Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Dear Sunil, Much against my wishes I did read the files uploaded by Roopak there r 2 folders one hate mails by bhaskar and 2nd by dipika, dipika I have already sent to now read the 1st one 4 mails aren't they similar JUDGE FOR URSELF if this is a coincidence that 2 people can write same things ne in Bangalore another in Mumbai....! possible only if part of that same gang and they share such resources and as u r seeing so many ppl r opposed to him, I HAVE NOT BANNED BHASKAR yet he is under moderation ONLY i don't HOPE to see any good stuff from him coming, and if at all he wants to come in he must fist admit to the fake ID's hate mails to each and everyone he has addressed it and start on a clean slate all over again BUT PLEASE READ THE UPLOADED FILES and I WANT U to mail this group on it as well like I have done a painful reading it was. having received many of them myself for years by him Prashant kumar girish_raheja <girish_raheja Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:52:53 AM Re: ThanQ all members, sunil too 21/5 Respected Sunil Nair ji, Let us stop being Devil's advocate. You friend Bhaskar himself and through many of his fake IDs , has hurt many of us. Let us not talk of him any more. This group will always be well off without him. Now that he is banned, there is peace in the group. Any reconsideration on his ban would mean inviting trouble for the group. Let there be peace in the group. With respect to every one, Girish Raheja , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear prashantji > > > > i am not saying we dont hav our own diffrneces . > > > > what i was saying this dipika episode i cant see any co relation. > > > > ,while i suggest u for fornming a union to avoid over utilsiation of > astrolgers by others , u wer ready to form a syndicate of astrologers > and i am sure in future it will be done .even at first i did consulted u > only ..U know the reason i made it a point the day when u and bhaskar ji > settles ur diffrnces i will come out as i respect u both .Till then i > will wait . > > > > let us see the time is great curer and i blv in god . > > > > even when i was attacked after catering some one for one full yr no one > defended me .So i dont want this to happen any one ,tho its my fate > .They accuse me of charging money ,i am openly says i do charge .I dont > hav any shame abt it ,so long as they take salaries and enjoy i can > charge them also .for services i am giving .why and waht is the reason i > or any one shud work for them free ,but i made a mistake and blv their > spiritual talk and now by bhavanies garce i am very much comfortable and > more than wat they can earn per month . > > > > yes ,as u say let us see wat future unfolds for us .still i repeat the > astrology and astrologers r my concerns .nothing else . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil > > > > u r defending someone who is known to have offended many here and u > see their posts and ignore their sentiments also and I hope u are aware > Bhaskar had opened a group to list his hated people and neednot say I am > on top, he called me a fraud and what notm u can get the details from > him or the JS group, VA etc > > > > as aid if at all I see a sea change and astro content with no hate on > 1ANYONE' i will post it, as of now I get only ones that came in VA till > it was set to moderation, which was my recomendation there all I/we do > now is if we can allow such messages to die its natural death if not > approved in 14 days. so much time I have given for such elements to > retract and behave. > > > > and the bad language I can't find a coompetitor to him see the past > ones. > > > > most important thing when I asked u to defend me when he under HIS ID > attacked me u cud have done same, why r u treating us differently I > asked u too also do it, when u suggested we form a syndicate, I said NO > WAY as I know Bhakar wants to frame rules that he will break and nevr > abide by them > > > > you can see them last yr he set some guidelines and within minutes > broke it > > > > ONE OF THE POINTS WAS NOT TO CROSS POST on any other astrologers > messages > > > > which he and tarun agarwal did repeatedly > > > > the time u asked for asyndicate there was peace between Bhaskar and > me, if u remember I did even protest when a member said v low things on > bhaskars daughter. but told u I cant trust his temperment in any minute > it will change and wont work > > > > above all if we can't respect our peace loving and worried members we > ourselves can't exist if they are there we r there too. > > this is apart from our individual clientèle here we share more > knowledge, nurture fresh talent apart from ourselves learning a few > things, every human being learns till the last breath, we can't claim > mastery over all areas. > > > > on ur plea lets wait for some time, let us enjoy peace which exists in > JG, JR, VA now hope other groups also find peace. > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:57:56 PM > > Re: ThanQ all members, sunil too 21/5 > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear prashnath ji > > > > i got not only those mails ,but my exp with all this grp says bhaskar > > ji not even knows them ,so why he shud act as if some dipika blr and > > call them bad language and even use street language . > > > > sir i think some xian evanagelist funded by some organisations playing > > this .other wise Pls think wat is the benefit for creating this > nuisance > > .even when my name appear on VA list as if i am some menon id ,i know > > he can defend himself and he is very much alive in this world and and > he > > is employed in chennai and any one frm chennai can meet him personaly > > .So i opt to not reply .if some one interested pls conct me and i can > > giv his number as he is my customer also . > > > > so what i shud say knowingly ,as i got almost 50 mails frm diffrnt ppl > > which i hav no right to disclose . > > > > They r big and can even influence cyber cell ,one is relatd to CPM > cheif > > prakash karat , > > > > why bhaskar ji shud sent such a mail to those guy who is working in a > > govtment deptment as very senior officer and no way a treate to him > > and only a astro hobbyist tho he belong to a cultural family frm > kerala > > . > > > > i said what i know as truth prima facie i shud disclose ,and u know it > > .i think > > > > let us move on ,back to astro ,when things r more clear every one will > > know wat is it .at least u will agree i hav no relation with bhaskar > ji > > other than we r all astrologers . > > > > even in one mail which is showing deepika and uses ur id and some > under > > writing of ur signature in the mail ,i defend for u .and the mail i > > sent u .He is one of the famous union leaders( that also central > > govtment officers ) and only hobby is astrology .Do u think he cant > > inflence any one in government and elements like dipika or who ever > can > > play with him ?? > > > > i try to reason with him and i said i know u and u will never sent > such > > a mail . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil and PP > > > > > > well I have little doubt on this as I have shown u, sunil how the > 1st > > mail shows it may be different > > > A There all are attacked in it but > > > by sending a few lines at him it got all the usual hate, distinct if > u > > have have read sharma balacnadra's or goti cuttur, or garima etc u > will > > know all r same style of his [bhaskars] and now that he is feeling all > > of u have deserted him he is at u all also > > > > > > but how r v all responsible? > > > > > > if u all recall Ratnakar had asked a question on aspects on vargas > > when I replied to it he got angry and felt I was helping those who > > abused him, and how many of his victims/villians can I remember unless > > he publishes a updated list and he has problems with every one from > his > > own posts from family to other members around him > > > > > > He over reacts to any situation and in such low manner many will be > > provoked to take him on. > > > > > > But dipika has used my mail signature of VA > > > > > > he has used many female names line bidhya goswami, dipika garima etc > > just to trap me > > > but I have done nothing wrong I have put my signature and said in > > words too that > > > > > > I use pictures to verify LAGNA FEATURES of MALES and females AS WE > > HAVE NO CHOICE if we had sat face to face we don't need it we can see > > their features > > > > > > say a malefic influence on lagna's its extent can shape the > > complexion, texture, blisters, pimples, wrinkles, scars, moles of the > > face and when we say FACE IS THE INDEX OF THE mind are we wrong.? > > > > > > and I have never forced anyone to give either if they r serious they > > will lese I too did not care. with time constraints future will see > how > > it goes > > > > > > Prashant kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:11:04 PM > > > Re: ThanQ all members, sunil too 21/5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear Prashanth ji > > > > > > I also got many mails frm many senior astrologers and respected > > > persons that this id used ( dipika blr ) same language and style. > > > > > > even i sent u some mails . Now god knows who is who . > > > > > > because u know if its Bhaskar ji deepika has no reason to sent mails > > to > > > those ppl who r no way connected to him or his fights .But the mails > r > > > sent to ur id and u can also check it .( we shud say the truth and > see > > > the truth ,may be some one else is playing ,so i did sent u ) > > > > > > now i am confused . > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > I have sent u 2 mails of dipika alias bhaskar in one of the 1st > one > > > she sent she faked being different by giving bhaskars fake ID among > > > others > > > > > > > > but after the settings in VA were set to moderated posts he sent a > > > abusive mail HIS STYLE TO A FEW MEMBERS even me in personal ID so I > > did > > > reply to it using 4 lines of his he got angry and used more vulgar > > stuff > > > again if u see his posts in public as sharma_balachamdra, publicuty > > > creators, yup_I_can tell etc they r same stuff no one can compete or > > go > > > near him > > > > > > > > well if the reason for fake ID's is being banned, then it must > stay > > so > > > isnt it if they have any remorese then they can use a fake ID and do > > > good services once they got a good name they can say there r same > old > > > ppl isnt it. no they use several fakes just to malign people and > > destroy > > > groups as thei HILLA MONSOTR had posted so ARROGANTLY. > > > > > > > > LETS BREATH FREE now AND SEE LATER. > > > > > > > > Prashant kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:27:36 PM > > > > Re: ThanQ all members, sunil too 21/5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > > > May be u know better . > > > > > > > > what i was concerned is u know better ,many times i discussed with > u > > > in > > > > offline too . > > > > > > > > astrology and astrologers shud prevail in astro grps not the > > > > queriests or fake ids . > > > > > > > > They came only to get free readings ,so how can be a part of us . > > > > > > > > so u can take ur own time . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sunil Nair ji > > > > > > > > > > I have replied in my 1st mail to u and now in the group, lets > wait > > > and > > > > see for some time lets breath some fresh air, and if we see > positive > > > > currents from them we can think them > > > > > > > > > > if u have seen vedic astrology mails till the AXE came onthem > all > > of > > > > them came here too. I and jyotish group moderator were early to > stop > > > the > > > > rot, I took his model as a guide as I am new to this role/ I lke > > wendy > > > > approach too. > > > > > > > > > > Prashant kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:47:10 AM > > > > > Re: ThanQ all members, sunil too 21/5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear prashanth ji , > > > > > > > > > > i hope u will take intitiativ to bring back all astrologers even > > > those > > > > > who got banned by the attack of fake id ,if astrologer was using > > > fake > > > > id > > > > > only that will get banned .So who ever replying to this > attackers > > > > > because of lack of moderation ,how can we blaime them ,as he > dont > > > > resort > > > > > to fake id to answer ,those elements . > > > > > > > > > > Then there is strong moderation so i hope no fights will come > back > > > in > > > > > this august forum . > > > > > > > > > > here only astrology and astrologers shud b important and no ill > > > > feeling > > > > > to any one . > > > > > > > > > > i hope u will raise to the situation and do the neccessary > action > > > > which > > > > > is in ur hand . > > > > > > > > > > Let us forget and forgiv each other ,atleast its what sani in > leo > > > > > demands . > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > , " YOUR ONLINE > > ASTROLOGER " > > > > > gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil, Members > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members I thank u all for the greetings and as said in my > > 1st > > > > > > message on this subject it is hard and also appear to be > > neutral, > > > > > which > > > > > > I will be I have already given u some examples in the same > mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will appreciate any constructive criticisms from any quarter > > any > > > > age > > > > > > group we must learn from our failures and no one is big or > > small. > > > > > > > > > > > > IT IS ALWAYS WHAT IS RIGHT not who is RIGHT., > > > > > > > > > > > > and probably dharmveer did sum it better that the evil is > > defeated > > > > not > > > > > > people here > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried my best to patch up with them from the day issues > > > > started > > > > > > rising nothing has changed one bit > > > > > > > > > > > > it is strange that anyone an have so many people against them > > and > > > > > blame > > > > > > others for it > > > > > > > > > > > > in my early days in this group I had differences perceived by > > some > > > > > > members and with just a mail or two got resolved and are v > good > > > > > friends > > > > > > till now. this is how a healthy society evolves. none of us > are > > > > > perfect > > > > > > we evolve step by step till our last breath. > > > > > > > > > > > > about sunil Nair feeling not mentioned in any ref in the group > > > that > > > > I > > > > > > had said so far is obvious not my fault, whenever I tried to > > seek > > > > > > support from him on mud slinging and character assassination > > > through > > > > > > false hood by the GROUPS DESTRUCTION GANG, i was left in the > > > lurch, > > > > in > > > > > > VA group when lucy [the same gang] targeted me, he was not > > neutral > > > > > > either in his comments on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > this gang when a new member appeared or a old one dormant and > > > > replied > > > > > to > > > > > > a post was always questioned on his/her CONTRIBUTION, ADDRESS, > > > > > LOCATION > > > > > > CONTACT PHONE nos in a derogatory manner, why the same yard > > stick > > > to > > > > > > Lucy, jeevan gupta was not asked? > > > > > > > > > > > > I will take every step to be free and fair to all and I have > > also > > > > said > > > > > I > > > > > > am a moderator since Apr 28 U CAN SEE THE way I have > approached > > > it, > > > > in > > > > > > spite of time constraints for some more weeks am doing what is > > > best > > > > > for > > > > > > this group a leader once in its own right. > > > > > > > > > > > > topics used to discussed more freely without fear of being > > > > ridiculed, > > > > > > many people read a single querrent but this gang felt a GROUP > is > > a > > > > > free > > > > > > YELLOW PAGES directory and each can corner a clientile, not > fair > > > for > > > > > > thesubject or themselves as if our work attracts anyone for > more > > > > > > detailed readings in private and pay they are fre to enjoy it, > > in > > > a > > > > > > group where we share and exchange views and also help the > native > > > we > > > > > > surely enhance the value of the subject more than individuals. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW dipika bangalore a fake ID of the same lot did list out > > their > > > > fake > > > > > > ID's by mistake so we now know who is behind it just trying to > > > > appear > > > > > > different has left no one surprised. > > > > > > > > > > > > At least from a few months want the gang's post out of here > and > > > when > > > > > > they reform will surely let them in, right now I have put > their > > > > posts > > > > > to > > > > > > moderation, I don't believe in banning anyone. and to this > date > > > > > nothing > > > > > > good has come from them even when it was not anounced that I > am > > > > > > moderating this group the no of hate mails and soam is saved > > from > > > u > > > > > all > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > LET THERE BY JYOTI AND JYOTISH AROUND US > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear memebrs , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i also congratulate mr >prashnath kumar on his new > assignment > > > > > > ,but > > > > > > > being sycophants means u need not get best readings which ny > > > frnd > > > > > > > mr.prashant kumar also will vouch for it he blv in karma and > > its > > > > > after > > > > > > > effects . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even he in his last messges never bother to remebr me as i > > never > > > > may > > > > > > be > > > > > > > part of this free reading exersices as i hav lot work which > is > > > > > beyond > > > > > > a > > > > > > > human being can take up and unlike other business i cannot > > > > deligate > > > > > my > > > > > > > authority .At least i hav to be true to my paid customers .I > > > dont > > > > > blv > > > > > > in > > > > > > > free astrology unless the person is in real trouble and cant > > pay > > > u > > > > > > > .other wise astrolofy is a game between ur own karma and > free > > > will > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so think wat u want and think wat u need . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a suggestion frm an astrologer who dont know or not > interested > > > in > > > > > much > > > > > > > game on going in astro grps .even i find it difficult > to > > > > > answer > > > > > > > the gueniune questions as we dont know or even our prashna > is > > > > > > indicating > > > > > > > some sort of game in asking the questions and it may some > > > > > astrologers > > > > > > > fake id or some astrologers wanted a reading to be sale it > for > > a > > > > > price > > > > > > > .All this fake ids . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And funny thing is that most of the grp owners they dont put > > > > > > modrations > > > > > > > effectiv and when the astrologer being attacked and finaly > he > > > > resort > > > > > > to > > > > > > > do a reply with his own id .then that is the last part in > this > > > > game > > > > > > > .And grp owners who come out and axe both this id and fake > ids > > > in > > > > > case > > > > > > > of any problems as they feel that their work is just axe > both > > > > > parties > > > > > > > .So their work is done and other aims acheived .The fool > > stupid > > > > > > > astrologer who were sincere is axed and humiliated and other > > can > > > > > shout > > > > > > > he he ask for money as he needs to support his family . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sp i expect Mr >prashanth kumar may not b such moderator . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even i find many rejoice the fall of some one ,But as an > > > > astrologer > > > > > > and > > > > > > > has the feeling of fellow memebrs i dont feels so .if > > > astrologers > > > > > who > > > > > > > says they r dealing with karmic things if they cant forget > and > > > > > forgiv > > > > > > > other than than falls fand prasie of sycophantswhose only > aim > > is > > > > > free > > > > > > > astrology ,i hav nothing to say ,wat U sow and u will > harvest > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i belong to those stupid madrasi who pays his astrologer > > and > > > > dont > > > > > > > want any rina bandan in this birth or future birth .let us > > > forget > > > > > what > > > > > > > rishis told us as its not convenient both for free mongers > and > > > > > > > astrologers who look for some cleints without learning their > > > > basics > > > > > > > correct . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , A Jaswani > > a_jaswani@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > > > > > Done!!! whatever I suggested in my previous message. > > > > > > > > Congratulations Mr Prashant. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ashok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link 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