Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Please take care of yourself Tanvir, and place this in the hands of the Divine.. Would you kindly take me off of this list. Thank you. In a message dated 1/13/2009 11:50:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tanweera writes: Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish-from Jyotfrom Jyotish having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya.Australia, has m my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Tanvir, ///Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine./// What in God's holy name are you talking about? The article you speak of was in reference to Rahu. As for the reference to your articles, I stand by that 100%!! Don't forget Tanvir that, at that stage, you WERE a raw novice without the knowledge to write such articles. Of course that was many years ago and I'm sure you must have gained in knowledge since then. The article stands, Tanvir, as it was an example of Rahu in 10th. ///I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003./// Yes Tanvir, You founded JR not long after you first started studying jyotish. A raw novice at that stage. I remember this well because, as a member of my (original) forum, you asked numerous questions on a daily basis. Older members of my (original) forum, still with me today, can testify to the fact that I and other learned members bent over backwards to help you...do you remember this? You started your forum on a whim after Kundalika made a comment, quite innocently, that you took offence to. Believe me Tanvir, I remember you well. My memory certainly is not as good as it once was but I never forget anything related to jyotish-vidya or any of the young students who pass through on their way to other things. ///Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia,/// I should imagine that anyone with 21 years experience practicing jyotish (giving personal readings for most of those years) and running a jyotish forum for the last 8 yrs would have long since surpassed the rank of amateur. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, an amateur is someone who is attached to a particular pursuit, study or science without formal training or pay. Since I hold certificates in both Western and Vedic astrology and gave paid readings for some years before I retired, it would probably be better if you were to look for some other derogative label to pin to my name. It seems, like the comment from Kundalika so many years ago, that you're gravely wounded by the truth. With this in mind I'll try to change the wording to accommodate your sensibilities... Apart from this small modification the article stands as is! BTW I have not intercepted any messages from you, I have moderators who take care of that sort of thing for me. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http//JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - " Tanvir " <tanweera <jyotish-vidya-owner > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:12 AM Fw: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 AM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 BTW your chart was offered willingly on the original JyotishVidya forum for comment and study. It's therefore perfectly within my rights to comment on the chart... ________________________________ Tanvir, ///Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine./// What in God's holy name are you talking about? The article you speak of was in reference to Rahu. As for the reference to your articles, I stand by that 100%!! Don't forget Tanvir that, at that stage, you WERE a raw novice without the knowledge to write such articles. Of course that was many years ago and I'm sure you must have gained in knowledge since then. The article stands, Tanvir, as it was an example of Rahu in 10th. ///I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003./// Yes Tanvir, You founded JR not long after you first started studying jyotish. A raw novice at that stage. I remember this well because, as a member of my (original) forum, you asked numerous questions on a daily basis. Older members of my (original) forum, still with me today, can testify to the fact that I and other learned members bent over backwards to help you...do you remember this? You started your forum on a whim after Kundalika made a comment, quite innocently, that you took offence to. Believe me Tanvir, I remember you well. My memory certainly is not as good as it once was but I never forget anything related to jyotish-vidya or any of the young students who pass through on their way to other things. ///Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia,/// I should imagine that anyone with 21 years experience practicing jyotish (giving personal readings for most of those years) and running a jyotish forum for the last 8 yrs would have long since surpassed the rank of amateur. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, an amateur is someone who is attached to a particular pursuit, study or science without formal training or pay. Since I hold certificates in both Western and Vedic astrology and gave paid readings for some years before I retired, it would probably be better if you were to look for some other derogative label to pin to my name. It seems, like the comment from Kundalika so many years ago, that you're gravely wounded by the truth. With this in mind I'll try to change the wording to accommodate your sensibilities... Apart from this small modification the article stands as is! BTW I have not intercepted any messages from you, I have moderators who take care of that sort of thing for me. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http//JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - " Tanvir " <tanweera <jyotish-vidya-owner > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:12 AM Fw: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 AM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Tanvir: I am so sorry you have had this trouble, which obviously you have allowed to hurt you significantly. Does not the shastra advise against engaging in jalpa? There is an English saying about not casting one's pearls before swine. Once you determined Ms. Vasicek to be false, why bother to give her any more of your precious energy? I realize it can hurt to be falsely accused. I hope you consider the source and let it go. As a non-astrological FYI, you might want to check out: www.thework.org and read about the technique under the 'Resources' tab. I've found this a useful guide for living as advocated in Patanjali's Yoga Sutras. Best regards, Caegan --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera wrote: Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 AM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish- remedies. com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 The small modification made, should (hopefully) meet with your approval. http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm Thank You, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Cc: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:19 PM Re: Re: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com BTW your chart was offered willingly on the original JyotishVidya forum for comment and study. It's therefore perfectly within my rights to comment on the chart... ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Hello Tanvir, Can you give substantial evidence of information you say you can provide to back your claims? To publicly slander someone in public without proof, Unfortunately, undermines your stance and reputation. Uttara , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <tanweera wrote: > > Hello friends : > > I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later > around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away > from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish-remedies.com has been > having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now > days, nothing more than that really. > > Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from > Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya.com ] using > my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources > and published as mine. > > I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have > copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in > the forum. > > If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the > message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. > > I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical > and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she > didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why > she didn't let my message appear. > > I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be > a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let > members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She > never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the > sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the > discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates > a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, > or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also > before publishing - a total autocratic environment. > > She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my > message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his > opponents. > > I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an > argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing > his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and > created his own forum which was a successful one. > > Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site > I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no > technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so > the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for > yourself. > > I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a > very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before > leaving her forum. > > The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in > depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are > laughable and childish. > > I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after > being busy with personal works. > > I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have > copied. > > Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. > > She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for > four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge > AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and > comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages > before publishing / rejects them if go against her. > > I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my > forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment > was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me > to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the > democratic environment. > > Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a > way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she > deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present > one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. > > I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her > so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. > > She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher > but I hardly find any qualities in herself. > > Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have > been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. > > Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this > mean lady. > > Thanks > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Simply ignore! It is good for the soul!! <What is yours is forever yours! No one can take it away from you!!> Rohiniranjan , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <tanweera wrote: > > Hello friends : > > I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later > around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away > from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish-remedies.com has been > having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now > days, nothing more than that really. > > Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from > Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya.com ] using > my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources > and published as mine. > > I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have > copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in > the forum. > > If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the > message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. > > I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical > and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she > didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why > she didn't let my message appear. > > I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be > a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let > members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She > never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the > sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the > discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates > a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, > or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also > before publishing - a total autocratic environment. > > She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my > message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his > opponents. > > I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an > argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing > his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and > created his own forum which was a successful one. > > Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site > I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no > technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so > the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for > yourself. > > I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a > very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before > leaving her forum. > > The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in > depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are > laughable and childish. > > I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after > being busy with personal works. > > I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have > copied. > > Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. > > She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for > four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge > AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and > comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages > before publishing / rejects them if go against her. > > I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my > forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment > was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me > to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the > democratic environment. > > Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a > way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she > deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present > one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. > > I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her > so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. > > She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher > but I hardly find any qualities in herself. > > Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have > been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. > > Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this > mean lady. > > Thanks > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Tanvir, ///Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine./// What in God's holy name are you talking about? The article you speak of was in reference to Rahu. As for the reference to your articles, I stand by that 100%!! Don't forget Tanvir that, at that stage, you WERE a raw novice without the knowledge to write such articles. Of course that was many years ago and I'm sure you must have gained in knowledge since then. The article stands, Tanvir, as it was an example of Rahu in 10th. ///I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003./// Yes Tanvir, You founded JR not long after you first started studying jyotish. A raw novice at that stage. I remember this well because, as a member of my (original) forum, you asked numerous questions on a daily basis. Older members of my (original) forum, still with me today, can testify to the fact that I and other learned members bent over backwards to help you...do you remember this? You started your forum on a whim after Kundalika made a comment, quite innocently, that you took offence to. Believe me Tanvir, I remember you well. My memory certainly is not as good as it once was but I never forget anything related to jyotish-vidya or any of the young students who pass through on their way to other things. ///Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia,/// I should imagine that anyone with 21 years experience practicing jyotish (giving personal readings for most of those years) and running a jyotish forum for the last 8 yrs would have long since surpassed the rank of amateur. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, an amateur is someone who is attached to a particular pursuit, study or science without formal training or pay. Since I hold certificates in both Western and Vedic astrology and gave paid readings for some years before I retired, it would probably be better if you were to look for some other derogative label to pin to my name. It seems, like the comment from Kundalika so many years ago, that you're gravely wounded by the truth. With this in mind I'll try to change the wording to accommodate your sensibilities... Apart from this small modification the article stands as is! BTW I have not intercepted any messages from you, I have moderators who take care of that sort of thing for me. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http//JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - " Tanvir " <tanweera <jyotish-vidya-owner > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:12 AM Fw: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 AM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 BTW your chart was offered willingly on the original JyotishVidya forum for comment and study. It's therefore perfectly within my rights to comment on the chart... ________________________________ Tanvir, ///Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine./// What in God's holy name are you talking about? The article you speak of was in reference to Rahu. As for the reference to your articles, I stand by that 100%!! Don't forget Tanvir that, at that stage, you WERE a raw novice without the knowledge to write such articles. Of course that was many years ago and I'm sure you must have gained in knowledge since then. The article stands, Tanvir, as it was an example of Rahu in 10th. ///I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003./// Yes Tanvir, You founded JR not long after you first started studying jyotish. A raw novice at that stage. I remember this well because, as a member of my (original) forum, you asked numerous questions on a daily basis. Older members of my (original) forum, still with me today, can testify to the fact that I and other learned members bent over backwards to help you...do you remember this? You started your forum on a whim after Kundalika made a comment, quite innocently, that you took offence to. Believe me Tanvir, I remember you well. My memory certainly is not as good as it once was but I never forget anything related to jyotish-vidya or any of the young students who pass through on their way to other things. ///Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia,/// I should imagine that anyone with 21 years experience practicing jyotish (giving personal readings for most of those years) and running a jyotish forum for the last 8 yrs would have long since surpassed the rank of amateur. Actually, if I'm not mistaken, an amateur is someone who is attached to a particular pursuit, study or science without formal training or pay. Since I hold certificates in both Western and Vedic astrology and gave paid readings for some years before I retired, it would probably be better if you were to look for some other derogative label to pin to my name. It seems, like the comment from Kundalika so many years ago, that you're gravely wounded by the truth. With this in mind I'll try to change the wording to accommodate your sensibilities... Apart from this small modification the article stands as is! BTW I have not intercepted any messages from you, I have moderators who take care of that sort of thing for me. Thank You, Mrs. Wendy http//JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - " Tanvir " <tanweera <jyotish-vidya-owner > Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:12 AM Fw: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 AM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 The small modification made, should (hopefully) meet with your approval. http://jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm Thank You, Mrs.Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ________________________ - " Mrs. Wendy " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Cc: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:19 PM Re: Re: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com BTW your chart was offered willingly on the original JyotishVidya forum for comment and study. It's therefore perfectly within my rights to comment on the chart... ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 mr tanveer if you think you are correct you dont have ask from any one so plz stick with ur rules.live life like ur style regards NAVIN.K.LUND 0504960110 --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera wrote: Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 PM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish- remedies. com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Tanvir You are absolutely correct. It is the time when anyone can put a blame on any other person, and the person blamed is left to put himself or herself in correct perspective. I think you have done your bit, now it is up to the readers to understand who is correct and who is .........../ When you are putting a challenge and some is evading it, one should understand who is genuine please. Take care, the truth cann't be hide behind even 1000 curtains. rajeevkbangia --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 6:24 AM Simply ignore! It is good for the soul!! <What is yours is forever yours! No one can take it away from you!!> Rohiniranjan , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <tanweera@.. .> wrote: > > Hello friends : > > I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later > around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away > from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been > having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now > days, nothing more than that really. > > Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from > Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using > my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources > and published as mine. > > I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have > copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in > the forum. > > If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the > message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. > > I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical > and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she > didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why > she didn't let my message appear. > > I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be > a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let > members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She > never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the > sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the > discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates > a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, > or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also > before publishing - a total autocratic environment. > > She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my > message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his > opponents. > > I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an > argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing > his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and > created his own forum which was a successful one. > > Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site > I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no > technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so > the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for > yourself. > > I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a > very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before > leaving her forum. > > The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in > depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are > laughable and childish. > > I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after > being busy with personal works. > > I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have > copied. > > Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. > > She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for > four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge > AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and > comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages > before publishing / rejects them if go against her. > > I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my > forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment > was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me > to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the > democratic environment. > > Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a > way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she > deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present > one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. > > I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her > so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. > > She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher > but I hardly find any qualities in herself. > > Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have > been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. > > Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this > mean lady. > > Thanks > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish- remedies. com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Tanvirji, You have put across your point of view, and so has Mrs.Wendy. The matter must be put at rest, though you may be the aggrieved party, yet we have to understand that you are dealing with an old lady, one who must have been affectionate towards you in the past. Considering the law of average human span, without referiing to an individuals Life span, you must outlive her. In that case it makes no sense to keep any feelings which may cause discomfort to you for the rest of your life, against her. I am sure you would not like to carry any weight on your conscience and live with it. After having poured out your feelings, no further thoughts on same must enter your heart and mind now. Therefore, for past affections sake, and as being a respectable person just like everyone is normally, I request you to set the points of contention aside and forget the episode without causing further sorrow to yourself or anyone else connected with this. Just for your information, I too have stopped writing there in JV, due to strictness of Mrs.Wendy, but am a member of her forum, and still bear affections for her. I respect her for her knowledge, age, and aware she has just lost her close relatives one by one. Instead of staying in her forum and being cause of discomfort to her, I have thus opted to remain out while retaining attachment for past times sake. When compatibilty is not there its better to stay away , but yet remain cordial. I hope this mail finds you in the best of health and amidst great progress in Life. You have my good wishes always. This Forum will forever remain my first home among Jyotish Internet, and do bear some filial affections towards this Group. regards, Bhaskar. , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <tanweera wrote: > > Hello friends : > > I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later > around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away > from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish-remedies.com has been > having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now > days, nothing more than that really. > > Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from > Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya.com ] using > my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources > and published as mine. > > I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have > copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in > the forum. > > If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the > message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. > > I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical > and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she > didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why > she didn't let my message appear. > > I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be > a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let > members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She > never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the > sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the > discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates > a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, > or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also > before publishing - a total autocratic environment. > > She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my > message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his > opponents. > > I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an > argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing > his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and > created his own forum which was a successful one. > > Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site > I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no > technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so > the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for > yourself. > > I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a > very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before > leaving her forum. > > The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in > depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are > laughable and childish. > > I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after > being busy with personal works. > > I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have > copied. > > Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. > > She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for > four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge > AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and > comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages > before publishing / rejects them if go against her. > > I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my > forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment > was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me > to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the > democratic environment. > > Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a > way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she > deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present > one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. > > I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her > so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. > > She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher > but I hardly find any qualities in herself. > > Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have > been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. > > Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this > mean lady. > > Thanks > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Navin quite often we may get carried away but both of them have done Jyotish a lot by their dedication and depth in the subject so we must help them forget any past bad times unite and spread Jyotish more vigourously as with so many new challanges the world is facing due to the global ecconomic melt down Jyotishya alone can do a good job so we need more hands and eyes to do the job each one his bit can help many more depressed ppl knowledge is for sharing anyway and they have both created 2 wonderful groups.I am sure this bad phase will fade away in time jsut started to read todays posts. best wishes prashant ________________________________ lund navin <navin1974in Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:30:55 AM Re: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com mr tanveer if you think you are correct you dont have ask from any one so plz stick with ur rules.live life like ur style regards NAVIN.K.LUND 0504960110 --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera (AT) zipbd (DOT) com> wrote: Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera (AT) zipbd (DOT) com> Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya. com Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:50 PM Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish- remedies. com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Dear Tanvir An astrologer should know & also hv this realisation that every one reacts & behaves according to ones planets placed in one's respective kundali. If u r pointing about Mrs Wendy what she has done & what she is doing, it is all happening because of the kind of stars palced in her kundali. Now coming to ur subject I am new in this forum just 3 to 4 months old, I hv never heard of u, & after a period of so many years why is that u r pointing out the modesty of Mrs. Wendy. This site is to promote astrology & solve problems astrologically & not wash one's dirtly linen. If u hv a problem with Wendy or if Wendy has a problem with u why can't u solve it in private mails. Why create more conflicts. Astrologers solve conflicts for others but astrologers amongst themselves start creating conflicts, then who will hv faith in the astrologers in this forum or even any other forum. Mr Tanvir please do not get any entangle with Mrs. Wendy or anyone else. If Any person has done anything wrong or does any wrong to anyone else does faces karmic reactions. Let laws of nature take its own course.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA)  ________________________________ Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wednesday, 14 January, 2009 1:20:26 AM Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish- remedies. com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 ll HARE RAM ll Dear Mr.Harry, I am agreed with you that this problem could be solved through private mail.There was no need to disclose to the forum.If her reaction is harsh on JV forum,it is her own matter and she serve the quernts almost regularly even though she had to suffer a lot in her family.We all so called astrologers give the references of our texts & /or saints & /or give the examples of celebrities & /or taken from others sources quite frequently.So we should go ahead to forget it. Good wishes Shashi Shekher " Shaaswat " Shashi S.Sharma [Vedic Astrologer & Gems Advisor] [Member-Planetary Gemologists Association,Bangkok,Thailand] www.freewebs.com/astroremedies Delhi,Cell-09818310075, E-mail: polite_astro [Private consultation is chargeable.Please contact me in shaaswat.jyotish ] Live and Let Live --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 Re: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 3:26 PM Dear Tanvir An astrologer should know & also hv this realisation that every one reacts & behaves according to ones planets placed in one's respective kundali. If u r pointing about Mrs Wendy what she has done & what she is doing, it is all happening because of the kind of stars palced in her kundali. Now coming to ur subject I am new in this forum just 3 to 4 months old, I hv never heard of u, & after a period of so many years why is that u r pointing out the modesty of Mrs. Wendy. This site is to promote astrology & solve problems astrologically & not wash one's dirtly linen. If u hv a problem with Wendy or if Wendy has a problem with u why can't u solve it in private mails. Why create more conflicts. Astrologers solve conflicts for others but astrologers amongst themselves start creating conflicts, then who will hv faith in the astrologers in this forum or even any other forum. Mr Tanvir please do not get any entangle with Mrs. Wendy or anyone else. If Any person has done anything wrong or does any wrong to anyone else does faces karmic reactions. Let laws of nature take its own course. GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) ________________________________ Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera Wednesday, 14 January, 2009 1:20:26 AM Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Hello friends : I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in 2003. Later around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, stepping away from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish- remedies. com has been having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid readings now days, nothing more than that really. Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur astrologer from Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya. com ] using my birth information that I have copied articles from other sources and published as mine. I joined her forum and asked her to point out which articles I have copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even published in the forum. If she was truthful she would answer me. She even didn't let the message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she would give. I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, unethical and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely cowardice... she didn't even have the guts, to face my question in public that is why she didn't let my message appear. I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had seen it to be a tradition over there to remove members / force members / let members leave who disagree to her concepts in any discussion. She never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even for the sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes the discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - and creates a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has to leave, or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the messages also before publishing - a total autocratic environment. She has the absolute power over her forum, like she didn't let my message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat his opponents. I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his locality, in an argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was editing his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He then left and created his own forum which was a successful one. Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In her site I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, has no technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer of her, so the articles was praised and published. Please go there, and see for yourself. I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a flatterer in a very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long back before leaving her forum. The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously lack in depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and Jaimini are laughable and childish. I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and energy after being busy with personal works. I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles I have copied. Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. She is much older to me by age, and still after having no study for four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish knowledge AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the guts and comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits messages before publishing / rejects them if go against her. I never screened messages before publishing to win arguments in my forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive environment was created, and it was done long after a lot of people requested me to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers the democratic environment. Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other members in a way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when once she deleted her forum out of shame and later created another one [present one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using for her so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great spiritual teacher but I hardly find any qualities in herself. Much can be written about herself, and old members here, who have been / had been a member of her forum already know about her. Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and face this mean lady. Thanks Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish- remedies. com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 [This post focusses about current Jyotish standards and Wendy.] Prashant Ji and others - I have not done anything in Jyotish. Two years of some free chart readings, and writing of some articles is all I have done. This is NOTHING. I repeat - nothing. I say this because most of us practice a SO-CALLED JYOTISH. It is far away from what the real Jyotish is. I'm telling you. Jyotish is different from what we learn from scriptures and even books of many so-called well known writers. I SAY THIS BECAUSE if you sit with the books and try to apply such knowledge then you can't even explain 80% of past of a native then how can you predict future correctly? STILL explaining past is something EASY because to match the past events people start using very uncommon concepts which they NEVER USE other times while analyzing a chart. Myself given chart data to ask scholars to explain some events and noone could satisfy me. THAT IS WHY I am saying that LOTS OF WORKS to be done to recover the real Jyotish SO THAT it becomes accurate enough to be called to be a science and establish itself like medicine, physics, chemistry etc. A good 10-12 should be dedicated for that. Lots of research has to be done. Anyways now people act that they know everything. Giving you the closest example we have, OUR HONOURABLE WENDY, she speaks A LOT about Jaimini astrology, it is very funny the way she wrote about Jaimini in her forum's home page and to support her position she scanned a page and put it in her forum. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HIGHEST IGNORANCE [PARAM MURKHTA]. This respected old lady, sounds an ALL KNOWING OF JAIMINI, the way she declared that Parasara Hora was CORRUPT to enter Jaimini lines into itself. However, this is a sad fact for STUDENTS LIKE US that this respected all-knowing ma'am who is so well versed in Jaimini astrology, she knows so much about Jaimini astrology to declare a scripture to be corrupt, HAS NEVER EVER SEEN BY ME [OR ANYONE ELSE?] TO USE JAIMINI ASTROLOGY TO READ ANY CHARTS TO EXPLAIN PAST / PREDICT FUTURE or anything. Since her write ups and comments clearly shows that she studied Jaimini a lot, DEEP ENOUGH TO comment and compare two great scriptures AND EVENTUALLY declare one CORRUPT - how come she never taught us, enlightened us with the method of Jaimini chart - reading? Has anyone seen her doing so? I would like this Jaimini scholar to show us [with practical chart] how she studies charts in Jaimini method. I have studied Jaimini to a good extent SINCE LITTLE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME and I would like to dicuss Jaimini with Wendy and clarify my questions I have got while studying Jaimini. Let this all-knowing Jaimini scholar teach us some Jaimini, who has generously compared scriptures and scanned book-page to support her. She has simply lied in todays / yesterdays reply - providing false information. I will write a separate mail about it then close the thread. Thanks, Tanvir What cannot happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem solving remedies Where relief and solutions are found - Prashant Kumar G B Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:32 PM Re: Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com Dear Navin quite often we may get carried away but both of them have done Jyotish a lot by their dedication and depth in the subject so we must help them forget any past bad times unite and spread Jyotish more vigourously as with so many new challanges the world is facing due to the global ecconomic melt down Jyotishya alone can do a good job so we need more hands and eyes to do the job each one his bit can help many more depressed ppl knowledge is for sharing anyway and they have both created 2 wonderful groups.I am sure this bad phase will fade away in time jsut started to read todays posts. best wishes prashant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Dear Tanvir, Its really frustrating to learn about Wendy. Lets now really collect her articles and show the world, all the areas where she has been wrong. --- On Wed, 14/1/09, Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera wrote: > Tanvir Chowdhury <tanweera > Wendy Vasicek / www.jyotishvidya.com > > Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 1:20 AM > Hello friends : > > I am the founder of this forum, which I founded back in > 2003. Later > around 2005 or so, I got busy with my personal works, > stepping away > from Jyotish activities. My site www.jyotish-remedies.com > has been > having no update since then. I am only doing a few paid > readings now > days, nothing more than that really. > > Someone informed me that Wendy Vasicek, an amateur > astrologer from > Australia, has mentioned in her site [ www.jyotishvidya.com > ] using > my birth information that I have copied articles from other > sources > and published as mine. > > I joined her forum and asked her to point out which > articles I have > copied. An answer was far away, my message was not even > published in > the forum. > > If she was truthful she would answer me. She even > didn't let the > message appear in her forum, being afraid what answer she > would give. > > I am totally annoyed and irritated in such unprofessional, > unethical > and falsehood behaviour from her. This is absolutely > cowardice... she > didn't even have the guts, to face my question in > public that is why > she didn't let my message appear. > > I had been a member of her forum in 2002 - 2003 and had > seen it to be > a tradition over there to remove members / force members / > let > members leave who disagree to her concepts in any > discussion. She > never tolerates any opposition in a discussion - not even > for the > sake of academic learning or anything. Quickly she takes > the > discussion to a personal level, heats the discussion up - > and creates > a disrespectful condition for the other person that he has > to leave, > or she does it by herself. That is why she screens the > messages also > before publishing - a total autocratic environment. > > She has the absolute power over her forum, like she > didn't let my > message publish. She uses such mean techniques to defeat > his > opponents. > > I can name an astrologer who is very famous in his > locality, in an > argument he clearly declared that Wendy, as moderator, was > editing > his posts in her way and only then let them publish. He > then left and > created his own forum which was a successful one. > > Also there are no less of those flatterers in her forum. In > her site > I find * some * articles which are of very below standard, > has no > technical depth - but only the writer is a close flatterer > of her, so > the articles was praised and published. Please go there, > and see for > yourself. > > I myself left her forum when she took a side of such a > flatterer in a > very naked and odd way. However, I created my forum long > back before > leaving her forum. > > The concepts and theories she uses to read charts seriously > lack in > depth, and the arguments she provide about Parasara and > Jaimini are > laughable and childish. > > I can write a lot about those, just I lack in time and > energy after > being busy with personal works. > > I [ again ] ask her to point before you all which articles > I have > copied. > > Ignorance and arrogance should have a limit. > > She is much older to me by age, and still after having no > study for > four years I ask her to come forward and test my Jyotish > knowledge > AGAINST HERS. That is possible if she agrees having the > guts and > comes to a neutral platform, not her forum where she edits > messages > before publishing / rejects them if go against her. > > I never screened messages before publishing to win > arguments in my > forum. Only recently I did, as you all know what abusive > environment > was created, and it was done long after a lot of people > requested me > to do that. I feel screening / rejecting messages hampers > the > democratic environment. > > Her so-called jyotish knowledge was challenged by other > members in a > way that she totally lost the respect as a moderator when > once she > deleted her forum out of shame and later created another > one [present > one] renamed it from JyotishVidya to Jyotish-Vidya. > > I can demonstrate against a lot of concepts she keeps using > for her > so-called chart reading, and I can write much on that. > > She also claims herself to be a disciple of a great > spiritual teacher > but I hardly find any qualities in herself. > > Much can be written about herself, and old members here, > who have > been / had been a member of her forum already know about > her. > > Friends, please advise me what should I do to handle and > face this > mean lady. > > Thanks > Tanvir > > > > What cannot happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > http://www.jyotish-remedies.com - Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) > Predictive astrology with incredibly powerful problem > solving remedies > Where relief and solutions are found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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