder! What the internet needs is a quick and magical solution which is painless and makes the reality we chose to be born into one too! www.quickfix.com should have been the URL that thousands seek! Quite frankly and candidly, I have read a lot of promises from LAL KITAB over the last many many years but no cogent and well prepared documentation of successes! Please help!! , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > THE AUTHOR OF LAL KITAB > > Note : I m not the author of this article - Lalit Mishra. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Dear Rohiniranjan ji, Go to the following group, type 'feedback / feed back' in the search window and see for yourself how effective the Lal Kitab remedies have been. Do the same exercise in the best known astrology groups and you will know the difference. The link to the group : / With great regards, RP Singh , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Another of a very very long article on this topic that was posted on > the dyslexic internet with attention deficit disorder! > > What the internet needs is a quick and magical solution which is > painless and makes the reality we chose to be born into one too! > > www.quickfix.com > > should have been the URL that thousands seek! > > Quite frankly and candidly, I have read a lot of promises from LAL > KITAB over the last many many years but no cogent and well prepared > documentation of successes! > > Please help!! > > , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > > > THE AUTHOR OF LAL KITAB > > > > Note : I m not the author of this article - Lalit Mishra. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Thank you for yet another invitation! Perhaps some of the members from this forum will, and benefit from the kind sharing on your part! RR , " rpsingh2710 " <rpsingh2710 wrote: > > Dear Rohiniranjan ji, > > Go to the following group, type 'feedback / feed back' in the search > window and see for yourself how effective the Lal Kitab remedies have > been. Do the same exercise in the best known astrology groups and you > will know the difference. > > The link to the group : > > / > > > With great regards, > > RP Singh > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Another of a very very long article on this topic that was posted > on > > the dyslexic internet with attention deficit disorder! > > > > What the internet needs is a quick and magical solution which is > > painless and makes the reality we chose to be born into one too! > > > > www.quickfix.com > > > > should have been the URL that thousands seek! > > > > Quite frankly and candidly, I have read a lot of promises from LAL > > KITAB over the last many many years but no cogent and well prepared > > documentation of successes! > > > > Please help!! > > > > , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > THE AUTHOR OF LAL KITAB > > > > > > Note : I m not the author of this article - Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Resp. RR Ji, I have read ur articles on the net too and learnt a lot from them, earlier, i had a hesitation even in the reading the Lal Kitab as i was under impression that it's nothing but disotorted urdu version of BPHS. I was wrong, Lal Kitab has it's own base, I somehow, got it's philosphy also, that i w'd like to post tomorrow. in a nut shell, Lal Kitab is based on mapping birth horoscope with universal aries ascendant horoscope, it only considers transits, it has no concept of dasa system and order. regards, Lalit Mishra. , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Another of a very very long article on this topic that was posted on > the dyslexic internet with attention deficit disorder! > > What the internet needs is a quick and magical solution which is > painless and makes the reality we chose to be born into one too! > > www.quickfix.com > > should have been the URL that thousands seek! > > Quite frankly and candidly, I have read a lot of promises from LAL > KITAB over the last many many years but no cogent and well prepared > documentation of successes! > > Please help!! > > , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > > > THE AUTHOR OF LAL KITAB > > > > Note : I m not the author of this article - Lalit Mishra. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Thanks for writing to me back. I have not problems with taking the horoscope back to the KP chart (Kala Purusha!) It gives me satisfaction that the same magazine from Bangalore India published my kalapurusha article that 30+ some years ago convinced my father that I was not wasting my time! , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > Resp. RR Ji, > > I have read ur articles on the net too and learnt a lot from them, > earlier, i had a hesitation even in the reading the Lal Kitab as i > was under impression that it's nothing but disotorted urdu version > of BPHS. > > I was wrong, Lal Kitab has it's own base, I somehow, got it's > philosphy also, that i w'd like to post tomorrow. > > in a nut shell, Lal Kitab is based on mapping birth horoscope with > universal aries ascendant horoscope, it only considers transits, it > has no concept of dasa system and order. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Another of a very very long article on this topic that was posted > on > > the dyslexic internet with attention deficit disorder! > > > > What the internet needs is a quick and magical solution which is > > painless and makes the reality we chose to be born into one too! > > > > www.quickfix.com > > > > should have been the URL that thousands seek! > > > > Quite frankly and candidly, I have read a lot of promises from LAL > > KITAB over the last many many years but no cogent and well > prepared > > documentation of successes! > > > > Please help!! > > > > , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > THE AUTHOR OF LAL KITAB > > > > > > Note : I m not the author of this article - Lalit Mishra. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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