Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hallo Everyone If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG Please forward to me Thanks with regards Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Vijay, There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN Rao will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never mentions about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes another name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how can those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it stop him from being a " Mahatma " ?? Else, you can read from my blog. gauravastro.blogspot.com Thank you, . , vijay palaskar <vijay_palaskar2002 wrote: > > Hallo Everyone > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > Please forward to me > Thanks > with regards > Vijay > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear Gaurav, If you are so humble as you say on your blog, how you are so sure about what you have written? We are using many things which are not there in sastras directly, but given by parampara. Its standart process of learning for those who are being taught under some Guru. Even classical authors sometimes dont agree on some principles therefore there are many school which follows Kalyan Veerma, Varahamihira, Sripati etc. Kalasarpa/mrta remedies are not costly, it demands usually intiation of Devi sadhana given by genuine priests. Quoting some scholars will not make you representative as they are for their pupils, KN Rao have something to say in this regard, and his statement is being respected, but they are also other opinions which are important to check in practice. In my history of readings I found these yogas working perfectly if you know how to deal with them. There are only few sastras left after the english/muslim invasion, but I think you know about that better than myself. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > Dear Vijay, > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN Rao > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never mentions > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes another > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how can > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it stop > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > Else, you can read from my blog. > gauravastro. blogspot. com > Thank you, > . > > > <%40>, vijay palaskar > <vijay_palaskar2002 wrote: > > > > Hallo Everyone > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > Please forward to me > > Thanks > > with regards > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 dear friends ksy is the most oft repeated discussion thread in many groups and everytime we say the same thing. any astrologer can have his own opinion and some take strong siding of one view which is fine upto them but in this free world, natives have the liberty to form their own opinion instead of blindly following what is said by mr x or mr y or what is written or unwritten in scriptures after studying all and applying logic and intellect. my request to natives is that they shall note that many yogas like the ones listed below do not find their mention in the scriptures: kala sarpa yoga kala amrita yoga grahana yoga neecha bhanga raja yoga uchha bhanga daridraya yoga vipareeta raja yoga in ancient classics, no yoga was mentioned with the nodes as all yogas were given only with the seven planets, so much so that the conjunction results of only seven planets were given and rahu and ketu are excluded which is a later day addition. once the little master was battling with his bat for more than 80 matches and he could not get a century. it is the typical trait of a kalasarpayoga and he visited several holy pilgrimage places and did remedies and then onwards he conquered the world blasting with his bat. hence my request to gauravji is that for those who believe in a yoga of a mythical planet, it is only faith that makes the native do remedies and get benefited since is it mythological in nature. have suggested simple, free, zero expense and inexpensive remedies for natives of kalasarpa yoga in earlier threads on the subject and natives do these remedies who believe in invisible dark planets as much as they believe in the visible luminaries. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Vijay, > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN Rao > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never mentions > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes another > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how can > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it stop > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > Else, you can read from my blog. > gauravastro.blogspot.com > Thank you, > . > > > > > , vijay palaskar > <vijay_palaskar2002@> wrote: > > > > Hallo Everyone > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > Please forward to me > > Thanks > > with regards > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Rafal, Two years before, in this time, we were fighting with each other, when you said that a partial yoga is enough for fulfilling any results(if you dont remember, go through the archives of VA regarding Matsya Yoga). However, I dont want to get into any kind of controvery with anyone. What is truth to me, is truth to me. What is truth to you, is truth to you. If I believe in something, I should tell everyone, however, its upto them to accept them or discard as per their capability of " digestion " . I dont represent anyone but Astrology in forums & in personal life I represent mylife, while in my occupation I represent the hotel & hospitality Industry. Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Gaurav, > > If you are so humble as you say on your blog, how you are so sure about > what you have written? > > We are using many things which are not there in sastras directly, but > given by parampara. Its standart process of learning for those > who are being taught under some Guru. Even classical authors sometimes > dont agree on some principles therefore > there are many school which follows Kalyan Veerma, Varahamihira, Sripati > etc. Kalasarpa/mrta remedies are not costly, > it demands usually intiation of Devi sadhana given by genuine priests. > Quoting some scholars will not make you representative > as they are for their pupils, KN Rao have something to say in this > regard, and his statement is being respected, but they are > also other opinions which are important to check in practice. In my > history of readings I found these yogas working perfectly > if you know how to deal with them. There are only few sastras left after > the english/muslim invasion, but I think you know > about that better than myself. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > Dear Vijay, > > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN Rao > > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never mentions > > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes another > > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . > > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its > > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how can > > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can > > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even > > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the > > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it stop > > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > > Else, you can read from my blog. > > gauravastro. blogspot. com > > Thank you, > > . > > > > > > <%40>, vijay palaskar > > <vijay_palaskar2002 wrote: > > > > > > Hallo Everyone > > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > > Please forward to me > > > Thanks > > > with regards > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Dear Shri Arjun,Gaurav and others, Life of normal being is always full of hopes and despair.Reasons that matter for human endeavours might differ from individual to individual. If I take my own case I was just struggling (at 22+age once)as I became independent and started my own life.Somehow not happy with the lot,I consulted an Astrologer,very reputed not expecting to burden the clients with high consultation fee.His words are worth recollection here in the group: The life of building up career.materialising events,really start happening only around thirty plus years(normally in any body's life).If it happens to be rasis belonging to saturn say Capricorn and aquarius etc,this may go up to 35+yrs. Perhaps in our curiosity and ofcourse frustation any body looks for guidance.Astrologer a professional or our family soothsayer is identified as right person. After seeing the chart or knowing through Prashna chart Jyotish tries tries to make out and deciphers inconclusively by advancing his thoughts.In those thoughts figure all the yogas not included classicals.KSY or KAY that way or other yogas no exception including vipareeta raja yoga. The doubts that linger for common man remain unsolved giving importance to Kalsarpa yoga and all other similar yogas. Human beings in their resolve to overcome hurdles is ready and eager to take all advices.Ofcourse septics have their own ways of logic to question veracity of these yogas. Infact I for one such suggestions from remedial points of worship,pooja should be welcomed if not meant for commercial exploitation.Always quacks and crooks have always rooms to to take advantage of human weakeness.One has to be beware abour such attempts. with so much publicity of temples and TVs showing regular features on Kalasarpa yoga I have come to believe it's existence as Rahu as a node or ketu as headless planet has no significance as long as human endeavours do not succeed in getting desired results. Let's us accept that KSY has acquired with acuired faith has become a yoga outside classics.In modern times,we need also understand how stiff competition makes the struggle for existence still makes critiacal.The resolve to overcome problems by way of consultation and remedies help individuals to improve confidence and analyse how their efforts need further strengthening by way of prayers,poojas etc.Not a bad approach in the process if somebody makes life through his exploitation.we need to harmonise issues as we can not convince people holding different views and opinions. vrkrishnan --- On Thu, 1/15/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Re: Kalsarp-Please Forward Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:57 PM dear friends ksy is the most oft repeated discussion thread in many groups and everytime we say the same thing. any astrologer can have his own opinion and some take strong siding of one view which is fine upto them but in this free world, natives have the liberty to form their own opinion instead of blindly following what is said by mr x or mr y or what is written or unwritten in scriptures after studying all and applying logic and intellect. my request to natives is that they shall note that many yogas like the ones listed below do not find their mention in the scriptures: kala sarpa yoga kala amrita yoga grahana yoga neecha bhanga raja yoga uchha bhanga daridraya yoga vipareeta raja yoga in ancient classics, no yoga was mentioned with the nodes as all yogas were given only with the seven planets, so much so that the conjunction results of only seven planets were given and rahu and ketu are excluded which is a later day addition. once the little master was battling with his bat for more than 80 matches and he could not get a century. it is the typical trait of a kalasarpayoga and he visited several holy pilgrimage places and did remedies and then onwards he conquered the world blasting with his bat. hence my request to gauravji is that for those who believe in a yoga of a mythical planet, it is only faith that makes the native do remedies and get benefited since is it mythological in nature. have suggested simple, free, zero expense and inexpensive remedies for natives of kalasarpa yoga in earlier threads on the subject and natives do these remedies who believe in invisible dark planets as much as they believe in the visible luminaries. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com , " " <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > Dear Vijay, > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN Rao > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never mentions > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes another > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how can > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it stop > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > Else, you can read from my blog. > gauravastro. blogspot. com > Thank you, > . > > > > > , vijay palaskar > <vijay_palaskar2002 @> wrote: > > > > Hallo Everyone > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > Please forward to me > > Thanks > > with regards > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Thanks for sharing your views/observations on much talked Kalsarpa- Yoga..! I have a query and would appreciate if you could kindly shed some light on this.. If any ONE of the 7 planets is outside the axis of Rahu/Ketu then is it termed as Partial KalaSarpa Yoga OR there's NO KalSarpa Yoga at all? Regards Chandu2Chill , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Chiranjaviji, In application, it does not matter from wherever you may count this. If I have 5 wives , from whomever you start counting first, You will still end in the number 5. If I had just had a bhelpuri, the stomache will contain the same, and the effects would be felt everywhere, and not just on a single part of the stomache. the satisfaction of the taste of Bhelpuri would be felt on the whole tongue and not on a part of it. Rahu ketu are retrograde always, so actually they are to be termed as Direct in parlance of exchange . Those planets who deviate from their paths are actually known sometimes as retrograde and sometimes as Direct. The motion of the Nodes beingn same always is actually known always as direct though by definition it is Retrograde. ( I will not expand if this is understood ). During the planets being hemmed between Rahu and Ketu, if You stand near Rahu and see, you will find the planets still hemmed between Rahu and Ketu, and if you stand near Ketu and see, you will still again see the planets being hemmed bewteen Rahu and Ketu. Like a transparent rubber ball containing small pebbles, from wherever you turn or see, the pebbles will still be in the ball in the centre. Thus it does not matter from wherever you began the cpounting. The point is - That the planets must be bewteen this axis. Now a technical point remains to be answered. This axis may begin from any of the houses in the chart. How many houses are there ? 12. How many types of Kalasarpa Yoga are there ? 12. Hope you got the answer of your query. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear Pandit , If my memory serves me right then Vipareet Rajayoga is mentioned in Uttara Kalamrta. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ > > dear friends > > ksy is the most oft repeated discussion thread in many groups and > everytime we say the same thing. > > any astrologer can have his own opinion and some take strong siding > of one view which is fine upto them but in this free world, natives > have the liberty to form their own opinion instead of blindly > following what is said by mr x or mr y or what is written or > unwritten in scriptures after studying all and applying logic and > intellect. > > my request to natives is that they shall note that many yogas like > the ones listed below do not find their mention in the scriptures: > > kala sarpa yoga > kala amrita yoga > grahana yoga > neecha bhanga raja yoga > uchha bhanga daridraya yoga > vipareeta raja yoga > > in ancient classics, no yoga was mentioned with the nodes as all > yogas were given only with the seven planets, so much so that the > conjunction results of only seven planets were given and rahu and > ketu are excluded which is a later day addition. > > once the little master was battling with his bat for more than 80 > matches and he could not get a century. it is the typical trait of a > kalasarpayoga and he visited several holy pilgrimage places and did > remedies and then onwards he conquered the world blasting with his > bat. > > hence my request to gauravji is that for those who believe in a yoga > of a mythical planet, it is only faith that makes the native do > remedies and get benefited since is it mythological in nature. > > have suggested simple, free, zero expense and inexpensive remedies > for natives of kalasarpa yoga in earlier threads on the subject and > natives do these remedies who believe in invisible dark planets as > much as they believe in the visible luminaries. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > <%40>, " " > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > Dear Vijay, > > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN > Rao > > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never > mentions > > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes > another > > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . > > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its > > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how > can > > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can > > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even > > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the > > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it > stop > > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > > Else, you can read from my blog. > > gauravastro. blogspot. com > > Thank you, > > . > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, vijay palaskar > > <vijay_palaskar2002 @> wrote: > > > > > > Hallo Everyone > > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > > Please forward to me > > > Thanks > > > with regards > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Dear Chandu 2 chill, Technically there would be no Kala Sarpa Dosha. I will give you the reasoning why ? Among the Akruti Yogas, there is one Yoga known as Chhatra Yoga where this Yoga is formed when all seven planets occupy one Bhava each commencing from the seventh house ( eg,7,8,9,10,11 , 12 and Lagna) without a single Bhava being vacant. Now suppose the last planet does not fall in Lagna but falls in the 2nd house, would you call it a Akruti Yoga ? Or a partial Chatra Yoga ? There is no terminology such as this. Either this Yoga is there, or is not there. Same way among the Sankhya Yogas, there is one Yoga known as Gol Yoga , which manifests when all 7 Planets occupy only one Bhava in a Horoscope ( This happenned last on 5th Feb 1962) . Now even if one planet is in another House, will you call it as Gol Yoga ? No. Thus theres nothing like Partial kala Sarpa Yoga. But yes, the Kundli may by shraapit which has to be checked through certain parameters. regards, Bhaskar. , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > Thanks for sharing your views/observations on much talked Kalsarpa-> Yoga..!> > I have a query and would appreciate if you could kindly shed some > light on this..> > If any ONE of the 7 planets is outside the axis of Rahu/Ketu then is > it termed as Partial KalaSarpa Yoga OR there's NO KalSarpa Yoga at > all?> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill> > > , "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > Dear Chiranjaviji,> > In application, it does not matter from wherever you may count this. > If I have 5 wives , from whomever you start counting first, You will > still end in the number 5. If I had just had a bhelpuri, the > stomache will contain the same, and the effects would be felt > everywhere, and not just on a single part of the stomache. the > satisfaction of the taste of Bhelpuri would be felt on the whole > tongue and not on a part of it.> > Rahu ketu are retrograde always, so actually they are to be termed as> Direct in parlance of exchange . Those planets who deviate from their> paths are actually known sometimes as retrograde and sometimes as> Direct. The motion of the Nodes beingn same always is actually known> always as direct though by definition it is Retrograde. ( I will not> expand if this is understood ).> > During the planets being hemmed between Rahu and Ketu, if You stand > near Rahu and see, you will find the planets still hemmed between > Rahu and Ketu, and if you stand near Ketu and see, you will still > again see the planets being hemmed bewteen Rahu and Ketu. Like a > transparent rubber ball containing small pebbles, from wherever you > turn or see, the pebbles will still be in the ball in the centre.> > Thus it does not matter from wherever you began the cpounting. The > point is - That the planets must be bewteen this axis.> > Now a technical point remains to be answered. This axis may begin from> any of the houses in the chart. How many houses are there ? 12. How> many types of Kalasarpa Yoga are there ? 12.> > Hope you got the answer of your query.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 dear friend my observation of nodes not included in the yogas is from ancient classics like the horas, shastras and samhitas of the sages. uttarakalamrita is a medieval text by kalidasa. viparita rajayoga is also observed in three different names by shri b.v.raman too. anyway since i am for and supportive of the belief in these yogas by the natives, if you find them corroborative, it is even better. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Pandit , > > If my memory serves me right then Vipareet Rajayoga is mentioned in > Uttara Kalamrta. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > dear friends > > > > ksy is the most oft repeated discussion thread in many groups and > > everytime we say the same thing. > > > > any astrologer can have his own opinion and some take strong siding > > of one view which is fine upto them but in this free world, natives > > have the liberty to form their own opinion instead of blindly > > following what is said by mr x or mr y or what is written or > > unwritten in scriptures after studying all and applying logic and > > intellect. > > > > my request to natives is that they shall note that many yogas like > > the ones listed below do not find their mention in the scriptures: > > > > kala sarpa yoga > > kala amrita yoga > > grahana yoga > > neecha bhanga raja yoga > > uchha bhanga daridraya yoga > > vipareeta raja yoga > > > > in ancient classics, no yoga was mentioned with the nodes as all > > yogas were given only with the seven planets, so much so that the > > conjunction results of only seven planets were given and rahu and > > ketu are excluded which is a later day addition. > > > > once the little master was battling with his bat for more than 80 > > matches and he could not get a century. it is the typical trait of a > > kalasarpayoga and he visited several holy pilgrimage places and did > > remedies and then onwards he conquered the world blasting with his > > bat. > > > > hence my request to gauravji is that for those who believe in a yoga > > of a mythical planet, it is only faith that makes the native do > > remedies and get benefited since is it mythological in nature. > > > > have suggested simple, free, zero expense and inexpensive remedies > > for natives of kalasarpa yoga in earlier threads on the subject and > > natives do these remedies who believe in invisible dark planets as > > much as they believe in the visible luminaries. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > <%40>, " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > Dear Vijay, > > > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree KN > > Rao > > > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never > > mentions > > > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes > > another > > > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita yoga " . > > > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent on its > > > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, how > > can > > > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > > > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You can > > > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such Fright?? " Even > > > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as the > > > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did it > > stop > > > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > > > Else, you can read from my blog. > > > gauravastro. blogspot. com > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, vijay palaskar > > > <vijay_palaskar2002 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hallo Everyone > > > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > > > Please forward to me > > > > Thanks > > > > with regards > > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Panditji, Is it true that when Brihaspati Maharaj assumes the neechavastha it becomes an uphill battle regarding the very theme and point you are trying to make? Perhaps we should wait for Guru Maharaj to move out of 'acceleration' and into Meena! Or who knows one may have to wait till it arrives in Karkata! RR , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend > > my observation of nodes not included in the yogas is from ancient > classics like the horas, shastras and samhitas of the sages. > > uttarakalamrita is a medieval text by kalidasa. viparita rajayoga is > also observed in three different names by shri b.v.raman too. > > anyway since i am for and supportive of the belief in these yogas by > the natives, if you find them corroborative, it is even better. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , Rafał Gendarz > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > Dear Pandit , > > > > If my memory serves me right then Vipareet Rajayoga is mentioned in > > Uttara Kalamrta. > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > -------------- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa.com > > rafal@/ > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > ksy is the most oft repeated discussion thread in many groups and > > > everytime we say the same thing. > > > > > > any astrologer can have his own opinion and some take strong > siding > > > of one view which is fine upto them but in this free world, > natives > > > have the liberty to form their own opinion instead of blindly > > > following what is said by mr x or mr y or what is written or > > > unwritten in scriptures after studying all and applying logic and > > > intellect. > > > > > > my request to natives is that they shall note that many yogas like > > > the ones listed below do not find their mention in the scriptures: > > > > > > kala sarpa yoga > > > kala amrita yoga > > > grahana yoga > > > neecha bhanga raja yoga > > > uchha bhanga daridraya yoga > > > vipareeta raja yoga > > > > > > in ancient classics, no yoga was mentioned with the nodes as all > > > yogas were given only with the seven planets, so much so that the > > > conjunction results of only seven planets were given and rahu and > > > ketu are excluded which is a later day addition. > > > > > > once the little master was battling with his bat for more than 80 > > > matches and he could not get a century. it is the typical trait > of a > > > kalasarpayoga and he visited several holy pilgrimage places and > did > > > remedies and then onwards he conquered the world blasting with his > > > bat. > > > > > > hence my request to gauravji is that for those who believe in a > yoga > > > of a mythical planet, it is only faith that makes the native do > > > remedies and get benefited since is it mythological in nature. > > > > > > have suggested simple, free, zero expense and inexpensive remedies > > > for natives of kalasarpa yoga in earlier threads on the subject > and > > > natives do these remedies who believe in invisible dark planets as > > > much as they believe in the visible luminaries. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Vijay, > > > > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree > KN > > > Rao > > > > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never > > > mentions > > > > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes > > > another > > > > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita > yoga " . > > > > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent > on its > > > > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, > how > > > can > > > > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > > > > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You > can > > > > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such > Fright?? " Even > > > > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as > the > > > > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did > it > > > stop > > > > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > > > > Else, you can read from my blog. > > > > gauravastro. blogspot. com > > > > Thank you, > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, vijay palaskar > > > > <vijay_palaskar2002 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hallo Everyone > > > > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > > > > Please forward to me > > > > > Thanks > > > > > with regards > > > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Thanks for the details. <<Those who wish to attain Siddi of Mantra or removal of snake bites, too have to have to pray and pay homage to The great Aastika, who was born of Rishi Jaratkara and Nagkanya Jaratkaru, the sister of Takshaka. >> I have heard the prayer as follows. Are you regferring to this? "Aastikasya munih maataa Vaasuki bhaginistathaa, Jaratkaaru munih patni Manasaa devi namohastute." Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kalsarp-Please Forward Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:41 PM Dear Sunil Babu, I am not a authoritative or much knowledgable person in Kalasarpa. ( People like me are just like General Physicians having knowledge of all but specialised in none), but shall attempt to answer your observations in short. // I understand that there are many types of Kalasarpa yoga and I guess the following two are main. One is when the planets are between the mouth of Rahu and the end of its tail of Ketu. The other is when the planets are between the upper part pf Ketu and the neck of Rahu. Will you like to tell us more about these types. // You are I presume talking about Anant Kalasarp Yoga and Takshak Kalasarpa Yoga respectively. In the former one in short the effects are Mental Tensions throughout Life, No peace, Unstability, afflictions related to Head and brain. ( This can be expanded but like to keep it short ). In the latter Marital incompatibility, More enemies, bad debts, Secret physical afflictions, Failure in Love, More of daughters , Obstacles in progress, Business Partners not reliable, Journeys unsuccessful etc. // Secondly what happens if the horoscopre is such that the most of the planets are exalted and /or in their own house or friend's house. For example what will happen in a hypothetical case if the Sun, Mercury and Mars are in Mesha, the Moon and Venus are in Vrishabha, Saturn in Mithuna, Jupiter in Karkata, Rahu in Virgo and Ketu in Meena. // If these planets are situated in the left side ( Brighter half ) of the chart, then Life after middle age would not be satisfactory, while if vice versa, then after middle age, tremendous success. // Thirdly is it true that a person with Kalasarpa dosha may be very successful yet may not have peaceful family life because the Moon may be affected the most?. // Yes this is possible very much. We need not look much, because around us too we will find many families in our circle where the men are successful professionally but family Life and relations are strained and zero. The different types of Kalasarpa Yoga are as under- 1) Ananta Kalasarpa Yoga 2) Kulika " 3) Vasuki 4) Shankhapal " 5) Padam " 6) Mahapadam " 7) Takshak " 8) Karkotaka " 9) Shankhachud " 10) Paatak " 11) Vishakta " 12) Sheshnaga " A non- belieiver may note the above names like Ananta, Vasuki, Takshak, Sheshanaga in common knowledge too are names of snakes, and those who visit South Indian temples many of them have a seperate altar devoted to the snakes where a person make do feri and fold his hands in respect. Those who make these temples are not foolish persons, but know the meaning of the Navgrahas and also the power of the snakes as represented by Rahu and Saturn. Raja Parikshit story all Hindus must be knowing what caused his death. An ordinary astrologer too knows what Rahu represents ( Hood of a snake )in astrology. If they disbelieve in the powers of Rahu, then its their prerogative. One cannot bind anyones hands and legs andforce them to believe in this. Those who wish to attain Siddi of Mantra or removal of snake bites, too have to have to pray and pay homage to The great Aastika, who was born of Rishi Jaratkara and Nagkanya Jaratkaru, the sister of Takshaka. There are also some combinations of shraapit Kundli taught to me by My Guru, and will write about them some day. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > I understand that there are many types of Kalasarpa yoga and I guess the following two are main. One is when the planets are between the mouth of Rahu and the end of its tail of Ketu. The other is when the planets are between the upper part pf Ketu and the neck of Rahu. Will you like to tell us more about these types. > > Secondly what happens if the horoscopre is such that the most of the planets are exalted and /or in their own house or friend's house. For example what will happen in a hypothetical case if the Sun, Mercury and Mars are in Mesha, the Moon and Venus are in Vrishabha, Saturn in Mithuna, Jupiter in Karkata, Rahu in Virgo and Ketu in Meena.> > Thirdly is it true that a person with Kalasarpa dosha may be very successful yet may not have peaceful family life because the Moon may be affected the most?. > > Regards,> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kalsarp-Please Forward> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, January 15, 2009, 7:53 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > I just noticed few members in another Group> discussing and arguing about Kalasarpa.> There are many modern day astrologers who do not> believe in this Yoga and neither its effects. They > condemn its existence, and do not hold any value for > the same. A few words in its support.> > > The validity of Kala Sarpa Yoga.> > The planets placed on the 2 sides of the Sun cause > Yogas like, Veli,vesi and Ubhayachari . From the two> sides of the Moon they cause Anfa,Sunfa,Durdhura > and Kemadruma . Saturn with Moon causes Visha yoga.> Rahu with Moon causes Grahan Yoga. Rahu with Jupiter > causes Chandal Yoga.> > When we accept the above Yogas, then why must we deny the> effects of Yoga causes by Rahu and Ketu or the bad> effects of planets swallowed by rahu and Ketu ?> > I am not sure but I have read that Varamihira has> admitted and established Sarpayoga in his Brihat > Jatak Nabha Sanjog. Kalyan Verma has done so in> Saravali, Shanti Ratnam has prescribed KalaSarpa Shanti. > > We all know by now that through the Rahu ketu Nodal axis ,> we have to pay for our past Karmas in this janam.> > Rahu represents sarpa or serpents, none will deny this.> > Rahu is also known as " Kal ".> > In " Mansagri", Chapter 4, Shloka 55, says Saturn,Sun and> Rahu in 7th house from Ascendant, causes "Sarpa Dansha "> as under.> > (Sarpahanta Yoga)> Lagnachh Saptamsthane Shanyarke Rahusansthite> Sarpen peeda Tasyokta Shayyayam Svapatoapi cha> > In any Pooja involving the planets, we have to perform the> pooja of Planets adhidevata and Pratyarthi devata.> Rahus adhidevata is "Kal", and pratyarthi devata is "Sarpa".> That is why Rahu Shanti is known as " KalaSarpa Shanthi". > > One should not criticize the Kalasarpa Yoga for sake of cheap > publicity gaining. We must not try to look good,wiser and smarter > by wantonly negating, condemning the faith which our> ancestors have held. At same time, prove that its wrong if> one does not believe in its existence.> > The importance of Rahu is very crucial because otherwise> The Great Rishi Munis would not have given it 18 Years period in> Vimsottari Dasha and 12 years in Ashtottari Dasha. > > The various type of Yogas forming Kalasarpa I am not going> into for they are well known, but someday I would like to write more about Rahu and the Kalasarpa Yoga in its blessing formation> in a Chart. The kalasarpa Yoga is only known as a evil Yoga, which > myth I wish to break.> > regards.> Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, vijay palaskar <vijay_palaskar2002@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hallo Everyone > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG> > Please forward to me > > Thanks> > with regards> > Vijay> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dear Sri Bhaskar Ji, Thank you so much for your explanation..i understood what you said Regards Chandu2Chill , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Chandu 2 chill, Technically there would be no Kala Sarpa Dosha. I will give you the reasoning why ? Among the Akruti Yogas, there is one Yoga known as Chhatra Yoga where this Yoga is formed when all seven planets occupy one Bhava each commencing from the seventh house ( eg,7,8,9,10,11 , 12 and Lagna) without a single Bhava being vacant. Now suppose the last planet does not fall in Lagna but falls in the 2nd house, would you call it a Akruti Yoga ? Or a partial Chatra Yoga ? There is no terminology such as this. Either this Yoga is there, or is not there. Same way among the Sankhya Yogas, there is one Yoga known as Gol Yoga, which manifests when all 7 Planets occupy only one Bhava in a Horoscope(This happenned last on 5th Feb 1962) . Now even if one planet is in another House, will you call it as Gol Yoga ? No. Thus theres nothing like Partial kala Sarpa Yoga. But yes, the Kundli may by shraapit which has to be checked through certain parameters. regards, Bhaskar. , " Chandu2chill " <nanna_id2006@> wrote: Dear Bhaskar Ji, Thanks for sharing your views/observations on much talked Kalsarpa- Yoga..! I have a query and would appreciate if you could kindly shed some light on this.. If any ONE of the 7 planets is outside the axis of Rahu/Ketu then is it termed as Partial KalaSarpa Yoga OR there's NO KalSarpa Yoga at all? Regards Chandu2Chill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dear Sunil Babu, What you have given is too a stuti of the same Group of family members, including Aastika. What I was talking of, was this - Yo jagatkaruna Jaato Jagatkaaro Mahayashaa:/ Aastika : sarpasatre va : Pannagaan Yoabhyarakshat/ tam smarantam Mahabhaaga na Mam Himsitumahartha // Translation - The glorious Aastika was born of Rishi Jaratkaru and Nagkanya Jaratkaru. He protected you serpents from falling into the snake sacrifice. O great Serpents. I think of him. Do not bite me. sarpapasarpa bhadram te gacha sarpa mahavisha / janamejayayajnante Aastikavachanam smara // Translation - O serpent, having terrible poison, go away. May there be auspiciousness unto you. Go away. Think over what Aastika said at the end of the snake sacrifice. Aastikasya vacha : Shrutva ya : sarpo na nivartate / shatadha bhidyate murdhini shimshavrikshafalam yatha // Translation - The head of the serpent which does not return on hearing the people mention the word Aastika will burst into a hundred pieces like the fruit of the Simsa tree. Anyone who reads and does Japa of the above shlokas, either in the morning or evening, will have no fear from snakes. King parikshit died being bitten by the serpent Takshaka. So his son Janemejaya performed the snake sacrifice to destroy all snakes in the world. Aastika was the son of Jaratkaru, the sister of Takshaka. He came and stopped the snake sacrifice in the middle . So the snakes are duty bound to respect his name . For fuller particulars please refer to Adiparva of the Mahabharata. The above has been translated by Swami Sivananda of Haridwar. regards, Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > Thanks for the details.> > <<Those who wish to attain Siddi of Mantra or removal of snake bites, too have to have to pray and pay homage to The great Aastika, who was born of Rishi Jaratkara and Nagkanya Jaratkaru, the sister of Takshaka. >>> > I have heard the prayer as follows. Are you regferring to this?> > "Aastikasya munih maataa Vaasuki bhaginistathaa, > Jaratkaaru munih patni Manasaa devi namohastute."> > Regards,> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish Re: Kalsarp-Please Forward> > Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:41 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Babu,> > I am not a authoritative or much knowledgable person in Kalasarpa. ( People like me are just like General Physicians having knowledge of all but specialised in none), but shall attempt to answer your observations in short. > > // I understand that there are many types of Kalasarpa yoga and I guess the following two are main. One is when the planets are between the mouth of Rahu and the end of its tail of Ketu. The other is when the planets are between the upper part pf Ketu and the neck of Rahu. Will you like to tell us more about these types. //> > You are I presume talking about Anant Kalasarp Yoga and Takshak Kalasarpa Yoga respectively. In the former one in short the effects are Mental Tensions throughout Life, No peace, Unstability, afflictions related to Head and brain. ( This can be expanded but like to keep it short ). In the latter Marital incompatibility, More enemies, bad debts, Secret physical afflictions, Failure in Love, More of daughters , Obstacles in progress, Business Partners not reliable, Journeys unsuccessful etc.> > > // Secondly what happens if the horoscopre is such that the most of the planets are exalted and /or in their own house or friend's house. For example what will happen in a hypothetical case if the Sun, Mercury and Mars are in Mesha, the Moon and Venus are in Vrishabha, Saturn in Mithuna, Jupiter in Karkata, Rahu in Virgo and Ketu in Meena. //> > If these planets are situated in the left side ( Brighter half ) of the chart, then Life after middle age would not be satisfactory, while if vice versa, then after middle age, tremendous success.> > // Thirdly is it true that a person with Kalasarpa dosha may be very successful yet may not have peaceful family life because the Moon may be affected the most?. //> > Yes this is possible very much. We need not look much, because around us too we will find many families in our circle where the men are successful professionally but family Life and relations are strained and zero.> > The different types of Kalasarpa Yoga are as under-> 1) Ananta Kalasarpa Yoga> 2) Kulika "> 3) Vasuki> 4) Shankhapal "> 5) Padam "> 6) Mahapadam "> 7) Takshak "> 8) Karkotaka "> 9) Shankhachud "> 10) Paatak "> 11) Vishakta "> 12) Sheshnaga "> > A non- belieiver may note the above names like Ananta, Vasuki, Takshak, Sheshanaga in common knowledge too are names of snakes, and those who visit South Indian temples many of them have a seperate altar devoted to the snakes where a person make do feri and fold his hands in respect. Those who make these temples are not foolish persons, but know the meaning of the Navgrahas and also the power of the snakes as represented by Rahu and Saturn.> > Raja Parikshit story all Hindus must be knowing what caused his death.> > An ordinary astrologer too knows what Rahu represents ( Hood of a snake )in astrology. If they disbelieve in the powers of Rahu, then its their prerogative. One cannot bind anyones hands and legs andforce them to believe in this.> > Those who wish to attain Siddi of Mantra or removal of snake bites, too have to have to pray and pay homage to The great Aastika, who was born of Rishi Jaratkara and Nagkanya Jaratkaru, the sister of Takshaka. > > There are also some combinations of shraapit Kundli taught to me by My Guru, and will write about them some day.> > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > > I understand that there are many types of Kalasarpa yoga and I guess the following two are main. One is when the planets are between the mouth of Rahu and the end of its tail of Ketu. The other is when the planets are between the upper part pf Ketu and the neck of Rahu. Will you like to tell us more about these types. > > > > Secondly what happens if the horoscopre is such that the most of the planets are exalted and /or in their own house or friend's house. For example what will happen in a hypothetical case if the Sun, Mercury and Mars are in Mesha, the Moon and Venus are in Vrishabha, Saturn in Mithuna, Jupiter in Karkata, Rahu in Virgo and Ketu in Meena.> > > > Thirdly is it true that a person with Kalasarpa dosha may be very successful yet may not have peaceful family life because the Moon may be affected the most?. > > > > Regards,> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Kalsarp-Please Forward> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, January 15, 2009, 7:53 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > I just noticed few members in another Group> > discussing and arguing about Kalasarpa.> > There are many modern day astrologers who do not> > believe in this Yoga and neither its effects. They > > condemn its existence, and do not hold any value for > > the same. A few words in its support.> > > > > > The validity of Kala Sarpa Yoga.> > > > The planets placed on the 2 sides of the Sun cause > > Yogas like, Veli,vesi and Ubhayachari . From the two> > sides of the Moon they cause Anfa,Sunfa,Durdhura > > and Kemadruma . Saturn with Moon causes Visha yoga.> > Rahu with Moon causes Grahan Yoga. Rahu with Jupiter > > causes Chandal Yoga.> > > > When we accept the above Yogas, then why must we deny the> > effects of Yoga causes by Rahu and Ketu or the bad> > effects of planets swallowed by rahu and Ketu ?> > > > I am not sure but I have read that Varamihira has> > admitted and established Sarpayoga in his Brihat > > Jatak Nabha Sanjog. Kalyan Verma has done so in> > Saravali, Shanti Ratnam has prescribed KalaSarpa Shanti. > > > > We all know by now that through the Rahu ketu Nodal axis ,> > we have to pay for our past Karmas in this janam.> > > > Rahu represents sarpa or serpents, none will deny this.> > > > Rahu is also known as " Kal ".> > > > In " Mansagri", Chapter 4, Shloka 55, says Saturn,Sun and> > Rahu in 7th house from Ascendant, causes "Sarpa Dansha "> > as under.> > > > (Sarpahanta Yoga)> > Lagnachh Saptamsthane Shanyarke Rahusansthite> > Sarpen peeda Tasyokta Shayyayam Svapatoapi cha> > > > In any Pooja involving the planets, we have to perform the> > pooja of Planets adhidevata and Pratyarthi devata.> > Rahus adhidevata is "Kal", and pratyarthi devata is "Sarpa".> > That is why Rahu Shanti is known as " KalaSarpa Shanthi". > > > > One should not criticize the Kalasarpa Yoga for sake of cheap > > publicity gaining. We must not try to look good,wiser and smarter > > by wantonly negating, condemning the faith which our> > ancestors have held. At same time, prove that its wrong if> > one does not believe in its existence.> > > > The importance of Rahu is very crucial because otherwise> > The Great Rishi Munis would not have given it 18 Years period in> > Vimsottari Dasha and 12 years in Ashtottari Dasha. > > > > The various type of Yogas forming Kalasarpa I am not going> > into for they are well known, but someday I would like to write more about Rahu and the Kalasarpa Yoga in its blessing formation> > in a Chart. The kalasarpa Yoga is only known as a evil Yoga, which > > myth I wish to break.> > > > regards.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, vijay palaskar <vijay_palaskar2002@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Hallo Everyone > > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG> > > Please forward to me > > > Thanks> > > with regards> > > Vijay> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dear Friends, Knowingly or otherwise,some how all of us seem to bring extetended discussion on KSY.It is 'coz,one with and the other with tails are involved in a hypothetical frame of yoga.Most of the people are now certain that this Rahu-Ketu axis is not esy to overcome.In the process Iam afraid the person at the receiving end seems to be loosing his track.why not we all agree to find method by which the natives who have problems 'coz of KSY or kAY can understand and get satisfied with reference dasas going on have no problems.Caution them in case only malefic planets particularly sun or mars cast aspect on rahu or Ketu. vrkishnan --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Kalsarp-Please Forward Friday, January 16, 2009, 7:42 PM Panditji, Is it true that when Brihaspati Maharaj assumes the neechavastha it becomes an uphill battle regarding the very theme and point you are trying to make? Perhaps we should wait for Guru Maharaj to move out of 'acceleration' and into Meena! Or who knows one may have to wait till it arrives in Karkata! RR , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > dear friend > > my observation of nodes not included in the yogas is from ancient > classics like the horas, shastras and samhitas of the sages. > > uttarakalamrita is a medieval text by kalidasa. viparita rajayoga is > also observed in three different names by shri b.v.raman too. > > anyway since i am for and supportive of the belief in these yogas by > the natives, if you find them corroborative, it is even better. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > , Rafał Gendarz > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > Dear Pandit , > > > > If my memory serves me right then Vipareet Rajayoga is mentioned in > > Uttara Kalamrta. > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > ------------ -- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa. com > > rafal@/ > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > ksy is the most oft repeated discussion thread in many groups and > > > everytime we say the same thing. > > > > > > any astrologer can have his own opinion and some take strong > siding > > > of one view which is fine upto them but in this free world, > natives > > > have the liberty to form their own opinion instead of blindly > > > following what is said by mr x or mr y or what is written or > > > unwritten in scriptures after studying all and applying logic and > > > intellect. > > > > > > my request to natives is that they shall note that many yogas like > > > the ones listed below do not find their mention in the scriptures: > > > > > > kala sarpa yoga > > > kala amrita yoga > > > grahana yoga > > > neecha bhanga raja yoga > > > uchha bhanga daridraya yoga > > > vipareeta raja yoga > > > > > > in ancient classics, no yoga was mentioned with the nodes as all > > > yogas were given only with the seven planets, so much so that the > > > conjunction results of only seven planets were given and rahu and > > > ketu are excluded which is a later day addition. > > > > > > once the little master was battling with his bat for more than 80 > > > matches and he could not get a century. it is the typical trait > of a > > > kalasarpayoga and he visited several holy pilgrimage places and > did > > > remedies and then onwards he conquered the world blasting with his > > > bat. > > > > > > hence my request to gauravji is that for those who believe in a > yoga > > > of a mythical planet, it is only faith that makes the native do > > > remedies and get benefited since is it mythological in nature. > > > > > > have suggested simple, free, zero expense and inexpensive remedies > > > for natives of kalasarpa yoga in earlier threads on the subject > and > > > natives do these remedies who believe in invisible dark planets as > > > much as they believe in the visible luminaries. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, " " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Vijay, > > > > There is nothing Kalasarpa yoga. It only helps quacks, as Shree > KN > > > Rao > > > > will say. Even books like Jatak Tatwa, Jataka Parijata never > > > mentions > > > > about this yoga, which is considered to be inauspicious, takes > > > another > > > > name when it is beneficial for the native i.e. " kala amrita > yoga " . > > > > These nodes, when they dont have any power, who are dependent > on its > > > > dispositors, aspect it receives, or planets it is conjuncted, > how > > > can > > > > those two nodes control a human being life cycle wonders me!!! > > > > Again many people advise Upayas, which are again constly. You > can > > > > refer to Shree KN Rao's book " Kalsarpa Yoga:Why Such > Fright?? " Even > > > > Mahatma Gandhi had a partial KSY(which was being developed as > the > > > > greedy brahmins have to earn something through Upayas), so did > it > > > stop > > > > him from being a " Mahatma " ?? > > > > Else, you can read from my blog. > > > > gauravastro. blogspot. com > > > > Thank you, > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, vijay palaskar > > > > <vijay_palaskar2002 @> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hallo Everyone > > > > > If anyone have special information about KALSARP YOG > > > > > Please forward to me > > > > > Thanks > > > > > with regards > > > > > Vijay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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