Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Friends, Free service is a sales strategy like giving free samples for advertisements. The basic purpose is to get clients. Therefore the so called free service is not a favour done. One would be really grateful if it is not done with an eye for a clientship. Ranbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Hare rama krishna respected bhaskar ji , Leave all faceless ppl who can only know how to assault on astrologers and their good doings . we hav miles to go . If he has some thing to offer to this astro grp he is welcome or --it depends on moderater ,i am sure he will do the necessary things .Unlike other grps . let us not care him as we dont know who is he and his mission . even i find even die hard evengelists pretends to be hindus and creates trouble in astro grps .U know what is their mission ( sorry i dont intent any puricular community ). i hav only one request ppl should practise what they preach . so let us move on regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , " ranbir.tokas " <ranbir.tokas wrote: > > > Who the hell are you to call my views RUBBISH? > > I find your out burst RUBBISH. > > Every body knows you here. > > Just two days ago you got kicked out of Jyotish Group. Had you been > such a valuable person the moderator wouldn't have kicked you out. > > Now you are here to create a mess. > > Go on. > > I have nothing to lose. I am not here to get clients. > > Ranbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 How would you decide that this free service is done with an eye for clientship or not ? What are the parameters ? Discuss sense and not speak nonsense..... BHASKAR. , " ranbir.tokas " <ranbir.tokas wrote: > > > Friends, > > > > Free service is a sales strategy like giving free samples for > advertisements. The basic purpose is to get clients. > > Therefore the so called free service is not a favour done. > > One would be really grateful if it is not done with an eye for a > clientship. > > > > Ranbir > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 I was certainly kicked out, but it was due to multiple ids like yours who did all the dirty business there in instigating me there, which is what you are now doing here. You are here to get clients by talking about spirituality and on your way to becoming a fake Guru, to loot the innnocent foreigners and Indians who fall prey for your scheming antics. Your types every one knows, you cannot contribute but can only loot. We know why you are here in this Forum. BHASKAR. - In , " ranbir.tokas " <ranbir.tokas wrote: > > > Who the hell are you to call my views RUBBISH? > > I find your out burst RUBBISH. > > Every body knows you here. > > Just two days ago you got kicked out of Jyotish Group. Had you been > such a valuable person the moderator wouldn't have kicked you out. > > Now you are here to create a mess. > > Go on. > > I have nothing to lose. I am not here to get clients. > > Ranbir > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > You kept quiet many times when I > > I took up the issue of astrologers, > > whenever it was trampled upon by > > ungrateful people. recently > > too you kept quite in Sandeep > > Khares case. I have stood alone > > most of the times > > fighting for the rights > > of the professional > > as well as free servicing > > astrologers. Should not you too > > be man enough to speak up? > > > > Is it right for you to keep > > quiet now when this person > > is unnecessarily speaking > > rot about many of us professional > > astrologers who are simultaneously > > giving their free services > > over here as well as doing their > > chosen work ? > > > > I am reminding you again and again, > > that UNITED WE STAND , and > > DIVIDED WE FALL. > > > > regards, > > BHASKAR. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > YOU STARTED ALL THIS RUBBISH BY TRYING TO > > > MIND ASTROLOGERS BUSINESS. THEREFORE JUST > > > STAY QUIET AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. > > > AND THE MATTER IS OVER THERE. DONT > > > TRY TO TEACH US ABOUT ASTROLOGERS. > > > THATS OUR BUSINESS. OKAY ? > > > > > > AND DONT TALK WITH PEOPLE LIKE > > > ME IF YOU DONT WISH. > > > I NEVER SENT YOU INVITATION. > > > > > > BHASKAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ranbir.tokas " > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Look Mr. Bhaskar I know what I should be talking about and > what > > > not. > > > > > > > > You mind your own business. > > > > > > > > Any way I shouldn't be talking to people like you. > > > > > > > > Ranbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > EAXCTLY. > > > > > In the same way You are no one to > > > > > talk what the astrologer > > > > > should be doing, > > > > > expecting, or how he should > > > > > be behaving. > > > > > > > > > > Period. > > > > > matter Closed. > > > > > > > > > > BHASKAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ranbir.tokas " > > > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > I said what I felt and you said what you felt. That is it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have as much right to speak as you or any body else. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are no body to tell me // Now ranbir next time dont > > open > > > > your > > > > > > Big mouth, > where not necessary. // > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the moderator has this right. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will speak as and when I feel like. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranbir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // These Astrology groups on are meant for free > > > > > readings. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where does say this ? Where did you read this ? > > > > > > > In the Constitution preamble ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // If a professional answers a query it is on his own > > sweet > > > > > will. > > > > > > No > > > > > > > body > > > > > > > forces him to do so.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know this. Everyone knows what a apple is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // It is no charity when a professional astrologer > > analyses > > > a > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > free in the group. Such free readings are free handouts > > > given > > > > to > > > > > > > advertise their products. Basically they are meant to > get > > > > > > clients. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay. Now what are you giving as free ? To get your > > > > > > > clients ? Or are you getting free Lunch and dinner at > home > > > > from > > > > > > > Father or some Uncle ? Which Big Companies are not doing > > so > > > in > > > > > > > India ? Please tell us. Dont they give free > > > > products/services > > > > > to > > > > > > > gain Clients ? > > > > > > > Then why you speak only to astrologers like this, and > not > > to > > > > > those > > > > > > > big companies ? > > > > > > > But first answer, what you are giving as Free. At least > > the > > > > > > > astrologers are > > > > > > > giving something as free, but You seem to be a ungrateful > > > > > > > person who will take out from others,insetead of giving > > > > anything > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > And it seems You are feeling jealous and troubled and at > > > great > > > > > > > suffering because others have something to sell over > here, > > > > > > > while you have neither to sell, nor contribute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Therefore no professional astrologer should expect > that > > > > those > > > > > > > who get a free reading from them should be obliged to > > > them. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who are you to say this what they should expect > > > > > > > or not ? You some judge ? High Court justice ? Some > > > > > > > prime minister ? tell us who are you before you make > > > > > > > such declarations and pass such judgements. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // No one gets obliged for the free handouts from an > > > > > > > advertising campaign. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many do. Only the cross breeds will not feel obliged, > > > > > > > for they have no single cilture to adhere to, and are > > > > > > > lying in between. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // If an astrologer feels that people should feel > obliged > > > to > > > > > > > him, let him stop analyzing horoscopes here and start > his > > > > > > > business from a shop some where else. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whio are you to decide where anyone should go ? You the > > > > > > > president of India ? Or Indira gandhis son ? > > > > > > > or osama Bin laden to decide ? Or are You > > > > > > > Bush ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. > > > > > > > I am just interested in astrology. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then why are you opening big mouth and talking big, > > > > > > > when ordinary man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now read Your own words as under in > > > > > > > Message #47595 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // If some one is selling what he has to sell, let him. > > > > > > > It shouldn't concern us, should it? // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above are your own words. Now what happened? > > > > > > > Feeling watery ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now ranbir next time dont open your Big mouth, > > > > > > > where not necessary. Dont try to play a > > > > > > > Guru or a Master here. We are not your shishyas. > > > > > > > None of the members here are. Okay ???????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BHASKAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ranbir.tokas " > > > > > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These Astrology groups on are meant for free > > > readings. > > > > > If > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > professional answers a query it is on his own sweet > > will. > > > No > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > forces him to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no charity when a professional astrologer > analyses > > a > > > > > chart > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > free in the group. Such free readings are free > handouts > > > > given > > > > > to > > > > > > > > advertise their products. Basically they are meant to > > get > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore no professional astrologer should expect > that > > > > those > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > get a free reading from them should be obliged to > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one gets obliged for the free handouts from an > > > > advertising > > > > > > > > campaign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If an astrologer feels that people should feel obliged > > to > > > > him, > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > him stop analyzing horoscopes here and start his > > business > > > > from > > > > > a > > > > > > > > shop some where else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. I > am > > > just > > > > > > > > interested in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranbir Tokas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Bhaskar ji and Ranbir ji, Relax ! ! ! Ranbir->Everybody has the right to create business, at the same time, , a platform which provides enormous opportunity to learn. In this particular group, if astrologers are giving free prediction then why a person should bother? In fact, it should not be a concern to anybody. Ranbir -> How would you judge whether an Astrologer is giving free predictions to sharpen there skills or to get more business. Anyways, in both cases they are correct as per my understanding. Even in our profession we are doing that, in this or that way. If all the astrologers stop answering queries, this group would not be existing. Relax now. Take a break ________________________________ On Behalf Of Bhaskar Friday, April 04, 2008 9:45 AM Re: Free readings in the group I was certainly kicked out, but it was due to multiple ids like yours who did all the dirty business there in instigating me there, which is what you are now doing here. You are here to get clients by talking about spirituality and on your way to becoming a fake Guru, to loot the innnocent foreigners and Indians who fall prey for your scheming antics. Your types every one knows, you cannot contribute but can only loot. We know why you are here in this Forum. BHASKAR. - In <%40> , " ranbir.tokas " <ranbir.tokas wrote: > > > Who the hell are you to call my views RUBBISH? > > I find your out burst RUBBISH. > > Every body knows you here. > > Just two days ago you got kicked out of Jyotish Group. Had you been > such a valuable person the moderator wouldn't have kicked you out. > > Now you are here to create a mess. > > Go on. > > I have nothing to lose. I am not here to get clients. > > Ranbir > > > > <%40> , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > You kept quiet many times when I > > I took up the issue of astrologers, > > whenever it was trampled upon by > > ungrateful people. recently > > too you kept quite in Sandeep > > Khares case. I have stood alone > > most of the times > > fighting for the rights > > of the professional > > as well as free servicing > > astrologers. Should not you too > > be man enough to speak up? > > > > Is it right for you to keep > > quiet now when this person > > is unnecessarily speaking > > rot about many of us professional > > astrologers who are simultaneously > > giving their free services > > over here as well as doing their > > chosen work ? > > > > I am reminding you again and again, > > that UNITED WE STAND , and > > DIVIDED WE FALL. > > > > regards, > > BHASKAR. > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > YOU STARTED ALL THIS RUBBISH BY TRYING TO > > > MIND ASTROLOGERS BUSINESS. THEREFORE JUST > > > STAY QUIET AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. > > > AND THE MATTER IS OVER THERE. DONT > > > TRY TO TEACH US ABOUT ASTROLOGERS. > > > THATS OUR BUSINESS. OKAY ? > > > > > > AND DONT TALK WITH PEOPLE LIKE > > > ME IF YOU DONT WISH. > > > I NEVER SENT YOU INVITATION. > > > > > > BHASKAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " ranbir.tokas " > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Look Mr. Bhaskar I know what I should be talking about and > what > > > not. > > > > > > > > You mind your own business. > > > > > > > > Any way I shouldn't be talking to people like you. > > > > > > > > Ranbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " Bhaskar " > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > EAXCTLY. > > > > > In the same way You are no one to > > > > > talk what the astrologer > > > > > should be doing, > > > > > expecting, or how he should > > > > > be behaving. > > > > > > > > > > Period. > > > > > matter Closed. > > > > > > > > > > BHASKAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " ranbir.tokas " > > > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > > > > > I said what I felt and you said what you felt. That is it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have as much right to speak as you or any body else. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are no body to tell me // Now ranbir next time dont > > open > > > > your > > > > > > Big mouth, > where not necessary. // > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the moderator has this right. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will speak as and when I feel like. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranbir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // These Astrology groups on are meant for free > > > > > readings. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where does say this ? Where did you read this ? > > > > > > > In the Constitution preamble ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // If a professional answers a query it is on his own > > sweet > > > > > will. > > > > > > No > > > > > > > body > > > > > > > forces him to do so.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know this. Everyone knows what a apple is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // It is no charity when a professional astrologer > > analyses > > > a > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > free in the group. Such free readings are free handouts > > > given > > > > to > > > > > > > advertise their products. Basically they are meant to > get > > > > > > clients. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay. Now what are you giving as free ? To get your > > > > > > > clients ? Or are you getting free Lunch and dinner at > home > > > > from > > > > > > > Father or some Uncle ? Which Big Companies are not doing > > so > > > in > > > > > > > India ? Please tell us. Dont they give free > > > > products/services > > > > > to > > > > > > > gain Clients ? > > > > > > > Then why you speak only to astrologers like this, and > not > > to > > > > > those > > > > > > > big companies ? > > > > > > > But first answer, what you are giving as Free. At least > > the > > > > > > > astrologers are > > > > > > > giving something as free, but You seem to be a ungrateful > > > > > > > person who will take out from others,insetead of giving > > > > anything > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > And it seems You are feeling jealous and troubled and at > > > great > > > > > > > suffering because others have something to sell over > here, > > > > > > > while you have neither to sell, nor contribute. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Therefore no professional astrologer should expect > that > > > > those > > > > > > > who get a free reading from them should be obliged to > > > them. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who are you to say this what they should expect > > > > > > > or not ? You some judge ? High Court justice ? Some > > > > > > > prime minister ? tell us who are you before you make > > > > > > > such declarations and pass such judgements. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // No one gets obliged for the free handouts from an > > > > > > > advertising campaign. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many do. Only the cross breeds will not feel obliged, > > > > > > > for they have no single cilture to adhere to, and are > > > > > > > lying in between. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // If an astrologer feels that people should feel > obliged > > > to > > > > > > > him, let him stop analyzing horoscopes here and start > his > > > > > > > business from a shop some where else. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whio are you to decide where anyone should go ? You the > > > > > > > president of India ? Or Indira gandhis son ? > > > > > > > or osama Bin laden to decide ? Or are You > > > > > > > Bush ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. > > > > > > > I am just interested in astrology. // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then why are you opening big mouth and talking big, > > > > > > > when ordinary man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now read Your own words as under in > > > > > > > Message #47595 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // If some one is selling what he has to sell, let him. > > > > > > > It shouldn't concern us, should it? // > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above are your own words. Now what happened? > > > > > > > Feeling watery ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now ranbir next time dont open your Big mouth, > > > > > > > where not necessary. Dont try to play a > > > > > > > Guru or a Master here. We are not your shishyas. > > > > > > > None of the members here are. Okay ???????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BHASKAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40> , " ranbir.tokas " > > > > > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These Astrology groups on are meant for free > > > readings. > > > > > If > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > professional answers a query it is on his own sweet > > will. > > > No > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > forces him to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no charity when a professional astrologer > analyses > > a > > > > > chart > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > free in the group. Such free readings are free > handouts > > > > given > > > > > to > > > > > > > > advertise their products. Basically they are meant to > > get > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore no professional astrologer should expect > that > > > > those > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > get a free reading from them should be obliged to > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one gets obliged for the free handouts from an > > > > advertising > > > > > > > > campaign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If an astrologer feels that people should feel obliged > > to > > > > him, > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > him stop analyzing horoscopes here and start his > > business > > > > from > > > > > a > > > > > > > > shop some where else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. I > am > > > just > > > > > > > > interested in astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranbir Tokas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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