Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 It has been man's nature to try and but blame for their weaknesses on other person and thats exactly what the quote of women's nature implies. Tell me a man who has not sinned. Blaming a women( or anyone as a mateer of fact) behind his actions is just pure cowardly act. Be a man... is what i say.. don't blame the fair sex for ur shortcomings... they are ur weaknesses ..admitting it is not shameful.. but hiding it is. Our vedas say that we have 4 ashrams and to attain moksha we must do our duty and follow those ashrams and my friend Grihastha ashram is one of them... if vedas were to preach detachment from women... then tell me why would they profess Grihastha ashram... i am no learned saint.. but i do remember the poem I read as a kid.. where vishnuji.. looks around to find his true devotee.. and chooses a farmer instead or narad muni whose sole purpose in life was to jap'narayan narayan'. and you know why he did so.... He said that one who remembers me while doing all his daily chores and facing each situation and difficulty i put in his path is more dear to me and a true bhakt.. So my friend if you demote the creatures of god.. and consider ur self supreme.. then there is no way u can attain moksha.. Just my thoughts.. I am only a humble human being.. don't want to or can not change the way u think but can only show u what is right in my point of view. God Bless PM , raneetha soodeyal <raneethas wrote: > > Namaste > > Please, Please me from Jyotish_Remeries with immediate effect. Its really depressing > > Thanks > Raneetha > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > Bejan Daruwala is very well known. So is Linda > Goodman.So is Bin laden. So is Dawood Ibrahim. > So is george Bush. So is Musharraf. > So are, so many. Being Well known would not > be the criteria for being good always in > any particular field. > > Motilal Banarsidas is very money minded. They do > not even mention their prices on the books they sell. > They keep on upgrading the prices on the weight of > demand of any particular title, is my > experience. This is known to me because I have many > of their books on spirituality. > A Publisher who is money minded would also search > for authors who are cheap. They would compromise , > to make their production costs low. > > Now your mail has not given the actual purport > of the particular context which we require, > where the bad nature of women has been given, > so as to assess the full meaningful presentation > where this distatsteful issue has been cited. > > I am sure those who have the Gita press " Shiv > Puarana " would be able to give a better view, > in a more positive vein, rather than > what has been displayed to us. > > rgrds/Bhaskar. , Amitabh Shastri > wrote: > > > > I have not participated into this unusual discussion so far. There > are very learned members on this forum and I have high regards for > them. Motilal Banarsidas is also a well known publisher. > > > > However, wish to clarify that around twenty-four thousand shlokas > of Shiv Purana are divided into six > > samhitas or sections named Jnana Samhita, > > Vidyeshvara Samhita, Kailash Samhita, Sanatkumar Samhita, Vayaviya > Samhita and Dharma Samhita. Each Samhita is further subdivided into > > chapters (adhyaya). Jnana Samhita has seventy-eight chapters, > > Vidyeshvara Samhita sixteen, Kailash Samhita twelve, Sanathkumar > > Samhita fifty-nine, Vayaviya Samhita thirty and Dharma Samhita > > sixty-five. > > > > Best wishes, > > Amitabh > > > > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > following is taken from the 29th chapter titled " women's > nature " > > > > > from > > > > > > uma samhita in shivapurana. this particular story is > available > > > > in > > > > > > volume 3 of the english shivapurana pages 1551 to 1554 > published > > > > > by > > > > > > motilalbanarsidas. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ quote==== ======== > > > > > > vyasa says: o sage sanatkumara, please narrate succinctly what > > > > was > > > > > > mentioned by pancachuda that women are despicable. > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: i shall explain the nature of women as it > is, > > > > > listen > > > > > > to it, merely hearing which results in detachment. women are > > > > > > lightminded. they are at the root of all troubles. > attachment > > > > > towards > > > > > > them shall not be pursued by wakeful persons who desire > > > > > liberation. in > > > > > > this respect they quote an ancient tradition, the conversation > of > > > > > > narada with the unchaste woman pancacuda (an apsara). > formerly > > > > > while > > > > > > the intelligent celestial sage narada was wandering in the > worlds > > > > > he > > > > > > saw the beautiful celestial damsel pancacuda. naradas askes > her > > > > > to > > > > > > narrate the nature of women for the benefit of the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > pancacuda (the woman apsara) says: > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the defect in women. even women of noble families, > women > > > > > with > > > > > > husbands and women endowed with beauty do not stand within the > > > > > limits > > > > > > of decency. > > > > > > there is none more sinning and more sinful than women. > > > > > > women are at the root of all sins. > > > > > > they might have husbands of good knoweldge, of ample wealth, > of > > > > > great > > > > > > comeliness and pleasing to them. but when they get > opportunities > > > > > for > > > > > > erring, they do not wait. > > > > > > this is the evil practice of all of us women, that we resort > to > > > > > sinful > > > > > > men casting off all shame and shyness. > > > > > > women love only those persons who solicit their company, who > > > > > approach > > > > > > them intimately and who render them a little bit of service. > > > > > > women usually do not observe the limitations of conventional > > > > > decency. > > > > > > if at all they stand by them with their husbands, it is > because > > > > no > > > > > man > > > > > > makes advances to them or because they are afraid of their > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > even women of noble families aspire for the life of lascivious > > > > > women > > > > > > who in their prime of youth adorned with lovable ornaments and > > > > > > beautiful wearing garments move about frivolously. > > > > > > even the women who are honoured well, loved intimately and > looked > > > > > after > > > > > > with care become attached to hunchbacks, blind men, imbeciles > and > > > > > > dwarfs. > > > > > > they become attached to lame and even despicable persons. > > > > > > there is none in the world who cannot be approached by women > with > > > > > > solicitations of lust. > > > > > > if women do not get men of their dalliance they begin to > indulge > > > > > in > > > > > > abnormal sexual activity with one another. they do not stnad > by > > > > > their > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > women become desperate when they do not get men, when they are > > > > > afraid > > > > > > of servants, when they are frightened of being killed or > > > > > imprisoned. > > > > > > because they indulge in sexual intercourse as they please they > > > > are > > > > > > fickleminded, of evil deeds and emotionally incomprehensible > even > > > > > to an > > > > > > intelligent man. > > > > > > fire is not satiated with the logs of wood it consumes, the > ocean > > > > > is > > > > > > not satiated with the rivers that flow into it. the god of > death > > > > > is > > > > > > not satiated with the living beings he kills and women are not > > > > > satiated > > > > > > with the number of men they cohabit with. > > > > > > there is another secret of all women that immediately on > seeing a > > > > > man > > > > > > their vaginal passage begins to exude slimy secretions. > > > > > > on seeing a man fresh and clean from his bath with his body > > > > > perfumed > > > > > > with sweet scents, the vaginal passage of women begins to > exude > > > > > like > > > > > > water dripping from a leather bag. > > > > > > women do not brook their husbands who may give all that they > > > > love, > > > > > who > > > > > > may honour and console them and who may look after them well. > > > > > > women do not remain satisfied and contented so much with > simple > > > > > loves > > > > > > and pleasures and with ornaments and money as with illicit > love > > > > > purused > > > > > > by them with other men. > > > > > > women can be kept equally balanced against all these put > together > > > > > viz. > > > > > > god of death, yama, antaka, patala, the submarine fire, the > sharp > > > > > edge > > > > > > of razor, poison, serpent and fire. > > > > > > ever since the five elements, the world, the men and women > were > > > > > created > > > > > > by brahma, the defect lies in women always. > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: o vyasa, thus the nature of women as > mentioned > > > > > by a > > > > > > woman pancacuda has been narrated to you. what other cause of > > > > > > detachment do you wish to hear. > > > > > > ============ =unquote= ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > the above story also appears in mahabharata where bhishma > > > > narrates > > > > > this > > > > > > for the reason of detachment from women. sage narada > narrating > > > > > this > > > > > > story as a cause of detachment is also found in other > puranas. > > > > > many > > > > > > sages and saints narrate this story to their disciples who are > > > > > > interested in liberation and detachment from women. > > > > > > > > > > > > members may remember a couple of mails earlier by me where > > > > > pativratas > > > > > > brinda and tulasi gave curses to lord vishnu which highlight > that > > > > > a > > > > > > pativrata is so rare and so powerful that even gods are afraid > of > > > > > a > > > > > > pativrata. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mkp{ > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px > 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > > 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 A good and practical post. rgrds/Bhaskar. , " prtmk " <preetimukhi wrote: > > It has been man's nature to try and but blame for their weaknesses on > other person and thats exactly what the quote of women's nature > implies. > Tell me a man who has not sinned. > Blaming a women( or anyone as a mateer of fact) behind his actions is > just pure cowardly act. > > Be a man... is what i say.. don't blame the fair sex for ur > shortcomings... they are ur weaknesses ..admitting it is not > shameful.. but hiding it is. > > Our vedas say that we have 4 ashrams and to attain moksha we must do > our duty and follow those ashrams and my friend Grihastha ashram is > one of them... > if vedas were to preach detachment from women... then tell me why > would they profess Grihastha ashram... i am no learned saint.. but i > do remember the poem I read as a kid.. where vishnuji.. looks around > to find his true devotee.. and chooses a farmer instead or narad muni > whose sole purpose in life was to jap'narayan narayan'. and you know > why he did so.... He said that one who remembers me while doing all > his daily chores and facing each situation and difficulty i put in > his path is more dear to me and a true bhakt.. > > So my friend if you demote the creatures of god.. and consider ur > self supreme.. then there is no way u can attain moksha.. > > Just my thoughts.. I am only a humble human being.. don't want to or > can not change the way u think but can only show u what is right in > my point of view. > > God Bless > PM > > > , raneetha soodeyal > <raneethas@> wrote: > > > > Namaste > > > > Please, Please me from Jyotish_Remeries@ with > immediate effect. Its really depressing > > > > Thanks > > Raneetha > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > Bejan Daruwala is very well known. So is Linda > > Goodman.So is Bin laden. So is Dawood Ibrahim. > > So is george Bush. So is Musharraf. > > So are, so many. Being Well known would not > > be the criteria for being good always in > > any particular field. > > > > Motilal Banarsidas is very money minded. They do > > not even mention their prices on the books they sell. > > They keep on upgrading the prices on the weight of > > demand of any particular title, is my > > experience. This is known to me because I have many > > of their books on spirituality. > > A Publisher who is money minded would also search > > for authors who are cheap. They would compromise , > > to make their production costs low. > > > > Now your mail has not given the actual purport > > of the particular context which we require, > > where the bad nature of women has been given, > > so as to assess the full meaningful presentation > > where this distatsteful issue has been cited. > > > > I am sure those who have the Gita press " Shiv > > Puarana " would be able to give a better view, > > in a more positive vein, rather than > > what has been displayed to us. > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Amitabh Shastri > > wrote: > > > > > > I have not participated into this unusual discussion so far. > There > > are very learned members on this forum and I have high regards for > > them. Motilal Banarsidas is also a well known publisher. > > > > > > However, wish to clarify that around twenty-four thousand shlokas > > of Shiv Purana are divided into six > > > samhitas or sections named Jnana Samhita, > > > Vidyeshvara Samhita, Kailash Samhita, Sanatkumar Samhita, > Vayaviya > > Samhita and Dharma Samhita. Each Samhita is further subdivided into > > > chapters (adhyaya). Jnana Samhita has seventy-eight chapters, > > > Vidyeshvara Samhita sixteen, Kailash Samhita twelve, Sanathkumar > > > Samhita fifty-nine, Vayaviya Samhita thirty and Dharma Samhita > > > sixty-five. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Amitabh > > > > > > > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following is taken from the 29th chapter titled " women's > > nature " > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > uma samhita in shivapurana. this particular story is > > available > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > volume 3 of the english shivapurana pages 1551 to 1554 > > published > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > motilalbanarsidas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ quote==== ======== > > > > > > > > vyasa says: o sage sanatkumara, please narrate succinctly > what > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > mentioned by pancachuda that women are despicable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: i shall explain the nature of women as it > > is, > > > > > > > listen > > > > > > > > to it, merely hearing which results in detachment. women are > > > > > > > > lightminded. they are at the root of all troubles. > > attachment > > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > > them shall not be pursued by wakeful persons who desire > > > > > > > liberation. in > > > > > > > > this respect they quote an ancient tradition, the > conversation > > of > > > > > > > > narada with the unchaste woman pancacuda (an apsara). > > formerly > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > the intelligent celestial sage narada was wandering in the > > worlds > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > saw the beautiful celestial damsel pancacuda. naradas askes > > her > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > narrate the nature of women for the benefit of the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pancacuda (the woman apsara) says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the defect in women. even women of noble families, > > women > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > husbands and women endowed with beauty do not stand within > the > > > > > > > limits > > > > > > > > of decency. > > > > > > > > there is none more sinning and more sinful than women. > > > > > > > > women are at the root of all sins. > > > > > > > > they might have husbands of good knoweldge, of ample wealth, > > of > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > comeliness and pleasing to them. but when they get > > opportunities > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > erring, they do not wait. > > > > > > > > this is the evil practice of all of us women, that we resort > > to > > > > > > > sinful > > > > > > > > men casting off all shame and shyness. > > > > > > > > women love only those persons who solicit their company, who > > > > > > > approach > > > > > > > > them intimately and who render them a little bit of service. > > > > > > > > women usually do not observe the limitations of conventional > > > > > > > decency. > > > > > > > > if at all they stand by them with their husbands, it is > > because > > > > > > no > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > makes advances to them or because they are afraid of their > > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > > > even women of noble families aspire for the life of > lascivious > > > > > > > women > > > > > > > > who in their prime of youth adorned with lovable ornaments > and > > > > > > > > beautiful wearing garments move about frivolously. > > > > > > > > even the women who are honoured well, loved intimately and > > looked > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > with care become attached to hunchbacks, blind men, imbeciles > > and > > > > > > > > dwarfs. > > > > > > > > they become attached to lame and even despicable persons. > > > > > > > > there is none in the world who cannot be approached by women > > with > > > > > > > > solicitations of lust. > > > > > > > > if women do not get men of their dalliance they begin to > > indulge > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > abnormal sexual activity with one another. they do not stnad > > by > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > > > women become desperate when they do not get men, when they > are > > > > > > > afraid > > > > > > > > of servants, when they are frightened of being killed or > > > > > > > imprisoned. > > > > > > > > because they indulge in sexual intercourse as they please > they > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > fickleminded, of evil deeds and emotionally incomprehensible > > even > > > > > > > to an > > > > > > > > intelligent man. > > > > > > > > fire is not satiated with the logs of wood it consumes, the > > ocean > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not satiated with the rivers that flow into it. the god of > > death > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not satiated with the living beings he kills and women are > not > > > > > > > satiated > > > > > > > > with the number of men they cohabit with. > > > > > > > > there is another secret of all women that immediately on > > seeing a > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > their vaginal passage begins to exude slimy secretions. > > > > > > > > on seeing a man fresh and clean from his bath with his body > > > > > > > perfumed > > > > > > > > with sweet scents, the vaginal passage of women begins to > > exude > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > water dripping from a leather bag. > > > > > > > > women do not brook their husbands who may give all that they > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > may honour and console them and who may look after them well. > > > > > > > > women do not remain satisfied and contented so much with > > simple > > > > > > > loves > > > > > > > > and pleasures and with ornaments and money as with illicit > > love > > > > > > > purused > > > > > > > > by them with other men. > > > > > > > > women can be kept equally balanced against all these put > > together > > > > > > > viz. > > > > > > > > god of death, yama, antaka, patala, the submarine fire, the > > sharp > > > > > > > edge > > > > > > > > of razor, poison, serpent and fire. > > > > > > > > ever since the five elements, the world, the men and women > > were > > > > > > > created > > > > > > > > by brahma, the defect lies in women always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: o vyasa, thus the nature of women as > > mentioned > > > > > > > by a > > > > > > > > woman pancacuda has been narrated to you. what other cause of > > > > > > > > detachment do you wish to hear. > > > > > > > > ============ =unquote= ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the above story also appears in mahabharata where bhishma > > > > > > narrates > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > for the reason of detachment from women. sage narada > > narrating > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > story as a cause of detachment is also found in other > > puranas. > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > sages and saints narrate this story to their disciples who > are > > > > > > > > interested in liberation and detachment from women. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members may remember a couple of mails earlier by me where > > > > > > > pativratas > > > > > > > > brinda and tulasi gave curses to lord vishnu which highlight > > that > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > pativrata is so rare and so powerful that even gods are > afraid > > of > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > pativrata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ygrp-mkp{ > > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px > > 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > > > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > > > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > > > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- > > height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > > > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > > > margin-bottom:10px;} > > > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > > > padding:0 0;} > > > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > > > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > > > --> > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Yes Bhaskar, Many astrologers now-a-days is trying to grab attention, and steal your customers, because you are not minding the store. Unfortunately the tactics of such astrologers backfired on them, and now 50% of the population is pissed off. You won this round. , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > A good and practical post. > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " prtmk " <preetimukhi@> > wrote: > > > > It has been man's nature to try and but blame for their weaknesses > on > > other person and thats exactly what the quote of women's nature > > implies. > > Tell me a man who has not sinned. > > Blaming a women( or anyone as a mateer of fact) behind his actions > is > > just pure cowardly act. > > > > Be a man... is what i say.. don't blame the fair sex for ur > > shortcomings... they are ur weaknesses ..admitting it is not > > shameful.. but hiding it is. > > > > Our vedas say that we have 4 ashrams and to attain moksha we must > do > > our duty and follow those ashrams and my friend Grihastha ashram > is > > one of them... > > if vedas were to preach detachment from women... then tell me why > > would they profess Grihastha ashram... i am no learned saint.. but > i > > do remember the poem I read as a kid.. where vishnuji.. looks > around > > to find his true devotee.. and chooses a farmer instead or narad > muni > > whose sole purpose in life was to jap'narayan narayan'. and you > know > > why he did so.... He said that one who remembers me while doing > all > > his daily chores and facing each situation and difficulty i put in > > his path is more dear to me and a true bhakt.. > > > > So my friend if you demote the creatures of god.. and consider ur > > self supreme.. then there is no way u can attain moksha.. > > > > Just my thoughts.. I am only a humble human being.. don't want to > or > > can not change the way u think but can only show u what is right > in > > my point of view. > > > > God Bless > > PM > > > > > > , raneetha soodeyal > > <raneethas@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > Please, Please me from Jyotish_Remeries@ with > > immediate effect. Its really depressing > > > > > > Thanks > > > Raneetha > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > Bejan Daruwala is very well known. So is Linda > > > Goodman.So is Bin laden. So is Dawood Ibrahim. > > > So is george Bush. So is Musharraf. > > > So are, so many. Being Well known would not > > > be the criteria for being good always in > > > any particular field. > > > > > > Motilal Banarsidas is very money minded. They do > > > not even mention their prices on the books they sell. > > > They keep on upgrading the prices on the weight of > > > demand of any particular title, is my > > > experience. This is known to me because I have many > > > of their books on spirituality. > > > A Publisher who is money minded would also search > > > for authors who are cheap. They would compromise , > > > to make their production costs low. > > > > > > Now your mail has not given the actual purport > > > of the particular context which we require, > > > where the bad nature of women has been given, > > > so as to assess the full meaningful presentation > > > where this distatsteful issue has been cited. > > > > > > I am sure those who have the Gita press " Shiv > > > Puarana " would be able to give a better view, > > > in a more positive vein, rather than > > > what has been displayed to us. > > > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Amitabh Shastri > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have not participated into this unusual discussion so far. > > There > > > are very learned members on this forum and I have high regards > for > > > them. Motilal Banarsidas is also a well known publisher. > > > > > > > > However, wish to clarify that around twenty-four thousand > shlokas > > > of Shiv Purana are divided into six > > > > samhitas or sections named Jnana Samhita, > > > > Vidyeshvara Samhita, Kailash Samhita, Sanatkumar Samhita, > > Vayaviya > > > Samhita and Dharma Samhita. Each Samhita is further subdivided > into > > > > chapters (adhyaya). Jnana Samhita has seventy-eight chapters, > > > > Vidyeshvara Samhita sixteen, Kailash Samhita twelve, > Sanathkumar > > > > Samhita fifty-nine, Vayaviya Samhita thirty and Dharma Samhita > > > > sixty-five. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Amitabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ . com, " panditarjun2004 " > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following is taken from the 29th chapter titled " women's > > > nature " > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > uma samhita in shivapurana. this particular story is > > > available > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > volume 3 of the english shivapurana pages 1551 to 1554 > > > published > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > motilalbanarsidas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ quote==== ======== > > > > > > > > > > vyasa says: o sage sanatkumara, please narrate succinctly > > what > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > mentioned by pancachuda that women are despicable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: i shall explain the nature of women as > it > > > is, > > > > > > > > > listen > > > > > > > > > > to it, merely hearing which results in detachment. women > are > > > > > > > > > > lightminded. they are at the root of all troubles. > > > attachment > > > > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > > > > them shall not be pursued by wakeful persons who desire > > > > > > > > > liberation. in > > > > > > > > > > this respect they quote an ancient tradition, the > > conversation > > > of > > > > > > > > > > narada with the unchaste woman pancacuda (an apsara). > > > formerly > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > the intelligent celestial sage narada was wandering in the > > > worlds > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > saw the beautiful celestial damsel pancacuda. naradas > askes > > > her > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > narrate the nature of women for the benefit of the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pancacuda (the woman apsara) says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the defect in women. even women of noble families, > > > women > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > husbands and women endowed with beauty do not stand within > > the > > > > > > > > > limits > > > > > > > > > > of decency. > > > > > > > > > > there is none more sinning and more sinful than women. > > > > > > > > > > women are at the root of all sins. > > > > > > > > > > they might have husbands of good knoweldge, of ample > wealth, > > > of > > > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > > comeliness and pleasing to them. but when they get > > > opportunities > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > erring, they do not wait. > > > > > > > > > > this is the evil practice of all of us women, that we > resort > > > to > > > > > > > > > sinful > > > > > > > > > > men casting off all shame and shyness. > > > > > > > > > > women love only those persons who solicit their company, > who > > > > > > > > > approach > > > > > > > > > > them intimately and who render them a little bit of > service. > > > > > > > > > > women usually do not observe the limitations of > conventional > > > > > > > > > decency. > > > > > > > > > > if at all they stand by them with their husbands, it is > > > because > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > makes advances to them or because they are afraid of their > > > > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > > > > > even women of noble families aspire for the life of > > lascivious > > > > > > > > > women > > > > > > > > > > who in their prime of youth adorned with lovable ornaments > > and > > > > > > > > > > beautiful wearing garments move about frivolously. > > > > > > > > > > even the women who are honoured well, loved intimately and > > > looked > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > with care become attached to hunchbacks, blind men, > imbeciles > > > and > > > > > > > > > > dwarfs. > > > > > > > > > > they become attached to lame and even despicable persons. > > > > > > > > > > there is none in the world who cannot be approached by > women > > > with > > > > > > > > > > solicitations of lust. > > > > > > > > > > if women do not get men of their dalliance they begin to > > > indulge > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > abnormal sexual activity with one another. they do not > stnad > > > by > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > > > > > women become desperate when they do not get men, when they > > are > > > > > > > > > afraid > > > > > > > > > > of servants, when they are frightened of being killed or > > > > > > > > > imprisoned. > > > > > > > > > > because they indulge in sexual intercourse as they please > > they > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > fickleminded, of evil deeds and emotionally > incomprehensible > > > even > > > > > > > > > to an > > > > > > > > > > intelligent man. > > > > > > > > > > fire is not satiated with the logs of wood it consumes, > the > > > ocean > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > not satiated with the rivers that flow into it. the god of > > > death > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > not satiated with the living beings he kills and women are > > not > > > > > > > > > satiated > > > > > > > > > > with the number of men they cohabit with. > > > > > > > > > > there is another secret of all women that immediately on > > > seeing a > > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > their vaginal passage begins to exude slimy secretions. > > > > > > > > > > on seeing a man fresh and clean from his bath with his > body > > > > > > > > > perfumed > > > > > > > > > > with sweet scents, the vaginal passage of women begins to > > > exude > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > water dripping from a leather bag. > > > > > > > > > > women do not brook their husbands who may give all that > they > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > may honour and console them and who may look after them > well. > > > > > > > > > > women do not remain satisfied and contented so much with > > > simple > > > > > > > > > loves > > > > > > > > > > and pleasures and with ornaments and money as with illicit > > > love > > > > > > > > > purused > > > > > > > > > > by them with other men. > > > > > > > > > > women can be kept equally balanced against all these put > > > together > > > > > > > > > viz. > > > > > > > > > > god of death, yama, antaka, patala, the submarine fire, > the > > > sharp > > > > > > > > > edge > > > > > > > > > > of razor, poison, serpent and fire. > > > > > > > > > > ever since the five elements, the world, the men and women > > > were > > > > > > > > > created > > > > > > > > > > by brahma, the defect lies in women always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: o vyasa, thus the nature of women as > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > by a > > > > > > > > > > woman pancacuda has been narrated to you. what other cause > of > > > > > > > > > > detachment do you wish to hear. > > > > > > > > > > ============ =unquote= ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the above story also appears in mahabharata where bhishma > > > > > > > > narrates > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > for the reason of detachment from women. sage narada > > > narrating > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > story as a cause of detachment is also found in other > > > puranas. > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > sages and saints narrate this story to their disciples who > > are > > > > > > > > > > interested in liberation and detachment from women. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members may remember a couple of mails earlier by me where > > > > > > > > > pativratas > > > > > > > > > > brinda and tulasi gave curses to lord vishnu which > highlight > > > that > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > pativrata is so rare and so powerful that even gods are > > afraid > > > of > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Bhai Grant U, The whole world is a ocean of Customers. If one has quality goods to sell at good price, then one can get a better piece from the cake. You can always be a winner too, in all games,whether personal or professional. Just keep Dharma at your side, and a intention of giving and sharing,to others, whatever you possess in good amounts, money, clothes, knowledge, Love, compassion or whatever, and you will be a winner. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " grantu_4wishes " <grantu_4wishes wrote: > > Yes Bhaskar, > Many astrologers now-a-days is trying to grab attention, and steal > your customers, because you are not minding the store. > Unfortunately the tactics of such astrologers backfired on them, and > now 50% of the population is pissed off. > You won this round. > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > A good and practical post. > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " prtmk " <preetimukhi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It has been man's nature to try and but blame for their > weaknesses > > on > > > other person and thats exactly what the quote of women's nature > > > implies. > > > Tell me a man who has not sinned. > > > Blaming a women( or anyone as a mateer of fact) behind his > actions > > is > > > just pure cowardly act. > > > > > > Be a man... is what i say.. don't blame the fair sex for ur > > > shortcomings... they are ur weaknesses ..admitting it is not > > > shameful.. but hiding it is. > > > > > > Our vedas say that we have 4 ashrams and to attain moksha we must > > do > > > our duty and follow those ashrams and my friend Grihastha ashram > > is > > > one of them... > > > if vedas were to preach detachment from women... then tell me why > > > would they profess Grihastha ashram... i am no learned saint.. > but > > i > > > do remember the poem I read as a kid.. where vishnuji.. looks > > around > > > to find his true devotee.. and chooses a farmer instead or narad > > muni > > > whose sole purpose in life was to jap'narayan narayan'. and you > > know > > > why he did so.... He said that one who remembers me while doing > > all > > > his daily chores and facing each situation and difficulty i put > in > > > his path is more dear to me and a true bhakt.. > > > > > > So my friend if you demote the creatures of god.. and consider ur > > > self supreme.. then there is no way u can attain moksha.. > > > > > > Just my thoughts.. I am only a humble human being.. don't want > to > > or > > > can not change the way u think but can only show u what is right > > in > > > my point of view. > > > > > > God Bless > > > PM > > > > > > > > > , raneetha soodeyal > > > <raneethas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > Please, Please me from Jyotish_Remeries@ with > > > immediate effect. Its really depressing > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Raneetha > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Bejan Daruwala is very well known. So is Linda > > > > Goodman.So is Bin laden. So is Dawood Ibrahim. > > > > So is george Bush. So is Musharraf. > > > > So are, so many. Being Well known would not > > > > be the criteria for being good always in > > > > any particular field. > > > > > > > > Motilal Banarsidas is very money minded. They do > > > > not even mention their prices on the books they sell. > > > > They keep on upgrading the prices on the weight of > > > > demand of any particular title, is my > > > > experience. This is known to me because I have many > > > > of their books on spirituality. > > > > A Publisher who is money minded would also search > > > > for authors who are cheap. They would compromise , > > > > to make their production costs low. > > > > > > > > Now your mail has not given the actual purport > > > > of the particular context which we require, > > > > where the bad nature of women has been given, > > > > so as to assess the full meaningful presentation > > > > where this distatsteful issue has been cited. > > > > > > > > I am sure those who have the Gita press " Shiv > > > > Puarana " would be able to give a better view, > > > > in a more positive vein, rather than > > > > what has been displayed to us. > > > > > > > > rgrds/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Amitabh Shastri > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have not participated into this unusual discussion so far. > > > There > > > > are very learned members on this forum and I have high regards > > for > > > > them. Motilal Banarsidas is also a well known publisher. > > > > > > > > > > However, wish to clarify that around twenty-four thousand > > shlokas > > > > of Shiv Purana are divided into six > > > > > samhitas or sections named Jnana Samhita, > > > > > Vidyeshvara Samhita, Kailash Samhita, Sanatkumar Samhita, > > > Vayaviya > > > > Samhita and Dharma Samhita. Each Samhita is further subdivided > > into > > > > > chapters (adhyaya). Jnana Samhita has seventy-eight chapters, > > > > > Vidyeshvara Samhita sixteen, Kailash Samhita twelve, > > Sanathkumar > > > > > Samhita fifty-nine, Vayaviya Samhita thirty and Dharma Samhita > > > > > sixty-five. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Amitabh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ . > com, " panditarjun2004 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following is taken from the 29th chapter titled " women's > > > > nature " > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > uma samhita in shivapurana. this particular story is > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > volume 3 of the english shivapurana pages 1551 to 1554 > > > > published > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > motilalbanarsidas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ quote==== ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > vyasa says: o sage sanatkumara, please narrate succinctly > > > what > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned by pancachuda that women are despicable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: i shall explain the nature of women as > > it > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > > > listen > > > > > > > > > > > > to it, merely hearing which results in detachment. women > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > lightminded. they are at the root of all troubles. > > > > attachment > > > > > > > > > > > towards > > > > > > > > > > > > them shall not be pursued by wakeful persons who desire > > > > > > > > > > > liberation. in > > > > > > > > > > > > this respect they quote an ancient tradition, the > > > conversation > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > narada with the unchaste woman pancacuda (an apsara). > > > > formerly > > > > > > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > > the intelligent celestial sage narada was wandering in > the > > > > worlds > > > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > saw the beautiful celestial damsel pancacuda. naradas > > askes > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > narrate the nature of women for the benefit of the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pancacuda (the woman apsara) says: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the defect in women. even women of noble > families, > > > > women > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > husbands and women endowed with beauty do not stand > within > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > limits > > > > > > > > > > > > of decency. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is none more sinning and more sinful than women. > > > > > > > > > > > > women are at the root of all sins. > > > > > > > > > > > > they might have husbands of good knoweldge, of ample > > wealth, > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > > > > comeliness and pleasing to them. but when they get > > > > opportunities > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > erring, they do not wait. > > > > > > > > > > > > this is the evil practice of all of us women, that we > > resort > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > sinful > > > > > > > > > > > > men casting off all shame and shyness. > > > > > > > > > > > > women love only those persons who solicit their company, > > who > > > > > > > > > > > approach > > > > > > > > > > > > them intimately and who render them a little bit of > > service. > > > > > > > > > > > > women usually do not observe the limitations of > > conventional > > > > > > > > > > > decency. > > > > > > > > > > > > if at all they stand by them with their husbands, it is > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > > > makes advances to them or because they are afraid of > their > > > > > > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > > > > > > > even women of noble families aspire for the life of > > > lascivious > > > > > > > > > > > women > > > > > > > > > > > > who in their prime of youth adorned with lovable > ornaments > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > beautiful wearing garments move about frivolously. > > > > > > > > > > > > even the women who are honoured well, loved intimately > and > > > > looked > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > with care become attached to hunchbacks, blind men, > > imbeciles > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > dwarfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > they become attached to lame and even despicable persons. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is none in the world who cannot be approached by > > women > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > solicitations of lust. > > > > > > > > > > > > if women do not get men of their dalliance they begin to > > > > indulge > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > abnormal sexual activity with one another. they do not > > stnad > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > > husbands. > > > > > > > > > > > > women become desperate when they do not get men, when > they > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > afraid > > > > > > > > > > > > of servants, when they are frightened of being killed or > > > > > > > > > > > imprisoned. > > > > > > > > > > > > because they indulge in sexual intercourse as they please > > > they > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > fickleminded, of evil deeds and emotionally > > incomprehensible > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > to an > > > > > > > > > > > > intelligent man. > > > > > > > > > > > > fire is not satiated with the logs of wood it consumes, > > the > > > > ocean > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > not satiated with the rivers that flow into it. the god > of > > > > death > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > not satiated with the living beings he kills and women > are > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > satiated > > > > > > > > > > > > with the number of men they cohabit with. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is another secret of all women that immediately on > > > > seeing a > > > > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > > > their vaginal passage begins to exude slimy secretions. > > > > > > > > > > > > on seeing a man fresh and clean from his bath with his > > body > > > > > > > > > > > perfumed > > > > > > > > > > > > with sweet scents, the vaginal passage of women begins to > > > > exude > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > water dripping from a leather bag. > > > > > > > > > > > > women do not brook their husbands who may give all that > > they > > > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > may honour and console them and who may look after them > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > women do not remain satisfied and contented so much with > > > > simple > > > > > > > > > > > loves > > > > > > > > > > > > and pleasures and with ornaments and money as with > illicit > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > purused > > > > > > > > > > > > by them with other men. > > > > > > > > > > > > women can be kept equally balanced against all these put > > > > together > > > > > > > > > > > viz. > > > > > > > > > > > > god of death, yama, antaka, patala, the submarine fire, > > the > > > > sharp > > > > > > > > > > > edge > > > > > > > > > > > > of razor, poison, serpent and fire. > > > > > > > > > > > > ever since the five elements, the world, the men and > women > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > created > > > > > > > > > > > > by brahma, the defect lies in women always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sanatkumara says: o vyasa, thus the nature of women as > > > > mentioned > > > > > > > > > > > by a > > > > > > > > > > > > woman pancacuda has been narrated to you. what other > cause > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > detachment do you wish to hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============ =unquote= ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the above story also appears in mahabharata where bhishma > > > > > > > > > > narrates > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > for the reason of detachment from women. sage narada > > > > narrating > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > story as a cause of detachment is also found in other > > > > puranas. > > > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > > sages and saints narrate this story to their disciples > who > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in liberation and detachment from women. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members may remember a couple of mails earlier by me > where > > > > > > > > > > > pativratas > > > > > > > > > > > > brinda and tulasi gave curses to lord vishnu which > > highlight > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > pativrata is so rare and so powerful that even gods are > > > afraid > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > pativrata. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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