Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Satish I hope u can write to bhaskar persoanlly and ask him if we can discuss his chart personally though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting him which is true bt he will see it only one way so pl get his explict permission on this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i dont approve msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him benefit of dount here also if u dont send to him I wil copy this mail to him sometime tom, I hope udo this NOW prashant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dear Prashant, You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) ======== - Prashant Kumar G B Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 BM Satish I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can discuss his chart personally though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting him which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission on this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't approve msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, I hope u do this NOW prashant .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from Sateesh jee : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. " Good discussion is always welcome , although too much of discussion hinders me from developing the English version of Kundalee software which has already been launched and people are complaining of more Hindi pages in it than English pages( I've also to answer hundreds of mails coming daily). In another forum, my experience was that discussion was merely an excuse for unprovoked attacks and abuses. This forum seems to be in neutral hands. -VJ =============== ================= , " Sateesh Batas " <makara wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) > > > ======== > > > > - > Prashant Kumar G B > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 BM > > > Satish > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can discuss his chart personally > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting him which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission on this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't approve msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, I hope u do this NOW > > prashant > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear Vinay ji, I have been observing your plight for several days and also the attacks on you and on your pursuit. I think you are serious about what you believe in! That is a good start... You may benefit from starting your own forum or google forum or msn forum. It would be small but dedicated! You really do not need all this fighting and *noise* in your life right now or did ever! Let your conviction and intensity be your beacon. Once you open your forum, please do invite me. I shall join but be mostly silent. If you need help in starting your forum, please let me know -- although with your programming and internet-saavy you may not need my help and perhaps be able to teach me a trick or two! Best wishes, Rohiniranjan , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from Sateesh jee > : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does not, > then we can assume the opposite. " > > Good discussion is always welcome , although too much of discussion > hinders me from developing the English version of Kundalee software > which has already been launched and people are complaining of more Hindi > pages in it than English pages( I've also to answer hundreds of mails > coming daily). In another forum, my experience was that discussion was > merely an excuse for unprovoked attacks and abuses. This forum seems to > be in neutral hands. > > -VJ > =============== ================= > , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. > > > > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. > > > > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. > > > > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone > impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. > > > > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > - > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM > > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 > BM > > > > > > Satish > > > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can discuss > his chart personally > > > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting him > which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] > > > > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission on > this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation > > > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't approve > msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him > benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid > topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] > > > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, I > hope u do this NOW > > > > prashant > > > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear RRji i think he has settled down for lesser heated forums now so let him get some milage before venturing on his own, this process is surely a education or trial by fire, one needs to pass this aspect in life and come out better. surely he has mellowed down now but in case u have a feedback on his articles pl coment, i would appreciate them more than him, if need be privately prashant ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:21:21 PM Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 BM Dear Vinay ji, I have been observing your plight for several days and also the attacks on you and on your pursuit. I think you are serious about what you believe in! That is a good start... You may benefit from starting your own forum or google forum or msn forum. It would be small but dedicated! You really do not need all this fighting and *noise* in your life right now or did ever! Let your conviction and intensity be your beacon. Once you open your forum, please do invite me. I shall join but be mostly silent. If you need help in starting your forum, please let me know -- although with your programming and internet-saavy you may not need my help and perhaps be able to teach me a trick or two! Best wishes, Rohiniranjan , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from Sateesh jee > : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does not, > then we can assume the opposite. " > > Good discussion is always welcome , although too much of discussion > hinders me from developing the English version of Kundalee software > which has already been launched and people are complaining of more Hindi > pages in it than English pages( I've also to answer hundreds of mails > coming daily). In another forum, my experience was that discussion was > merely an excuse for unprovoked attacks and abuses. This forum seems to > be in neutral hands. > > -VJ > ============ === ============ ===== > , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. > > > > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. > > > > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. > > > > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone > impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. > > > > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > - > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM > > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 > BM > > > > > > Satish > > > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can discuss > his chart personally > > > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting him > which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] > > > > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission on > this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation > > > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't approve > msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him > benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid > topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] > > > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, I > hope u do this NOW > > > > prashant > > > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 RR jee, Your suggestions are always sound. But you do not know my real plight. I never feel disturbed with abuses or neglect of my work. I knew it would happen, and I know it will even increase with time. My real worry is wastage of my time over computer and internet. I want to deliver my work given to me by Gurujee, and then pay heed towards my own salvation. 29 persons joined my website as members, but I did not start any forum there because it is not my plan. But I cannot discard your well meant suggestion. Please bear with me for some time. I am preparing the materials in English, which is mostly in Hindi or in the form of rough notes. AIA helped me a great deal in preparing some material, and taught me how to deal with such problems. Without an obstacle, one cannot learn how to remove it. -VJ ================ ================= , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Vinay ji, > > I have been observing your plight for several days and also the > attacks on you and on your pursuit. > > I think you are serious about what you believe in! That is a good > start... > > You may benefit from starting your own forum or google forum or > msn forum. It would be small but dedicated! > > You really do not need all this fighting and *noise* in your life > right now or did ever! > > Let your conviction and intensity be your beacon. > > Once you open your forum, please do invite me. I shall join but be > mostly silent. > > If you need help in starting your forum, please let me know -- > although with your programming and internet-saavy you may not need my > help and perhaps be able to teach me a trick or two! > > Best wishes, > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > , " vinayjhaa16 " > <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from > Sateesh jee > > : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does > not, > > then we can assume the opposite. " > > > > Good discussion is always welcome , although too much of discussion > > hinders me from developing the English version of Kundalee software > > which has already been launched and people are complaining of more > Hindi > > pages in it than English pages( I've also to answer hundreds of > mails > > coming daily). In another forum, my experience was that discussion > was > > merely an excuse for unprovoked attacks and abuses. This forum > seems to > > be in neutral hands. > > > > -VJ > > =============== ================= > > , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. > > > > > > > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. > > > > > > > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. > > > > > > > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone > > impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. > > > > > > > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM > > > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets > 16/1 > > BM > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can > discuss > > his chart personally > > > > > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting > him > > which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] > > > > > > > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission > on > > this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation > > > > > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't > approve > > msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him > > benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid > > topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] > > > > > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, > I > > hope u do this NOW > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Vinay, My apologies for presuming to understand your plight ... Good luck! RR , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > RR jee, > > Your suggestions are always sound. But you do not know my real plight. > I never feel disturbed with abuses or neglect of my work. I knew it > would happen, and I know it will even increase with time. My real > worry is wastage of my time over computer and internet. I want to > deliver my work given to me by Gurujee, and then pay heed towards my > own salvation. > > 29 persons joined my website as members, but I did not start any forum > there because it is not my plan. But I cannot discard your well meant > suggestion. Please bear with me for some time. > > I am preparing the materials in English, which is mostly in Hindi or > in the form of rough notes. AIA helped me a great deal in preparing > some material, and taught me how to deal with such problems. Without > an obstacle, one cannot learn how to remove it. > > -VJ > ================ ================= > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay ji, > > > > I have been observing your plight for several days and also the > > attacks on you and on your pursuit. > > > > I think you are serious about what you believe in! That is a good > > start... > > > > You may benefit from starting your own forum or google forum or > > msn forum. It would be small but dedicated! > > > > You really do not need all this fighting and *noise* in your life > > right now or did ever! > > > > Let your conviction and intensity be your beacon. > > > > Once you open your forum, please do invite me. I shall join but be > > mostly silent. > > > > If you need help in starting your forum, please let me know -- > > although with your programming and internet-saavy you may not need my > > help and perhaps be able to teach me a trick or two! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " vinayjhaa16 " > > <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from > > Sateesh jee > > > : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does > > not, > > > then we can assume the opposite. " > > > > > > Good discussion is always welcome , although too much of discussion > > > hinders me from developing the English version of Kundalee software > > > which has already been launched and people are complaining of more > > Hindi > > > pages in it than English pages( I've also to answer hundreds of > > mails > > > coming daily). In another forum, my experience was that discussion > > was > > > merely an excuse for unprovoked attacks and abuses. This forum > > seems to > > > be in neutral hands. > > > > > > -VJ > > > =============== ================= > > > , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone > > > impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) > > > > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM > > > > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets > > 16/1 > > > BM > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can > > discuss > > > his chart personally > > > > > > > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting > > him > > > which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] > > > > > > > > > > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission > > on > > > this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation > > > > > > > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't > > approve > > > msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him > > > benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid > > > topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] > > > > > > > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, > > I > > > hope u do this NOW > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 My mistake - I meant to write " rather than me disturbing him OFF-list " - i.e. if he is reading the messages on here, then he can give his permission to the Moderator for his chart to be discussed - and if we don't hear from him, then assume he does not want his chart discussed. ======== - vinayjhaa16 Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:28 AM Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 BM I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from Sateesh jee : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 RR jee, No Sir, you were not in the wrong. It was a real plight, but I do not feel it as such. I am sorry for those whom I wanted to help, but could not, due to factors beyond my control, which are unfortunately still the guiding principles of Indian society at large. -VJ ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:55:22 PM Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets 16/1 BM Vinay, My apologies for presuming to understand your plight ... Good luck! RR , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > RR jee, > > Your suggestions are always sound. But you do not know my real plight. > I never feel disturbed with abuses or neglect of my work. I knew it > would happen, and I know it will even increase with time. My real > worry is wastage of my time over computer and internet. I want to > deliver my work given to me by Gurujee, and then pay heed towards my > own salvation. > > 29 persons joined my website as members, but I did not start any forum > there because it is not my plan. But I cannot discard your well meant > suggestion. Please bear with me for some time. > > I am preparing the materials in English, which is mostly in Hindi or > in the form of rough notes. AIA helped me a great deal in preparing > some material, and taught me how to deal with such problems. Without > an obstacle, one cannot learn how to remove it. > > -VJ > ============ ==== ============ ===== > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Vinay ji, > > > > I have been observing your plight for several days and also the > > attacks on you and on your pursuit. > > > > I think you are serious about what you believe in! That is a good > > start... > > > > You may benefit from starting your own forum or google forum or > > msn forum. It would be small but dedicated! > > > > You really do not need all this fighting and *noise* in your life > > right now or did ever! > > > > Let your conviction and intensity be your beacon. > > > > Once you open your forum, please do invite me. I shall join but be > > mostly silent. > > > > If you need help in starting your forum, please let me know -- > > although with your programming and internet-saavy you may not need my > > help and perhaps be able to teach me a trick or two! > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " vinayjhaa16 " > > <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > I could not fathom out the meaning of following message from > > Sateesh jee > > > : " I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. If he does > > not, > > > then we can assume the opposite. " > > > > > > Good discussion is always welcome , although too much of discussion > > > hinders me from developing the English version of Kundalee software > > > which has already been launched and people are complaining of more > > Hindi > > > pages in it than English pages( I've also to answer hundreds of > > mails > > > coming daily). In another forum, my experience was that discussion > > was > > > merely an excuse for unprovoked attacks and abuses. This forum > > seems to > > > be in neutral hands. > > > > > > -VJ > > > ============ === ============ ===== > > > , " Sateesh Batas " <makara@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here. > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me > > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission on the > > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see someone > > > impartial, although I know it's a difficult task. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!) > > > > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM > > > > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient Secrets > > 16/1 > > > BM > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we can > > discuss > > > his chart personally > > > > > > > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately hurting > > him > > > which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE] > > > > > > > > > > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit permission > > on > > > this as he is not active here is scared of being under moderation > > > > > > > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't > > approve > > > msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will give him > > > benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will avoid > > > topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it] > > > > > > > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime tom, > > I > > > hope u do this NOW > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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