Tirade against one individual-in moderated list

[Guest guest]

Dear Moderator,

 

I respect your decision and bow before it. But I will protest again

if need be when some one gets into this group to bully a seeker.

I am against any one insulting those who come to this group to seek

advice. We should be compassionate towards them instead of jeering

at them.

 

Sincerely,

 

L M

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear LM ASTRO,

>

> pending compliance to my previous message to update some info of

urself in the list database section I am putting u also in the

moderated list to give a level playing filed

>

> as urs was un-moderated and passed without my control had to allow

others also same freedom to express their views and not all can show

restraint, now if I choose not to pass urs same with the rest of

them will happen and just jyotish mails will be passing in

unhindered.

>

> and we will like to see some material contribution from members

even u too

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

> I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur

life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group

either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database

section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

>

>

>

>

> lm_astro <lm_astro

>

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:57:47 PM

> Re: Tirade against one individual

>

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking advice

from

> as many people as I feel like so long as there are people willing

to

> answer my request.

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking the

advice

> from different people in the same forum so long as there are

people

> in the same forum ready to give me advice.

>

> There is no body to stop me from seeking free advice from one and

> seek paid advice from another. There is no such cumpulsion that I

> seek paid advice from the same person who volunteered to offer

free

> advice.

>

> Seeking advice is my choice, it can not be dictated by any one. To

> respond or not is that of the others.

>

> How is seeking another opinion an insult to the one who has given

an

> opinion earlier. Free advice does not mean getting into a bondage.

>

> Those who consider it an insult should respond to the message only

> after clarifying that the seeker will not consult any body else.

He

> should respond to the seeker only after the seeker gives in

writing

> that he will not seek another opinion.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moderator,

> >

> > This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

> > Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

> >

> > What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from

any

> > astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

> > astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

> > replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the

> jyotish

> > forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the

> astrologer

> > who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

> > another astrologer, on the same platforms.

> >

> > Who has asked money, and where ?????

> >

> > Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his

> concern .

> > Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not

> connected

> > to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

> >

> > And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity

because

> > all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers

and

> > addresses. But who is he ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lm_astro "

<lm_astro@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moderator,

> > >

> > > I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has

to

> > make

> > > the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is

he

> who

> > > has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will

> be

> > > charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he

has

> to

> > > pay for it.

> > > But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> > > subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a

> moral

> > > right to claim money for all that advice which he had given

free

> at

> > > his own will.

> > > I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and

> then

> > > doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> > > But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

> > forum

> > > where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any

> such

> > > pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me

know-

>

> > IT

> > > IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> > > >

> > > > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find

> this

> > > troublesome.

> > > >

> > > > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> > > >

> > > > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i

> took

> > > over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R

MODERATED

> and

> > > one or two at that time trouble some ones

> > > >

> > > > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u

r

> > > recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for

> passing

> > > it

> > > >

> > > > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after

> this

> > > incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of

> Bhaskar

> > > then toa void this embaressement even freedom was

misunderstood,

> > > this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r

viruses

> > that

> > > spread without our control

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> > > >

> > > > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who

he

> had

> > > reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he

> enjoyed

> > > taunting members

> > > >

> > > > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> > > restricted

> > > >

> > > > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> > > >

> > > > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala

nd

> > > their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees

> come

> > > later.

> > > >

> > > > a thank u

> > > >

> > > > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> > > earlier or later

> > > >

> > > > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> > > strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing

this

> > > humance science.

> > > >

> > > > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they

live

> > they

> > > subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> > > professionals else they can also choose other professions and

no

> > one

> > > who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will

also

> be

> > > lost

> > > >

> > > > this subject can't be automated either we need a human

> intercace

> > > >

> > > > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> > > from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates

in

> ur

> > > life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> > > verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

> group

> > > either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> > > outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database

> > > section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > > > Re: Tirade against one individual

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear LM,

> > > >

> > > > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> > > everywhere.

> > > > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on

Internet.

> > > >

> > > > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your

nonsense ?

> > > >

> > > > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well.

I

> > have

> > > > given free initially and then come to complain that I did

not

> get

> > > a

> > > > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I

meant ?

> > You

> > > > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

> > twisting

> > > > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> > > >

> > > > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we

> all

> > > will

> > > > come to know your great stature.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " lm_astro "

> > > <lm_astro@ .>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms

Bhagvatjee.

> > > What

> > > > is

> > > > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> > > astrologer.

> > > > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they

> should

> > > > ignore

> > > > > her request.

> > > > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it

> clear

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> > > provided

> > > > he

> > > > > gets paid for it.

> > > > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then

comes

> to

> > > the

> > > > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single

paisa.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady

> for

> > > all

> > > > the

> > > > > hurt done to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > L M astro

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashantji,

 

Thank you for taking the necessary steps to clear this.

From my side I respect your moderatorship as seen evidently

which is marked with justice and integrity.

From my side I assure you I will speak only on astrological

and spiritual topics, and respect your moderatorship.

I am not at all interested in indulging in the few posts

which I have sent recently, which were only written

because the member was unnecessarily attacking me.

 

I cannot give any readings because already I am not doing

so in my own forum,because of shortage of time at my side,so it

is not proper if I give any readings here,but will contribute

wherever and whenever i can, under your guidance , for the

other topis.

 

Thank You once agan, for defending righteously the astrologers

and the dignity of this divine science.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear LM ASTRO,

>

> pending compliance to my previous message to update some info of

urself in the list database section I am putting u also in the

moderated list to give a level playing filed

>

> as urs was un-moderated and passed without my control had to allow

others also same freedom to express their views and not all can show

restraint, now if I choose not to pass urs same with the rest of them

will happen and just jyotish mails will be passing in unhindered.

>

> and we will like to see some material contribution from members

even u too

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

> I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life

while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

>

>

>

>

> lm_astro <lm_astro

>

> Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:57:47 PM

> Re: Tirade against one individual

>

>

> Dear Moderator,

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking advice

from

> as many people as I feel like so long as there are people willing

to

> answer my request.

>

> There is no body to stop me or any one else from seeking the advice

> from different people in the same forum so long as there are people

> in the same forum ready to give me advice.

>

> There is no body to stop me from seeking free advice from one and

> seek paid advice from another. There is no such cumpulsion that I

> seek paid advice from the same person who volunteered to offer free

> advice.

>

> Seeking advice is my choice, it can not be dictated by any one. To

> respond or not is that of the others.

>

> How is seeking another opinion an insult to the one who has given

an

> opinion earlier. Free advice does not mean getting into a bondage.

>

> Those who consider it an insult should respond to the message only

> after clarifying that the seeker will not consult any body else. He

> should respond to the seeker only after the seeker gives in writing

> that he will not seek another opinion.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> L M

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Moderator,

> >

> > This man is not talking sense. What is he trying to convey here ?

> > Who is asking fr money, by the way, for the readings given ?

> >

> > What is being asked is to stop from consistent enquiring from any

> > astrologer, and once he is finished, then jumping to another

> > astrologer. What is being asked is not to insult those who have

> > replied by this continous asking from every astrologer on the

> jyotish

> > forums. What is asked is to do not show disrespect to the

> astrologer

> > who has given readings, by once again asking the same queries to

> > another astrologer, on the same platforms.

> >

> > Who has asked money, and where ?????

> >

> > Why is LM trying to twist the matters, which are not of his

> concern .

> > Please ask him not to elongate this thread when he is not

> connected

> > to the issue, either as a contributor, or as a aggrieved party.

> >

> > And still if he has to, then let him disclose his identity

because

> > all the rest of us are real people with known contact numbers and

> > addresses. But who is he ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " lm_astro " <lm_astro@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Moderator,

> > >

> > > I am not against paid readings. It is the astrologer who has to

> > make

> > > the terms of his service clear right at the beginning. It is he

> who

> > > has to say that I will answer one query free and the rest will

> be

> > > charged. If the seeker needs further advice he knows that he

has

> to

> > > pay for it.

> > > But once the astrologer had been offering free advice to the

> > > subsequent queries put by the same seeker, he does not have a

> moral

> > > right to claim money for all that advice which he had given

free

> at

> > > his own will.

> > > I would certainly condemn a person who seeks a paid advice and

> then

> > > doesn’t pay or shirks paying.

> > > But I will not condemn a person who seeks an advice in an open

> > forum

> > > where astrologers volunteer to render free advice without any

> such

> > > pre-condition that the seeker will have to pay.

> > >

> > > Sincerely,

> > >

> > > L M astro

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members, Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > Well I am not sure who LM ASTRO is if anyone knows let me

know-

>

> > IT

> > > IS WRONG TO ASSUME/BLAME ME

> > > >

> > > > this message was passed unmoderated. will be so till I find

> this

> > > troublesome.

> > > >

> > > > THIS MEMBER JOINED ON APR 9 08

> > > >

> > > > one must clearly understand what I have said from the day i

> took

> > > over as Moderator on Apr 28 08 that all NEW MEMBERS R MODERATED

> and

> > > one or two at that time trouble some ones

> > > >

> > > > ALL OLD MEMBERS WERE ALLOWED FREE-UNMODERATED passages if u r

> > > recall when a XXX mail came from taruns ID I was blamed for

> passing

> > > it

> > > >

> > > > then too i said same all OLD members had free passage after

> this

> > > incident I have set moderation to all the friends circle of

> Bhaskar

> > > then toa void this embaressement even freedom was

misunderstood,

> > > this xxx come from anyones ID unintentionally as they r viruses

> > that

> > > spread without our control

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair was allowed unmoderated passage

> > > >

> > > > and all my request to stick to subject, ignore members who he

> had

> > > reservations never bore fruit, worse openly was declared he

> enjoyed

> > > taunting members

> > > >

> > > > after enough rope was given only I hads et non astro content

> > > restricted

> > > >

> > > > ALL ASTRO CONTENT FROM HIM I WILL PASS no problem with it

> > > >

> > > > today as said the message concerns astrologers in generala nd

> > > their free readings need to be respected, acknowledged, fees

> come

> > > later.

> > > >

> > > > a thank u

> > > >

> > > > a feedback that some event happened around the same time or

> > > earlier or later

> > > >

> > > > or did not happen or tooka opposite turn kind are helpful in

> > > strengthening the subject as many new aspirants are learing

this

> > > humance science.

> > > >

> > > > so pl respect the subject and its professionals, if they live

> > they

> > > subject lives it is a free society that has to support the

> > > professionals else they can also choose other professions and

no

> > one

> > > who can guide u with less side effects, self interest will also

> be

> > > lost

> > > >

> > > > this subject can't be automated either we need a human

> intercace

> > > >

> > > > WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > >

> > > > I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> > > from non Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in

> ur

> > > life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna

> > > verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the

> group

> > > either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations

> > > outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database

> > > section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, October 8, 2008 1:12:22 PM

> > > > Re: Tirade against one individual

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear LM,

> > > >

> > > > Dont sit and pass judgements. We know what drama you do

> > > everywhere.

> > > > You are the person who has spoilt all the forums on Internet.

> > > >

> > > > Why dont you help Bhagvatjee and spare us from your nonsense ?

> > > >

> > > > You are targetting me, which the Moderator knows very well. I

> > have

> > > > given free initially and then come to complain that I did not

> get

> > > a

> > > > single paisa ? No you need brains to figure out what I

meant ?

> > You

> > > > got it all wrong and miscnstruing and misinterpreting and

> > twisting

> > > > the facts, which has been your only agenda in Life, till now.

> > > >

> > > > Pl give the members your phone no and contact address, so we

> all

> > > will

> > > > come to know your great stature.

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " lm_astro "

> > > <lm_astro@ .>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel the group has been a bit too harsh on Ms

Bhagvatjee.

> > > What

> > > > is

> > > > > wrong if she has been seeking advice from more than one

> > > astrologer.

> > > > > There is no harm in getting more than one opinion.

> > > > > Those who think that it is a waste of their time, they

> should

> > > > ignore

> > > > > her request.

> > > > > Any astrologer who expects a paid reading should make it

> clear

> > > in

> > > > the

> > > > > first response itself that he is willing to give a reading

> > > provided

> > > > he

> > > > > gets paid for it.

> > > > > Initially the astrologer gives a free reading and then

comes

> to

> > > the

> > > > > group to complaint that he did not get paid a single paisa.

> > > > >

> > > > > At least I take this opportunity to apologise to the lady

> for

> > > all

> > > > the

> > > > > hurt done to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > L M astro

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >