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Dear Members,

 

I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee. What is

wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one astrologer.

There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should ignore

her request.

Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear in the

first response itself that he is willing to give a reading provided he

gets paid for it.

Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to the

group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

 

At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for all the

hurt done to her.

 

Sincerely,

 

L M astro

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Dear LM,

 

Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do everywhere.

You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

 

Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

 

You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I have

given free initially and then come to complain that I did not get a

single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ? You

got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and twisting

the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

 

Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we all will

come to know your great stature.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee. What

is

> wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one astrologer.

> There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should

ignore

> her request.

> Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear in

the

> first response itself that he is willing to give a reading provided

he

> gets paid for it.

> Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to the

> group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

>

> At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for all

the

> hurt done to her.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M astro

>

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dear man or woman ( as ur id is funny )

 

 

 

pls understand the diffrnce ,even sant ssanyasi will take AK-47/56 in

case of this kind of ppl .do u think thakur ramakrishna or swami

vivekanda was sitting for one lady to help her ??is it is their mission

..

 

 

 

asking money or paying money is not a crime .it is token of gratitude

and respect too .In the name of getting second opinion begging in all

grp is known as roaming around with plate in hand to get wat ever freely

available .even old kings dont hav this facility ,even in puranas they

use to go rishi vatikas in forest with tons of gifts and was prostating

b4 them ,but to understand it such ppl shud hav good pedigree .

 

 

 

If u r of opinion or u wanted to know how gr8 person lived in their

life -u read vivekanada literature ,they were not getting money by

shower frm heaven ,where as individual s r paying ,to understand all

this first of all ur blood need real bharathiya culture .other mixed

lineges i dont know .

 

 

 

Now u know why this era we dont hav such ppl ,because we kill them .

 

" yatha mana stithi thatha paristithi "

 

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee. What is

> wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one astrologer.

> There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should ignore

> her request.

> Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear in the

> first response itself that he is willing to give a reading provided he

> gets paid for it.

> Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to the

> group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

>

> At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for all the

> hurt done to her.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M astro

>

 

 

 

 

 

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KM astro,

 

I wish u had a better name to sign up!

 

I hope u saw my post I did not SINGLE her but added her into a Elite list of

members who do abuse the free space-advices we give. this is no harm in seeking

clarification on one or tow points. but as someone has already given a list of

no of groups and messages by this person it must be seen in that light

 

I have named more than 3 ppl like this I know many more, have to look out for

the archives and let u know

 

have uy seen Seema from US she also posts regularly from last 4.5 yrs, but no

one complains on her why!

 

at least her questions are fresh each time and also WE GET A FEED BACK on what

was predicted for her this is the best fee any astrologer can get.

 

in the indivuduals named by me u will not see them acknowledging anythng at all

and it is hight time if ppl like a particular astrologers views they seek a paid

service from them even if they dont have declared professional fee.

 

some did call this forums space as a sample area and for actual readings the

professioanls suck u into them

 

some even have caleld themas remedies salesmen than astrologers

 

none of them r really true, there r some black shep in every sphere and it is

possible some in the forums too but to see astrologers work not being recognised

witha feedback, min thanks when something happens positively leave alone fees it

does hurt people who have spent time on such cases.

 

and u msut see I have still answered such cases once in a while not denied them

, will look at them only when no other cases r around

 

the least these free advice seekrs can do is pay some charity of their chice and

let us know of it all professional services need some karma of payment also to

be done in their respective capacities

 

Best wishes

 

prashant

 

I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

 

 

 

 

 

lm_astro <lm_astro

 

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:02:48 PM

Tirade against one individual

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee. What is

wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one astrologer.

There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should ignore

her request.

Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear in the

first response itself that he is willing to give a reading provided he

gets paid for it.

Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to the

group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

 

At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for all the

hurt done to her.

 

Sincerely,

 

L M astro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Members, Bhaskar,

 

Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know- IT IS WRONG TO

ASSUME/BLAME ME

 

this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find this troublesome.

 

THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

 

one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i took over as

Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED and one or two at that

time trouble some ones

 

ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r recall when a XXX

mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for passing it

 

then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after this incident I have

set moderation to all the friends circle of Bhaskar then toa void this

embaressement even freedom was misunderstood, this xxx come from anyones ID

unintentionally as they r viruses that spread without our control

 

Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

 

and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he had reservations

never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he enjoyed taunting members

 

after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content restricted

 

ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

 

today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd their free

readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees come later.

 

a thank u

 

a feedback that some event happened around the same time or earlier or later

 

or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in strengthening the

subject as many new aspirants are learing this humance science.

 

so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live they subject lives

it is a free society that has to support the professionals else they can also

choose other professions and no one who can guide u with less side effects, self

interest will also be lost

 

this subject can't be automated either we need a human intercace

 

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

 

 

Best wishes

 

I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

Re: Tirade against one individual

 

 

Dear LM,

 

Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do everywhere.

You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

 

Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

 

You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I have

given free initially and then come to complain that I did not get a

single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ? You

got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and twisting

the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

 

Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we all will

come to know your great stature.

 

Bhaskar.

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro@.. .>

wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee. What

is

> wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one astrologer.

> There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should

ignore

> her request.

> Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear in

the

> first response itself that he is willing to give a reading provided

he

> gets paid for it.

> Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to the

> group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

>

> At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for all

the

> hurt done to her.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M astro

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Moderator,

 

I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to make

the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he who

has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will be

charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he has to

pay for it.

But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a moral

right to claim money for all that advice which he had given free at

his own will.

I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and then

doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open forum

where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any such

pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

 

Sincerely,

 

L M astro

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Members, Bhaskar,

>

> Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know- IT

IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

>

> this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find this

troublesome.

>

> THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

>

> one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i took

over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED and

one or two at that time trouble some ones

>

> ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for passing

it

>

> then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after this

incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of Bhaskar

then toa void this embaressement even freedom was misunderstood,

this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses that

spread without our control

>

> Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

>

> and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he had

reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he enjoyed

taunting members

>

> after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

restricted

>

> ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

>

> today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees come

later.

>

> a thank u

>

> a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

earlier or later

>

> or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing this

humance science.

>

> so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live they

subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

professionals else they can also choose other professions and no one

who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also be

lost

>

> this subject can't be automated either we need a human intercace

>

> WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

>

>

> Best wishes

>

> I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur

life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group

either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database

section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

>

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> Re: Tirade against one individual

>

>

> Dear LM,

>

> Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

everywhere.

> You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

>

> Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

>

> You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I have

> given free initially and then come to complain that I did not get

a

> single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ? You

> got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and twisting

> the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

>

> Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we all

will

> come to know your great stature.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " lm_astro "

<lm_astro@ .>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee.

What

> is

> > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

astrologer.

> > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should

> ignore

> > her request.

> > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear

in

> the

> > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

provided

> he

> > gets paid for it.

> > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to

the

> > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> >

> > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for

all

> the

> > hurt done to her.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > L M astro

> >

 

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Dear Moderator,

 

This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

 

What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the jyotish

forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the astrologer

who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

another astrologer, on the same platforms.

 

Who has asked money, and where ?????

 

Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his concern .

Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not connected

to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

 

And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity because

all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

addresses. But who is he ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro

wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

make

> the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he who

> has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will be

> charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he has to

> pay for it.

> But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a moral

> right to claim money for all that advice which he had given free at

> his own will.

> I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and then

> doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

forum

> where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any such

> pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M astro

>

>

>

>

>

>

, Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> >

> > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know-

IT

> IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> >

> > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find this

> troublesome.

> >

> > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> >

> > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i took

> over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED and

> one or two at that time trouble some ones

> >

> > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for passing

> it

> >

> > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after this

> incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of Bhaskar

> then toa void this embaressement even freedom was misunderstood,

> this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

that

> spread without our control

> >

> > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> >

> > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he had

> reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he enjoyed

> taunting members

> >

> > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> restricted

> >

> > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> >

> > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees come

> later.

> >

> > a thank u

> >

> > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> earlier or later

> >

> > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing this

> humance science.

> >

> > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

they

> subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> professionals else they can also choose other professions and no

one

> who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also be

> lost

> >

> > this subject can't be automated either we need a human intercace

> >

> > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> >

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur

> life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group

> either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database

> section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@>

> >

> > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > Re: Tirade against one individual

> >

> >

> > Dear LM,

> >

> > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> everywhere.

> > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> >

> > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> >

> > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

have

> > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not get

> a

> > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ?

You

> > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

twisting

> > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> >

> > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we all

> will

> > come to know your great stature.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " lm_astro "

> <lm_astro@ .>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee.

> What

> > is

> > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> astrologer.

> > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should

> > ignore

> > > her request.

> > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear

> in

> > the

> > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> provided

> > he

> > > gets paid for it.

> > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to

> the

> > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > >

> > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for

> all

> > the

> > > hurt done to her.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Moderator,

 

There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking advice from

as many people as I feel like so long as there are people willing to

answer my request.

 

There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking the advice

from different people in the same forum so long as there are people

in the same forum ready to give me advice.

 

There is no body to stop me from seeking free advice from one and

seek paid advice from another. There is no such cumpulsion that I

seek paid advice from the same person who volunteered to offer free

advice.

 

Seeking advice is my choice, it can not be dictated by any one. To

respond or not is that of the others.

 

How is seeking another opinion an insult to the one who has given an

opinion earlier. Free advice does not mean getting into a bondage.

 

Those who consider it an insult should respond to the message only

after clarifying that the seeker will not consult any body else. He

should respond to the seeker only after the seeker gives in writing

that he will not seek another opinion.

 

Sincerely,

 

L M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

> Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

>

> What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

> astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

> astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

> replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the

jyotish

> forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the

astrologer

> who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

> another astrologer, on the same platforms.

>

> Who has asked money, and where ?????

>

> Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his

concern .

> Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not

connected

> to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

>

> And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity because

> all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

> addresses. But who is he ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , " lm_astro " <lm_astro@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moderator,

> >

> > I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

> make

> > the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he

who

> > has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will

be

> > charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he has

to

> > pay for it.

> > But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> > subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a

moral

> > right to claim money for all that advice which he had given free

at

> > his own will.

> > I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and

then

> > doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> > But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

> forum

> > where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any

such

> > pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > L M astro

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know-

 

> IT

> > IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> > >

> > > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find

this

> > troublesome.

> > >

> > > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> > >

> > > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i

took

> > over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED

and

> > one or two at that time trouble some ones

> > >

> > > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> > recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for

passing

> > it

> > >

> > > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after

this

> > incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of

Bhaskar

> > then toa void this embaressement even freedom was misunderstood,

> > this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

> that

> > spread without our control

> > >

> > > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> > >

> > > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he

had

> > reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he

enjoyed

> > taunting members

> > >

> > > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> > restricted

> > >

> > > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> > >

> > > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> > their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees

come

> > later.

> > >

> > > a thank u

> > >

> > > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> > earlier or later

> > >

> > > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> > strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing this

> > humance science.

> > >

> > > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

> they

> > subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> > professionals else they can also choose other professions and no

> one

> > who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also

be

> > lost

> > >

> > > this subject can't be automated either we need a human

intercace

> > >

> > > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> > >

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> > from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in

ur

> > life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> > verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

group

> > either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> > outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database

> > section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@>

> > >

> > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > > Re: Tirade against one individual

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear LM,

> > >

> > > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> > everywhere.

> > > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> > >

> > > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> > >

> > > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

> have

> > > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not

get

> > a

> > > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ?

> You

> > > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

> twisting

> > > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> > >

> > > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we

all

> > will

> > > come to know your great stature.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " lm_astro "

> > <lm_astro@ .>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee.

> > What

> > > is

> > > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> > astrologer.

> > > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they

should

> > > ignore

> > > > her request.

> > > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it

clear

> > in

> > > the

> > > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> > provided

> > > he

> > > > gets paid for it.

> > > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes

to

> > the

> > > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > > >

> > > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady

for

> > all

> > > the

> > > > hurt done to her.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > >

> > > > L M astro

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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LM .

 

U r mind is chemicalised so u cant see the truth .

 

This astrology is not abt binding but it so also .here the prime idea is

to help natives ,but if he or she gets 1000 readings how she will b

helped with 1000 opinions and 1000 remedies which one she will take .So

if she is not serious and astrologers over look this aspect of any one

,then their time and other queriest time is gone waisted ,but it will

never happen in paid readings ( here if astrologer is bad max they loose

money which is nothing when u see this quesriests with same query in

grps for last 5 yrs in grps--pls search in grps for some famous names )

No one realy come out of any problem s ,they go more and more in deep

shit only .

 

 

 

so think if u hav intelligence ,the question of money come here on 2

aspects ,one is astrologer also human being ( i know u think other wise

because u never giv any readings in ur life )

 

2nd is paid readings has some sincerity on the part of queriests ( if

astrologer is bad they must look for best ones ) to know future ,where

as free reading helped only real needy persons who has not money to pay

only .because those who blv in karma will understand it ( u will

understand later as usual as of now no one in earth can make u

understand it )

 

3rd aspect is can u show me any classics where says astrologer shud giv

only free readings only ( because u r emphasising that part too much )if

so pls quote it .or queriests can go as much as free reading possible

 

 

 

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro

wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking advice from

> as many people as I feel like so long as there are people willing to

> answer my request.

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking the advice

> from different people in the same forum so long as there are people

> in the same forum ready to give me advice.

>

> There is no body to stop me from seeking free advice from one and

> seek paid advice from another. There is no such cumpulsion that I

> seek paid advice from the same person who volunteered to offer free

> advice.

>

> Seeking advice is my choice, it can not be dictated by any one. To

> respond or not is that of the others.

>

> How is seeking another opinion an insult to the one who has given an

> opinion earlier. Free advice does not mean getting into a bondage.

>

> Those who consider it an insult should respond to the message only

> after clarifying that the seeker will not consult any body else. He

> should respond to the seeker only after the seeker gives in writing

> that he will not seek another opinion.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " Bhaskar "

> rajiventerprises@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moderator,

> >

> > This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

> > Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

> >

> > What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

> > astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

> > astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

> > replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the

> jyotish

> > forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the

> astrologer

> > who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

> > another astrologer, on the same platforms.

> >

> > Who has asked money, and where ?????

> >

> > Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his

> concern .

> > Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not

> connected

> > to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

> >

> > And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity because

> > all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

> > addresses. But who is he ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lm_astro " <lm_astro@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moderator,

> > >

> > > I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

> > make

> > > the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he

> who

> > > has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will

> be

> > > charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he has

> to

> > > pay for it.

> > > But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> > > subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a

> moral

> > > right to claim money for all that advice which he had given free

> at

> > > his own will.

> > > I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and

> then

> > > doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> > > But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

> > forum

> > > where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any

> such

> > > pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know-

>

> > IT

> > > IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> > > >

> > > > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find

> this

> > > troublesome.

> > > >

> > > > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> > > >

> > > > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i

> took

> > > over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED

> and

> > > one or two at that time trouble some ones

> > > >

> > > > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> > > recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for

> passing

> > > it

> > > >

> > > > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after

> this

> > > incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of

> Bhaskar

> > > then toa void this embaressement even freedom was misunderstood,

> > > this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

> > that

> > > spread without our control

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> > > >

> > > > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he

> had

> > > reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he

> enjoyed

> > > taunting members

> > > >

> > > > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> > > restricted

> > > >

> > > > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> > > >

> > > > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> > > their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees

> come

> > > later.

> > > >

> > > > a thank u

> > > >

> > > > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> > > earlier or later

> > > >

> > > > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> > > strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing this

> > > humance science.

> > > >

> > > > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

> > they

> > > subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> > > professionals else they can also choose other professions and no

> > one

> > > who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also

> be

> > > lost

> > > >

> > > > this subject can't be automated either we need a human

> intercace

> > > >

> > > > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> > > from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in

> ur

> > > life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> > > verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

> group

> > > either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> > > outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database

> > > section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@>

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > > > Re: Tirade against one individual

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear LM,

> > > >

> > > > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> > > everywhere.

> > > > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> > > >

> > > > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> > > >

> > > > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

> > have

> > > > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not

> get

> > > a

> > > > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ?

> > You

> > > > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

> > twisting

> > > > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> > > >

> > > > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we

> all

> > > will

> > > > come to know your great stature.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " lm_astro "

> > > <lm_astro@ .>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee.

> > > What

> > > > is

> > > > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> > > astrologer.

> > > > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they

> should

> > > > ignore

> > > > > her request.

> > > > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it

> clear

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> > > provided

> > > > he

> > > > > gets paid for it.

> > > > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes

> to

> > > the

> > > > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady

> for

> > > all

> > > > the

> > > > > hurt done to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > L M astro

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Moderator,

 

1) If LM gives the Forum members his name,address and contact no. I

will see to it,that I can stop him from all this. I will also like to

see him stopping me from stopping him.

 

2) Why is LM not revealing his/her/it identity ? Why this fear , and

of what ? What is he guilty of , that he cannot give us his identity ?

If he fails to give us his identity, then it will be understood dear

Moderator, that he is a trouble maker, and hope you will do something

about it, then.

 

3) He writes -

// There is no such cumpulsion that I seek paid advice from the same

person who volunteered to offer free advice. //

I ask him -

But who is compelling whom, and where ? Show us. And what is it you,

even if somebody is doing this ? Is this your lookout, problem,

concern or business ? Please go to the Police if you find somebody

complelling anyone to do this. Why to cry here in this forum ? e

 

Moderator, you can see he is just trying to provoke,and repeating the

same story, which was done few months back with me, when I stopped

writing here.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro

wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking advice

from

> as many people as I feel like so long as there are people willing

to

> answer my request.

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking the advice

> from different people in the same forum so long as there are people

> in the same forum ready to give me advice.

>

> There is no body to stop me from seeking free advice from one and

> seek paid advice from another. There is no such cumpulsion that I

> seek paid advice from the same person who volunteered to offer free

> advice.

>

> Seeking advice is my choice, it can not be dictated by any one. To

> respond or not is that of the others.

>

> How is seeking another opinion an insult to the one who has given

an

> opinion earlier. Free advice does not mean getting into a bondage.

>

> Those who consider it an insult should respond to the message only

> after clarifying that the seeker will not consult any body else. He

> should respond to the seeker only after the seeker gives in writing

> that he will not seek another opinion.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moderator,

> >

> > This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

> > Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

> >

> > What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

> > astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

> > astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

> > replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the

> jyotish

> > forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the

> astrologer

> > who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

> > another astrologer, on the same platforms.

> >

> > Who has asked money, and where ?????

> >

> > Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his

> concern .

> > Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not

> connected

> > to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

> >

> > And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity

because

> > all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

> > addresses. But who is he ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lm_astro " <lm_astro@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moderator,

> > >

> > > I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

> > make

> > > the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he

> who

> > > has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will

> be

> > > charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he

has

> to

> > > pay for it.

> > > But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> > > subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a

> moral

> > > right to claim money for all that advice which he had given

free

> at

> > > his own will.

> > > I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and

> then

> > > doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> > > But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

> > forum

> > > where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any

> such

> > > pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me

know-

>

> > IT

> > > IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> > > >

> > > > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find

> this

> > > troublesome.

> > > >

> > > > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> > > >

> > > > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i

> took

> > > over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED

> and

> > > one or two at that time trouble some ones

> > > >

> > > > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> > > recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for

> passing

> > > it

> > > >

> > > > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after

> this

> > > incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of

> Bhaskar

> > > then toa void this embaressement even freedom was

misunderstood,

> > > this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

> > that

> > > spread without our control

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> > > >

> > > > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he

> had

> > > reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he

> enjoyed

> > > taunting members

> > > >

> > > > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> > > restricted

> > > >

> > > > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> > > >

> > > > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> > > their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees

> come

> > > later.

> > > >

> > > > a thank u

> > > >

> > > > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> > > earlier or later

> > > >

> > > > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> > > strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing

this

> > > humance science.

> > > >

> > > > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

> > they

> > > subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> > > professionals else they can also choose other professions and

no

> > one

> > > who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also

> be

> > > lost

> > > >

> > > > this subject can't be automated either we need a human

> intercace

> > > >

> > > > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> > > from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in

> ur

> > > life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> > > verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

> group

> > > either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> > > outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database

> > > section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@>

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > > > Re: Tirade against one individual

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear LM,

> > > >

> > > > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> > > everywhere.

> > > > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> > > >

> > > > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> > > >

> > > > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

> > have

> > > > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not

> get

> > > a

> > > > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I

meant ?

> > You

> > > > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

> > twisting

> > > > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> > > >

> > > > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we

> all

> > > will

> > > > come to know your great stature.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " lm_astro "

> > > <lm_astro@ .>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms

Bhagvatjee.

> > > What

> > > > is

> > > > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> > > astrologer.

> > > > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they

> should

> > > > ignore

> > > > > her request.

> > > > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it

> clear

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> > > provided

> > > > he

> > > > > gets paid for it.

> > > > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then

comes

> to

> > > the

> > > > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady

> for

> > > all

> > > > the

> > > > > hurt done to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > L M astro

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Moderator,

 

I entirely agree with Mr Bhaskarji, and in no place Mr. Bhaskar ji, had

ever stated that until a person pays he will not give answer.  What this 'LL

Astro' talks about 'Moral right'?  What morality he has asking the same question

repeatedly to all in 'many' forums?  What he thinks?  We eat carrots and answer

his fetched questions?  The forum is distinctly formed to

discuss 'interpretations from experts' to pick the point of discussion to

analyse any ambiguity in the interpretations or add new dimensions to those who

wish to learn more about it.  It is not that all are having plenty of time to

'waste' for a few only.

 

 A.V.Pathi,                                       

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:46:00 PM

Re: Tirade against one individual

 

 

Dear Moderator,

 

This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

 

What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the jyotish

forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the astrologer

who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

another astrologer, on the same platforms.

 

Who has asked money, and where ?????

 

Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his concern .

Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not connected

to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

 

And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity because

all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

addresses. But who is he ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro@.. .>

wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

make

> the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he who

> has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will be

> charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he has to

> pay for it.

> But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a moral

> right to claim money for all that advice which he had given free at

> his own will.

> I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and then

> doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

forum

> where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any such

> pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M astro

>

>

>

>

>

>

, Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> >

> > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know-

IT

> IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> >

> > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find this

> troublesome.

> >

> > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> >

> > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i took

> over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED and

> one or two at that time trouble some ones

> >

> > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for passing

> it

> >

> > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after this

> incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of Bhaskar

> then toa void this embaressement even freedom was misunderstood,

> this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

that

> spread without our control

> >

> > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> >

> > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he had

> reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he enjoyed

> taunting members

> >

> > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> restricted

> >

> > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> >

> > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees come

> later.

> >

> > a thank u

> >

> > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> earlier or later

> >

> > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing this

> humance science.

> >

> > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

they

> subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> professionals else they can also choose other professions and no

one

> who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also be

> lost

> >

> > this subject can't be automated either we need a human intercace

> >

> > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> >

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur

> life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group

> either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database

> section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> >

> > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > Re: Tirade against one individual

> >

> >

> > Dear LM,

> >

> > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> everywhere.

> > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> >

> > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> >

> > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

have

> > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not get

> a

> > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ?

You

> > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

twisting

> > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> >

> > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we all

> will

> > come to know your great stature.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " lm_astro "

> <lm_astro@ .>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee.

> What

> > is

> > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> astrologer.

> > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should

> > ignore

> > > her request.

> > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear

> in

> > the

> > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> provided

> > he

> > > gets paid for it.

> > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to

> the

> > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > >

> > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for

> all

> > the

> > > hurt done to her.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Moderator,

 

I'm fed up with all this stuff.Pls use ur control before all these go out off

hand. Till date I'm a silent member of this forum,here I'm to seek

knowledge/advice from elder & learned persons.Already I'm facing lot of

troubles.I came here to this group to get peace as well as solace but here too

I'm confronting troubles.Pls good ones stop all these nonsense and come to

useful and meaningful conditions.I pray to GOD to keep all of the group members

disciplined,systematic and sound and healthy approach towards one another.

For example,Take  for instance MHO(Mumbai Hangout group) and behave well.Their

members are almost ONE LAKH people.Try to maintain discipline here.

THANQ.

 

WITH REGARDS,

RAMESH GORANTLA.

 

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Re: Tirade against one individual

 

Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 3:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Moderator,

 

1) If LM gives the Forum members his name,address and contact no. I

will see to it,that I can stop him from all this. I will also like to

see him stopping me from stopping him.

 

2) Why is LM not revealing his/her/it identity ? Why this fear , and

of what ? What is he guilty of , that he cannot give us his identity ?

If he fails to give us his identity, then it will be understood dear

Moderator, that he is a trouble maker, and hope you will do something

about it, then.

 

3) He writes -

// There is no such cumpulsion that I seek paid advice from the same

person who volunteered to offer free advice. //

I ask him -

But who is compelling whom, and where ? Show us. And what is it you,

even if somebody is doing this ? Is this your lookout, problem,

concern or business ? Please go to the Police if you find somebody

complelling anyone to do this. Why to cry here in this forum ? e

 

Moderator, you can see he is just trying to provoke,and repeating the

same story, which was done few months back with me, when I stopped

writing here.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro@.. .>

wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking advice

from

> as many people as I feel like so long as there are people willing

to

> answer my request.

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking the advice

> from different people in the same forum so long as there are people

> in the same forum ready to give me advice.

>

> There is no body to stop me from seeking free advice from one and

> seek paid advice from another. There is no such cumpulsion that I

> seek paid advice from the same person who volunteered to offer free

> advice.

>

> Seeking advice is my choice, it can not be dictated by any one. To

> respond or not is that of the others.

>

> How is seeking another opinion an insult to the one who has given

an

> opinion earlier. Free advice does not mean getting into a bondage.

>

> Those who consider it an insult should respond to the message only

> after clarifying that the seeker will not consult any body else. He

> should respond to the seeker only after the seeker gives in writing

> that he will not seek another opinion.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moderator,

> >

> > This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

> > Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

> >

> > What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

> > astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

> > astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

> > replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the

> jyotish

> > forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the

> astrologer

> > who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

> > another astrologer, on the same platforms.

> >

> > Who has asked money, and where ?????

> >

> > Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his

> concern .

> > Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not

> connected

> > to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

> >

> > And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity

because

> > all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

> > addresses. But who is he ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lm_astro " <lm_astro@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moderator,

> > >

> > > I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

> > make

> > > the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he

> who

> > > has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will

> be

> > > charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he

has

> to

> > > pay for it.

> > > But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> > > subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a

> moral

> > > right to claim money for all that advice which he had given

free

> at

> > > his own will.

> > > I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and

> then

> > > doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> > > But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

> > forum

> > > where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any

> such

> > > pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me

know-

>

> > IT

> > > IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> > > >

> > > > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find

> this

> > > troublesome.

> > > >

> > > > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> > > >

> > > > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i

> took

> > > over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED

> and

> > > one or two at that time trouble some ones

> > > >

> > > > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> > > recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for

> passing

> > > it

> > > >

> > > > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after

> this

> > > incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of

> Bhaskar

> > > then toa void this embaressement even freedom was

misunderstood,

> > > this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

> > that

> > > spread without our control

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> > > >

> > > > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he

> had

> > > reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he

> enjoyed

> > > taunting members

> > > >

> > > > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> > > restricted

> > > >

> > > > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> > > >

> > > > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> > > their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees

> come

> > > later.

> > > >

> > > > a thank u

> > > >

> > > > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> > > earlier or later

> > > >

> > > > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> > > strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing

this

> > > humance science.

> > > >

> > > > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

> > they

> > > subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> > > professionals else they can also choose other professions and

no

> > one

> > > who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also

> be

> > > lost

> > > >

> > > > this subject can't be automated either we need a human

> intercace

> > > >

> > > > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> > > from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in

> ur

> > > life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> > > verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

> group

> > > either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> > > outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database

> > > section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > > > Re: Tirade against one individual

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear LM,

> > > >

> > > > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> > > everywhere.

> > > > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> > > >

> > > > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> > > >

> > > > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

> > have

> > > > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not

> get

> > > a

> > > > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I

meant ?

> > You

> > > > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

> > twisting

> > > > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> > > >

> > > > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we

> all

> > > will

> > > > come to know your great stature.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " lm_astro "

> > > <lm_astro@ .>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms

Bhagvatjee.

> > > What

> > > > is

> > > > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> > > astrologer.

> > > > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they

> should

> > > > ignore

> > > > > her request.

> > > > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it

> clear

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> > > provided

> > > > he

> > > > > gets paid for it.

> > > > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then

comes

> to

> > > the

> > > > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady

> for

> > > all

> > > > the

> > > > > hurt done to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > L M astro

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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                   ll HARE RAM ll

Dear Sh.Pathi ji,

I am completely agree with your following words as " What morality he (one) has

asking the same question repeatedly to all in 'many' forums?  What he

(one) thinks?  We eat carrots and answer his fetched questions?  The forum is

distinctly formed to discuss 'interpretations from experts' to pick the point of

discussion to analyse any ambiguity in the interpretations or add new

dimensions to those who wish to learn more about it.It is not that all are

having plenty of time to 'waste'  for a few only. "

It is really a painful moment for one astrologer when he looks the same query on

other forum other day for which he already spent his valuable time for giving

answer.So Mr.Bhaskar's stand is right to get some payment.

I add " one with he " because i am not criticing some one.I am only agreed with

the raised question regarding payment.

 

Regards

Shashi Shekher " Shaaswat "

 

Shashi S.Sharma

[Vedic Astrologer & Gems Advisor] Cell-09818310075

 

[Member-Planetary Gemologists Association,Bangkok,Thailand]

www.freewebs.com/astroremedies

[Private consultation is chargeable.Please contact me in polite.astro

]

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

Re: Re: Tirade against one individual

 

Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:56 AM

 

Moderator,

 

I entirely agree with Mr Bhaskarji, and in no place Mr. Bhaskar ji, had

ever stated that until a person pays he will not give answer.  What this

'LL Astro' talks about 'Moral right'?  What morality he has

asking the same question repeatedly to all in 'many' forums?  What he

thinks?  We eat carrots and answer his fetched questions?  The forum is

distinctly formed to discuss 'interpretations from experts' to pick the

point of discussion to analyse any ambiguity in the interpretations or add new

dimensions to those who wish to learn more about it.  It is not that all are

having plenty of time to 'waste' for a few only.

 

 A.V.Pathi,                                       

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:46:00 PM

Re: Tirade against one individual

 

 

Dear Moderator,

 

This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

 

What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the jyotish

forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the astrologer

who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

another astrologer, on the same platforms.

 

Who has asked money, and where ?????

 

Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his concern .

Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not connected

to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

 

And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity because

all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

addresses. But who is he ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " lm_astro " <lm_astro@..

..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

make

> the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he who

> has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will be

> charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he has to

> pay for it.

> But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a moral

> right to claim money for all that advice which he had given free at

> his own will.

> I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and then

> doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

forum

> where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any such

> pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M astro

>

>

>

>

>

>

, Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> >

> > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me know-

IT

> IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> >

> > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find this

> troublesome.

> >

> > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> >

> > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i took

> over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED and

> one or two at that time trouble some ones

> >

> > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for passing

> it

> >

> > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after this

> incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of Bhaskar

> then toa void this embaressement even freedom was misunderstood,

> this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

that

> spread without our control

> >

> > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> >

> > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he had

> reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he enjoyed

> taunting members

> >

> > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> restricted

> >

> > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> >

> > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees come

> later.

> >

> > a thank u

> >

> > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> earlier or later

> >

> > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing this

> humance science.

> >

> > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

they

> subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> professionals else they can also choose other professions and no

one

> who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also be

> lost

> >

> > this subject can't be automated either we need a human intercace

> >

> > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> >

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur

> life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group

> either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database

> section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> >

> > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > Re: Tirade against one individual

> >

> >

> > Dear LM,

> >

> > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> everywhere.

> > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> >

> > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> >

> > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

have

> > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not get

> a

> > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I meant ?

You

> > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

twisting

> > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> >

> > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we all

> will

> > come to know your great stature.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " lm_astro "

> <lm_astro@ .>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms Bhagvatjee.

> What

> > is

> > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> astrologer.

> > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they should

> > ignore

> > > her request.

> > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it clear

> in

> > the

> > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> provided

> > he

> > > gets paid for it.

> > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then comes to

> the

> > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > >

> > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady for

> all

> > the

> > > hurt done to her.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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