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Sir,

 

Can you please give more details. How does it is going to effect an individual.

How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa yoga. Is it going to effect

every individual or only those who had Kala Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I

request you as well as any other member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise.

If remedies are possible for star wise its better.

 

Best Regards

Jagan

 

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m wrote:

 

arwen610m <arwen610m

Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

 

All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

 

OM TAT SAT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi respected members,

 

Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is it due to

killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of brahman shaapa in past

birth?

 

 

Thanks & Regards,

Prasad A. Pole

------

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao

 

Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

 

Sir,

 

Can you please give more details. How does it is going to effect an individual.

How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa yoga. Is it going to effect

every individual or only those who had Kala Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I

request you as well as any other member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise.

If remedies are possible for star wise its better.

 

Best Regards

Jagan

 

--- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

 

arwen610m <arwen610m >

Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

 

Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

 

All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

 

OM TAT SAT

 

 

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Ah KSY again!

 

My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and not

ARISHTA?

 

Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore churning

the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?) and

then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all that

and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive statement!

> and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the gods

and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and express

both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

 

The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing of

the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life into

the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun and

the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of such

LIFE energy.

 

Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

Harvest!

 

I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient and

modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or remote:

 

Sun = creator - <?>

Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

 

....

 

 

 

, Prasad P <prasadpole

wrote:

>

> Hi respected members,

>

> Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is it

due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of brahman

shaapa in past birth?

>

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Prasad A. Pole

> --

----

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao

>

> Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

>

> Sir,

>

> Can you please give more details. How does it is going to effect an

individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa yoga.

Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any other

member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

possible for star wise its better.

>

> Best Regards

> Jagan

>

> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

>

> arwen610m <arwen610m >

> Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

>

> Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

>

> All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

>

> OM TAT SAT

>

>

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Sir,

Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens about Kalsarpa yoga

are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes one with head and

the other with tail.These nodes have not been accorded any status in Royal

Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called as shadow planets.

Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects as these two

planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver Sani happens to energy taker

and conseravator.

Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the Prime

Planet:Sun,the Royal King

Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers by saying that

whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and act like the lords of these

houses.

Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

Creator: LordBrahma

 Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

Destroyer:Lord Shiva

and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be supernatural

elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces and Dikpalakas to recreate

and give an environment to live and lead.

Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces that safeguards one

and all of us.

This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga) live to think more

of likely problems that can be caused only to find themselves and anxious

spending sleepless nights.So we surely have the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk

endlessly and to divest enrgies.

vrkrishnan 

 

 

--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah KSY again!

 

My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and not

ARISHTA?

 

Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore churning

the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?) and

then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all that

and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive statement!

> and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the gods

and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and express

both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

 

The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing of

the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life into

the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun and

the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of such

LIFE energy.

 

Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

Harvest!

 

I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient and

modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or remote:

 

Sun = creator - <?>

Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

 

....

 

, Prasad P <prasadpole@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Hi respected members,

>

> Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is it

due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of brahman

shaapa in past birth?

>

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Prasad A. Pole

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

----

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao

>

> Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

>

> Sir,

>

> Can you please give more details. How does it is going to effect an

individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa yoga.

Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any other

member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

possible for star wise its better.

>

> Best Regards

> Jagan

>

> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

>

> arwen610m <arwen610m >

> Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

>

> Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

>

> All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

>

> OM TAT SAT

>

>

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Dear Krishnanji

 

Wonderful sharing! I always liked your sharings even when back then I

thought you were Hemant-da posting under a nom-de-plume!

 

Jyotish has *lately* been under a lot of turmoil, inspection,

reorganizing, restructuring and so on ...

 

And yet after all speeches and so on have been made and MEA CULPA

AUSSI - as Gandhiji said, " We make these speeches for a handful of

lawyers in Delhi ... etc " -- " We astrologers make these postings for

a bunch of astrophiles -- many not even astrologers! " while the LARGE

MAJORITY of nativities remain untouched!

 

ALL they need and seek are a reading and a solution, if there is one!

They care not one whit about KSY or its purity or whether it is

legitimate ((whatever that means!) or venus saturn dashas which MANY

individuals go through without any SENSATIONAL or life-changing

experience if one examines seriously, UTTARKALAMRITA notwithstanding

that some astrologers love to quote from without mentioning the

source!

 

Let us all focus on those who we set out to help or why else are we

spending so much time and our lifetimes driven by this passion known

as astrology?

 

Regards!

 

RR

 

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens about

Kalsarpa yoga are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

> Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes one

with head and the other with tail.These nodes have not been accorded

any status in Royal Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called as

shadow planets.

> Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects as

these two planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver Sani

happens to energy taker and conseravator.

> Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the Prime

Planet:Sun,the Royal King

> Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers by

saying that whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and act

like the lords of these houses.

> Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

> Creator: LordBrahma

>  Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

> Destroyer:Lord Shiva

> and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be

supernatural elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces and

Dikpalakas to recreate and give an environment to live and lead.

> Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces that

safeguards one and all of us.

> This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga) live to

think more of likely problems that can be caused only to find

themselves and anxious spending sleepless nights.So we surely have

the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk endlessly and to divest enrgies.

> vrkrishnan 

>

>

> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

Ah KSY again!

>

> My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

> TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and

not

> ARISHTA?

>

> Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

> allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore

churning

> the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?)

and

> then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all that

> and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive

statement!

> > and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

> with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the gods

> and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and express

> both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

>

> The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

> that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing of

> the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

> reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life into

> the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun and

> the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of

such

> LIFE energy.

>

> Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

> sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

> Harvest!

>

> I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient

and

> modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or remote:

>

> Sun = creator - <?>

> Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

> Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

>

> ...

>

> , Prasad P

<prasadpole@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi respected members,

> >

> > Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is

it

> due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of brahman

> shaapa in past birth?

> >

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Prasad A. Pole

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> ----

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao@>

> >

> > Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > Can you please give more details. How does it is going to effect

an

> individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa

yoga.

> Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

> Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any other

> member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

> possible for star wise its better.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Jagan

> >

> > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

> >

> > arwen610m <arwen610m >

> > Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

> >

> > Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> > December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

> >

> > All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

> >

> > OM TAT SAT

> >

> >

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Dear Shri Rohini da,

The kind of  regard Astrology enjoyed was " mother of all sciences " and " Science

of Light "

Today as a predictive tool in the hands of common out look is undergoing re

engineering and restructuring only to find means to resolve complex human

problems.Some of the problems are certainly arising out of positions of

Planets.In the case of rahu_ketu known as dreaded combination and termed as

Kalasarpa yoga needs to be understood in terms of Classicals. 

Kala sarpa Yoga too " involves turmoil,inspection,reorganising and restructuring

as the phenomenon so much apprehended and given several names based on the axis

of involvement of Rahu/Ketu.certainly classics have not encouraged such bleak

and unwarrented consequences in any one's life except in case the lagna is

weaker than sunlagna.Chandra lagna if holding strength the consequences could be

over come.I know I was one who was apprehended of Kalsarpa yoga by an

Astrolger.So iad observed 56 Mondays as Vrat days and performed abhishekam to

Lord Shiva.Visited too important known temple includinig Vaidheeswaran Koil

India.But then the end result was not so different than was thought anticipated

due to the following:

Struggles in Life as Challenges are great and if they are encounterd it is to

restructure onself and reinvent life.

Jyotish no doubt is under stress  as the Vedic importance given to it is no more

relevant as it is meant for all sundries and make ego satisfied .

Also several platforms that have sprung up in the electronic media bringing out

sevral predictive technics.

Planets and stars in the background " exerting their influnces collectively and

Individually.Thes influences effect humanity physically,biologically and

psychologically.

As planets assigned by the Nature different roles, every year too perform task

as assigned.In the solar year(relevant to 2008-09),satrun turns people to

unrighteous deeds and Sun a King normally, got down to level of Minsiter to

create difference of opinions,strife and among rulers 

regards

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Sat, 7/26/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Saturday, July 26, 2008, 1:11 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishnanji

 

Wonderful sharing! I always liked your sharings even when back then I

thought you were Hemant-da posting under a nom-de-plume!

 

Jyotish has *lately* been under a lot of turmoil, inspection,

reorganizing, restructuring and so on ...

 

And yet after all speeches and so on have been made and MEA CULPA

AUSSI - as Gandhiji said, " We make these speeches for a handful of

lawyers in Delhi ... etc " -- " We astrologers make these postings for

a bunch of astrophiles -- many not even astrologers! " while the LARGE

MAJORITY of nativities remain untouched!

 

ALL they need and seek are a reading and a solution, if there is one!

They care not one whit about KSY or its purity or whether it is

legitimate ((whatever that means!) or venus saturn dashas which MANY

individuals go through without any SENSATIONAL or life-changing

experience if one examines seriously, UTTARKALAMRITA notwithstanding

that some astrologers love to quote from without mentioning the

source!

 

Let us all focus on those who we set out to help or why else are we

spending so much time and our lifetimes driven by this passion known

as astrology?

 

Regards!

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Sir,

> Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens about

Kalsarpa yoga are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

> Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes one

with head and the other with tail.These nodes have not been accorded

any status in Royal Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called as

shadow planets.

> Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects as

these two planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver Sani

happens to energy taker and conseravator.

> Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the Prime

Planet:Sun,the Royal King

> Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers by

saying that whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and act

like the lords of these houses.

> Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

> Creator: LordBrahma

>  Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

> Destroyer:Lord Shiva

> and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be

supernatural elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces and

Dikpalakas to recreate and give an environment to live and lead.

> Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces that

safeguards one and all of us.

> This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga) live to

think more of likely problems that can be caused only to find

themselves and anxious spending sleepless nights.So we surely have

the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk endlessly and to divest enrgies.

> vrkrishnan 

>

>

> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

Ah KSY again!

>

> My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

> TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and

not

> ARISHTA?

>

> Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

> allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore

churning

> the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?)

and

> then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all that

> and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive

statement!

> > and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

> with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the gods

> and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and express

> both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

>

> The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

> that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing of

> the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

> reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life into

> the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun and

> the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of

such

> LIFE energy.

>

> Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

> sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

> Harvest!

>

> I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient

and

> modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or remote:

>

> Sun = creator - <?>

> Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

> Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

>

> ...

>

> , Prasad P

<prasadpole@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi respected members,

> >

> > Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is

it

> due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of brahman

> shaapa in past birth?

> >

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Prasad A. Pole

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> ----

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao@>

> >

> > Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > Can you please give more details. How does it is going to effect

an

> individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa

yoga.

> Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

> Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any other

> member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

> possible for star wise its better.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Jagan

> >

> > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

> >

> > arwen610m <arwen610m >

> > Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

> >

> > Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> > December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

> >

> > All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

> >

> > OM TAT SAT

> >

> >

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Maybe there was a typo introduced over the passage of time and the

term should have been Kal(a) S(h)rapa!

 

Only those with KSY would know and may be able to report about

the " desynchronization " as far as 'TIME MANAGMENT' goes in their

lives...

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini da,

> The kind of  regard Astrology enjoyed was " mother of all

sciences " and " Science of Light "

> Today as a predictive tool in the hands of common out look is

undergoing re engineering and restructuring only to find means to

resolve complex human problems.Some of the problems are certainly

arising out of positions of Planets.In the case of rahu_ketu known as

dreaded combination and termed as Kalasarpa yoga needs to be

understood in terms of Classicals. 

> Kala sarpa Yoga too " involves turmoil,inspection,reorganising and

restructuring as the phenomenon so much apprehended and given several

names based on the axis of involvement of Rahu/Ketu.certainly

classics have not encouraged such bleak and unwarrented consequences

in any one's life except in case the lagna is weaker than

sunlagna.Chandra lagna if holding strength the consequences could be

over come.I know I was one who was apprehended of Kalsarpa yoga by an

Astrolger.So iad observed 56 Mondays as Vrat days and performed

abhishekam to Lord Shiva.Visited too important known temple

includinig Vaidheeswaran Koil India.But then the end result was not

so different than was thought anticipated due to the following:

> Struggles in Life as Challenges are great and if they are

encounterd it is to restructure onself and reinvent life.

> Jyotish no doubt is under stress  as the Vedic importance given to

it is no more relevant as it is meant for all sundries and make ego

satisfied .

> Also several platforms that have sprung up in the electronic media

bringing out sevral predictive technics.

> Planets and stars in the background " exerting their influnces

collectively and Individually.Thes influences effect humanity

physically,biologically and psychologically.

> As planets assigned by the Nature different roles, every year too

perform task as assigned.In the solar year(relevant to 2008-

09),satrun turns people to unrighteous deeds and Sun a King normally,

got down to level of Minsiter to create difference of opinions,strife

and among rulers 

> regards

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Saturday, July 26, 2008, 1:11 AM

Dear Krishnanji

>

> Wonderful sharing! I always liked your sharings even when back then

I

> thought you were Hemant-da posting under a nom-de-plume!

>

> Jyotish has *lately* been under a lot of turmoil, inspection,

> reorganizing, restructuring and so on ...

>

> And yet after all speeches and so on have been made and MEA CULPA

> AUSSI - as Gandhiji said, " We make these speeches for a handful of

> lawyers in Delhi ... etc " -- " We astrologers make these postings

for

> a bunch of astrophiles -- many not even astrologers! " while the

LARGE

> MAJORITY of nativities remain untouched!

>

> ALL they need and seek are a reading and a solution, if there is

one!

> They care not one whit about KSY or its purity or whether it is

> legitimate ((whatever that means!) or venus saturn dashas which

MANY

> individuals go through without any SENSATIONAL or life-changing

> experience if one examines seriously, UTTARKALAMRITA

notwithstanding

> that some astrologers love to quote from without mentioning the

> source!

>

> Let us all focus on those who we set out to help or why else are we

> spending so much time and our lifetimes driven by this passion

known

> as astrology?

>

> Regards!

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> > Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens

about

> Kalsarpa yoga are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

> > Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes

one

> with head and the other with tail.These nodes have not been

accorded

> any status in Royal Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called

as

> shadow planets.

> > Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects as

> these two planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver Sani

> happens to energy taker and conseravator.

> > Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the

Prime

> Planet:Sun,the Royal King

> > Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers

by

> saying that whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and

act

> like the lords of these houses.

> > Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

> > Creator: LordBrahma

> >  Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

> > Destroyer:Lord Shiva

> > and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be

> supernatural elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces and

> Dikpalakas to recreate and give an environment to live and lead.

> > Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces that

> safeguards one and all of us.

> > This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga) live

to

> think more of likely problems that can be caused only to find

> themselves and anxious spending sleepless nights.So we surely have

> the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk endlessly and to divest enrgies.

> > vrkrishnan 

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ah KSY again!

> >

> > My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

> > TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and

> not

> > ARISHTA?

> >

> > Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

> > allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore

> churning

> > the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?)

> and

> > then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all

that

> > and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive

> statement!

> > > and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

> > with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the

gods

> > and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and

express

> > both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

> >

> > The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

> > that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing

of

> > the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

> > reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life

into

> > the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun

and

> > the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of

> such

> > LIFE energy.

> >

> > Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

> > sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

> > Harvest!

> >

> > I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient

> and

> > modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or

remote:

> >

> > Sun = creator - <?>

> > Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

> > Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

> >

> > ...

> >

> > , Prasad P

> <prasadpole@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi respected members,

> > >

> > > Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is

> it

> > due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of

brahman

> > shaapa in past birth?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Prasad A. Pole

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > ----

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao@>

> > >

> > > Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> > > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Can you please give more details. How does it is going to

effect

> an

> > individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa

> yoga.

> > Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

> > Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any

other

> > member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

> > possible for star wise its better.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Jagan

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

> > >

> > > arwen610m <arwen610m >

> > > Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > > Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

> > >

> > > Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> > > December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

> > >

> > > All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

> > >

> > > OM TAT SAT

> > >

> > >

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Dear Astrologers,

 

Can any one of you describe various yogas and dasas in astrology and its

effects. so that the common readers can have basic knowledge.

 

thanks in advance...

 

Arun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 27/7/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Sunday, 27 July, 2008, 11:12 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe there was a typo introduced over the passage of time and the

term should have been Kal(a) S(h)rapa!

 

Only those with KSY would know and may be able to report about

the " desynchronization " as far as 'TIME MANAGMENT' goes in their

lives...

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini da,

> The kind of  regard Astrology enjoyed was " mother of all

sciences " and " Science of Light "

> Today as a predictive tool in the hands of common out look is

undergoing re engineering and restructuring only to find means to

resolve complex human problems.Some of the problems are certainly

arising out of positions of Planets.In the case of rahu_ketu known as

dreaded combination and termed as Kalasarpa yoga needs to be

understood in terms of Classicals. 

> Kala sarpa Yoga too " involves turmoil,inspection, reorganising and

restructuring as the phenomenon so much apprehended and given several

names based on the axis of involvement of Rahu/Ketu.certainly

classics have not encouraged such bleak and unwarrented consequences

in any one's life except in case the lagna is weaker than

sunlagna.Chandra lagna if holding strength the consequences could be

over come.I know I was one who was apprehended of Kalsarpa yoga by an

Astrolger.So iad observed 56 Mondays as Vrat days and performed

abhishekam to Lord Shiva.Visited too important known temple

includinig Vaidheeswaran Koil India.But then the end result was not

so different than was thought anticipated due to the following:

> Struggles in Life as Challenges are great and if they are

encounterd it is to restructure onself and reinvent life.

> Jyotish no doubt is under stress  as the Vedic importance given to

it is no more relevant as it is meant for all sundries and make ego

satisfied .

> Also several platforms that have sprung up in the electronic media

bringing out sevral predictive technics.

> Planets and stars in the background " exerting their influnces

collectively and Individually. Thes influences effect humanity

physically,biologic ally and psychologically.

> As planets assigned by the Nature different roles, every year too

perform task as assigned.In the solar year(relevant to 2008-

09),satrun turns people to unrighteous deeds and Sun a King normally,

got down to level of Minsiter to create difference of opinions,strife

and among rulers 

> regards

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Saturday, July 26, 2008, 1:11 AM

Dear Krishnanji

>

> Wonderful sharing! I always liked your sharings even when back then

I

> thought you were Hemant-da posting under a nom-de-plume!

>

> Jyotish has *lately* been under a lot of turmoil, inspection,

> reorganizing, restructuring and so on ...

>

> And yet after all speeches and so on have been made and MEA CULPA

> AUSSI - as Gandhiji said, " We make these speeches for a handful of

> lawyers in Delhi ... etc " -- " We astrologers make these postings

for

> a bunch of astrophiles -- many not even astrologers! " while the

LARGE

> MAJORITY of nativities remain untouched!

>

> ALL they need and seek are a reading and a solution, if there is

one!

> They care not one whit about KSY or its purity or whether it is

> legitimate ((whatever that means!) or venus saturn dashas which

MANY

> individuals go through without any SENSATIONAL or life-changing

> experience if one examines seriously, UTTARKALAMRITA

notwithstanding

> that some astrologers love to quote from without mentioning the

> source!

>

> Let us all focus on those who we set out to help or why else are we

> spending so much time and our lifetimes driven by this passion

known

> as astrology?

>

> Regards!

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> > Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens

about

> Kalsarpa yoga are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

> > Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes

one

> with head and the other with tail.These nodes have not been

accorded

> any status in Royal Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called

as

> shadow planets.

> > Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects as

> these two planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver Sani

> happens to energy taker and conseravator.

> > Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the

Prime

> Planet:Sun,the Royal King

> > Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers

by

> saying that whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and

act

> like the lords of these houses.

> > Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

> > Creator: LordBrahma

> >  Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

> > Destroyer:Lord Shiva

> > and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be

> supernatural elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces and

> Dikpalakas to recreate and give an environment to live and lead.

> > Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces that

> safeguards one and all of us.

> > This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga) live

to

> think more of likely problems that can be caused only to find

> themselves and anxious spending sleepless nights.So we surely have

> the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk endlessly and to divest enrgies.

> > vrkrishnan 

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ah KSY again!

> >

> > My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

> > TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and

> not

> > ARISHTA?

> >

> > Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

> > allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore

> churning

> > the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?)

> and

> > then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all

that

> > and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive

> statement!

> > > and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

> > with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the

gods

> > and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and

express

> > both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

> >

> > The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

> > that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing

of

> > the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

> > reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life

into

> > the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun

and

> > the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of

> such

> > LIFE energy.

> >

> > Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

> > sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

> > Harvest!

> >

> > I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient

> and

> > modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or

remote:

> >

> > Sun = creator - <?>

> > Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

> > Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

> >

> > ...

> >

> > , Prasad P

> <prasadpole@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi respected members,

> > >

> > > Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is

> it

> > due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of

brahman

> > shaapa in past birth?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Prasad A. Pole

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > ----

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao@>

> > >

> > > Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> > > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Can you please give more details. How does it is going to

effect

> an

> > individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa

> yoga.

> > Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

> > Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any

other

> > member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

> > possible for star wise its better.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Jagan

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

> > >

> > > arwen610m <arwen610m >

> > > Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > > Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

> > >

> > > Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> > > December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

> > >

> > > All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

> > >

> > > OM TAT SAT

> > >

> > >

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Dear Friend,

Honestly yogas basically are attributed through the luminaries namely SUN and

MOON.there are other yogas that come through benific palcements of planets.where

as dasa systems too have relation to our approach to analyse the chart/janma

patri.But as a general rule we give siginificance to Vimshottary dasa.All the

nine planets have an order in which they evolve and are fixed terms.we have

others like rasi dasa,narayana dasa and Ashtottari dasa.Some of these issues

have been very well brought ou for study in our jyotish vidya site for

reference.

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Sun, 7/27/08, arun4u@riyadh <vgtarun wrote:

 

arun4u@riyadh <vgtarun

Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Sunday, July 27, 2008, 3:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Astrologers,

 

Can any one of you describe various yogas and dasas in astrology and its

effects. so that the common readers can have basic knowledge.

 

thanks in advance...

 

Arun

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 27/7/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

 

Sunday, 27 July, 2008, 11:12 AM

 

Maybe there was a typo introduced over the passage of time and the

term should have been Kal(a) S(h)rapa!

 

Only those with KSY would know and may be able to report about

the " desynchronization " as far as 'TIME MANAGMENT' goes in their

lives...

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini da,

> The kind of  regard Astrology enjoyed was " mother of all

sciences " and " Science of Light "

> Today as a predictive tool in the hands of common out look is

undergoing re engineering and restructuring only to find means to

resolve complex human problems.Some of the problems are certainly

arising out of positions of Planets.In the case of rahu_ketu known as

dreaded combination and termed as Kalasarpa yoga needs to be

understood in terms of Classicals. 

> Kala sarpa Yoga too " involves turmoil,inspection, reorganising and

restructuring as the phenomenon so much apprehended and given several

names based on the axis of involvement of Rahu/Ketu.certainly

classics have not encouraged such bleak and unwarrented consequences

in any one's life except in case the lagna is weaker than

sunlagna.Chandra lagna if holding strength the consequences could be

over come.I know I was one who was apprehended of Kalsarpa yoga by an

Astrolger.So iad observed 56 Mondays as Vrat days and performed

abhishekam to Lord Shiva.Visited too important known temple

includinig Vaidheeswaran Koil India.But then the end result was not

so different than was thought anticipated due to the following:

> Struggles in Life as Challenges are great and if they are

encounterd it is to restructure onself and reinvent life.

> Jyotish no doubt is under stress  as the Vedic importance given to

it is no more relevant as it is meant for all sundries and make ego

satisfied .

> Also several platforms that have sprung up in the electronic media

bringing out sevral predictive technics.

> Planets and stars in the background " exerting their influnces

collectively and Individually. Thes influences effect humanity

physically,biologic ally and psychologically.

> As planets assigned by the Nature different roles, every year too

perform task as assigned.In the solar year(relevant to 2008-

09),satrun turns people to unrighteous deeds and Sun a King normally,

got down to level of Minsiter to create difference of opinions,strife

and among rulers 

> regards

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Saturday, July 26, 2008, 1:11 AM

Dear Krishnanji

>

> Wonderful sharing! I always liked your sharings even when back then

I

> thought you were Hemant-da posting under a nom-de-plume!

>

> Jyotish has *lately* been under a lot of turmoil, inspection,

> reorganizing, restructuring and so on ...

>

> And yet after all speeches and so on have been made and MEA CULPA

> AUSSI - as Gandhiji said, " We make these speeches for a handful of

> lawyers in Delhi ... etc " -- " We astrologers make these postings

for

> a bunch of astrophiles -- many not even astrologers! " while the

LARGE

> MAJORITY of nativities remain untouched!

>

> ALL they need and seek are a reading and a solution, if there is

one!

> They care not one whit about KSY or its purity or whether it is

> legitimate ((whatever that means!) or venus saturn dashas which

MANY

> individuals go through without any SENSATIONAL or life-changing

> experience if one examines seriously, UTTARKALAMRITA

notwithstanding

> that some astrologers love to quote from without mentioning the

> source!

>

> Let us all focus on those who we set out to help or why else are we

> spending so much time and our lifetimes driven by this passion

known

> as astrology?

>

> Regards!

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> > Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens

about

> Kalsarpa yoga are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

> > Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes

one

> with head and the other with tail.These nodes have not been

accorded

> any status in Royal Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called

as

> shadow planets.

> > Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects as

> these two planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver Sani

> happens to energy taker and conseravator.

> > Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the

Prime

> Planet:Sun,the Royal King

> > Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers

by

> saying that whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and

act

> like the lords of these houses.

> > Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

> > Creator: LordBrahma

> >  Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

> > Destroyer:Lord Shiva

> > and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be

> supernatural elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces and

> Dikpalakas to recreate and give an environment to live and lead.

> > Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces that

> safeguards one and all of us.

> > This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga) live

to

> think more of likely problems that can be caused only to find

> themselves and anxious spending sleepless nights.So we surely have

> the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk endlessly and to divest enrgies.

> > vrkrishnan 

> >

> >

> > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ah KSY again!

> >

> > My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

> > TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA and

> not

> > ARISHTA?

> >

> > Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

> > allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore

> churning

> > the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky way?)

> and

> > then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all

that

> > and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive

> statement!

> > > and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting stuck

> > with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the

gods

> > and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and

express

> > both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

> >

> > The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar nodes

> > that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing

of

> > the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

> > reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life

into

> > the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun

and

> > the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer of

> such

> > LIFE energy.

> >

> > Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

> > sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a new

> > Harvest!

> >

> > I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some ancient

> and

> > modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or

remote:

> >

> > Sun = creator - <?>

> > Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

> > Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

> >

> > ...

> >

> > , Prasad P

> <prasadpole@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi respected members,

> > >

> > > Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs, is

> it

> > due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of

brahman

> > shaapa in past birth?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Prasad A. Pole

> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > ----

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao@>

> > >

> > > Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> > > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Can you please give more details. How does it is going to

effect

> an

> > individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa

> yoga.

> > Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had Kala

> > Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any

other

> > member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

> > possible for star wise its better.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Jagan

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

> > >

> > > arwen610m <arwen610m >

> > > Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > > Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

> > >

> > > Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> > > December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

> > >

> > > All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

> > >

> > > OM TAT SAT

> > >

> > >

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So true! Particularly in the KSY where the Lights incarnated as

parents have a make or break role to play as observation goes. Not

implying *causality* here, lest misunderstanding is created!

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Friend,

> Honestly yogas basically are attributed through the luminaries

namely SUN and MOON.there are other yogas that come through benific

palcements of planets.where as dasa systems too have relation to our

approach to analyse the chart/janma patri.But as a general rule we

give siginificance to Vimshottary dasa.All the nine planets have an

order in which they evolve and are fixed terms.we have others like

rasi dasa,narayana dasa and Ashtottari dasa.Some of these issues have

been very well brought ou for study in our jyotish vidya site for

reference.

> vrkrishnan

>

> --- On Sun, 7/27/08, arun4u@riyadh <vgtarun wrote:

>

> arun4u@riyadh <vgtarun

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Sunday, July 27, 2008, 3:02 AM

 

> Dear Astrologers,

>  

> Can any one of you describe various yogas and dasas in astrology

and its effects. so that the common readers can have basic knowledge.

>  

> thanks in advance...

>  

> Arun

>  

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

> --- On Sun, 27/7/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

> Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> Sunday, 27 July, 2008, 11:12 AM

>

> Maybe there was a typo introduced over the passage of time and the

> term should have been Kal(a) S(h)rapa!

>

> Only those with KSY would know and may be able to report about

> the " desynchronization " as far as 'TIME MANAGMENT' goes in their

> lives...

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Rohini da,

> > The kind of  regard Astrology enjoyed was " mother of all

> sciences " and " Science of Light "

> > Today as a predictive tool in the hands of common out look is

> undergoing re engineering and restructuring only to find means to

> resolve complex human problems.Some of the problems are certainly

> arising out of positions of Planets.In the case of rahu_ketu known

as

> dreaded combination and termed as Kalasarpa yoga needs to be

> understood in terms of Classicals. 

> > Kala sarpa Yoga too " involves turmoil,inspection, reorganising

and

> restructuring as the phenomenon so much apprehended and given

several

> names based on the axis of involvement of Rahu/Ketu.certainly

> classics have not encouraged such bleak and unwarrented

consequences

> in any one's life except in case the lagna is weaker than

> sunlagna.Chandra lagna if holding strength the consequences could

be

> over come.I know I was one who was apprehended of Kalsarpa yoga by

an

> Astrolger.So iad observed 56 Mondays as Vrat days and performed

> abhishekam to Lord Shiva.Visited too important known temple

> includinig Vaidheeswaran Koil India.But then the end result was not

> so different than was thought anticipated due to the following:

> > Struggles in Life as Challenges are great and if they are

> encounterd it is to restructure onself and reinvent life.

> > Jyotish no doubt is under stress  as the Vedic importance given

to

> it is no more relevant as it is meant for all sundries and make ego

> satisfied .

> > Also several platforms that have sprung up in the electronic

media

> bringing out sevral predictive technics.

> > Planets and stars in the background " exerting their influnces

> collectively and Individually. Thes influences effect humanity

> physically,biologic ally and psychologically.

> > As planets assigned by the Nature different roles, every year too

> perform task as assigned.In the solar year(relevant to 2008-

> 09),satrun turns people to unrighteous deeds and Sun a King

normally,

> got down to level of Minsiter to create difference of

opinions,strife

> and among rulers 

> > regards

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> > --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > Saturday, July 26, 2008, 1:11 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Krishnanji

> >

> > Wonderful sharing! I always liked your sharings even when back

then

> I

> > thought you were Hemant-da posting under a nom-de-plume!

> >

> > Jyotish has *lately* been under a lot of turmoil, inspection,

> > reorganizing, restructuring and so on ...

> >

> > And yet after all speeches and so on have been made and MEA CULPA

> > AUSSI - as Gandhiji said, " We make these speeches for a handful

of

> > lawyers in Delhi ... etc " -- " We astrologers make these postings

> for

> > a bunch of astrophiles -- many not even astrologers! " while the

> LARGE

> > MAJORITY of nativities remain untouched!

> >

> > ALL they need and seek are a reading and a solution, if there is

> one!

> > They care not one whit about KSY or its purity or whether it is

> > legitimate ((whatever that means!) or venus saturn dashas which

> MANY

> > individuals go through without any SENSATIONAL or life-changing

> > experience if one examines seriously, UTTARKALAMRITA

> notwithstanding

> > that some astrologers love to quote from without mentioning the

> > source!

> >

> > Let us all focus on those who we set out to help or why else are

we

> > spending so much time and our lifetimes driven by this passion

> known

> > as astrology?

> >

> > Regards!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > Some of the recommendations of the modern and ancient doyens

> about

> > Kalsarpa yoga are never based on classical texts of Jyotish

> > > Also the one responsible for the phenomenon happen to be:NOdes

> one

> > with head and the other with tail.These nodes have not been

> accorded

> > any status in Royal Cabinet.Due to this might be known and called

> as

> > shadow planets.

> > > Also rahu known as sanivada and ketu as Kuja vada give effects

as

> > these two planets.Of these if Kuja happens to be energy giver

Sani

> > happens to energy taker and conseravator.

> > > Interestingly both happens to belong to the parentage of the

> Prime

> > Planet:Sun,the Royal King

> > > Also ancient doyens also allayed fears of the jyotish followers

> by

> > saying that whereever these nodes get posited tend to behave and

> act

> > like the lords of these houses.

> > > Above all we have the universe/Shristi attributed to:

> > > Creator: LordBrahma

> > >  Sustainer:Lord Vishnu

> > > Destroyer:Lord Shiva

> > > and many other sundry forces(equivalent forces known to be

> > supernatural elements) to protect the humanity from evil forces

and

> > Dikpalakas to recreate and give an environment to live and lead.

> > > Yet this race can never believe in themselves nor the forces

that

> > safeguards one and all of us.

> > > This human race(if present times can be termed as Kaliyuga)

live

> to

> > think more of likely problems that can be caused only to find

> > themselves and anxious spending sleepless nights.So we surely

have

> > the topic of KALSARPA YOGA to talk endlessly and to divest

enrgies.

> > > vrkrishnan 

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > >

> > > Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:50 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Ah KSY again!

> > >

> > > My problem is primarily with nomenclature! Why is this evil and

> > > TERMINALLY destructive astrological combination called a YOGA

and

> > not

> > > ARISHTA?

> > >

> > > Actually the problem does not begin with the innocent pauranic

> > > allegory of the Divines and Demons in simpler times of yore

> > churning

> > > the ocean of cosmic milk (trying to figure out the -- milky

way?)

> > and

> > > then coming up with all the gems and joys and poisons and all

> that

> > > and then clever demons outsmarting the gods <case sensitive

> > statement!

> > > > and the humans getting stuck with KSY etc. Humans getting

stuck

> > > with the consequences of the discords between the + and -, the

> gods

> > > and demons does make sense! For we are born of the two and

> express

> > > both sides of our parentage! AS seen daily here and elsewhere?

> > >

> > > The most significant and visible <?> influence of the lunar

nodes

> > > that are blamed/associated with KSY happens to be the eclipsing

> of

> > > the LIGHTS! Only one of them is the source while the other is a

> > > reflector. Sun is the burst of primal energy that injects life

> into

> > > the living, moon the sustainer of life already initiated by Sun

> and

> > > the nodes when empowered eclipse the source and the sustainer

of

> > such

> > > LIFE energy.

> > >

> > > Simplistically stated: Brahma creates and infuses Life, Vishnu

> > > sustains it and Shiva destroys it and allows recreation and a

new

> > > Harvest!

> > >

> > > I realizes that this disturbs the recommendations of some

ancient

> > and

> > > modern doyens of jyotish but without naming names recent or

> remote:

> > >

> > > Sun = creator - <?>

> > > Moon = sustainer - <anabolism>

> > > Nodes = destroyer - <catabolism>

> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > , Prasad P

> > <prasadpole@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi respected members,

> > > >

> > > > Could you please elaborate as to why Kala sarpa yoga occurs,

is

> > it

> > > due to killing of snake in past janam or is it some kind of

> brahman

> > > shaapa in past birth?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Prasad A. Pole

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------

-

> > > ----

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Jagannadha Rao Eluri <ejrao@>

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, 24 July, 2008 6:30:30 PM

> > > > Re: Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > Can you please give more details. How does it is going to

> effect

> > an

> > > individual. How to face the adverse influence of the Kala Sarpa

> > yoga.

> > > Is it going to effect every individual or only those who had

Kala

> > > Sarpa Yoga in their chart only. I request you as well as any

> other

> > > member to provide the remedy atleast rasi wise. If remedies are

> > > possible for star wise its better.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards

> > > > Jagan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 7/24/08, arwen610m <arwen610m > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > arwen610m <arwen610m >

> > > > Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:53 AM

> > > >

> > > > Starting July 31, 2008 - December 4, 2008 and

> > > > December 15, 2008 - December 29, 2008

> > > >

> > > > All planets are " hemmed in " between Rahu and Ketu.

> > > >

> > > > OM TAT SAT

> > > >

> > > >

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