Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

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Members,

 

this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both sides are

protected and those who r not serious anyway won't bother calling, max may call

from a PCO and still be a nuisance which can be a minority number the bulk will

be sane and serious people calling

 

Best wishes

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

Unpaid Reading requests

 

Dear members,

 

Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

may address the same to me, and then also leave

their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

from this same cell no. This is to verify their

genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

here, and at least I do not have precious time to

squander on any fakes.

 

Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

who do not wish to reveal their identities are

welcome to contact me on my personal id for

Paid readings.

 

The above should be a simple process, I believe.

 

In short those who require free readings from me,

must identify and authenticate themselves.

 

best wishes,

BHASKAR.

www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

 

 

 

 

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Dear Prashantji,

 

Thank You for supporting this sugegstion.

 

I request all the astrologers working

on this Forum,if they find this suggestion

suitable, may unify, and take a stand, so

that none may be able to rub us the wrong

way, after receiving the predictions, and

we would be able to connect a real human

being to the email id, through which the

help call comes.

 

As far as I know Shri Prashantji, is the

hardest working astrologer on all these

astrological Forums, and i very much doubt

about that he receives a fit remuneration for

the services he has been offering to each and

all. I am sure there may be many fakes too,

taking advantage of his generousity, To

authenticate the enquirer, would at least give

us the satisfaction that our help has gone

to a real person. Monetary consideration is the

secondary part. Most important is giving help

and devoting time for study and reply, to the

right needful person, which would be assured

if the authentication is done.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't bother

calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which can

be a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people calling

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

>

> Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> Unpaid Reading requests

>

> Dear members,

>

> Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> may address the same to me, and then also leave

> their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> squander on any fakes.

>

> Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> Paid readings.

>

> The above should be a simple process, I believe.

>

> In short those who require free readings from me,

> must identify and authenticate themselves.

>

> best wishes,

> BHASKAR.

> www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

>

>

>

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A very good Idea- must be implimented. thanks bhaskarji and prashantji

 

rgds

niket

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't bother

calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which can be

a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people calling

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

>

> Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> Unpaid Reading requests

>

> Dear members,

>

> Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> may address the same to me, and then also leave

> their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> squander on any fakes.

>

> Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> Paid readings.

>

> The above should be a simple process, I believe.

>

> In short those who require free readings from me,

> must identify and authenticate themselves.

>

> best wishes,

> BHASKAR.

> www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

>

>

>

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Bhaskar

 

i hope u c the diff in what I do

 

I never supported heated arguements from anyside whatever may be the reason

after some early days when I felt may be I had to reply our WISDOM AND SELF

respect lies in reacting in a dignified mannaer

 

what I supported was the solution for a peaceful atmosphere in forums with so

many testing our patience and abusing our genorisity, sure what we give as free

are samples and SAMPLES ARE NOT FOR SALE

for the real product THOSE WHO PUSH FREE SAMPLES ALSO SELL it, that is those who

need it will buy even if they have to borrow and those who can pay and yet feel

astrology is for a door mat material wipe ur dirt and walk away it is sad

 

but at no time we must demand money and take what comes from the gen public but

those we know who can pay and ask us what we charge we can give a figure we feel

right for us and them in a modest way without hurting them

 

Best wishes

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Friday, April 4, 2008 9:57:57 PM

Re: Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

 

Dear Prashantji,

 

Thank You for supporting this sugegstion.

 

I request all the astrologers working

on this Forum,if they find this suggestion

suitable, may unify, and take a stand, so

that none may be able to rub us the wrong

way, after receiving the predictions, and

we would be able to connect a real human

being to the email id, through which the

help call comes.

 

As far as I know Shri Prashantji, is the

hardest working astrologer on all these

astrological Forums, and i very much doubt

about that he receives a fit remuneration for

the services he has been offering to each and

all. I am sure there may be many fakes too,

taking advantage of his generousity, To

authenticate the enquirer, would at least give

us the satisfaction that our help has gone

to a real person. Monetary consideration is the

secondary part. Most important is giving help

and devoting time for study and reply, to the

right needful person, which would be assured

if the authentication is done.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't bother

calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which can

be a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people calling

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

>

> Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> Unpaid Reading requests

>

> Dear members,

>

> Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> may address the same to me, and then also leave

> their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> squander on any fakes.

>

> Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> Paid readings.

>

> The above should be a simple process, I believe.

>

> In short those who require free readings from me,

> must identify and authenticate themselves.

>

> best wishes,

> BHASKAR.

> www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

>

>

>

>

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Very True Prashantji,

 

rgrds/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar

>

> i hope u c the diff in what I do

>

> I never supported heated arguements from anyside whatever may be

the reason after some early days when I felt may be I had to reply

our WISDOM AND SELF respect lies in reacting in a dignified mannaer

>

> what I supported was the solution for a peaceful atmosphere in

forums with so many testing our patience and abusing our genorisity,

sure what we give as free are samples and SAMPLES ARE NOT FOR SALE

> for the real product THOSE WHO PUSH FREE SAMPLES ALSO SELL it,

that is those who need it will buy even if they have to borrow and

those who can pay and yet feel astrology is for a door mat material

wipe ur dirt and walk away it is sad

>

> but at no time we must demand money and take what comes from the

gen public but those we know who can pay and ask us what we charge

we can give a figure we feel right for us and them in a modest way

without hurting them

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

>

> Friday, April 4, 2008 9:57:57 PM

> Re: Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

>

> Dear Prashantji,

>

> Thank You for supporting this sugegstion.

>

> I request all the astrologers working

> on this Forum,if they find this suggestion

> suitable, may unify, and take a stand, so

> that none may be able to rub us the wrong

> way, after receiving the predictions, and

> we would be able to connect a real human

> being to the email id, through which the

> help call comes.

>

> As far as I know Shri Prashantji, is the

> hardest working astrologer on all these

> astrological Forums, and i very much doubt

> about that he receives a fit remuneration for

> the services he has been offering to each and

> all. I am sure there may be many fakes too,

> taking advantage of his generousity, To

> authenticate the enquirer, would at least give

> us the satisfaction that our help has gone

> to a real person. Monetary consideration is the

> secondary part. Most important is giving help

> and devoting time for study and reply, to the

> right needful person, which would be assured

> if the authentication is done.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Members,

> >

> > this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

> sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't

bother

> calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which can

> be a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people

calling

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

> >

> > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> > Unpaid Reading requests

> >

> > Dear members,

> >

> > Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> > may address the same to me, and then also leave

> > their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> > from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> > genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> > here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> > squander on any fakes.

> >

> > Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> > not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> > who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> > welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> > Paid readings.

> >

> > The above should be a simple process, I believe.

> >

> > In short those who require free readings from me,

> > must identify and authenticate themselves.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > BHASKAR.

> > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

hare ramakrishna ,

 

respected bhaskar ji ,

 

 

 

good suggestions ,and wel done ,I think its first step to identify the

hawks later who can be a menace later .

 

 

 

Also i think if some one wants to hide their identity they can always

call astrologers who they want reply and request,so astrologer knows

whom they reply .Also can stop this double game to a grate extent .

 

 

 

thansks and regrds

 

sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Very True Prashantji,

>

> rgrds/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> gbp_kumar@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar

> >

> > i hope u c the diff in what I do

> >

> > I never supported heated arguements from anyside whatever may be

> the reason after some early days when I felt may be I had to reply

> our WISDOM AND SELF respect lies in reacting in a dignified mannaer

> >

> > what I supported was the solution for a peaceful atmosphere in

> forums with so many testing our patience and abusing our genorisity,

> sure what we give as free are samples and SAMPLES ARE NOT FOR SALE

> > for the real product THOSE WHO PUSH FREE SAMPLES ALSO SELL it,

> that is those who need it will buy even if they have to borrow and

> those who can pay and yet feel astrology is for a door mat material

> wipe ur dirt and walk away it is sad

> >

> > but at no time we must demand money and take what comes from the

> gen public but those we know who can pay and ask us what we charge

> we can give a figure we feel right for us and them in a modest way

> without hurting them

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@

> >

> > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:57:57 PM

> > Re: Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

> >

> > Dear Prashantji,

> >

> > Thank You for supporting this sugegstion.

> >

> > I request all the astrologers working

> > on this Forum,if they find this suggestion

> > suitable, may unify, and take a stand, so

> > that none may be able to rub us the wrong

> > way, after receiving the predictions, and

> > we would be able to connect a real human

> > being to the email id, through which the

> > help call comes.

> >

> > As far as I know Shri Prashantji, is the

> > hardest working astrologer on all these

> > astrological Forums, and i very much doubt

> > about that he receives a fit remuneration for

> > the services he has been offering to each and

> > all. I am sure there may be many fakes too,

> > taking advantage of his generousity, To

> > authenticate the enquirer, would at least give

> > us the satisfaction that our help has gone

> > to a real person. Monetary consideration is the

> > secondary part. Most important is giving help

> > and devoting time for study and reply, to the

> > right needful person, which would be assured

> > if the authentication is done.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Members,

> > >

> > > this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

> > sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't

> bother

> > calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which can

> > be a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people

> calling

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

> > >

> > > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> > > Unpaid Reading requests

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> > > may address the same to me, and then also leave

> > > their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> > > from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> > > genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> > > here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> > > squander on any fakes.

> > >

> > > Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> > > not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> > > who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> > > welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> > > Paid readings.

> > >

> > > The above should be a simple process, I believe.

> > >

> > > In short those who require free readings from me,

> > > must identify and authenticate themselves.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > BHASKAR.

> > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare RamaKrishna.

 

Shri Sunilji,

 

Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

You are aware that few of them have

spoiled my peace since last ten days

or so,those who have been helped

by me in the past, they have been

most acrimonic in their attacks, in

face of denial to answer their queries

Life long.I have decided to stop this,

to the limit I can. At least to whose

whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

are of course free to continue any

which way they deem fit. But I have no

interest in speaking further to any

nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

peace of mind.

 

kind regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> hare ramakrishna ,

>

> respected bhaskar ji ,

>

>

>

> good suggestions ,and wel done ,I think its first step to

identify the

> hawks later who can be a menace later .

>

>

>

> Also i think if some one wants to hide their identity they can

always

> call astrologers who they want reply and request,so astrologer knows

> whom they reply .Also can stop this double game to a grate extent .

>

>

>

> thansks and regrds

>

> sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Very True Prashantji,

> >

> > rgrds/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > gbp_kumar@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar

> > >

> > > i hope u c the diff in what I do

> > >

> > > I never supported heated arguements from anyside whatever may be

> > the reason after some early days when I felt may be I had to reply

> > our WISDOM AND SELF respect lies in reacting in a dignified

mannaer

> > >

> > > what I supported was the solution for a peaceful atmosphere in

> > forums with so many testing our patience and abusing our

genorisity,

> > sure what we give as free are samples and SAMPLES ARE NOT FOR SALE

> > > for the real product THOSE WHO PUSH FREE SAMPLES ALSO SELL it,

> > that is those who need it will buy even if they have to borrow and

> > those who can pay and yet feel astrology is for a door mat

material

> > wipe ur dirt and walk away it is sad

> > >

> > > but at no time we must demand money and take what comes from the

> > gen public but those we know who can pay and ask us what we charge

> > we can give a figure we feel right for us and them in a modest way

> > without hurting them

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@

> > >

> > > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:57:57 PM

> > > Re: Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

> > >

> > > Dear Prashantji,

> > >

> > > Thank You for supporting this sugegstion.

> > >

> > > I request all the astrologers working

> > > on this Forum,if they find this suggestion

> > > suitable, may unify, and take a stand, so

> > > that none may be able to rub us the wrong

> > > way, after receiving the predictions, and

> > > we would be able to connect a real human

> > > being to the email id, through which the

> > > help call comes.

> > >

> > > As far as I know Shri Prashantji, is the

> > > hardest working astrologer on all these

> > > astrological Forums, and i very much doubt

> > > about that he receives a fit remuneration for

> > > the services he has been offering to each and

> > > all. I am sure there may be many fakes too,

> > > taking advantage of his generousity, To

> > > authenticate the enquirer, would at least give

> > > us the satisfaction that our help has gone

> > > to a real person. Monetary consideration is the

> > > secondary part. Most important is giving help

> > > and devoting time for study and reply, to the

> > > right needful person, which would be assured

> > > if the authentication is done.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Members,

> > > >

> > > > this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

> > > sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't

> > bother

> > > calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which

can

> > > be a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people

> > calling

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> > > > Unpaid Reading requests

> > > >

> > > > Dear members,

> > > >

> > > > Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> > > > may address the same to me, and then also leave

> > > > their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> > > > from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> > > > genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> > > > here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> > > > squander on any fakes.

> > > >

> > > > Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> > > > not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> > > > who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> > > > welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> > > > Paid readings.

> > > >

> > > > The above should be a simple process, I believe.

> > > >

> > > > In short those who require free readings from me,

> > > > must identify and authenticate themselves.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > BHASKAR.

> > > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

respected memebers of this group, i am deeply sorry for i have to post

a reply to this thread with a question. i have posted a query about a

week ago and it informed me that i has to get approval from the group

owner. i was just wondering how long may it take for this to occur.

 

i wanted to take this chance to say thank you to all the astrologers

who take time out from there daily lives and help people with there

griefs and problems. you all must be blessed that u get a chance to do

such meaningful and much needed service to fellow beings

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Hare RamaKrishna.

>

> Shri Sunilji,

>

> Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

> You are aware that few of them have

> spoiled my peace since last ten days

> or so,those who have been helped

> by me in the past, they have been

> most acrimonic in their attacks, in

> face of denial to answer their queries

> Life long.I have decided to stop this,

> to the limit I can. At least to whose

> whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

> are of course free to continue any

> which way they deem fit. But I have no

> interest in speaking further to any

> nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

> peace of mind.

>

> kind regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hare ramakrishna ,

> >

> > respected bhaskar ji ,

> >

> >

> >

> > good suggestions ,and wel done ,I think its first step to

> identify the

> > hawks later who can be a menace later .

> >

> >

> >

> > Also i think if some one wants to hide their identity they can

> always

> > call astrologers who they want reply and request,so astrologer knows

> > whom they reply .Also can stop this double game to a grate extent .

> >

> >

> >

> > thansks and regrds

> >

> > sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Very True Prashantji,

> > >

> > > rgrds/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > gbp_kumar@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar

> > > >

> > > > i hope u c the diff in what I do

> > > >

> > > > I never supported heated arguements from anyside whatever may be

> > > the reason after some early days when I felt may be I had to reply

> > > our WISDOM AND SELF respect lies in reacting in a dignified

> mannaer

> > > >

> > > > what I supported was the solution for a peaceful atmosphere in

> > > forums with so many testing our patience and abusing our

> genorisity,

> > > sure what we give as free are samples and SAMPLES ARE NOT FOR SALE

> > > > for the real product THOSE WHO PUSH FREE SAMPLES ALSO SELL it,

> > > that is those who need it will buy even if they have to borrow and

> > > those who can pay and yet feel astrology is for a door mat

> material

> > > wipe ur dirt and walk away it is sad

> > > >

> > > > but at no time we must demand money and take what comes from the

> > > gen public but those we know who can pay and ask us what we charge

> > > we can give a figure we feel right for us and them in a modest way

> > > without hurting them

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@

> > > >

> > > > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:57:57 PM

> > > > Re: Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashantji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank You for supporting this sugegstion.

> > > >

> > > > I request all the astrologers working

> > > > on this Forum,if they find this suggestion

> > > > suitable, may unify, and take a stand, so

> > > > that none may be able to rub us the wrong

> > > > way, after receiving the predictions, and

> > > > we would be able to connect a real human

> > > > being to the email id, through which the

> > > > help call comes.

> > > >

> > > > As far as I know Shri Prashantji, is the

> > > > hardest working astrologer on all these

> > > > astrological Forums, and i very much doubt

> > > > about that he receives a fit remuneration for

> > > > the services he has been offering to each and

> > > > all. I am sure there may be many fakes too,

> > > > taking advantage of his generousity, To

> > > > authenticate the enquirer, would at least give

> > > > us the satisfaction that our help has gone

> > > > to a real person. Monetary consideration is the

> > > > secondary part. Most important is giving help

> > > > and devoting time for study and reply, to the

> > > > right needful person, which would be assured

> > > > if the authentication is done.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > this is a right way forward and peace and self respect of both

> > > > sides are protected and those who r not serious anyway won't

> > > bother

> > > > calling, max may call from a PCO and still be a nuisance which

> can

> > > > be a minority number the bulk will be sane and serious people

> > > calling

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Friday, April 4, 2008 9:08:34 PM

> > > > > Unpaid Reading requests

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who require readings from me on this Forum,

> > > > > may address the same to me, and then also leave

> > > > > their Cell No.in their message, and call me once

> > > > > from this same cell no. This is to verify their

> > > > > genuinity,as we have many fakes wasting our time

> > > > > here, and at least I do not have precious time to

> > > > > squander on any fakes.

> > > > >

> > > > > Those who cannot do above, I am sorry I will

> > > > > not be able to reply them. Another point is, those

> > > > > who do not wish to reveal their identities are

> > > > > welcome to contact me on my personal id for

> > > > > Paid readings.

> > > > >

> > > > > The above should be a simple process, I believe.

> > > > >

> > > > > In short those who require free readings from me,

> > > > > must identify and authenticate themselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > BHASKAR.

> > > > > www.shrikrishnajyot ish.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna

 

respected bhaskar ji ,

 

 

 

Its true we must draw a line some where .Those ppl r still

bitching and Moaning in their grp and cursing Mr bhaskar will loose his

predictiv skill after 12 yrs ,sunil nair will learn lessons .What those

dasa MahaVidya sadhaks done to the world and us>i dont think if asking

money is a crime for the services rendered >If they dont want they hav

the right to discontinue .

 

 

 

Even Big ashrams and swamiji s and religious institutions ask money as

donations and they amass also big money .Why not thse who go to

tirupathy mandir says if bhagavan has power let him generate money and

continue his expenses .I dont want this spiritual cheats what they

wanted to tell .They hav same double std every where .why they want

money frm the company they r working if they hav done dasa Mahavidhya

and if they think astrology is spiritual profession and should not

charge money ,Why they want money frm medicine or service they are

rendering .Any profession is also good and has same dignity .

 

 

 

This remebrs my electrician b4 ,He will come running for any problem he

is facing or any of his family memebrs facing and that time u hav to

see him ,The way he behaves .But after 2 days if i call him for any

services he will just charge me rs 50 even for visiting me and

exorbitant charges for what ever services he does and uses duplicate

material and charges the amnt of original .I think this will the case

with doctors or engineers who ever u may serve free .They will surely

will charge u .

 

 

 

This is how indians support their cultural heritage ,they want every

thing free ,same time they dont even mind to cheat u at the drop of the

hat .And uses full lung power abt god ,spirtuality and puranas ,After

this episodes i got lot of messges in chat ,sunil ji u should not worry

abt what he or she said ,Continue ur mission .Means they also wanted

free .And what they do is blessing us to poverty .Some one whom i done

one full day discussion and prediction on all of his family charts ( he

claims editor of a natioanl daily ) is writing in other grps that

astrologers should walk a stright line and they should foregt abt any

comforts .U know any of this parents if they find their kids r studying

astrology ,they will behav like they hav seen ghosts and will break the

both the legs of their kids for being so foolish .As they know frm their

mind that this is a thankless profession and its what they r doing also

..But only in case of emergency they want our service and will lament why

cant the astrologers has the calibre of old pundits who will say this

and that .As if they r taking care of us for rest of the life .All of

them sitting 24 hrs in computer ( means has that facility ) and keep on

running after one astrologer or other astrologer .And this is the sample

questions ----I hav 4 hotels in US and can i open another one .Or what

will happen to my business .Or this is my partner can i join with him

..Wat my next dasa shows should i transfer all my money frm my account to

kids Why they feel if astrology is spiritual one ,then it should be used

for material pursuits .

 

 

 

The dasa maha vidhya man is after knowing which girl chatted me today is

original and realy i can follow .If astro is spiritual then why they

want us to answer all this other than questions on sadhana or spiritual

devlpment .

 

 

 

I hope every thing wont continue the same way .But all those who r

claiming astrologers should hav some self respect too.

 

 

 

thank u sir .

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Hare RamaKrishna.

>

> Shri Sunilji,

>

> Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

> You are aware that few of them have

> spoiled my peace since last ten days

> or so,those who have been helped

> by me in the past, they have been

> most acrimonic in their attacks, in

> face of denial to answer their queries

> Life long.I have decided to stop this,

> to the limit I can. At least to whose

> whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

> are of course free to continue any

> which way they deem fit. But I have no

> interest in speaking further to any

> nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

> peace of mind.

>

> kind regards,

> Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna,

 

Dear Shri Sunilji,

 

I am a professional Astrologer for a few reasons.

 

1) My Guruji from Bikaner,Rajasthan ordered me to

be so, 3 Years back.

 

2) For Additional Income supplementing my regular

income, which was less than what should have been.

(At that point of time).

 

3) So that people value my Time, and Suggestions,

otherwise they take the same for granted.

 

4) My time is my family's time and Valuable.

I cant let any Hour go, of the day,

without earning few / few hundred/few thousand

Rupees. I never waste even 10 minutes, and this

is so for the last 25 Years, I have never slept

in the day time, and not even on a Sunday. So

people must value my time, by paying for the same.

Nobody should take the Divine science of Astrology

for granted, and the astrologer for granted.

 

" Jaake raakhe saaiyon, maar na sake koi " .

 

Lalit Mishra had cursed me a week back, that

I will loose my predictive capabilities immediately.

But I have given succesful predictions, till today,

including " Death' to a close family member, which

took place day before yesterday, on thursday,

as predicted.

 

Such idiots without ant spiritual powers,

and no character, but given character

certificates by people sitting on Lofty positions,

do not deserve much mention. neither are their

curses going to work, and neither are their

blessings.

 

One must continue giving free predictions as much

as one can, but with integrity, and it must be clear

that the time spent is valuable, and not meant for

flimsy enquiries.

 

Free samples or whatever, free sample for selling

or whatever, free samples for seeking bigger business

or whatever,FREE is FREE, and

TIME IS SPENT .

We are not big companies, and just small ordinary

astrologers (Individuals).

 

Let them ask for -

== free teaching for their students

from the school authorities

== free consultations from the CA.

== free medical services from their family Doctor.

== free milk samples from their milk Man.

== free electricity from the Electric company.

== free telephones ervices from the Dept.

== free calling from the Cell phone Companies.

== free services from the servant coming at Home.

== free services for their childrens tuition Teachers.

== free services from their childrens coaching classes.

== free services from their Landline Phone company.

== free services from Computer Cable operator.

 

etc. etc.

the List can go quite Long. Will they ask ?

And even if they, will they receive ?

 

So are we Astrologers, bloody sitting on the

roads with a bowl in our hands ?

 

No, we must rise to this respectable

professions demands.

We must have our self respect.

We must respect the Astrologers seat.

We must respct our family's time.

We must respect our own time.

We must respect our profession.

we must respect this Divine science.

We must respect the Ancinet Rishi Munis who

are the original teachers of this science.

 

All of us must rise, and demand respect,

and gain respect. Whatever is given free must

be taken with gratitude, and

whatever is taken extra,

must be compensated for the time spent.

 

Its as clear as Crystal Glass and water.

 

By the way I am donating 30% of my total Income

whether astrology or whatever. And I am also

paying income tax on my astrological income

(Received from a annual contract with a International

Company giving Astrologicals services, and not

from readings done on these Forums,

where the ratio of income is 1:200 readings given).

 

kind reagrds,

BHASKAR.

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare ramakrishna

>

> respected bhaskar ji ,

>

>

>

> Its true we must draw a line some where .Those ppl r still

> bitching and Moaning in their grp and cursing Mr bhaskar will

loose his

> predictiv skill after 12 yrs ,sunil nair will learn lessons .What

those

> dasa MahaVidya sadhaks done to the world and us>i dont think if

asking

> money is a crime for the services rendered >If they dont want they

hav

> the right to discontinue .

>

>

>

> Even Big ashrams and swamiji s and religious institutions ask

money as

> donations and they amass also big money .Why not thse who go to

> tirupathy mandir says if bhagavan has power let him generate money

and

> continue his expenses .I dont want this spiritual cheats what they

> wanted to tell .They hav same double std every where .why they want

> money frm the company they r working if they hav done dasa

Mahavidhya

> and if they think astrology is spiritual profession and should not

> charge money ,Why they want money frm medicine or service they are

> rendering .Any profession is also good and has same dignity .

>

>

>

> This remebrs my electrician b4 ,He will come running for any

problem he

> is facing or any of his family memebrs facing and that time u hav

to

> see him ,The way he behaves .But after 2 days if i call him for any

> services he will just charge me rs 50 even for visiting me and

> exorbitant charges for what ever services he does and uses

duplicate

> material and charges the amnt of original .I think this will the

case

> with doctors or engineers who ever u may serve free .They will

surely

> will charge u .

>

>

>

> This is how indians support their cultural heritage ,they want

every

> thing free ,same time they dont even mind to cheat u at the drop

of the

> hat .And uses full lung power abt god ,spirtuality and

puranas ,After

> this episodes i got lot of messges in chat ,sunil ji u should not

worry

> abt what he or she said ,Continue ur mission .Means they also

wanted

> free .And what they do is blessing us to poverty .Some one whom i

done

> one full day discussion and prediction on all of his family charts

( he

> claims editor of a natioanl daily ) is writing in other grps that

> astrologers should walk a stright line and they should foregt abt

any

> comforts .U know any of this parents if they find their kids r

studying

> astrology ,they will behav like they hav seen ghosts and will

break the

> both the legs of their kids for being so foolish .As they know frm

their

> mind that this is a thankless profession and its what they r doing

also

> .But only in case of emergency they want our service and will

lament why

> cant the astrologers has the calibre of old pundits who will say

this

> and that .As if they r taking care of us for rest of the life .All

of

> them sitting 24 hrs in computer ( means has that facility ) and

keep on

> running after one astrologer or other astrologer .And this is the

sample

> questions ----I hav 4 hotels in US and can i open another one .Or

what

> will happen to my business .Or this is my partner can i join with

him

> .Wat my next dasa shows should i transfer all my money frm my

account to

> kids Why they feel if astrology is spiritual one ,then it should

be used

> for material pursuits .

>

>

>

> The dasa maha vidhya man is after knowing which girl chatted me

today is

> original and realy i can follow .If astro is spiritual then why

they

> want us to answer all this other than questions on sadhana or

spiritual

> devlpment .

>

>

>

> I hope every thing wont continue the same way .But all those who

r

> claiming astrologers should hav some self respect too.

>

>

>

> thank u sir .

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare RamaKrishna.

> >

> > Shri Sunilji,

> >

> > Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

> > You are aware that few of them have

> > spoiled my peace since last ten days

> > or so,those who have been helped

> > by me in the past, they have been

> > most acrimonic in their attacks, in

> > face of denial to answer their queries

> > Life long.I have decided to stop this,

> > to the limit I can. At least to whose

> > whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

> > are of course free to continue any

> > which way they deem fit. But I have no

> > interest in speaking further to any

> > nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

> > peace of mind.

> >

> > kind regards,

> > Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskarji,

 

Will it be possible to institute some mechanism in this forum for

online donations through PayPal etc. which can be used for making

available online courses, books, and also some remunerations for the

professional astrologers,

 

Just thinking aloud...

 

regards,

 

Narsingh

 

,

" Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Dear Shri Sunilji,

>

> I am a professional Astrologer for a few reasons.

>

> 1) My Guruji from Bikaner,Rajasthan ordered me to

> be so, 3 Years back.

>

> 2) For Additional Income supplementing my regular

> income, which was less than what should have been.

> (At that point of time).

>

> 3) So that people value my Time, and Suggestions,

> otherwise they take the same for granted.

>

> 4) My time is my family's time and Valuable.

> I cant let any Hour go, of the day,

> without earning few / few hundred/few thousand

> Rupees. I never waste even 10 minutes, and this

> is so for the last 25 Years, I have never slept

> in the day time, and not even on a Sunday. So

> people must value my time, by paying for the same.

> Nobody should take the Divine science of Astrology

> for granted, and the astrologer for granted.

>

> " Jaake raakhe saaiyon, maar na sake koi " .

>

> Lalit Mishra had cursed me a week back, that

> I will loose my predictive capabilities immediately.

> But I have given succesful predictions, till today,

> including " Death' to a close family member, which

> took place day before yesterday, on thursday,

> as predicted.

>

> Such idiots without ant spiritual powers,

> and no character, but given character

> certificates by people sitting on Lofty positions,

> do not deserve much mention. neither are their

> curses going to work, and neither are their

> blessings.

>

> One must continue giving free predictions as much

> as one can, but with integrity, and it must be clear

> that the time spent is valuable, and not meant for

> flimsy enquiries.

>

> Free samples or whatever, free sample for selling

> or whatever, free samples for seeking bigger business

> or whatever,FREE is FREE, and

> TIME IS SPENT .

> We are not big companies, and just small ordinary

> astrologers (Individuals).

>

> Let them ask for -

> == free teaching for their students

> from the school authorities

> == free consultations from the CA.

> == free medical services from their family Doctor.

> == free milk samples from their milk Man.

> == free electricity from the Electric company.

> == free telephones ervices from the Dept.

> == free calling from the Cell phone Companies.

> == free services from the servant coming at Home.

> == free services for their childrens tuition Teachers.

> == free services from their childrens coaching classes.

> == free services from their Landline Phone company.

> == free services from Computer Cable operator.

>

> etc. etc.

> the List can go quite Long. Will they ask ?

> And even if they, will they receive ?

>

> So are we Astrologers, bloody sitting on the

> roads with a bowl in our hands ?

>

> No, we must rise to this respectable

> professions demands.

> We must have our self respect.

> We must respect the Astrologers seat.

> We must respct our family's time.

> We must respect our own time.

> We must respect our profession.

> we must respect this Divine science.

> We must respect the Ancinet Rishi Munis who

> are the original teachers of this science.

>

> All of us must rise, and demand respect,

> and gain respect. Whatever is given free must

> be taken with gratitude, and

> whatever is taken extra,

> must be compensated for the time spent.

>

> Its as clear as Crystal Glass and water.

>

> By the way I am donating 30% of my total Income

> whether astrology or whatever. And I am also

> paying income tax on my astrological income

> (Received from a annual contract with a International

> Company giving Astrologicals services, and not

> from readings done on these Forums,

> where the ratio of income is 1:200 readings given).

>

> kind reagrds,

> BHASKAR.

>

>

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare ramakrishna

> >

> > respected bhaskar ji ,

> >

> >

> >

> > Its true we must draw a line some where .Those ppl r still

> > bitching and Moaning in their grp and cursing Mr bhaskar will

> loose his

> > predictiv skill after 12 yrs ,sunil nair will learn lessons .What

> those

> > dasa MahaVidya sadhaks done to the world and us>i dont think if

> asking

> > money is a crime for the services rendered >If they dont want

they

> hav

> > the right to discontinue .

> >

> >

> >

> > Even Big ashrams and swamiji s and religious institutions ask

> money as

> > donations and they amass also big money .Why not thse who go to

> > tirupathy mandir says if bhagavan has power let him generate

money

> and

> > continue his expenses .I dont want this spiritual cheats what

they

> > wanted to tell .They hav same double std every where .why they

want

> > money frm the company they r working if they hav done dasa

> Mahavidhya

> > and if they think astrology is spiritual profession and should not

> > charge money ,Why they want money frm medicine or service they are

> > rendering .Any profession is also good and has same dignity .

> >

> >

> >

> > This remebrs my electrician b4 ,He will come running for any

> problem he

> > is facing or any of his family memebrs facing and that time u

hav

> to

> > see him ,The way he behaves .But after 2 days if i call him for

any

> > services he will just charge me rs 50 even for visiting me and

> > exorbitant charges for what ever services he does and uses

> duplicate

> > material and charges the amnt of original .I think this will the

> case

> > with doctors or engineers who ever u may serve free .They will

> surely

> > will charge u .

> >

> >

> >

> > This is how indians support their cultural heritage ,they want

> every

> > thing free ,same time they dont even mind to cheat u at the drop

> of the

> > hat .And uses full lung power abt god ,spirtuality and

> puranas ,After

> > this episodes i got lot of messges in chat ,sunil ji u should not

> worry

> > abt what he or she said ,Continue ur mission .Means they also

> wanted

> > free .And what they do is blessing us to poverty .Some one whom i

> done

> > one full day discussion and prediction on all of his family

charts

> ( he

> > claims editor of a natioanl daily ) is writing in other grps that

> > astrologers should walk a stright line and they should foregt abt

> any

> > comforts .U know any of this parents if they find their kids r

> studying

> > astrology ,they will behav like they hav seen ghosts and will

> break the

> > both the legs of their kids for being so foolish .As they know

frm

> their

> > mind that this is a thankless profession and its what they r

doing

> also

> > .But only in case of emergency they want our service and will

> lament why

> > cant the astrologers has the calibre of old pundits who will say

> this

> > and that .As if they r taking care of us for rest of the life

.All

> of

> > them sitting 24 hrs in computer ( means has that facility ) and

> keep on

> > running after one astrologer or other astrologer .And this is the

> sample

> > questions ----I hav 4 hotels in US and can i open another one .Or

> what

> > will happen to my business .Or this is my partner can i join with

> him

> > .Wat my next dasa shows should i transfer all my money frm my

> account to

> > kids Why they feel if astrology is spiritual one ,then it should

> be used

> > for material pursuits .

> >

> >

> >

> > The dasa maha vidhya man is after knowing which girl chatted me

> today is

> > original and realy i can follow .If astro is spiritual then why

> they

> > want us to answer all this other than questions on sadhana or

> spiritual

> > devlpment .

> >

> >

> >

> > I hope every thing wont continue the same way .But all those

who

> r

> > claiming astrologers should hav some self respect too.

> >

> >

> >

> > thank u sir .

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hare RamaKrishna.

> > >

> > > Shri Sunilji,

> > >

> > > Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

> > > You are aware that few of them have

> > > spoiled my peace since last ten days

> > > or so,those who have been helped

> > > by me in the past, they have been

> > > most acrimonic in their attacks, in

> > > face of denial to answer their queries

> > > Life long.I have decided to stop this,

> > > to the limit I can. At least to whose

> > > whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

> > > are of course free to continue any

> > > which way they deem fit. But I have no

> > > interest in speaking further to any

> > > nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

> > > peace of mind.

> > >

> > > kind regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Narsingh ji,

 

I appreciate your concerns for the

astrologers. But there are several

matters to comprehend, for which there could

be no solution available of any kind, given

the present scenario.

 

These include-

 

1) there is no single course available

online which can make one a astrologer,

who would be actually able to predict.

 

2) In fact there is no course available OfLine

too, to make one an Astrologer, without the

Student himself not wishing and putting the

efforts to do so.becoming an able

astrologer would require Grace of

God, primarily, then exact;ly commensurate

with the efforts and labours put in, with

regular hours of study, and a proper way

of living. ( The definitions of Study and

Way of Living are quite elaborate)

 

3) Most of the books of astrology which are

the classics, are already available in form

of e books, on most of the Forums,

for free, and one just has to

download and study them at leisure, if one

is ineterested. But like I said,

" Pothi padh padh, pandit bana na koi " .

 

4) Astrologers like myself, would never

acept dontaions, even if they go hungry.

The other astrologers, including

myself who may accept remunerations for the

readings done, - there is no parameter to

decide first of all who would the astrologers

be, to be eligible to receive these remunerations.

because there are more than 30 astrologers here,

and the problem is that most of the natives nowadays

who come for enquiring about their charts, they

become self-proposed astrologers after 3 months

and start reading for all enquiries. probably

that they think that there is lot of money here, lying on

the trees , just waiting to be pulled down like fruits.

There fore who is a astrologer, and who

is a bogus, this has to be reckoned.

 

5) What type of remuinerations, I mean

the quality, translated into number

of rupees per reading, would have to

be decided.

 

6) What does a reading mean- has to be defined.

 

7) WHO WILL PAY THE DONATIONS,

and for how much time, and whayt would be the

criteria for distribution, and to how many,

has to be decided.

 

8) Another problem is that nowadays most of the

astrologers dont have ethics due to jealousy, feeling of

competetion and other such .lowly behaviours.

I recently noticed in another forum one person Lalit Mishra

who has been troubling me since last 10 days,

with many false ids, another Astrologer of this Forum,

went and supported the Astrologer who gave a character

certificate to this Lalit Mishra. This way he could get back

at me, though he knows the character of the person in question

very well, yet the astrologer from this forum, got some sadistic

pleasure by supporting this high profile astrologer , and join

hands with this bad character and garner his support

to throw me out from here, and settle old imaginary scores

with me, i feel ashamed when assumingly

good astrologers behave in this manner. Unless Unity

is there among astrologers, nothing is going

to work out.

 

I have spent some time in writing

this, so that you dont persue

this matter, as it is breaking ones

head against a stone wall,

and nothing else.

 

But as I said earlier, I do appreciate

your good concern for us.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " narsinghsahu "

<narsinghsahu wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> Will it be possible to institute some mechanism in this forum for

> online donations through PayPal etc. which can be used for making

> available online courses, books, and also some remunerations for

the

> professional astrologers,

>

> Just thinking aloud...

>

> regards,

>

> Narsingh

>

> ,

> " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunilji,

> >

> > I am a professional Astrologer for a few reasons.

> >

> > 1) My Guruji from Bikaner,Rajasthan ordered me to

> > be so, 3 Years back.

> >

> > 2) For Additional Income supplementing my regular

> > income, which was less than what should have been.

> > (At that point of time).

> >

> > 3) So that people value my Time, and Suggestions,

> > otherwise they take the same for granted.

> >

> > 4) My time is my family's time and Valuable.

> > I cant let any Hour go, of the day,

> > without earning few / few hundred/few thousand

> > Rupees. I never waste even 10 minutes, and this

> > is so for the last 25 Years, I have never slept

> > in the day time, and not even on a Sunday. So

> > people must value my time, by paying for the same.

> > Nobody should take the Divine science of Astrology

> > for granted, and the astrologer for granted.

> >

> > " Jaake raakhe saaiyon, maar na sake koi " .

> >

> > Lalit Mishra had cursed me a week back, that

> > I will loose my predictive capabilities immediately.

> > But I have given succesful predictions, till today,

> > including " Death' to a close family member, which

> > took place day before yesterday, on thursday,

> > as predicted.

> >

> > Such idiots without ant spiritual powers,

> > and no character, but given character

> > certificates by people sitting on Lofty positions,

> > do not deserve much mention. neither are their

> > curses going to work, and neither are their

> > blessings.

> >

> > One must continue giving free predictions as much

> > as one can, but with integrity, and it must be clear

> > that the time spent is valuable, and not meant for

> > flimsy enquiries.

> >

> > Free samples or whatever, free sample for selling

> > or whatever, free samples for seeking bigger business

> > or whatever,FREE is FREE, and

> > TIME IS SPENT .

> > We are not big companies, and just small ordinary

> > astrologers (Individuals).

> >

> > Let them ask for -

> > == free teaching for their students

> > from the school authorities

> > == free consultations from the CA.

> > == free medical services from their family Doctor.

> > == free milk samples from their milk Man.

> > == free electricity from the Electric company.

> > == free telephones ervices from the Dept.

> > == free calling from the Cell phone Companies.

> > == free services from the servant coming at Home.

> > == free services for their childrens tuition Teachers.

> > == free services from their childrens coaching classes.

> > == free services from their Landline Phone company.

> > == free services from Computer Cable operator.

> >

> > etc. etc.

> > the List can go quite Long. Will they ask ?

> > And even if they, will they receive ?

> >

> > So are we Astrologers, bloody sitting on the

> > roads with a bowl in our hands ?

> >

> > No, we must rise to this respectable

> > professions demands.

> > We must have our self respect.

> > We must respect the Astrologers seat.

> > We must respct our family's time.

> > We must respect our own time.

> > We must respect our profession.

> > we must respect this Divine science.

> > We must respect the Ancinet Rishi Munis who

> > are the original teachers of this science.

> >

> > All of us must rise, and demand respect,

> > and gain respect. Whatever is given free must

> > be taken with gratitude, and

> > whatever is taken extra,

> > must be compensated for the time spent.

> >

> > Its as clear as Crystal Glass and water.

> >

> > By the way I am donating 30% of my total Income

> > whether astrology or whatever. And I am also

> > paying income tax on my astrological income

> > (Received from a annual contract with a International

> > Company giving Astrologicals services, and not

> > from readings done on these Forums,

> > where the ratio of income is 1:200 readings given).

> >

> > kind reagrds,

> > BHASKAR.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare ramakrishna

> > >

> > > respected bhaskar ji ,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Its true we must draw a line some where .Those ppl r

still

> > > bitching and Moaning in their grp and cursing Mr bhaskar will

> > loose his

> > > predictiv skill after 12 yrs ,sunil nair will learn

lessons .What

> > those

> > > dasa MahaVidya sadhaks done to the world and us>i dont think

if

> > asking

> > > money is a crime for the services rendered >If they dont want

> they

> > hav

> > > the right to discontinue .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Even Big ashrams and swamiji s and religious institutions

ask

> > money as

> > > donations and they amass also big money .Why not thse who go to

> > > tirupathy mandir says if bhagavan has power let him generate

> money

> > and

> > > continue his expenses .I dont want this spiritual cheats what

> they

> > > wanted to tell .They hav same double std every where .why they

> want

> > > money frm the company they r working if they hav done dasa

> > Mahavidhya

> > > and if they think astrology is spiritual profession and should

not

> > > charge money ,Why they want money frm medicine or service they

are

> > > rendering .Any profession is also good and has same dignity .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This remebrs my electrician b4 ,He will come running for any

> > problem he

> > > is facing or any of his family memebrs facing and that time u

> hav

> > to

> > > see him ,The way he behaves .But after 2 days if i call him

for

> any

> > > services he will just charge me rs 50 even for visiting me and

> > > exorbitant charges for what ever services he does and uses

> > duplicate

> > > material and charges the amnt of original .I think this will

the

> > case

> > > with doctors or engineers who ever u may serve free .They will

> > surely

> > > will charge u .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is how indians support their cultural heritage ,they

want

> > every

> > > thing free ,same time they dont even mind to cheat u at the

drop

> > of the

> > > hat .And uses full lung power abt god ,spirtuality and

> > puranas ,After

> > > this episodes i got lot of messges in chat ,sunil ji u should

not

> > worry

> > > abt what he or she said ,Continue ur mission .Means they also

> > wanted

> > > free .And what they do is blessing us to poverty .Some one

whom i

> > done

> > > one full day discussion and prediction on all of his family

> charts

> > ( he

> > > claims editor of a natioanl daily ) is writing in other grps

that

> > > astrologers should walk a stright line and they should foregt

abt

> > any

> > > comforts .U know any of this parents if they find their kids r

> > studying

> > > astrology ,they will behav like they hav seen ghosts and will

> > break the

> > > both the legs of their kids for being so foolish .As they know

> frm

> > their

> > > mind that this is a thankless profession and its what they r

> doing

> > also

> > > .But only in case of emergency they want our service and will

> > lament why

> > > cant the astrologers has the calibre of old pundits who will

say

> > this

> > > and that .As if they r taking care of us for rest of the life

> .All

> > of

> > > them sitting 24 hrs in computer ( means has that facility )

and

> > keep on

> > > running after one astrologer or other astrologer .And this is

the

> > sample

> > > questions ----I hav 4 hotels in US and can i open another

one .Or

> > what

> > > will happen to my business .Or this is my partner can i join

with

> > him

> > > .Wat my next dasa shows should i transfer all my money frm my

> > account to

> > > kids Why they feel if astrology is spiritual one ,then it

should

> > be used

> > > for material pursuits .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The dasa maha vidhya man is after knowing which girl chatted

me

> > today is

> > > original and realy i can follow .If astro is spiritual then

why

> > they

> > > want us to answer all this other than questions on sadhana or

> > spiritual

> > > devlpment .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I hope every thing wont continue the same way .But all those

> who

> > r

> > > claiming astrologers should hav some self respect too.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thank u sir .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare RamaKrishna.

> > > >

> > > > Shri Sunilji,

> > > >

> > > > Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

> > > > You are aware that few of them have

> > > > spoiled my peace since last ten days

> > > > or so,those who have been helped

> > > > by me in the past, they have been

> > > > most acrimonic in their attacks, in

> > > > face of denial to answer their queries

> > > > Life long.I have decided to stop this,

> > > > to the limit I can. At least to whose

> > > > whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

> > > > are of course free to continue any

> > > > which way they deem fit. But I have no

> > > > interest in speaking further to any

> > > > nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

> > > > peace of mind.

> > > >

> > > > kind regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Narsingh,

 

the idea is good on a online payment to astrologers but this is not the scope of

the online forums, most owners will pounce on u for it saying for this pl use ur

own portals or websites

 

these forums are knowledge sharing platforms primarily and debate/discussions

centric, personal questions by some members allows both the posters and

astrologers to share the light in the subject, sound is incidental here by sound

I mean any months a few that were addressed to me either. those who did wait for

some time [as a condition I did may be 2 readings in this period] remuneration

which is a v poor conversion say : we can answer free we get one paid and I have

had not time to answer in the last 18 motns [except 2 who did agree to give me

time toanswer, no point getting paid and not delivering-so never took them]

 

there r a few sites that cover some basic tutorials for astrology

 

http://www.goravani.com/

http://astrovisiononline.com/

that have some good lessons

 

but for the serious one face to face is always best and ICAS has a 2 yr course

that costs 7.5k with 4 semesters and each semester teaches u a lot more to make

u better astrologer they teach all the pouplar schools like parasari, jaimini,

kp, western from calculations to predictive concepts in a structured way and

also conduct tests at the end of every semester

 

for details

 

http://icas.org/

 

rest I can't comment time constraints.if I do a shody work will affect the peace

of the group,

 

Best wishes

 

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Sunday, April 6, 2008 1:46:58 AM

Re: Unpaid Reading requests 5/4

 

 

Dear Narsingh ji,

 

I appreciate your concerns for the

astrologers. But there are several

matters to comprehend, for which there could

be no solution available of any kind, given

the present scenario.

 

These include-

 

1) there is no single course available

online which can make one a astrologer,

who would be actually able to predict.

 

2) In fact there is no course available OfLine

too, to make one an Astrologer, without the

Student himself not wishing and putting the

efforts to do so.becoming an able

astrologer would require Grace of

God, primarily, then exact;ly commensurate

with the efforts and labours put in, with

regular hours of study, and a proper way

of living. ( The definitions of Study and

Way of Living are quite elaborate)

 

3) Most of the books of astrology which are

the classics, are already available in form

of e books, on most of the Forums,

for free, and one just has to

download and study them at leisure, if one

is ineterested. But like I said,

" Pothi padh padh, pandit bana na koi " .

 

4) Astrologers like myself, would never

acept dontaions, even if they go hungry.

The other astrologers, including

myself who may accept remunerations for the

readings done, - there is no parameter to

decide first of all who would the astrologers

be, to be eligible to receive these remunerations.

because there are more than 30 astrologers here,

and the problem is that most of the natives nowadays

who come for enquiring about their charts, they

become self-proposed astrologers after 3 months

and start reading for all enquiries. probably

that they think that there is lot of money here, lying on

the trees , just waiting to be pulled down like fruits.

There fore who is a astrologer, and who

is a bogus, this has to be reckoned.

 

5) What type of remuinerations, I mean

the quality, translated into number

of rupees per reading, would have to

be decided.

 

6) What does a reading mean- has to be defined.

 

7) WHO WILL PAY THE DONATIONS,

and for how much time, and whayt would be the

criteria for distribution, and to how many,

has to be decided.

 

8) Another problem is that nowadays most of the

astrologers dont have ethics due to jealousy, feeling of

competetion and other such .lowly behaviours.

I recently noticed in another forum one person Lalit Mishra

who has been troubling me since last 10 days,

with many false ids, another Astrologer of this Forum,

went and supported the Astrologer who gave a character

certificate to this Lalit Mishra. This way he could get back

at me, though he knows the character of the person in question

very well, yet the astrologer from this forum, got some sadistic

pleasure by supporting this high profile astrologer , and join

hands with this bad character and garner his support

to throw me out from here, and settle old imaginary scores

with me, i feel ashamed when assumingly

good astrologers behave in this manner. Unless Unity

is there among astrologers, nothing is going

to work out.

 

I have spent some time in writing

this, so that you dont persue

this matter, as it is breaking ones

head against a stone wall,

and nothing else.

 

But as I said earlier, I do appreciate

your good concern for us.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, " narsinghsahu "

<narsinghsahu@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

> Will it be possible to institute some mechanism in this forum for

> online donations through PayPal etc. which can be used for making

> available online courses, books, and also some remunerations for

the

> professional astrologers,

>

> Just thinking aloud...

>

> regards,

>

> Narsingh

>

> ,

> " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@ > wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunilji,

> >

> > I am a professional Astrologer for a few reasons.

> >

> > 1) My Guruji from Bikaner,Rajasthan ordered me to

> > be so, 3 Years back.

> >

> > 2) For Additional Income supplementing my regular

> > income, which was less than what should have been.

> > (At that point of time).

> >

> > 3) So that people value my Time, and Suggestions,

> > otherwise they take the same for granted.

> >

> > 4) My time is my family's time and Valuable.

> > I cant let any Hour go, of the day,

> > without earning few / few hundred/few thousand

> > Rupees. I never waste even 10 minutes, and this

> > is so for the last 25 Years, I have never slept

> > in the day time, and not even on a Sunday. So

> > people must value my time, by paying for the same.

> > Nobody should take the Divine science of Astrology

> > for granted, and the astrologer for granted.

> >

> > " Jaake raakhe saaiyon, maar na sake koi " .

> >

> > Lalit Mishra had cursed me a week back, that

> > I will loose my predictive capabilities immediately.

> > But I have given succesful predictions, till today,

> > including " Death' to a close family member, which

> > took place day before yesterday, on thursday,

> > as predicted.

> >

> > Such idiots without ant spiritual powers,

> > and no character, but given character

> > certificates by people sitting on Lofty positions,

> > do not deserve much mention. neither are their

> > curses going to work, and neither are their

> > blessings.

> >

> > One must continue giving free predictions as much

> > as one can, but with integrity, and it must be clear

> > that the time spent is valuable, and not meant for

> > flimsy enquiries.

> >

> > Free samples or whatever, free sample for selling

> > or whatever, free samples for seeking bigger business

> > or whatever,FREE is FREE, and

> > TIME IS SPENT .

> > We are not big companies, and just small ordinary

> > astrologers (Individuals) .

> >

> > Let them ask for -

> > == free teaching for their students

> > from the school authorities

> > == free consultations from the CA.

> > == free medical services from their family Doctor.

> > == free milk samples from their milk Man.

> > == free electricity from the Electric company.

> > == free telephones ervices from the Dept.

> > == free calling from the Cell phone Companies.

> > == free services from the servant coming at Home.

> > == free services for their childrens tuition Teachers.

> > == free services from their childrens coaching classes.

> > == free services from their Landline Phone company.

> > == free services from Computer Cable operator.

> >

> > etc. etc.

> > the List can go quite Long. Will they ask ?

> > And even if they, will they receive ?

> >

> > So are we Astrologers, bloody sitting on the

> > roads with a bowl in our hands ?

> >

> > No, we must rise to this respectable

> > professions demands.

> > We must have our self respect.

> > We must respect the Astrologers seat.

> > We must respct our family's time.

> > We must respect our own time.

> > We must respect our profession.

> > we must respect this Divine science.

> > We must respect the Ancinet Rishi Munis who

> > are the original teachers of this science.

> >

> > All of us must rise, and demand respect,

> > and gain respect. Whatever is given free must

> > be taken with gratitude, and

> > whatever is taken extra,

> > must be compensated for the time spent.

> >

> > Its as clear as Crystal Glass and water.

> >

> > By the way I am donating 30% of my total Income

> > whether astrology or whatever. And I am also

> > paying income tax on my astrological income

> > (Received from a annual contract with a International

> > Company giving Astrologicals services, and not

> > from readings done on these Forums,

> > where the ratio of income is 1:200 readings given).

> >

> > kind reagrds,

> > BHASKAR.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare ramakrishna

> > >

> > > respected bhaskar ji ,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Its true we must draw a line some where .Those ppl r

still

> > > bitching and Moaning in their grp and cursing Mr bhaskar will

> > loose his

> > > predictiv skill after 12 yrs ,sunil nair will learn

lessons .What

> > those

> > > dasa MahaVidya sadhaks done to the world and us>i dont think

if

> > asking

> > > money is a crime for the services rendered >If they dont want

> they

> > hav

> > > the right to discontinue .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Even Big ashrams and swamiji s and religious institutions

ask

> > money as

> > > donations and they amass also big money .Why not thse who go to

> > > tirupathy mandir says if bhagavan has power let him generate

> money

> > and

> > > continue his expenses .I dont want this spiritual cheats what

> they

> > > wanted to tell .They hav same double std every where .why they

> want

> > > money frm the company they r working if they hav done dasa

> > Mahavidhya

> > > and if they think astrology is spiritual profession and should

not

> > > charge money ,Why they want money frm medicine or service they

are

> > > rendering .Any profession is also good and has same dignity .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This remebrs my electrician b4 ,He will come running for any

> > problem he

> > > is facing or any of his family memebrs facing and that time u

> hav

> > to

> > > see him ,The way he behaves .But after 2 days if i call him

for

> any

> > > services he will just charge me rs 50 even for visiting me and

> > > exorbitant charges for what ever services he does and uses

> > duplicate

> > > material and charges the amnt of original .I think this will

the

> > case

> > > with doctors or engineers who ever u may serve free .They will

> > surely

> > > will charge u .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This is how indians support their cultural heritage ,they

want

> > every

> > > thing free ,same time they dont even mind to cheat u at the

drop

> > of the

> > > hat .And uses full lung power abt god ,spirtuality and

> > puranas ,After

> > > this episodes i got lot of messges in chat ,sunil ji u should

not

> > worry

> > > abt what he or she said ,Continue ur mission .Means they also

> > wanted

> > > free .And what they do is blessing us to poverty .Some one

whom i

> > done

> > > one full day discussion and prediction on all of his family

> charts

> > ( he

> > > claims editor of a natioanl daily ) is writing in other grps

that

> > > astrologers should walk a stright line and they should foregt

abt

> > any

> > > comforts .U know any of this parents if they find their kids r

> > studying

> > > astrology ,they will behav like they hav seen ghosts and will

> > break the

> > > both the legs of their kids for being so foolish .As they know

> frm

> > their

> > > mind that this is a thankless profession and its what they r

> doing

> > also

> > > .But only in case of emergency they want our service and will

> > lament why

> > > cant the astrologers has the calibre of old pundits who will

say

> > this

> > > and that .As if they r taking care of us for rest of the life

> .All

> > of

> > > them sitting 24 hrs in computer ( means has that facility )

and

> > keep on

> > > running after one astrologer or other astrologer .And this is

the

> > sample

> > > questions ----I hav 4 hotels in US and can i open another

one .Or

> > what

> > > will happen to my business .Or this is my partner can i join

with

> > him

> > > .Wat my next dasa shows should i transfer all my money frm my

> > account to

> > > kids Why they feel if astrology is spiritual one ,then it

should

> > be used

> > > for material pursuits .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The dasa maha vidhya man is after knowing which girl chatted

me

> > today is

> > > original and realy i can follow .If astro is spiritual then

why

> > they

> > > want us to answer all this other than questions on sadhana or

> > spiritual

> > > devlpment .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I hope every thing wont continue the same way .But all those

> who

> > r

> > > claiming astrologers should hav some self respect too.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thank u sir .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <rajiventerprises@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hare RamaKrishna.

> > > >

> > > > Shri Sunilji,

> > > >

> > > > Yes I had to draw a Line somewhere.

> > > > You are aware that few of them have

> > > > spoiled my peace since last ten days

> > > > or so,those who have been helped

> > > > by me in the past, they have been

> > > > most acrimonic in their attacks, in

> > > > face of denial to answer their queries

> > > > Life long.I have decided to stop this,

> > > > to the limit I can. At least to whose

> > > > whom I reply. Rest of the astrologers

> > > > are of course free to continue any

> > > > which way they deem fit. But I have no

> > > > interest in speaking further to any

> > > > nameless or faceless id. and spoil my

> > > > peace of mind.

> > > >

> > > > kind regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

 

respected bhaskar ji .

 

 

 

yes well said ,But this psudo spiritualists who wanted to sell our

culture for their own welbeing and intoxicated by some fast money which

they happen to get frm some recent years has spoiled their thinking

power and even reasoning power along with some selfish and ulterier

motives think that they r ruling the world and time will be like this

for ever for them.And foolishly thinks the fate always will run their

favr . They dont learn frm histories .

 

 

 

But what they dont under stand is the curse of rishis who ever try to

humiliate astrology and astrologers ( wheter they r good or bad that is

diffrnt ) will hav to face serious concerns even varahamihira said the

out siders of indian culture like yavanas were considered like rishis

..So that was the respect and even higher facility getting in those days

who ever delved into this devine science .Other wise who can learn this

biggest intellectual profession till today india has contributed to the

world .And its how it has passed the test of time and ages and still

surviving .What so many 1000s of years cant do to astrology Under

diffrnt rules and aggressions and natural calmity,the damage ,it has

done in last 60 years of this full mouthing ppl who says astrologers

shud not charge ,should not fight back ,accept all humiliation because u

take this profession .Also dont expect any comforts ,ur only duty is sit

and predict only for me .Those fools may be thinking even brahma created

every thing for them also.

 

 

 

some ppl with their peanut brain studied some professional courses

and may be getting some fat pack think they hav all the rights to judge

and govern astrologers ,because they cant even bite the edge of this

holy sastra .And if office also is providing all the system support then

what they lack ?? Also getting paid for the time used for humiliating

astrologers .

 

 

 

Keep going ahead sir <let dogs bark ,because they r getting visions and

so the howling will b more .

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Dear Shri Sunilji,

>

> I am a professional Astrologer for a few reasons.

>

> 1) My Guruji from Bikaner,Rajasthan ordered me to

> be so, 3 Years back.

>

> 2) For Additional Income supplementing my regular

> income, which was less than what should have been.

> (At that point of time).

>

> 3) So that people value my Time, and Suggestions,

> otherwise they take the same for granted.

>

> 4) My time is my family's time and Valuable.

> I cant let any Hour go, of the day,

> without earning few / few hundred/few thousand

> Rupees. I never waste even 10 minutes, and this

> is so for the last 25 Years, I have never slept

> in the day time, and not even on a Sunday. So

> people must value my time, by paying for the same.

> Nobody should take the Divine science of Astrology

> for granted, and the astrologer for granted.

>

> " Jaake raakhe saaiyon, maar na sake koi " .

>

> Lalit Mishra had cursed me a week back, that

> I will loose my predictive capabilities immediately.

> But I have given succesful predictions, till today,

> including " Death' to a close family member, which

> took place day before yesterday, on thursday,

> as predicted.

>

> Such idiots without ant spiritual powers,

> and no character, but given character

> certificates by people sitting on Lofty positions,

> do not deserve much mention. neither are their

> curses going to work, and neither are their

> blessings.

>

> One must continue giving free predictions as much

> as one can, but with integrity, and it must be clear

> that the time spent is valuable, and not meant for

> flimsy enquiries.

>

> Free samples or whatever, free sample for selling

> or whatever, free samples for seeking bigger business

> or whatever,FREE is FREE, and

> TIME IS SPENT .

> We are not big companies, and just small ordinary

> astrologers (Individuals).

>

> Let them ask for -

> == free teaching for their students

> from the school authorities

> == free consultations from the CA.

> == free medical services from their family Doctor.

> == free milk samples from their milk Man.

> == free electricity from the Electric company.

> == free telephones ervices from the Dept.

> == free calling from the Cell phone Companies.

> == free services from the servant coming at Home.

> == free services for their childrens tuition Teachers.

> == free services from their childrens coaching classes.

> == free services from their Landline Phone company.

> == free services from Computer Cable operator.

>

> etc. etc.

> the List can go quite Long. Will they ask ?

> And even if they, will they receive ?

>

> So are we Astrologers, bloody sitting on the

> roads with a bowl in our hands ?

>

> No, we must rise to this respectable

> professions demands.

> We must have our self respect.

> We must respect the Astrologers seat.

> We must respct our family's time.

> We must respect our own time.

> We must respect our profession.

> we must respect this Divine science.

> We must respect the Ancinet Rishi Munis who

> are the original teachers of this science.

>

> All of us must rise, and demand respect,

> and gain respect. Whatever is given free must

> be taken with gratitude, and

> whatever is taken extra,

> must be compensated for the time spent.

>

> Its as clear as Crystal Glass and water.

>

> By the way I am donating 30% of my total Income

> whether astrology or whatever. And I am also

> paying income tax on my astrological income

> (Received from a annual contract with a International

> Company giving Astrologicals services, and not

> from readings done on these Forums,

> where the ratio of income is 1:200 readings given).

>

> kind reagrds,

> BHASKAR.