Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 dear prashantji thanks for your positive feedback. understanding scriptures and their subtle messages is not an easy job for a layman. members like amitabhji are all well aware of the positive meanings the puranas convey. however, unfortunately some members instead of disucssing the subject or the story or the source i.e. the purana, have started arguing on the individual making this reference, with whom i cannot engage in any further discussion. hence stopped further contribution on this thread here. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Amitabh, arjunji > > this is a good part explaing other parts exist too else out of context interpretations of a page or tow can be more damaging to the work itself > > and it will help if both of u explain in brief what the other parts have to say, cover > > those interested can read the works on their own if they find some material to read > > best wishes > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri wrote: I have not participated into this unusual discussion so far. There are very learned members on this forum and I have high regards for them. Motilal Banarsidas is also a well known publisher. > > However, wish to clarify that around twenty-four thousand shlokas of Shiv Purana are divided into six > samhitas or sections named Jnana Samhita, > Vidyeshvara Samhita, Kailash Samhita, Sanatkumar Samhita, Vayaviya Samhita and Dharma Samhita. Each Samhita is further subdivided into > chapters (adhyaya). Jnana Samhita has seventy-eight chapters, > Vidyeshvara Samhita sixteen, Kailash Samhita twelve, Sanathkumar > Samhita fifty-nine, Vayaviya Samhita thirty and Dharma Samhita > sixty-five. > > Best wishes, > Amitabh > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > following is taken from the 29th chapter titled " women's nature " > > > from > > > > uma samhita in shivapurana. this particular story is available > > in > > > > volume 3 of the english shivapurana pages 1551 to 1554 published > > > by > > > > motilalbanarsidas. > > > > > > > > ============ quote==== ======== > > > > vyasa says: o sage sanatkumara, please narrate succinctly what > > was > > > > mentioned by pancachuda that women are despicable. > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: i shall explain the nature of women as it is, > > > listen > > > > to it, merely hearing which results in detachment. women are > > > > lightminded. they are at the root of all troubles. attachment > > > towards > > > > them shall not be pursued by wakeful persons who desire > > > liberation. in > > > > this respect they quote an ancient tradition, the conversation of > > > > narada with the unchaste woman pancacuda (an apsara). formerly > > > while > > > > the intelligent celestial sage narada was wandering in the worlds > > > he > > > > saw the beautiful celestial damsel pancacuda. naradas askes her > > > to > > > > narrate the nature of women for the benefit of the world. > > > > > > > > pancacuda (the woman apsara) says: > > > > > > > > this is the defect in women. even women of noble families, women > > > with > > > > husbands and women endowed with beauty do not stand within the > > > limits > > > > of decency. > > > > there is none more sinning and more sinful than women. > > > > women are at the root of all sins. > > > > they might have husbands of good knoweldge, of ample wealth, of > > > great > > > > comeliness and pleasing to them. but when they get opportunities > > > for > > > > erring, they do not wait. > > > > this is the evil practice of all of us women, that we resort to > > > sinful > > > > men casting off all shame and shyness. > > > > women love only those persons who solicit their company, who > > > approach > > > > them intimately and who render them a little bit of service. > > > > women usually do not observe the limitations of conventional > > > decency. > > > > if at all they stand by them with their husbands, it is because > > no > > > man > > > > makes advances to them or because they are afraid of their > > > husbands. > > > > even women of noble families aspire for the life of lascivious > > > women > > > > who in their prime of youth adorned with lovable ornaments and > > > > beautiful wearing garments move about frivolously. > > > > even the women who are honoured well, loved intimately and looked > > > after > > > > with care become attached to hunchbacks, blind men, imbeciles and > > > > dwarfs. > > > > they become attached to lame and even despicable persons. > > > > there is none in the world who cannot be approached by women with > > > > solicitations of lust. > > > > if women do not get men of their dalliance they begin to indulge > > > in > > > > abnormal sexual activity with one another. they do not stnad by > > > their > > > > husbands. > > > > women become desperate when they do not get men, when they are > > > afraid > > > > of servants, when they are frightened of being killed or > > > imprisoned. > > > > because they indulge in sexual intercourse as they please they > > are > > > > fickleminded, of evil deeds and emotionally incomprehensible even > > > to an > > > > intelligent man. > > > > fire is not satiated with the logs of wood it consumes, the ocean > > > is > > > > not satiated with the rivers that flow into it. the god of death > > > is > > > > not satiated with the living beings he kills and women are not > > > satiated > > > > with the number of men they cohabit with. > > > > there is another secret of all women that immediately on seeing a > > > man > > > > their vaginal passage begins to exude slimy secretions. > > > > on seeing a man fresh and clean from his bath with his body > > > perfumed > > > > with sweet scents, the vaginal passage of women begins to exude > > > like > > > > water dripping from a leather bag. > > > > women do not brook their husbands who may give all that they > > love, > > > who > > > > may honour and console them and who may look after them well. > > > > women do not remain satisfied and contented so much with simple > > > loves > > > > and pleasures and with ornaments and money as with illicit love > > > purused > > > > by them with other men. > > > > women can be kept equally balanced against all these put together > > > viz. > > > > god of death, yama, antaka, patala, the submarine fire, the sharp > > > edge > > > > of razor, poison, serpent and fire. > > > > ever since the five elements, the world, the men and women were > > > created > > > > by brahma, the defect lies in women always. > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: o vyasa, thus the nature of women as mentioned > > > by a > > > > woman pancacuda has been narrated to you. what other cause of > > > > detachment do you wish to hear. > > > > ============ =unquote= ======== > > > > > > > > the above story also appears in mahabharata where bhishma > > narrates > > > this > > > > for the reason of detachment from women. sage narada narrating > > > this > > > > story as a cause of detachment is also found in other puranas. > > > many > > > > sages and saints narrate this story to their disciples who are > > > > interested in liberation and detachment from women. > > > > > > > > members may remember a couple of mails earlier by me where > > > pativratas > > > > brinda and tulasi gave curses to lord vishnu which highlight that > > > a > > > > pativrata is so rare and so powerful that even gods are afraid of > > > a > > > > pativrata. > > > > > > > > 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