Guest guest Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Dear MARK, RRji. Arjunji, the idea in the thread looks practical, It can't be taken so lightly as most of the tools available like gochara, dasas, strength of the planets and their results in their respective time are already programmed how much it delivers is based on our Karma account to the points we r assessing say by medication or purer from of life we expect a change then the combination should exist only then do happen inst it? in this if we dilute our effort so will be the results again possible distractions are also indicated there in to avoid if possible. u can see kids in rahu dasa being eccentric if combinations exist and sobere in Guru's dasa similarly for sani and Budha dasas whu? other factors included so if the awakening is there that measn its code is already present in us, we need not have new charts for it else why will not the rishis do them, max they have given is for womens coming of age not mens? similarly many inferences from it are drawn, have u seen a single chart showing when Valmiki transformed for a thug to a saint no? do u see charts of Ekelavya become a great archer by self effort they day he exhibeted his trenght to his Masa Guru no if Arjuna is a good archer it did exist in his cart Dheerubai Ambani was a petrol bunk attender became a indias no 1 business man is not by any chage on the day he started hs company but the progress is already in his chart we have to identify the dasas accordingly, evolution, progress,regression whatever apply the tools needed, which r already designed no new adapations needed the desha,, kala, paristhithi is again the key Best wishes prashant ________________________________ panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:30:03 AM Re: 2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number 4040, #7 " Why does Astrology w ork? " dear RRji albeit your post is in response to the observations of markji, my view is as follows since these queries prop up in minds of qurents: in the palam of the hands of any native, the length and breadth of the lines changes and the lines indicae the then nature of the native. some signs and symbols too come and vanish. of course, finger prints and the circles or snails in the upper phalange of the fingers remain forever. if we see the same palm after say twenty years, you may see a greatly improved palm with larger and thicker lines with more clarity when the person has grown positively or the decrease, waning or loss of length and thickness in the lines with obfuscating nets and cuts and distortions when the native has fallen negatively. in face reading too, the face at birth changes over years and the facereading is given by seeing the then looking face. but in astrology, we keep referring the same old chart year after year, even after 100 years or till the person dies. hence i have added few more drivers of future other than the horoscope which i have been narrating all these years. yes, the audited karmic balance sheet of previous birth reflecting in the birthchart is reckoned but the updation needs to be done manually considering various factors which we cannot ignore. varshaphala, prashna chart etc. are few astro tools to do these updations. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > Mark, > > Just posting one segment as opposed to the entire thread which has > really come through jumbled with strange characters such as: > > <../../../message/ 53544;_ylc= X3oDMTJyNTQybmhr BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1 BGdycElkA > zk\ > > > 2OTk4NjIEZ3Jwc3BJZA MxNzA1MDgyNjkwBG 1zZ0lkAzUzNTQ0BH NlYwNkbXNnBHNsaw N2b > XN\ > > nBHN0aW1lAzEyMjY2NT UwNjg-> > > > Not sure what is going on! > > Anyway this is the portion I request you to concentrate on if > possible: > > Mark Wrote: > > What I was trying to give expression to here was the fact that #1 > Our charts really do fit us. > > > > So, my chart when I was young really did fit the classic > descriptions of the malefic ness of my Moon. > > > > On the other hand, astrology is also about self-development and > > self-improvement. > > > > Therefore, practicing Yogic and meditation remedies and then 22 > years of Jyotish, literally changed by chart! > > > > And this is my point. > > > > Not only our charts about our beginnings but about how and where > we're supposed to improve ourselves, > > > > ============ ========= === > Mark, > > I see your point but in that case an astrologer seeing your chart > when you were younger would have been correct about what they saw in > your chart. However, as you became more powerful with your meditation > etc the chart stopped fitting you any longer and an astrologer seeing > your chart would find that the " new and improved Mark Kincaid " does > not fit the chart anymore and they would start messing around with > your time to rectify your correct birthtime ;-) > > So from your example you should have stated that the chart fits only > part of your lifetime! Does this mean that astrology now serves no > purpose in the life of people like you who have improved above and > beyond their original shy moon? > > What has your experience in this area? How many of the thousands that > you saw the charts of have been so effective as your good self in > climbing above and beyond their stars? :-) > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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