2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number 4040, #7 Why does Astrology w ork? Nov 15

[Guest guest]

Exactly -- Kumarji and Arjunji!

And varshapravesha and masapravesha too!

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear MARK, RRji. Arjunji,

>

> the idea in the thread looks practical, It can't be taken so lightly

>

> as most of the tools available like gochara, dasas, strength of the

planets and their results in their respective time are already

programmed how much it delivers is based on our Karma account to the

points we r assessing

>

> say by medication or purer from of life we expect a change then

the combination should exist only then do happen inst it?

>

> in this if we dilute our effort so will be the results again

possible distractions are also indicated there in to avoid if

possible.

>

> u can see kids in rahu dasa being eccentric if combinations exist

and sobere in Guru's dasa similarly for sani and Budha dasas whu?

other factors included

>

> so if the awakening is there that measn its code is already present

in us, we need not have new charts for it

>

> else why will not the rishis do them, max they have given is for

womens coming of age not mens? similarly many inferences from it are

drawn, have u seen a single chart showing when Valmiki transformed

for a thug to a saint no? do u see charts of Ekelavya become a great

archer by self effort they day he exhibeted his trenght to his Masa

Guru no

>

> if Arjuna is a good archer it did exist in his cart

>

> Dheerubai Ambani was a petrol bunk attender became a indias no 1

business man is not by any chage on the day he started hs company but

the progress is already in his chart

>

>

> we have to identify the dasas accordingly, evolution,

progress,regression whatever apply the tools needed, which r already

designed no new adapations needed the desha,, kala, paristhithi is

again the key

>

>

> Best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

> ________________________________

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

>

> Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:30:03 AM

> Re: 2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number 4040,

#7 " Why does Astrology w ork? "

>

>

> dear RRji

>

> albeit your post is in response to the observations of markji, my

> view is as follows since these queries prop up in minds of qurents:

>

> in the palam of the hands of any native, the length and breadth of

> the lines changes and the lines indicae the then nature of the

> native. some signs and symbols too come and vanish. of course,

> finger prints and the circles or snails in the upper phalange of

the

> fingers remain forever. if we see the same palm after say twenty

> years, you may see a greatly improved palm with larger and thicker

> lines with more clarity when the person has grown positively or the

> decrease, waning or loss of length and thickness in the lines with

> obfuscating nets and cuts and distortions when the native has

fallen

> negatively.

>

> in face reading too, the face at birth changes over years and the

> facereading is given by seeing the then looking face.

>

> but in astrology, we keep referring the same old chart year after

> year, even after 100 years or till the person dies. hence i have

> added few more drivers of future other than the horoscope which i

> have been narrating all these years. yes, the audited karmic

balance

> sheet of previous birth reflecting in the birthchart is reckoned

but

> the updation needs to be done manually considering various factors

> which we cannot ignore. varshaphala, prashna chart etc. are few

> astro tools to do these updations.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy .com

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Mark,

> >

> > Just posting one segment as opposed to the entire thread which

has

> > really come through jumbled with strange characters such as:

> >

> >

> <../../../message/ 53544;_ylc= X3oDMTJyNTQybmhr BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1

BGdycElkA

> > zk\

> > >

> >

> 2OTk4NjIEZ3Jwc3BJZA MxNzA1MDgyNjkwBG 1zZ0lkAzUzNTQ0BH

NlYwNkbXNnBHNsaw N2b

> > XN\

> > > nBHN0aW1lAzEyMjY2NT UwNjg->

> >

> >

> > Not sure what is going on!

> >

> > Anyway this is the portion I request you to concentrate on if

> > possible:

> >

> > Mark Wrote:

> > > What I was trying to give expression to here was the fact that

#1

> > Our charts really do fit us.

> > >

> > > So, my chart when I was young really did fit the classic

> > descriptions of the malefic ness of my Moon.

> > >

> > > On the other hand, astrology is also about self-development and

> > > self-improvement.

> > >

> > > Therefore, practicing Yogic and meditation remedies and then 22

> > years of Jyotish, literally changed by chart!

> > >

> > > And this is my point.

> > >

> > > Not only our charts about our beginnings but about how and

where

> > we're supposed to improve ourselves,

> > >

> >

> > ============ ========= ===

> > Mark,

> >

> > I see your point but in that case an astrologer seeing your chart

> > when you were younger would have been correct about what they saw

> in

> > your chart. However, as you became more powerful with your

> meditation

> > etc the chart stopped fitting you any longer and an astrologer

> seeing

> > your chart would find that the " new and improved Mark Kincaid "

does

> > not fit the chart anymore and they would start messing around

with

> > your time to rectify your correct birthtime ;-)

> >

> > So from your example you should have stated that the chart fits

> only

> > part of your lifetime! Does this mean that astrology now serves

no

> > purpose in the life of people like you who have improved above

and

> > beyond their original shy moon?

> >

> > What has your experience in this area? How many of the thousands

> that

> > you saw the charts of have been so effective as your good self in

> > climbing above and beyond their stars? :-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

 

[Guest guest]

dear RRji

 

some astrologers believe that astrology contains any and everything

of a human life from his birth to death (and even previous and future

births too) and i respect their views but i follow a different

approach.

 

your observation of taking help from varsha and masa is something

interesting. are you suggesting that astrologers with help of

further micro level analysis of masa, paksha, vara, dina and hourly

charts can even pinpoint microlevel predictions with time precision.

 

from a satellite in the space or from a spacestation on moon i.e.

from a different plaent (upagraha), you can zoom in with a magnified

image and even read the newspaper which a person is reading on the

earth. are you saying that astrology too can zoom in with

micro/telescopic analysis like mahadasa, antardasa, pratyantar and

further sub sub divisions and then varsha, masa, vara, dina etc.

divisional analysis. unfortunately i have not learnt these micro

level divisions as i do not believe that we can give minutest micro

level predictions to the minute like breaking or developing news on

tv as happening now.

 

to clear any confusions of other members, yes, we all believe and

follow astrology but there are different ways of blind, orthodox,

ardent, scientific, realistic etc. and all followers live peacefully

with unity in diversity.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Exactly -- Kumarji and Arjunji!

> And varshapravesha and masapravesha too!

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear MARK, RRji. Arjunji,

> >

> > the idea in the thread looks practical, It can't be taken so

lightly

> >

> > as most of the tools available like gochara, dasas, strength of

the

> planets and their results in their respective time are already

> programmed how much it delivers is based on our Karma account to

the

> points we r assessing

> >

> > say by medication or purer from of life we expect a change then

> the combination should exist only then do happen inst it?

> >

> > in this if we dilute our effort so will be the results again

> possible distractions are also indicated there in to avoid if

> possible.

> >

> > u can see kids in rahu dasa being eccentric if combinations exist

> and sobere in Guru's dasa similarly for sani and Budha dasas whu?

> other factors included

> >

> > so if the awakening is there that measn its code is already

present

> in us, we need not have new charts for it

> >

> > else why will not the rishis do them, max they have given is for

> womens coming of age not mens? similarly many inferences from it

are

> drawn, have u seen a single chart showing when Valmiki transformed

> for a thug to a saint no? do u see charts of Ekelavya become a

great

> archer by self effort they day he exhibeted his trenght to his Masa

> Guru no

> >

> > if Arjuna is a good archer it did exist in his cart

> >

> > Dheerubai Ambani was a petrol bunk attender became a indias no 1

> business man is not by any chage on the day he started hs company

but

> the progress is already in his chart

> >

> >

> > we have to identify the dasas accordingly, evolution,

> progress,regression whatever apply the tools needed, which r

already

> designed no new adapations needed the desha,, kala, paristhithi is

> again the key

> >

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > prashant

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@>

> >

> > Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:30:03 AM

> > Re: 2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number 4040,

> #7 " Why does Astrology w ork? "

> >

> >

> > dear RRji

> >

> > albeit your post is in response to the observations of markji, my

> > view is as follows since these queries prop up in minds of

qurents:

> >

> > in the palam of the hands of any native, the length and breadth

of

> > the lines changes and the lines indicae the then nature of the

> > native. some signs and symbols too come and vanish. of course,

> > finger prints and the circles or snails in the upper phalange of

> the

> > fingers remain forever. if we see the same palm after say twenty

> > years, you may see a greatly improved palm with larger and

thicker

> > lines with more clarity when the person has grown positively or

the

> > decrease, waning or loss of length and thickness in the lines

with

> > obfuscating nets and cuts and distortions when the native has

> fallen

> > negatively.

> >

> > in face reading too, the face at birth changes over years and the

> > facereading is given by seeing the then looking face.

> >

> > but in astrology, we keep referring the same old chart year after

> > year, even after 100 years or till the person dies. hence i have

> > added few more drivers of future other than the horoscope which i

> > have been narrating all these years. yes, the audited karmic

> balance

> > sheet of previous birth reflecting in the birthchart is reckoned

> but

> > the updation needs to be done manually considering various

factors

> > which we cannot ignore. varshaphala, prashna chart etc. are few

> > astro tools to do these updations.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > Just posting one segment as opposed to the entire thread which

> has

> > > really come through jumbled with strange characters such as:

> > >

> > >

> > <../../../message/ 53544;_ylc= X3oDMTJyNTQybmhr BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1

> BGdycElkA

> > > zk\

> > > >

> > >

> > 2OTk4NjIEZ3Jwc3BJZA MxNzA1MDgyNjkwBG 1zZ0lkAzUzNTQ0BH

> NlYwNkbXNnBHNsaw N2b

> > > XN\

> > > > nBHN0aW1lAzEyMjY2NT UwNjg->

> > >

> > >

> > > Not sure what is going on!

> > >

> > > Anyway this is the portion I request you to concentrate on if

> > > possible:

> > >

> > > Mark Wrote:

> > > > What I was trying to give expression to here was the fact

that

> #1

> > > Our charts really do fit us.

> > > >

> > > > So, my chart when I was young really did fit the classic

> > > descriptions of the malefic ness of my Moon.

> > > >

> > > > On the other hand, astrology is also about self-development

and

> > > > self-improvement.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, practicing Yogic and meditation remedies and then

22

> > > years of Jyotish, literally changed by chart!

> > > >

> > > > And this is my point.

> > > >

> > > > Not only our charts about our beginnings but about how and

> where

> > > we're supposed to improve ourselves,

> > > >

> > >

> > > ============ ========= ===

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > I see your point but in that case an astrologer seeing your

chart

> > > when you were younger would have been correct about what they

saw

> > in

> > > your chart. However, as you became more powerful with your

> > meditation

> > > etc the chart stopped fitting you any longer and an astrologer

> > seeing

> > > your chart would find that the " new and improved Mark Kincaid "

> does

> > > not fit the chart anymore and they would start messing around

> with

> > > your time to rectify your correct birthtime ;-)

> > >

> > > So from your example you should have stated that the chart fits

> > only

> > > part of your lifetime! Does this mean that astrology now serves

> no

> > > purpose in the life of people like you who have improved above

> and

> > > beyond their original shy moon?

> > >

> > > What has your experience in this area? How many of the

thousands

> > that

> > > you saw the charts of have been so effective as your good self

in

> > > climbing above and beyond their stars? :-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Arjun ji

 

Most events are definetly covered in a good astrologers scope of reading a

horoscpe. it is a good mix of astrological and wisdom along with Almighty's

blessings which is in proportion to the Karma balance on time frame in

question.

 

if they deserve a good reading before hand they will get else a post morton of

such events as they had to suffer the trauma of it at times even good things wud

have happen suddenly to them again karma depending.

 

and the micro level is possible in some cases as u can see in a day u may get ur

slarly and same day u can be pickpoketed

 

u can buy a car and also loose something or pay a fine to a cop due to some

accident anything good or bad can happen in a given day. some are possible not

all that happens and no one actually concentrates that much as we r always keen

to see the next case. if we do confine ourself to a family o f people surely u

can do all the micro levels, not for all.

 

 

as I 've seenthis happn that way

 

Best wishes

 

prashant

 

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

 

Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:41:26 AM

Re: 2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number 4040, #7 " Why does

Astrology w ork? " Nov 15

 

 

dear RRji

 

some astrologers believe that astrology contains any and everything

of a human life from his birth to death (and even previous and future

births too) and i respect their views but i follow a different

approach.

 

your observation of taking help from varsha and masa is something

interesting. are you suggesting that astrologers with help of

further micro level analysis of masa, paksha, vara, dina and hourly

charts can even pinpoint microlevel predictions with time precision.

 

from a satellite in the space or from a spacestation on moon i.e.

from a different plaent (upagraha), you can zoom in with a magnified

image and even read the newspaper which a person is reading on the

earth. are you saying that astrology too can zoom in with

micro/telescopic analysis like mahadasa, antardasa, pratyantar and

further sub sub divisions and then varsha, masa, vara, dina etc.

divisional analysis. unfortunately i have not learnt these micro

level divisions as i do not believe that we can give minutest micro

level predictions to the minute like breaking or developing news on

tv as happening now.

 

to clear any confusions of other members, yes, we all believe and

follow astrology but there are different ways of blind, orthodox,

ardent, scientific, realistic etc. and all followers live peacefully

with unity in diversity.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy .com

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Exactly -- Kumarji and Arjunji!

> And varshapravesha and masapravesha too!

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear MARK, RRji. Arjunji,

> >

> > the idea in the thread looks practical, It can't be taken so

lightly

> >

> > as most of the tools available like gochara, dasas, strength of

the

> planets and their results in their respective time are already

> programmed how much it delivers is based on our Karma account to

the

> points we r assessing

> >

> > say by medication or purer from of life we expect a change then

> the combination should exist only then do happen inst it?

> >

> > in this if we dilute our effort so will be the results again

> possible distractions are also indicated there in to avoid if

> possible.

> >

> > u can see kids in rahu dasa being eccentric if combinations exist

> and sobere in Guru's dasa similarly for sani and Budha dasas whu?

> other factors included

> >

> > so if the awakening is there that measn its code is already

present

> in us, we need not have new charts for it

> >

> > else why will not the rishis do them, max they have given is for

> womens coming of age not mens? similarly many inferences from it

are

> drawn, have u seen a single chart showing when Valmiki transformed

> for a thug to a saint no? do u see charts of Ekelavya become a

great

> archer by self effort they day he exhibeted his trenght to his Masa

> Guru no

> >

> > if Arjuna is a good archer it did exist in his cart

> >

> > Dheerubai Ambani was a petrol bunk attender became a indias no 1

> business man is not by any chage on the day he started hs company

but

> the progress is already in his chart

> >

> >

> > we have to identify the dasas accordingly, evolution,

> progress,regression whatever apply the tools needed, which r

already

> designed no new adapations needed the desha,, kala, paristhithi is

> again the key

> >

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > prashant

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ >

> >

> > Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:30:03 AM

> > Re: 2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number 4040,

> #7 " Why does Astrology w ork? "

> >

> >

> > dear RRji

> >

> > albeit your post is in response to the observations of markji, my

> > view is as follows since these queries prop up in minds of

qurents:

> >

> > in the palam of the hands of any native, the length and breadth

of

> > the lines changes and the lines indicae the then nature of the

> > native. some signs and symbols too come and vanish. of course,

> > finger prints and the circles or snails in the upper phalange of

> the

> > fingers remain forever. if we see the same palm after say twenty

> > years, you may see a greatly improved palm with larger and

thicker

> > lines with more clarity when the person has grown positively or

the

> > decrease, waning or loss of length and thickness in the lines

with

> > obfuscating nets and cuts and distortions when the native has

> fallen

> > negatively.

> >

> > in face reading too, the face at birth changes over years and the

> > facereading is given by seeing the then looking face.

> >

> > but in astrology, we keep referring the same old chart year after

> > year, even after 100 years or till the person dies. hence i have

> > added few more drivers of future other than the horoscope which i

> > have been narrating all these years. yes, the audited karmic

> balance

> > sheet of previous birth reflecting in the birthchart is reckoned

> but

> > the updation needs to be done manually considering various

factors

> > which we cannot ignore. varshaphala, prashna chart etc. are few

> > astro tools to do these updations.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > Just posting one segment as opposed to the entire thread which

> has

> > > really come through jumbled with strange characters such as:

> > >

> > >

> > <../../../message/ 53544;_ylc= X3oDMTJyNTQybmhr BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1

> BGdycElkA

> > > zk\

> > > >

> > >

> > 2OTk4NjIEZ3Jwc3BJZA MxNzA1MDgyNjkwBG 1zZ0lkAzUzNTQ0BH

> NlYwNkbXNnBHNsaw N2b

> > > XN\

> > > > nBHN0aW1lAzEyMjY2NT UwNjg->

> > >

> > >

> > > Not sure what is going on!

> > >

> > > Anyway this is the portion I request you to concentrate on if

> > > possible:

> > >

> > > Mark Wrote:

> > > > What I was trying to give expression to here was the fact

that

> #1

> > > Our charts really do fit us.

> > > >

> > > > So, my chart when I was young really did fit the classic

> > > descriptions of the malefic ness of my Moon.

> > > >

> > > > On the other hand, astrology is also about self-development

and

> > > > self-improvement.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, practicing Yogic and meditation remedies and then

22

> > > years of Jyotish, literally changed by chart!

> > > >

> > > > And this is my point.

> > > >

> > > > Not only our charts about our beginnings but about how and

> where

> > > we're supposed to improve ourselves,

> > > >

> > >

> > > ============ ========= ===

> > > Mark,

> > >

> > > I see your point but in that case an astrologer seeing your

chart

> > > when you were younger would have been correct about what they

saw

> > in

> > > your chart. However, as you became more powerful with your

> > meditation

> > > etc the chart stopped fitting you any longer and an astrologer

> > seeing

> > > your chart would find that the " new and improved Mark Kincaid "

> does

> > > not fit the chart anymore and they would start messing around

> with

> > > your time to rectify your correct birthtime ;-)

> > >

> > > So from your example you should have stated that the chart fits

> > only

> > > part of your lifetime! Does this mean that astrology now serves

> no

> > > purpose in the life of people like you who have improved above

> and

> > > beyond their original shy moon?

> > >

> > > What has your experience in this area? How many of the

thousands

> > that

> > > you saw the charts of have been so effective as your good self

in

> > > climbing above and beyond their stars? :-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

No Arjunji, I was not implying that. With a variety of approaches,

orientation points, perspectives that different astrological

techniques provide, an astrologer should be able to fill in the gaps

and connect the dots better. These different factors then provide

more details in the picture of the nativity that we are looking at.

It is like looking at a 2MP version of a jpeg image versus looking at

the same scene in a 16 MP version. More dots, more image details, but

nothing moved.

 

As to the ability to precisely and accurately pinpointing all events

etc in any individual's life, it has been the coveted dream of many

divinators (not just astrologers) but would just not be possible for

a simple reason: Kriyamana karma or free-will.

 

RR

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear RRji

>

> some astrologers believe that astrology contains any and everything

> of a human life from his birth to death (and even previous and

future

> births too) and i respect their views but i follow a different

> approach.

>

> your observation of taking help from varsha and masa is something

> interesting. are you suggesting that astrologers with help of

> further micro level analysis of masa, paksha, vara, dina and hourly

> charts can even pinpoint microlevel predictions with time

precision.

>

> from a satellite in the space or from a spacestation on moon i.e.

> from a different plaent (upagraha), you can zoom in with a

magnified

> image and even read the newspaper which a person is reading on the

> earth. are you saying that astrology too can zoom in with

> micro/telescopic analysis like mahadasa, antardasa, pratyantar and

> further sub sub divisions and then varsha, masa, vara, dina etc.

> divisional analysis. unfortunately i have not learnt these micro

> level divisions as i do not believe that we can give minutest micro

> level predictions to the minute like breaking or developing news on

> tv as happening now.

>

> to clear any confusions of other members, yes, we all believe and

> follow astrology but there are different ways of blind, orthodox,

> ardent, scientific, realistic etc. and all followers live

peacefully

> with unity in diversity.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Exactly -- Kumarji and Arjunji!

> > And varshapravesha and masapravesha too!

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear MARK, RRji. Arjunji,

> > >

> > > the idea in the thread looks practical, It can't be taken so

> lightly

> > >

> > > as most of the tools available like gochara, dasas, strength of

> the

> > planets and their results in their respective time are already

> > programmed how much it delivers is based on our Karma account to

> the

> > points we r assessing

> > >

> > > say by medication or purer from of life we expect a change

then

> > the combination should exist only then do happen inst it?

> > >

> > > in this if we dilute our effort so will be the results again

> > possible distractions are also indicated there in to avoid if

> > possible.

> > >

> > > u can see kids in rahu dasa being eccentric if combinations

exist

> > and sobere in Guru's dasa similarly for sani and Budha dasas whu?

> > other factors included

> > >

> > > so if the awakening is there that measn its code is already

> present

> > in us, we need not have new charts for it

> > >

> > > else why will not the rishis do them, max they have given is

for

> > womens coming of age not mens? similarly many inferences from it

> are

> > drawn, have u seen a single chart showing when Valmiki

transformed

> > for a thug to a saint no? do u see charts of Ekelavya become a

> great

> > archer by self effort they day he exhibeted his trenght to his

Masa

> > Guru no

> > >

> > > if Arjuna is a good archer it did exist in his cart

> > >

> > > Dheerubai Ambani was a petrol bunk attender became a indias no

1

> > business man is not by any chage on the day he started hs company

> but

> > the progress is already in his chart

> > >

> > >

> > > we have to identify the dasas accordingly, evolution,

> > progress,regression whatever apply the tools needed, which r

> already

> > designed no new adapations needed the desha,, kala, paristhithi

is

> > again the key

> > >

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@>

> > >

> > > Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:30:03 AM

> > > Re: 2-Rohini_ & All: .....re: Digest Number

4040,

> > #7 " Why does Astrology w ork? "

> > >

> > >

> > > dear RRji

> > >

> > > albeit your post is in response to the observations of markji,

my

> > > view is as follows since these queries prop up in minds of

> qurents:

> > >

> > > in the palam of the hands of any native, the length and breadth

> of

> > > the lines changes and the lines indicae the then nature of the

> > > native. some signs and symbols too come and vanish. of

course,

> > > finger prints and the circles or snails in the upper phalange

of

> > the

> > > fingers remain forever. if we see the same palm after say

twenty

> > > years, you may see a greatly improved palm with larger and

> thicker

> > > lines with more clarity when the person has grown positively or

> the

> > > decrease, waning or loss of length and thickness in the lines

> with

> > > obfuscating nets and cuts and distortions when the native has

> > fallen

> > > negatively.

> > >

> > > in face reading too, the face at birth changes over years and

the

> > > facereading is given by seeing the then looking face.

> > >

> > > but in astrology, we keep referring the same old chart year

after

> > > year, even after 100 years or till the person dies. hence i

have

> > > added few more drivers of future other than the horoscope which

i

> > > have been narrating all these years. yes, the audited karmic

> > balance

> > > sheet of previous birth reflecting in the birthchart is

reckoned

> > but

> > > the updation needs to be done manually considering various

> factors

> > > which we cannot ignore. varshaphala, prashna chart etc. are

few

> > > astro tools to do these updations.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > >

> > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mark,

> > > >

> > > > Just posting one segment as opposed to the entire thread

which

> > has

> > > > really come through jumbled with strange characters such as:

> > > >

> > > >

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> > BGdycElkA

> > > > zk\

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Not sure what is going on!

> > > >

> > > > Anyway this is the portion I request you to concentrate on if

> > > > possible:

> > > >

> > > > Mark Wrote:

> > > > > What I was trying to give expression to here was the fact

> that

> > #1

> > > > Our charts really do fit us.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, my chart when I was young really did fit the classic

> > > > descriptions of the malefic ness of my Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the other hand, astrology is also about self-development

> and

> > > > > self-improvement.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore, practicing Yogic and meditation remedies and

then

> 22

> > > > years of Jyotish, literally changed by chart!

> > > > >

> > > > > And this is my point.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not only our charts about our beginnings but about how and

> > where

> > > > we're supposed to improve ourselves,

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ============ ========= ===

> > > > Mark,

> > > >

> > > > I see your point but in that case an astrologer seeing your

> chart

> > > > when you were younger would have been correct about what they

> saw

> > > in

> > > > your chart. However, as you became more powerful with your

> > > meditation

> > > > etc the chart stopped fitting you any longer and an

astrologer

> > > seeing

> > > > your chart would find that the " new and improved Mark

Kincaid "

> > does

> > > > not fit the chart anymore and they would start messing around

> > with

> > > > your time to rectify your correct birthtime ;-)

> > > >

> > > > So from your example you should have stated that the chart

fits

> > > only

> > > > part of your lifetime! Does this mean that astrology now

serves

> > no

> > > > purpose in the life of people like you who have improved

above

> > and

> > > > beyond their original shy moon?

> > > >

> > > > What has your experience in this area? How many of the

> thousands

> > > that

> > > > you saw the charts of have been so effective as your good

self

> in

> > > > climbing above and beyond their stars? :-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >