Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 dear friends indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. -----quote-------- To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to come. ------unquote----- while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity to astrology and astrologers! with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 why my sixth sense tell me who the bearded astrologer can be? panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: dear friends indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. -----quote-------- To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to come. ------unquote----- while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity to astrology and astrologers! with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Dear Brother, Strange are the ways of Politics and politicians. Elections and Trust votes are earned using untrustworthy means,by corrrupt people for unworthy people. The P.M has proved Advani's point that a person of high integrity is indeed a weak perosn to permit such actions , just to remain in Power. You have a consortium of crooks and murderers running this country,from outside jails and inside too. manipulating a 'Decent " P.M. The Chanakya is ofcourse AMAR Singh, may his tribe increase.Is it not a coincidence that Chanakya was in US at a very convenient time.Wonder if he met George Bush or Obama!! The best speech was of course from Lalu.It is " Must Read' for all aspiring politicians. Regards, Satish vedic astrology , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-------- > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote----- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Dea Shri Sastr Garu, namskarams.A reference to Astrologers in Parliament though a feather in cap to this field. yet if we have to stand to the expectations of multitudes,pavement approaches,foretelling through parrots and depending only on eulogisers can not work. Advani's apparoach to grab the seat of prime Minister makes him to loose his cool.After all ambition is one thing and fulfilling the wish is other thing for which you need all elements. Manmohan ji graduated in Economics and worked for the cause of Nation.He knows rewards will come through his selfless approach.he is just simple person carrying congress falg.never wish to lead his party.Advani as head of the party depended on Astrologers and attained it couple of time.Now we need to really find whetehr the possibility at his doorstep in the next Election slated in Nov2009.By that time jupiter moves to capricorn sign and saturn rasi lord will be 6/8 eqation with ketu.So his plans are likely help him.Let Astrologers too be cool to anlyse and convey how good he stands next time regards vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 7/22/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:55 AM dear friends indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. -----quote-- ------ To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to come. ------unquote- ---- while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity to astrology and astrologers! with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Correct. Do we have a correct Birth time for India? Should be declaration time, about 12:01AM on Aug 15th, 1947 by Lord Mountbatten. (They say it was deliberate to make sure we dont celebrate our Independence day with Pakistan). Not sure, whether there are any signings done, other than Nehru signing on as PM. That could be 12.30 AM or so. If so, Mars is sitting in the second house, and indicates that, we will play second fiddle to a strong ruler (Lagna with Sun & Mercury - indicates about a loyal follower). Sun and Rahu should help India to become a Superpower, and that is in 2010 or 2047. Definitely this new association is going to be beneficial for us. Astro pundits, please post inputs. Thanks. Regards Ramesh vedic astrology , Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > why my sixth sense tell me who the bearded astrologer can be? > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-------- > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote----- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 dear krsihnan garu during medieval days, kings used to have raja (asthana) jyotishacharyas in the king's court who used to advise the kings of the good and bad muhurtas and also upayas like, yagams, homams, danams etc. for the wellbeing of the country as well as the king. since kingdoms are gone and democracy prevails, each king (read politicans) has his own astrologers and then some passing commenting astrologers in tv studios and newspapers who write on all. few years ago when chandrababu naidu was chief minister of andhra, his astrologer suggested that the present timing is good for winning and if he goes to polls as per schedule after one year, he would lose. blindly believeing his astrologer, babu called for polls, an year earlier and lost miserably so much so that he could not win even one third of the seats. hence manmohans' advise to change astrologers applies to babu as well. similar astrologers are forcing cineactor chiranjeevi to postpone by several months to announce his entry into politics. in freedom struggle, many true genuine freedom fighters joined politics to serve the country without consulting astrologers and all of them are reverred and remembered both by the government and the country even today. correlating astrology to mythology, i dare say that since the dharma of the land is in peril (since the king of the land disowns lord rama and calls him a myth one day and the next day he says that he finds mention in some vernacular version of a ramayana where rama himself damaged the bridge), protectors of dharma will romp to power in the next election viz. bjp winning the election and coming to power. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dea Shri Sastr Garu, > namskarams.A reference to Astrologers in Parliament though a feather in cap to this field. > yet if we have to stand to the expectations of multitudes,pavement approaches,foretelling through parrots and depending only on eulogisers can not work. > Advani's apparoach to grab the seat of prime Minister makes him to loose his cool.After all ambition is one thing and fulfilling the wish is other thing for which you need all elements. > Manmohan ji graduated in Economics and worked for the cause of Nation.He knows rewards will come through his selfless approach.he is just simple person carrying congress falg.never wish to lead his party.Advani as head of the party depended on Astrologers and attained it couple of time.Now we need to really find whetehr the possibility at his doorstep in the next Election slated in Nov2009.By that time jupiter moves to capricorn sign and saturn rasi lord will be 6/8 eqation with ketu.So his plans are likely help him.Let Astrologers too be cool to anlyse and convey how good he stands next time > regards > vrkrishnan > > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! > > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:55 AM dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-- ------ > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote- ---- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear Shri Sastry Garu, True that protectors of dharma in Democracy have no limit not only to get advice on Astrology on any subject.So the interpretations of planets too keeping changing only to suit to the so called protectors of Dharma. Dharma is basic to every one and is our wisdom how low or high with reference to holding of public positions. Every one of us in our way serving the universe and let it be as humble as possible.But then the " wish to win " was the struggles heard only between brothers in Mahabharata.That war was termed as Kurukshtra as the war took place in that Kingdom. Now too the war is between brothers only sharing values of democracy but the to decide their own fate but not of the people as recently reflected in the august house named as Parliament. No doubt Astrologers competent to advice the fate of Individuals in politics are welcome.otherwise how one could have thought of Deva Gouda as PM and Abdul kalam as President. Mostly these two great personalities got through their Bhagya .But now we see leaders want to engineer their bhagya for posting victories in elections.If it is money then money too is an element which can never be ingnored.and never sour to the human palates. we have people to advice what I wish and how one can attain.Here Dharma and Adharma goes into back seat.But if we back to centuries in the Royal Court,the advice was in righteous manner and got gifts too for their intellect and wisdon for their timely advice. regards krishnan --- On Sat, 7/26/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! Saturday, July 26, 2008, 10:33 PM dear krsihnan garu during medieval days, kings used to have raja (asthana) jyotishacharyas in the king's court who used to advise the kings of the good and bad muhurtas and also upayas like, yagams, homams, danams etc. for the wellbeing of the country as well as the king. since kingdoms are gone and democracy prevails, each king (read politicans) has his own astrologers and then some passing commenting astrologers in tv studios and newspapers who write on all. few years ago when chandrababu naidu was chief minister of andhra, his astrologer suggested that the present timing is good for winning and if he goes to polls as per schedule after one year, he would lose. blindly believeing his astrologer, babu called for polls, an year earlier and lost miserably so much so that he could not win even one third of the seats. hence manmohans' advise to change astrologers applies to babu as well. similar astrologers are forcing cineactor chiranjeevi to postpone by several months to announce his entry into politics. in freedom struggle, many true genuine freedom fighters joined politics to serve the country without consulting astrologers and all of them are reverred and remembered both by the government and the country even today. correlating astrology to mythology, i dare say that since the dharma of the land is in peril (since the king of the land disowns lord rama and calls him a myth one day and the next day he says that he finds mention in some vernacular version of a ramayana where rama himself damaged the bridge), protectors of dharma will romp to power in the next election viz. bjp winning the election and coming to power. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dea Shri Sastr Garu, > namskarams.A reference to Astrologers in Parliament though a feather in cap to this field. > yet if we have to stand to the expectations of multitudes,pavement approaches,foretell ing through parrots and depending only on eulogisers can not work. > Advani's apparoach to grab the seat of prime Minister makes him to loose his cool.After all ambition is one thing and fulfilling the wish is other thing for which you need all elements. > Manmohan ji graduated in Economics and worked for the cause of Nation.He knows rewards will come through his selfless approach.he is just simple person carrying congress falg.never wish to lead his party.Advani as head of the party depended on Astrologers and attained it couple of time.Now we need to really find whetehr the possibility at his doorstep in the next Election slated in Nov2009.By that time jupiter moves to capricorn sign and saturn rasi lord will be 6/8 eqation with ketu.So his plans are likely help him.Let Astrologers too be cool to anlyse and convey how good he stands next time > regards > vrkrishnan > > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! > > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:55 AM dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-- ------ > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote- ---- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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