Free readings in the group

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Dear Friends,

 

These Astrology groups on are meant for free readings. If a

professional answers a query it is on his own sweet will. No body

forces him to do so.

 

It is no charity when a professional astrologer analyses a chart for

free in the group. Such free readings are free handouts given to

advertise their products. Basically they are meant to get clients.

 

Therefore no professional astrologer should expect that those who

get a free reading from them should be obliged to them.

 

No one gets obliged for the free handouts from an advertising

campaign.

 

If an astrologer feels that people should feel obliged to him, let

him stop analyzing horoscopes here and start his business from a

shop some where else.

 

I am not an astrologer, professional or otherwise. I am just

interested in astrology.

 

Sincerely,

 

Ranbir Tokas

[Guest guest]

who is this jerk Ranbir anyways...

--- " Kapoor, Anshul " <anshul.kapoor

wrote:

 

> Bhaskar ji and Ranbir ji,

>

> Relax ! ! !

>

> Ranbir->Everybody has the right to create business,

> at the same time,

> , a platform which provides enormous

> opportunity to learn.

> In this particular group, if astrologers are giving

> free prediction then

> why a person should bother? In fact, it should not

> be a concern to

> anybody.

>

> Ranbir -> How would you judge whether an Astrologer

> is giving free

> predictions to sharpen there skills or to get more

> business.

> Anyways, in both cases they are correct as per my

> understanding. Even

> in our profession we are doing that, in this or that

> way.

>

> If all the astrologers stop answering queries, this

> group would not be

> existing.

>

> Relax now.

> Take a break

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> Friday, April 04, 2008 9:45 AM

>

> Re: Free readings in the group

>

>

>

> I was certainly kicked out, but

> it was due to multiple ids like yours

> who did all the dirty business there

> in instigating me there, which is

> what you are now doing here.

> You are here to get clients by talking

> about spirituality and on your way to

> becoming a fake Guru, to loot the

> innnocent foreigners and Indians who fall

> prey for your scheming antics.

> Your types every one knows, you

> cannot contribute but can only loot.

> We know why you are here in this Forum.

>

> BHASKAR.

>

> - In

> <%40> ,

> " ranbir.tokas "

> <ranbir.tokas wrote:

> >

> >

> > Who the hell are you to call my views RUBBISH?

> >

> > I find your out burst RUBBISH.

> >

> > Every body knows you here.

> >

> > Just two days ago you got kicked out of Jyotish

> Group. Had you

> been

> > such a valuable person the moderator wouldn't have

> kicked you out.

> >

> > Now you are here to create a mess.

> >

> > Go on.

> >

> > I have nothing to lose. I am not here to get

> clients.

> >

> > Ranbir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> <%40> ,

> " Bhaskar "

> > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Astrologers,

> > >

> > > You kept quiet many times when I

> > > I took up the issue of astrologers,

> > > whenever it was trampled upon by

> > > ungrateful people. recently

> > > too you kept quite in Sandeep

> > > Khares case. I have stood alone

> > > most of the times

> > > fighting for the rights

> > > of the professional

> > > as well as free servicing

> > > astrologers. Should not you too

> > > be man enough to speak up?

> > >

> > > Is it right for you to keep

> > > quiet now when this person

> > > is unnecessarily speaking

> > > rot about many of us professional

> > > astrologers who are simultaneously

> > > giving their free services

> > > over here as well as doing their

> > > chosen work ?

> > >

> > > I am reminding you again and again,

> > > that UNITED WE STAND , and

> > > DIVIDED WE FALL.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > BHASKAR.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyotish.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> <%40> ,

> " Bhaskar "

> > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > YOU STARTED ALL THIS RUBBISH BY TRYING TO

> > > > MIND ASTROLOGERS BUSINESS. THEREFORE JUST

> > > > STAY QUIET AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

> > > > AND THE MATTER IS OVER THERE. DONT

> > > > TRY TO TEACH US ABOUT ASTROLOGERS.

> > > > THATS OUR BUSINESS. OKAY ?

> > > >

> > > > AND DONT TALK WITH PEOPLE LIKE

> > > > ME IF YOU DONT WISH.

> > > > I NEVER SENT YOU INVITATION.

> > > >

> > > > BHASKAR.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> <%40> ,

> " ranbir.tokas "

> > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Look Mr. Bhaskar I know what I should be

> talking about and

> > what

> > > > not.

> > > > >

> > > > > You mind your own business.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any way I shouldn't be talking to people

> like you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ranbir

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40> ,

> " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > EAXCTLY.

> > > > > > In the same way You are no one to

> > > > > > talk what the astrologer

> > > > > > should be doing,

> > > > > > expecting, or how he should

> > > > > > be behaving.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Period.

> > > > > > matter Closed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > BHASKAR.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> <%40> ,

> " ranbir.tokas "

> > > > > > <ranbir.tokas@> wrote:

>

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Dear everybody,

 

I am new to the forum and am no Jyotish. I thought I

will find some thoughtful and fruitful discussions on

astrology here. I have been watching the discussions

for some time now. I am sorry to say that I find half

of the exchanges are full of bitterness and avoidable.

May be there are undercurrents and maybe group

politics which I am not aware of and nor do I

understand. But for the sake of sanity, I request all

posters, experts and novices, seekers and dipensers,

wise and idiots, great and small, alike - please stop

the unpleasantness. If you don't like some post, which

is not addressed specifically to you, you may say so,

but please cut out the bitterness. We may have

differences, doesn't mean we cannot discuss in a

dignified manner.

 

I am not making comments on any specifics, but this is

an appeal to all members. You may disagree with me and

read insinuations into it, but please be pleasant in

your replies. As the saying goes, the bountiful tree

laden with fruits bows, and so also the learned.

 

regards,

 

Narsingh

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Narsingh,

 

A good post, a wise post

and a glass of clear water, to the

thirsty traveller of the desert.

 

Great post.

 

Thanks. this was needed here, no doubt.

 

But I hope my appreciation is meant for

a genuine person, and not for a fake id.

We have got fed up of fake ids trying

to push out one man out from here,

Bhaskar. My consience tells me you

are a geuniuine person.

 

Truly yours,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Narsingh Sahu

<narsinghsahu wrote:

>

> Dear everybody,

>

> I am new to the forum and am no Jyotish. I thought I

> will find some thoughtful and fruitful discussions on

> astrology here. I have been watching the discussions

> for some time now. I am sorry to say that I find half

> of the exchanges are full of bitterness and avoidable.

> May be there are undercurrents and maybe group

> politics which I am not aware of and nor do I

> understand. But for the sake of sanity, I request all

> posters, experts and novices, seekers and dipensers,

> wise and idiots, great and small, alike - please stop

> the unpleasantness. If you don't like some post, which

> is not addressed specifically to you, you may say so,

> but please cut out the bitterness. We may have

> differences, doesn't mean we cannot discuss in a

> dignified manner.

>

> I am not making comments on any specifics, but this is

> an appeal to all members. You may disagree with me and

> read insinuations into it, but please be pleasant in

> your replies. As the saying goes, the bountiful tree

> laden with fruits bows, and so also the learned.

>

> regards,

>

> Narsingh

>

>

> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on

http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/

>

[Guest guest]

dear MR. Ranbir,

Please think for a moment as to what are u gaining by

putting forth ur thoughts (under the garb of freedom

of expression) and justifying that ur correct or the

other side is doing an act of injustice. U have

declared that u arent a professional astrologer which

means that ur source of income is from some other

vocation. Whereas there are astrologers whose income

is only from astrology and many a times they do give

free readings and in this process if the querrant

wants to know in depth of his life prospects naturally

he has to pay for it. A family doctor sometimes he may

not charge for his patient but when he refers to a

super specialist, the person has to pay thro his nose

to the super specialist to get a soln to his disease.

I would request u not to indulge in wasteful

arguements instead contribute to the subject if it is

possible from ur end.

 

good luck,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

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Hare rama krishna

 

dear gopu ji

 

 

 

well said thanxs ,but still ppl will bitch and moan as they want

astrology and astrologers this way only .They should not feel self

respect and when ever they require the queriest will take any id and

come and ask the questios to his hearts content and then he will kick on

ur face .

 

 

 

if some one is not an astrologer or dont wanted to do service i dont

know what he wants .I think the astrologers r not united and fighting

each other and so other parties r taking advantage .I think if ny one

harass or hurt an astrologer any one ,he shud not get any free reading

or even a paid reading frm grp astrologers.

 

 

 

thank u

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

>

> dear MR. Ranbir,

> Please think for a moment as to what are u gaining by

> putting forth ur thoughts (under the garb of freedom

> of expression) and justifying that ur correct or the

> other side is doing an act of injustice. U have

> declared that u arent a professional astrologer which

> means that ur source of income is from some other

> vocation. Whereas there are astrologers whose income

> is only from astrology and many a times they do give

> free readings and in this process if the querrant

> wants to know in depth of his life prospects naturally

> he has to pay for it. A family doctor sometimes he may

> not charge for his patient but when he refers to a

> super specialist, the person has to pay thro his nose

> to the super specialist to get a soln to his disease.

> I would request u not to indulge in wasteful

> arguements instead contribute to the subject if it is

> possible from ur end.

>

> good luck,

> k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi can any one help me to me from this site ....???? pls ..pls...

 

 

surya venkat.

 

--- On Fri, 4/4/08, ranbir.tokas <ranbir.tokas wrote:

 

ranbir.tokas <ranbir.tokas

free readings in the group

 

Friday, 4 April, 2008, 1:33 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friends,

 

Free service is a sales strategy like giving free samples for

advertisements. The basic purpose is to get clients.

 

Therefore the so called free service is not a favour done.

 

One would be really grateful if it is not done with an eye for a

clientship.

 

Ranbir