Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 dear sir, 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there are 32 dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect vidhana. may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with planets. as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord of Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. in actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as Bhumiputra is govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, tsya alokya......may read full in original " . 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant be used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana pratishtha is needed for any mantra. 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form which one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or nirakaar rupa. their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, when you leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in his or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all forms. Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all the forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, otherwise do just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in hand of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not know any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship The almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this earth. This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it comes in same reply. in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY IN ANY LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE BELIEFE BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA IS NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY LANGUAGE - ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, PURE, THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure it take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure and mix of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer get reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come but it will take it own time. By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without any Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast and you will be blessed. Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know all about Mantra. regards Niket , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear Raja, > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else there are some > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else it can creat > havoc. > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in protecting you? Lord > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the placement of Mars in > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he started chanting > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any house is maraka > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is jala tattwa. > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what happened. Either agni > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None will do it > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of the 6th lord > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. Also, If any > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to make one > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. Ista is > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there is no > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which diety are > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be fullfilled by > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari-mantra, one lost > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a mantra for a > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. Pt. Sanjay > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought out in clarity. > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, unless you get > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on mantra, different > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular mantra and post it > in the list - whenever i find some time > > Regards > > Jk > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > Re: swaha > > > Dasguptaji, > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to protect from > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am thinking it > should? > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > please shed some light. > > thanks, > raja > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 letter > mantra. > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or rogabhava > and give > > result on yr lagna. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari markatam > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy used > for > > offering > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in sraddha > > karmas for > > > Pittris. > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e `Namah' > > mantras where > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > surrender to the > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing the > > Devata to > > > grant the result. > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows what is > > best > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read and > seen > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra requires " homa " > > (i.e.. > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras i have > > seen > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is no > > havan. I > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja without any vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material progress is required, rules are different. In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the books. Then you must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor I know Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal openion. I do not agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family members holding the reign. It is also my personal openion. Regards Jk On Behalf Of astroiniket Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM Re: swaha - why i am not agree dear sir, 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there are 32 dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect vidhana. may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with planets. as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord of Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. in actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as Bhumiputra is govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, tsya alokya......may read full in original " . 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant be used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana pratishtha is needed for any mantra. 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form which one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or nirakaar rupa. their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, when you leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in his or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all forms. Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all the forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, otherwise do just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in hand of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not know any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship The almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this earth. This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it comes in same reply. in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY IN ANY LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE BELIEFE BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA IS NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY LANGUAGE - ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, PURE, THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure it take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure and mix of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer get reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come but it will take it own time. By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without any Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast and you will be blessed. Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know all about Mantra. regards Niket , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear Raja, > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else there are some > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else it can creat > havoc. > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in protecting you? Lord > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the placement of Mars in > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he started chanting > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any house is maraka > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is jala tattwa. > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what happened. Either agni > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None will do it > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of the 6th lord > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. Also, If any > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to make one > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. Ista is > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there is no > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which diety are > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be fullfilled by > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari-mantra, one lost > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a mantra for a > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. Pt. Sanjay > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought out in clarity. > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, unless you get > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on mantra, different > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular mantra and post it > in the list - whenever i find some time > > Regards > > Jk > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > Re: swaha > > > Dasguptaji, > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to protect from > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am thinking it > should? > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > please shed some light. > > thanks, > raja > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 letter > mantra. > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or rogabhava > and give > > result on yr lagna. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari markatam > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy used > for > > offering > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in sraddha > > karmas for > > > Pittris. > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e `Namah' > > mantras where > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > surrender to the > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing the > > Devata to > > > grant the result. > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows what is > > best > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read and > seen > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra requires " homa " > > (i.e.. > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras i have > > seen > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is no > > havan. I > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and some time it is door of Hell. Depends. as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. kind regards Niket , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja without any > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material progress is > required, rules are different. > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the books. Then you > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor I know > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal openion. I do not > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family members holding the > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > dear sir, > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there are 32 > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect vidhana. > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with planets. > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord of > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. in > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as Bhumiputra is > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, tsya > alokya......may read full in original " . > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant be > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana pratishtha > is needed for any mantra. > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form which > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or nirakaar > rupa. > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, when you > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in his > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all forms. > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all the > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, otherwise do > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in hand > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not know > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship The > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this earth. > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it comes > in same reply. > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY IN ANY > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE BELIEFE > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA IS > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY LANGUAGE - > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, PURE, > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure it > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure and mix > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer get > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come but > it will take it own time. > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without any > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast and > you will be blessed. > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know all > about Mantra. > > regards > Niket > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else there > are some > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else it can > creat > > havoc. > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in protecting > you? Lord > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the placement > of Mars in > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he started > chanting > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any house > is maraka > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is jala > tattwa. > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what happened. > Either agni > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None will > do it > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of the > 6th lord > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. Also, > If any > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to make > one > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. Ista > is > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there is > no > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which diety are > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be > fullfilled by > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari-mantra, > one lost > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a mantra for > a > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. Pt. > Sanjay > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought out in > clarity. > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, unless you > get > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on mantra, > different > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular mantra and > post it > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to protect > from > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am thinking > it > > should? > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > please shed some light. > > > > thanks, > > raja > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 > letter > > mantra. > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > rogabhava > > and give > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari markatam > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy > used > > for > > > offering > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in sraddha > > > karmas for > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e `Namah' > > > mantras where > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > > surrender to the > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing the > > > Devata to > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows what > is > > > best > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read and > > seen > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra requires " homa " > > > (i.e.. > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras i > have > > > seen > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is no > > > havan. I > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I fully agree with you :-) Regards Jk On Behalf Of astroiniket Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM Re: swaha - why i am not agree my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and some time it is door of Hell. Depends. as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. kind regards Niket , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja without any > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material progress is > required, rules are different. > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the books. Then you > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor I know > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal openion. I do not > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family members holding the > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > dear sir, > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there are 32 > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect vidhana. > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with planets. > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord of > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. in > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as Bhumiputra is > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, tsya > alokya......may read full in original " . > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant be > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana pratishtha > is needed for any mantra. > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form which > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or nirakaar > rupa. > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, when you > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in his > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all forms. > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all the > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, otherwise do > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in hand > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not know > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship The > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this earth. > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it comes > in same reply. > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY IN ANY > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE BELIEFE > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA IS > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY LANGUAGE - > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, PURE, > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure it > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure and mix > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer get > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come but > it will take it own time. > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without any > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast and > you will be blessed. > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know all > about Mantra. > > regards > Niket > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else there > are some > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else it can > creat > > havoc. > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in protecting > you? Lord > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the placement > of Mars in > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he started > chanting > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any house > is maraka > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is jala > tattwa. > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what happened. > Either agni > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None will > do it > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of the > 6th lord > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. Also, > If any > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to make > one > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. Ista > is > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there is > no > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which diety are > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be > fullfilled by > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari-mantra, > one lost > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a mantra for > a > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. Pt. > Sanjay > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought out in > clarity. > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, unless you > get > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on mantra, > different > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular mantra and > post it > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to protect > from > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am thinking > it > > should? > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > please shed some light. > > > > thanks, > > raja > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 > letter > > mantra. > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > rogabhava > > and give > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari markatam > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy > used > > for > > > offering > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in sraddha > > > karmas for > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e `Namah' > > > mantras where > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > > surrender to the > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing the > > > Devata to > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows what > is > > > best > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read and > > seen > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra requires " homa " > > > (i.e.. > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras i > have > > > seen > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is no > > > havan. I > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 see , what you two have been discussing is theoritical science and in no way it can empirically be verified hence there is no way for proving who is right and who is not. Different mind has diffrent theories and it very well may lead to a single ultimate destination but how do we verify as no such method exist to verify. fascinating. I am glad that i joined this group. , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > I fully agree with you :-) > > Regards > > Jk > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and some time > it is door of Hell. Depends. > > as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is > concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. > > kind regards > Niket > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja without > any > > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material progress > is > > required, rules are different. > > > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the books. > Then you > > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor I know > > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal openion. > I do not > > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family members > holding the > > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there are > 32 > > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect > vidhana. > > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with > planets. > > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord of > > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. in > > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as Bhumiputra > is > > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, tsya > > alokya......may read full in original " . > > > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant be > > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana > pratishtha > > is needed for any mantra. > > > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form > which > > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or > nirakaar > > rupa. > > > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, when > you > > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in > his > > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all > forms. > > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all the > > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. > > > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, otherwise > do > > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in > hand > > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not > know > > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship > The > > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this > earth. > > > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it > comes > > in same reply. > > > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY IN > ANY > > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE > BELIEFE > > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA > IS > > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY > LANGUAGE - > > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, > PURE, > > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure it > > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure and > mix > > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer get > > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come > but > > it will take it own time. > > > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without any > > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast > and > > you will be blessed. > > > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know all > > about Mantra. > > > > regards > > Niket > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else there > > are some > > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else it > can > > creat > > > havoc. > > > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in > protecting > > you? Lord > > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the > placement > > of Mars in > > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he started > > chanting > > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any > house > > is maraka > > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is > jala > > tattwa. > > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what happened. > > Either agni > > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None > will > > do it > > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of > the > > 6th lord > > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. > Also, > > If any > > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to > make > > one > > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. > Ista > > is > > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there > is > > no > > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which > diety are > > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be > > fullfilled by > > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari- mantra, > > one lost > > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a mantra > for > > a > > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. > Pt. > > Sanjay > > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought > out in > > clarity. > > > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, unless > you > > get > > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on mantra, > > different > > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular mantra > and > > post it > > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to protect > > from > > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am > thinking > > it > > > should? > > > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > > > please shed some light. > > > > > > thanks, > > > raja > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 > > letter > > > mantra. > > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > > rogabhava > > > and give > > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari markatam > > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy > > used > > > for > > > > offering > > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in > sraddha > > > > karmas for > > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e > `Namah' > > > > mantras where > > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > > > surrender to the > > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing > the > > > > Devata to > > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows > what > > is > > > > best > > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read > and > > > seen > > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra requires " homa " > > > > (i.e.. > > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras i > > have > > > > seen > > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is no > > > > havan. I > > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 dear Raja, in what context you are asking to prove ? what you want to verify ? pls clear dot points. rgds Niker , " Raja " <desi.raja wrote: > > see , what you two have been discussing is theoritical science and in > no way it can empirically be verified hence there is no way for > proving who is right and who is not. Different mind has diffrent > theories and it very well may lead to a single ultimate destination > but how do we verify as no such method exist to verify. > > fascinating. I am glad that i joined this group. > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > I fully agree with you :-) > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and some > time > > it is door of Hell. Depends. > > > > as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is > > concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. > > > > kind regards > > Niket > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > > > > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja > without > > any > > > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material > progress > > is > > > required, rules are different. > > > > > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the > books. > > Then you > > > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor I > know > > > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > > > > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal > openion. > > I do not > > > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > > > > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family members > > holding the > > > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > astroiniket > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > > > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there > are > > 32 > > > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect > > vidhana. > > > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > > > > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with > > planets. > > > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord > of > > > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. > in > > > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as > Bhumiputra > > is > > > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > > > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, > tsya > > > alokya......may read full in original " . > > > > > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant > be > > > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana > > pratishtha > > > is needed for any mantra. > > > > > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form > > which > > > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or > > nirakaar > > > rupa. > > > > > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, > when > > you > > > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in > > his > > > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all > > forms. > > > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all > the > > > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. > > > > > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, > otherwise > > do > > > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in > > hand > > > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not > > know > > > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship > > The > > > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this > > earth. > > > > > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it > > comes > > > in same reply. > > > > > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY > IN > > ANY > > > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > > > > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE > > BELIEFE > > > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > > > > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA > > IS > > > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY > > LANGUAGE - > > > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, > > PURE, > > > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > > > > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure > it > > > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure > and > > mix > > > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > > > > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer > get > > > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come > > but > > > it will take it own time. > > > > > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without > any > > > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast > > and > > > you will be blessed. > > > > > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know > all > > > about Mantra. > > > > > > regards > > > Niket > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else > there > > > are some > > > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else > it > > can > > > creat > > > > havoc. > > > > > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in > > protecting > > > you? Lord > > > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the > > placement > > > of Mars in > > > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he > started > > > chanting > > > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any > > house > > > is maraka > > > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is > > jala > > > tattwa. > > > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what > happened. > > > Either agni > > > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None > > will > > > do it > > > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of > > the > > > 6th lord > > > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. > > Also, > > > If any > > > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to > > make > > > one > > > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > > > > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. > > Ista > > > is > > > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there > > is > > > no > > > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which > > diety are > > > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be > > > fullfilled by > > > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari- > mantra, > > > one lost > > > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a > mantra > > for > > > a > > > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. > > Pt. > > > Sanjay > > > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought > > out in > > > clarity. > > > > > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, > unless > > you > > > get > > > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on > mantra, > > > different > > > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular > mantra > > and > > > post it > > > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to > protect > > > from > > > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am > > thinking > > > it > > > > should? > > > > > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > > > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > > > > > please shed some light. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > raja > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 > > > letter > > > > mantra. > > > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > > > rogabhava > > > > and give > > > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari > markatam > > > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy > > > used > > > > for > > > > > offering > > > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in > > sraddha > > > > > karmas for > > > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e > > `Namah' > > > > > mantras where > > > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > > > > surrender to the > > > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing > > the > > > > > Devata to > > > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows > > what > > > is > > > > > best > > > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read > > and > > > > seen > > > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra > requires " homa " > > > > > (i.e.. > > > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras > i > > > have > > > > > seen > > > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is > no > > > > > havan. I > > > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why not? Experience and various case studies can show the right or wrong. So, it is always better to follow Guru's words and his experiences, instead of getting lost in slokas of scripture and the coded languages there in. Even Gita and upanishads cannot be understood without a Guru - as the languages are coded. Sanskrit is such a vast language, one word at the same time mean various things. Mandyukya Upanishad tells that during awaken state we are under the influence of the Devata Vaishwanara. He has 7 limbs and 19 mouths. The foreign translator (I do not want to mention the name) termed is as madness of the Rishis. Actually the Rishis meant some thing more deeper. Jaimini Upadesha Sutram cannnot be understood unless one fully understand vedic neumerology, all the sutras are coded and on the face has no meaning. Regards Jk On Behalf Of Raja Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:59 PM Re: swaha - why i am not agree see , what you two have been discussing is theoritical science and in no way it can empirically be verified hence there is no way for proving who is right and who is not. Different mind has diffrent theories and it very well may lead to a single ultimate destination but how do we verify as no such method exist to verify. fascinating. I am glad that i joined this group. , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > I fully agree with you :-) > > Regards > > Jk > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and some time > it is door of Hell. Depends. > > as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is > concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. > > kind regards > Niket > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja without > any > > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material progress > is > > required, rules are different. > > > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the books. > Then you > > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor I know > > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal openion. > I do not > > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family members > holding the > > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there are > 32 > > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect > vidhana. > > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with > planets. > > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him lord of > > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of Mars. in > > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as Bhumiputra > is > > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, tsya > > alokya......may read full in original " . > > > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra cant be > > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana > pratishtha > > is needed for any mantra. > > > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form > which > > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or > nirakaar > > rupa. > > > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, when > you > > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt in > his > > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all > forms. > > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one all the > > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. > > > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, otherwise > do > > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in > hand > > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does not > know > > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they worship > The > > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on this > earth. > > > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it > comes > > in same reply. > > > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR PRAY IN > ANY > > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE > BELIEFE > > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR YANTRA > IS > > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY > LANGUAGE - > > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, CLEAR, > PURE, > > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, pure it > > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure and > mix > > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer get > > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must come > but > > it will take it own time. > > > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love without any > > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very fast > and > > you will be blessed. > > > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must know all > > about Mantra. > > > > regards > > Niket > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else there > > are some > > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. Else it > can > > creat > > > havoc. > > > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in > protecting > > you? Lord > > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the > placement > > of Mars in > > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he started > > chanting > > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any > house > > is maraka > > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which is > jala > > tattwa. > > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what happened. > > Either agni > > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. None > will > > do it > > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet of > the > > 6th lord > > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. > Also, > > If any > > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power to > make > > one > > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will help. > Ista > > is > > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if there > is > > no > > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which > diety are > > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be > > fullfilled by > > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari- mantra, > > one lost > > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a mantra > for > > a > > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas only. > Pt. > > Sanjay > > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought > out in > > clarity. > > > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, unless > you > > get > > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on mantra, > > different > > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular mantra > and > > post it > > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to protect > > from > > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am > thinking > > it > > > should? > > > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean it'd > > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > > > please shed some light. > > > > > > thanks, > > > raja > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and 13 > > letter > > > mantra. > > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > > rogabhava > > > and give > > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari markatam > > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is generalyy > > used > > > for > > > > offering > > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in > sraddha > > > > karmas for > > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e > `Namah' > > > > mantras where > > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are for > > > > surrender to the > > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat forcing > the > > > > Devata to > > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows > what > > is > > > > best > > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have read > and > > > seen > > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra requires " homa " > > > > (i.e.. > > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some mantras i > > have > > > > seen > > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there is no > > > > havan. I > > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I stand corrected. Case studies i assume can be as emipirical proof as any scientific verification. I was just attempting to balance the arguments. , " astroiniket " <nakshtraniket wrote: > > dear Raja, > in what context you are asking to prove ? what you want to verify ? > pls clear dot points. > > rgds > Niker > , " Raja " <desi.raja@> wrote: > > > > see , what you two have been discussing is theoritical science and > in > > no way it can empirically be verified hence there is no way for > > proving who is right and who is not. Different mind has diffrent > > theories and it very well may lead to a single ultimate destination > > but how do we verify as no such method exist to verify. > > > > fascinating. I am glad that i joined this group. > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > I fully agree with you :-) > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of astroiniket > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and some > > time > > > it is door of Hell. Depends. > > > > > > as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is > > > concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. > > > > > > kind regards > > > Niket > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > > > > > > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja > > without > > > any > > > > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material > > progress > > > is > > > > required, rules are different. > > > > > > > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the > > books. > > > Then you > > > > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, nor > I > > know > > > > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > > > > > > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal > > openion. > > > I do not > > > > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > > > > > > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family > members > > > holding the > > > > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > astroiniket > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > > > > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra there > > are > > > 32 > > > > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect > > > vidhana. > > > > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > > > > > > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with > > > planets. > > > > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him > lord > > of > > > > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of > Mars. > > in > > > > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as > > Bhumiputra > > > is > > > > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > > > > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya saranchanam, > > tsya > > > > alokya......may read full in original " . > > > > > > > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra > cant > > be > > > > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana > > > pratishtha > > > > is needed for any mantra. > > > > > > > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one form > > > which > > > > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or > > > nirakaar > > > > rupa. > > > > > > > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give you, > > when > > > you > > > > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have doubt > in > > > his > > > > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have all > > > forms. > > > > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one > all > > the > > > > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty God. > > > > > > > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, > > otherwise > > > do > > > > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool in > > > hand > > > > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does > not > > > know > > > > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they > worship > > > The > > > > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on > this > > > earth. > > > > > > > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, it > > > comes > > > > in same reply. > > > > > > > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR > PRAY > > IN > > > ANY > > > > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > > > > > > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE ARE > > > BELIEFE > > > > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > > > > > > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR > YANTRA > > > IS > > > > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY > > > LANGUAGE - > > > > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, > CLEAR, > > > PURE, > > > > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > > > > > > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, > pure > > it > > > > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and impure > > and > > > mix > > > > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > > > > > > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your prayer > > get > > > > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must > come > > > but > > > > it will take it own time. > > > > > > > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love > without > > any > > > > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very > fast > > > and > > > > you will be blessed. > > > > > > > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must > know > > all > > > > about Mantra. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Niket > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. Else > > there > > > > are some > > > > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. > Else > > it > > > can > > > > creat > > > > > havoc. > > > > > > > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in > > > protecting > > > > you? Lord > > > > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the > > > placement > > > > of Mars in > > > > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he > > started > > > > chanting > > > > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because any > > > house > > > > is maraka > > > > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house which > is > > > jala > > > > tattwa. > > > > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what > > happened. > > > > Either agni > > > > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > > > > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. > None > > > will > > > > do it > > > > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th planet > of > > > the > > > > 6th lord > > > > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in Navamsa. > > > Also, > > > > If any > > > > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got power > to > > > make > > > > one > > > > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna lord. > > > > > > > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will > help. > > > Ista > > > > is > > > > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if > there > > > is > > > > no > > > > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which > > > diety are > > > > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > > > > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will be > > > > fullfilled by > > > > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari- > > mantra, > > > > one lost > > > > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a > > mantra > > > for > > > > a > > > > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas > only. > > > Pt. > > > > Sanjay > > > > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has brought > > > out in > > > > clarity. > > > > > > > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, > > unless > > > you > > > > get > > > > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on > > mantra, > > > > different > > > > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular > > mantra > > > and > > > > post it > > > > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > > > > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to > > protect > > > > from > > > > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > > > > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am > > > thinking > > > > it > > > > > should? > > > > > > > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean > it'd > > > > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > > > > > > > please shed some light. > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > raja > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words and > 13 > > > > letter > > > > > mantra. > > > > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > > > > rogabhava > > > > > and give > > > > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari > > markatam > > > > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is > generalyy > > > > used > > > > > for > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in > > > sraddha > > > > > > karmas for > > > > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e > > > `Namah' > > > > > > mantras where > > > > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras are > for > > > > > > surrender to the > > > > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat > forcing > > > the > > > > > > Devata to > > > > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord knows > > > what > > > > is > > > > > > best > > > > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > Raja > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have > read > > > and > > > > > seen > > > > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra > > requires " homa " > > > > > > (i.e.. > > > > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some > mantras > > i > > > > have > > > > > > seen > > > > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where there > is > > no > > > > > > havan. I > > > > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 dear friends do not include Bhakti in my saying. excluding that : as you are taking med, you have faith in med or not - no matter - if med is strong - and rightly prescribed - and diagnosed - you must see or feel effect of med. same Mantras : if you follow Perfect process, you have faith or not - no matter - your - (Selection of Mantra + process of Mantra + Materiel + strong will+ focus on target) must give you desired result. I am agree one must need a guru to understand and perform all this. BUT up to a certain level - horoscope - Grah (planets) - nakshtras - knowledge - mantras - yantras - tantra is identified but their is one more level beyond this level " Where all these things does not have any value - that is Bhakti. " in Bhakti nothing is required - Only unconditional love - rest is Headache of almighty and belief me you never feel any need to ask any thing. all will be taken care. and you will get all without doing any thing. as shree Hanuman Got ashirwad from Maa " Ajar, Amar, Gun Nidhi, Sut tum Hoyu " ( o my sun you will be sea of all Gunas, Siddhis, Nidhis, all type of wealth, you will be immortal, you never be old, you will be beyond time and it's control and effects) and see Lord hanuman is able to give any thing. a lot of can be said. but all these things can be written in words. rgds Niket , " Raja " <desi.raja wrote: > > I stand corrected. Case studies i assume can be as emipirical proof > as any scientific verification. I was just attempting to balance the > arguments. > > , " astroiniket " > <nakshtraniket@> wrote: > > > > dear Raja, > > in what context you are asking to prove ? what you want to verify ? > > pls clear dot points. > > > > rgds > > Niker > > , " Raja " <desi.raja@> wrote: > > > > > > see , what you two have been discussing is theoritical science > and > > in > > > no way it can empirically be verified hence there is no way for > > > proving who is right and who is not. Different mind has diffrent > > > theories and it very well may lead to a single ultimate > destination > > > but how do we verify as no such method exist to verify. > > > > > > fascinating. I am glad that i joined this group. > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I fully agree with you :-) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > astroiniket > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > > > > my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and > some > > > time > > > > it is door of Hell. Depends. > > > > > > > > as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is > > > > concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. > > > > > > > > kind regards > > > > Niket > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > > > > > > > > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja > > > without > > > > any > > > > > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material > > > progress > > > > is > > > > > required, rules are different. > > > > > > > > > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the > > > books. > > > > Then you > > > > > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, > nor > > I > > > know > > > > > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > > > > > > > > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal > > > openion. > > > > I do not > > > > > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family > > members > > > > holding the > > > > > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > astroiniket > > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > > > > > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra > there > > > are > > > > 32 > > > > > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect > > > > vidhana. > > > > > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > > > > > > > > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with > > > > planets. > > > > > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him > > lord > > > of > > > > > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of > > Mars. > > > in > > > > > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as > > > Bhumiputra > > > > is > > > > > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > > > > > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya > saranchanam, > > > tsya > > > > > alokya......may read full in original " . > > > > > > > > > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra > > cant > > > be > > > > > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana > > > > pratishtha > > > > > is needed for any mantra. > > > > > > > > > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one > form > > > > which > > > > > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or > > > > nirakaar > > > > > rupa. > > > > > > > > > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give > you, > > > when > > > > you > > > > > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have > doubt > > in > > > > his > > > > > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have > all > > > > forms. > > > > > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one > > all > > > the > > > > > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty > God. > > > > > > > > > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, > > > otherwise > > > > do > > > > > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool > in > > > > hand > > > > > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does > > not > > > > know > > > > > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they > > worship > > > > The > > > > > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on > > this > > > > earth. > > > > > > > > > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, > it > > > > comes > > > > > in same reply. > > > > > > > > > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR > > PRAY > > > IN > > > > ANY > > > > > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > > > > > > > > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE > ARE > > > > BELIEFE > > > > > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > > > > > > > > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR > > YANTRA > > > > IS > > > > > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY > > > > LANGUAGE - > > > > > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, > > CLEAR, > > > > PURE, > > > > > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > > > > > > > > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, > > pure > > > it > > > > > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and > impure > > > and > > > > mix > > > > > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > > > > > > > > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your > prayer > > > get > > > > > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must > > come > > > > but > > > > > it will take it own time. > > > > > > > > > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love > > without > > > any > > > > > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very > > fast > > > > and > > > > > you will be blessed. > > > > > > > > > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must > > know > > > all > > > > > about Mantra. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Niket > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. > Else > > > there > > > > > are some > > > > > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. > > Else > > > it > > > > can > > > > > creat > > > > > > havoc. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in > > > > protecting > > > > > you? Lord > > > > > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the > > > > placement > > > > > of Mars in > > > > > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he > > > started > > > > > chanting > > > > > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because > any > > > > house > > > > > is maraka > > > > > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house > which > > is > > > > jala > > > > > tattwa. > > > > > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what > > > happened. > > > > > Either agni > > > > > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. > > None > > > > will > > > > > do it > > > > > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th > planet > > of > > > > the > > > > > 6th lord > > > > > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in > Navamsa. > > > > Also, > > > > > If any > > > > > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got > power > > to > > > > make > > > > > one > > > > > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will > > help. > > > > Ista > > > > > is > > > > > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if > > there > > > > is > > > > > no > > > > > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which > > > > diety are > > > > > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > > > > > > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will > be > > > > > fullfilled by > > > > > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari- > > > mantra, > > > > > one lost > > > > > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a > > > mantra > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas > > only. > > > > Pt. > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has > brought > > > > out in > > > > > clarity. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, > > > unless > > > > you > > > > > get > > > > > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on > > > mantra, > > > > > different > > > > > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular > > > mantra > > > > and > > > > > post it > > > > > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to > > > protect > > > > > from > > > > > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am > > > > thinking > > > > > it > > > > > > should? > > > > > > > > > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean > > it'd > > > > > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > > > > > > > > > please shed some light. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > raja > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words > and > > 13 > > > > > letter > > > > > > mantra. > > > > > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > > > > > rogabhava > > > > > > and give > > > > > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > Raja > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari > > > markatam > > > > > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is > > generalyy > > > > > used > > > > > > for > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in > > > > sraddha > > > > > > > karmas for > > > > > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e > > > > `Namah' > > > > > > > mantras where > > > > > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras > are > > for > > > > > > > surrender to the > > > > > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat > > forcing > > > > the > > > > > > > Devata to > > > > > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord > knows > > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Raja > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have > > read > > > > and > > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra > > > requires " homa " > > > > > > > (i.e.. > > > > > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some > > mantras > > > i > > > > > have > > > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where > there > > is > > > no > > > > > > > havan. I > > > > > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Dear Nikit, Raja well all the points covered here can be split into a few parts just like a good analysis, diagnosis and treatment has its own desired results so too a Mantra invokation, recitation will help in much better way if it coming from a elderly person a GURU, or one of tohe two parents done in the prescribed manner. Bhakti has its own dimension where it is unqualified devotion, irrespective of the challenges ones faith is steadfast and unwavering, the toad is rough but the DESTINATION is a beautiful one if we See Dhruva, Markendaya, Prahalada, Hanuman, Annamacharya , Tyagaraja, Kabir, Tulsidas, Basaeshwara, Gnaneshwara, Sant Govind singh, Sri ramakrishna, Swami Vivekananda, Chaitanya prabhu, ramana Mahirishi and a the list is endless.. there is merit in every case. Best wishes prashant ________________________________ astroiniket <nakshtraniket Thursday, January 1, 2009 2:32:47 PM Re: swaha - why i am not agree dear friends do not include Bhakti in my saying. excluding that : as you are taking med, you have faith in med or not - no matter - if med is strong - and rightly prescribed - and diagnosed - you must see or feel effect of med. same Mantras : if you follow Perfect process, you have faith or not - no matter - your - (Selection of Mantra + process of Mantra + Materiel + strong will+ focus on target) must give you desired result. I am agree one must need a guru to understand and perform all this. BUT up to a certain level - horoscope - Grah (planets) - nakshtras - knowledge - mantras - yantras - tantra is identified but their is one more level beyond this level " Where all these things does not have any value - that is Bhakti. " in Bhakti nothing is required - Only unconditional love - rest is Headache of almighty and belief me you never feel any need to ask any thing. all will be taken care. and you will get all without doing any thing. as shree Hanuman Got ashirwad from Maa " Ajar, Amar, Gun Nidhi, Sut tum Hoyu " ( o my sun you will be sea of all Gunas, Siddhis, Nidhis, all type of wealth, you will be immortal, you never be old, you will be beyond time and it's control and effects) and see Lord hanuman is able to give any thing. a lot of can be said. but all these things can be written in words. rgds Niket , " Raja " <desi.raja@. ..> wrote: > > I stand corrected. Case studies i assume can be as emipirical proof > as any scientific verification. I was just attempting to balance the > arguments. > > , " astroiniket " > <nakshtraniket@ > wrote: > > > > dear Raja, > > in what context you are asking to prove ? what you want to verify ? > > pls clear dot points. > > > > rgds > > Niker > > , " Raja " <desi.raja@> wrote: > > > > > > see , what you two have been discussing is theoritical science > and > > in > > > no way it can empirically be verified hence there is no way for > > > proving who is right and who is not. Different mind has diffrent > > > theories and it very well may lead to a single ultimate > destination > > > but how do we verify as no such method exist to verify. > > > > > > fascinating. I am glad that i joined this group. > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > I fully agree with you :-) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []On Behalf Of > astroiniket > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:28 PM > > > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > > > > my dear friend - some time knowledge is door of Haven, and > some > > > time > > > > it is door of Hell. Depends. > > > > > > > > as almighty is concern - no knowledge is required. as world is > > > > concern a lot of knowledge is also very very less. > > > > > > > > kind regards > > > > Niket > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think Parashara and Neelakantha knows better than us. > > > > > > > > > > What you are telling is perfectly alright - when doing puja > > > without > > > > any > > > > > vasana and just for spiritual progress. But when material > > > progress > > > > is > > > > > required, rules are different. > > > > > > > > > > In your other mail you have mentioned that you have all the > > > books. > > > > Then you > > > > > must be knowing more than me. I do not have those books, > nor > > I > > > know > > > > > Sanskrit. I only follow my Guru's words. > > > > > > > > > > What you have mentioned about Dr. Srimali is your personal > > > openion. > > > > I do not > > > > > agree with it. I know him personally and got benefits. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I also do not follow the ideas of his family > > members > > > > holding the > > > > > reign. It is also my personal openion. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []On Behalf Of > > > astroiniket > > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha - why i am not agree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > > > 1. " When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. " > > > > > sir prefixing of Om cant remove any dosha of any mantra > there > > > are > > > > 32 > > > > > dosha in mantra - which only can be removed by doing perfect > > > > vidhana. > > > > > may see shloka in rgveda " asya mantrani karkam devhelnat " . > > > > > > > > > > 2. None of diety (form of almighty) is not bound only with > > > > planets. > > > > > as lord Hanuman was born on Tuesday so people consider him > > lord > > > of > > > > > Mars, and few people consider Lord Kartikey also lord of > > Mars. > > > in > > > > > actual it is nothing to do with Mars. Mars consider as > > > Bhumiputra > > > > is > > > > > govern by self. Mars is self demi diety. see refrence in > > > > > samveda " nanvatenya angaraka bhumiputro shivasya > saranchanam, > > > tsya > > > > > alokya...... may read full in original " . > > > > > > > > > > 3. All mantras have their own nature, yes agni Beez mantra > > cant > > > be > > > > > used with Jala Beez Mantra, but it can be used when Prana > > > > pratishtha > > > > > is needed for any mantra. > > > > > > > > > > 4. whom to worship for what - one has to worship only one > form > > > > which > > > > > one is his / her Ishta Devi or Devta. may be saakar rupa or > > > > nirakaar > > > > > rupa. > > > > > > > > > > their is nothing which your Ishta Dev or Devi cant give > you, > > > when > > > > you > > > > > leave your Isht and run here n their it means you have > doubt > > in > > > > his > > > > > or her powers, kindly remember Almighty is only one, have > all > > > > forms. > > > > > Rama or krishna or hanuman or shakti or ganesha or any one > > all > > > the > > > > > forms of one only one The Suprem Personality The Almighty > God. > > > > > > > > > > if one falls in Mantra then must know complete Vidhana, > > > otherwise > > > > do > > > > > just simple Prayer, Prayer is one of the most Powerful tool > in > > > > hand > > > > > of Human beings, Their all billions of people who even does > > not > > > > know > > > > > any Mantra, who even does not know Rama or Krishna, they > > worship > > > > The > > > > > almighty in other Form/s. most of people do only prayer on > > this > > > > earth. > > > > > > > > > > This all things only on your belief, what ever you belief, > it > > > > comes > > > > > in same reply. > > > > > > > > > > in end - ANY ONE WHO TAKE ALMIGHTY'S NAME - ANY NAME - OR > > PRAY > > > IN > > > > ANY > > > > > LANGUAGE OR FROM - MUST BLESSED. > > > > > > > > > > THEIR IS NO END OF DEBAIT, IT ALL MANTRA YANTRA ALL THESE > ARE > > > > BELIEFE > > > > > BASED ON ASTI OR NASTI ONLY. > > > > > > > > > > WORSHIP OF ALMIGHTY DOES NOT NEED ANY THING, NO MANTRA OR > > YANTRA > > > > IS > > > > > NEEDED - WHEN YOU CALL HIM BY YOUR HEART AND SOUL IN ANY > > > > LANGUAGE - > > > > > ALLWAYS ANSWERED - THE ONLY CONDITION YOU MUST BE CLEAN, > > CLEAR, > > > > PURE, > > > > > THEN ONLY REPLY WILL COME VERY FAST > > > > > > > > > > (EXAMPLE : when you boil water , if water is clean, clear, > > pure > > > it > > > > > take few minutes to boil, BUT if water is too mudy and > impure > > > and > > > > mix > > > > > of dirt or other things, it take long time to get boiled) > > > > > > > > > > Soul is like water, if it is clean , clear, pure, your > prayer > > > get > > > > > reply fast, but if it is not clean, clear, pure, Reply must > > come > > > > but > > > > > it will take it own time. > > > > > > > > > > By just chanting His/ Her name with unconditional love > > without > > > any > > > > > Vidhana, will clear your all karmas, your all impurity very > > fast > > > > and > > > > > you will be blessed. > > > > > > > > > > Even Though people want to Proseed Mantras then they Must > > know > > > all > > > > > about Mantra. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Niket > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > > > When you add OM, all doshas of the mantra is removed. > Else > > > there > > > > > are some > > > > > > perticular methods to match the mantra with the native. > > Else > > > it > > > > can > > > > > creat > > > > > > havoc. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know if Lord Hanuman is at all interested in > > > > protecting > > > > > you? Lord > > > > > > Hanuman is represented by Mars. It all depends upon the > > > > placement > > > > > of Mars in > > > > > > your chart. I know one case, where Mars was in 5H and he > > > started > > > > > chanting > > > > > > Hanuman mantra. His home started trembling. Why? because > any > > > > house > > > > > is maraka > > > > > > of the 12th house from it. 12th from 5th is 4th house > which > > is > > > > jala > > > > > tattwa. > > > > > > And tattwa of Mars is agni. So you can understand what > > > happened. > > > > > Either agni > > > > > > will get finished or jala will get finished. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are more things. You want protection from shatrus. > > None > > > > will > > > > > do it > > > > > > except your Palana Devata. It is denoted by the 6th > planet > > of > > > > the > > > > > 6th lord > > > > > > (if there is no planet) from Chara Amatma Karaka in > Navamsa. > > > > Also, > > > > > If any > > > > > > planet is sitting in 5th hose in rashi, that has got > power > > to > > > > make > > > > > one > > > > > > dance - specially so, if it is in dusthana from Lagna > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want spiritual progress, it is your Ista who will > > help. > > > > Ista > > > > > is > > > > > > denoted by the planet in 12th House or the 12th lord (if > > there > > > > is > > > > > no > > > > > > planet) from Chara Atma karaka. Which planet denotes which > > > > diety are > > > > > > explained in BPHS and Prashna Margam. > > > > > > > > > > > > So you see, that it is not necessary that your wish will > be > > > > > fullfilled by > > > > > > just reciting a mantra. I know one case, by reciting ari- > > > mantra, > > > > > one lost > > > > > > his only son. All these are to be seen while selecting a > > > mantra > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > person. These are all knowledges available in paramparas > > only. > > > > Pt. > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > Rath - in his book " Vedic Remedies in Astrology " has > brought > > > > out in > > > > > clarity. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is always better to recite the prashiddha mantras, > > > unless > > > > you > > > > > get > > > > > > proper guidance. I will try to make a brief write up on > > > mantra, > > > > > different > > > > > > types and how to understand the effect of any perticular > > > mantra > > > > and > > > > > post it > > > > > > in the list - whenever i find some time > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []On Behalf Of Raja > > > > > > Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasguptaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > i dont understand. This is a hanuman mantra supposed to > > > protect > > > > > from > > > > > > shatrus or rog etc so why do i have to be carefull? > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you stating that it is doing opposite than what i am > > > > thinking > > > > > it > > > > > > should? > > > > > > > > > > > > If i remove OM from it, it becomes 5 word, does that mean > > it'd > > > > > > strengthen lagna from 5th house? > > > > > > > > > > > > please shed some light. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > raja > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but be carefull what you want. This is a 6 words > and > > 13 > > > > > letter > > > > > > mantra. > > > > > > > That means it will draw energy from your shatrubhava or > > > > > rogabhava > > > > > > and give > > > > > > > result on yr lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []On Behalf Of > Raja > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so is it ok to chant swaha mantra i.e.. om shri hari > > > markatam > > > > > > > markatay swaha... without any homam ahuti..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Raja, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swaha and Swadha are two wives of Agni. Swaha is > > generalyy > > > > > used > > > > > > for > > > > > > > offering > > > > > > > > something to Devas or in homams and Swadha is used in > > > > sraddha > > > > > > > karmas for > > > > > > > > Pittris. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now there are many types of mantras. Two are main, i.e > > > > `Namah' > > > > > > > mantras where > > > > > > > > `Namah' is used at the end. These types of mantras > are > > for > > > > > > > surrender to the > > > > > > > > lord. But mantras ending with `Swaha' are somewhat > > forcing > > > > the > > > > > > > Devata to > > > > > > > > grant the result. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So `Namah' mantras are always better - as the Lord > knows > > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > > suitable for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > []On Behalf Of > > Raja > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > swaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many mantras have " swaha " at the end of them. I have > > read > > > > and > > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > during havana also that these kind of mantra > > > requires " homa " > > > > > > > (i.e.. > > > > > > > > some sort of havan ahuti) while chanting yet some > > mantras > > > i > > > > > have > > > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > are chanted with swaha on day to day basis where > there > > is > > > no > > > > > > > havan. I > > > > > > > > wanted to ask learned ones' opinion about this matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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