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Dear RRji

 

I've been forgetting to change the thread as it is a misleading one so fely this

was a apt one

 

I am trying my best to be seen in the path of FAIRNESS and TRANSPARENCY rest is

avoidable mess.

 

I appreciate Tanvir for taking things in the right spirit after a initial state

of being treated unfairly in a diff forum and all of us democratically did

appeal to keep Jyotish centeric and unite, forget te bitterness as both the

forum owers have done a lot of good service to discussion forums in their own

way that oo hailing from diff faiths. is a big plus in their favor THEWY CAN

TAKE IT FORWARD BY THE DAY THAN GET BOGGED DOWN AND THEY R DOING IT WELL.

 

 

 

prashant

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:38:13 PM

Re: NEVER throw BPHS at anyone to hurt them!

 

 

Kumar ji,

 

I trust you that you will not ever allow a member to be 'battered' on

an astrological basis ...

 

particularly after experiencing as we all did that even the OWNER is

not immune and can get battered similarly on his own forum!

 

Democracy has a price. It is called FAIRNESS and TRANSPARENCY and

Tanvir DEMONSTRATED that recently for himself and this forum!

 

BRAVO Tanvir!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear RRji

>

> the point is have i allowed it u/n

>

> did I not ask him to get Bhaskars permission y/n

>

> if it comes from him it will appear here and they have to deal with

it between them

>

> till such time it is a non existant mail for public and as most

forums do say when u post ur data in the forum it is understood it is

no longer private

>

> STILL I AM TAKING THE EXTRA STEP just not to indirectly also offend

anyone, today it can be him later it can be anyone even me.

>

> but I am sure that my horoscope was discussed very sarcastically, -

vely by him a few times.,

> even recently in AIAI without any history of disturbance with him

there he did TALK IN 5TH HOUSE ISSUES ON ME

>

> with no supporting astrological data, chart details WITH FULL

MALICE NOT EVEN PROOF OF what he said swindling JR members...

>

> but trust me I will never do it, or allow them to do it let them be

visible in their true colors outside, I am least bothered initially i

used to react not much now.

>

> I WONT allow anyone to use this forum for their personal agenda

>

> in this case it was a discussion only if it appears u ma y see it

as much ado abt nothing...!

>

> But i sincerely hope this message is posted in other forums and

save me the embarrassment of proof reading every bit.

>

>

> Prashant

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:42:56 AM

> Re: NEVER throw BPHS at anyone to hurt them!

>

>

> Kumarji,

>

> Please excuse me for being direct but you are not *getting* it!

>

> Most of these amateurish snipes at horoscopes of

perceived 'enemies'

> should perhaps be called " immaturish " as we have witnessed very

> recently in the past week and many times before!

>

> A horoscope belongs to the nativity and is sacred in that sense and

> must never be misused! All through my astrological career I have

> sought permission of the nativities to use their astrodata and have

> always promised that their personal id etc will never be revealed.

>

> It really bothers me when so called professional and established

> astrologers begin to toss around astro-interpretatio ns and

suchlike

> casually and carelessly and jyotish fora and their moderators allow

> that...

>

> RR

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RR ji

> >

> > pl be assured as Bhaskar I did not pass it for the same reason

and

> only if approves the idea will do it else it is a clear NO to this

> person, I don't anyone to claim it is a fake ID of x, y z, he cud

be

> a student or a advanced astrologer I have NO IDEA and it is risky

to

> pass it without Bhaskars say in it

> >

> > and this acutally a harmless post as of now

> >

> > where he discussed some transits on his chart with not much said

in

> detail, nothing personal was said either

> >

> > but some extra care not to get dragged into a needless

controversy

> I am taking

> >

> > it is no fair to put anyones chart esp by name without their

> persmission, more so when there is a element of mistrust

> >

> > prashant

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >

> > Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:11:51 AM

> > Re: NEVER throw BPHS at anyone to hurt them!

> >

> >

> > Dear Kumar ji,

> >

> > NEITHER Bhaskar is perfect, NOR is anyone else here, you and I

> > included!

> >

> > I find it distasteful that he is being put in a position where he

> has

> > to agree by default to *agree* out of politeness or whatever to

> have

> > his chart on display on this forum or whereever else and picked

at

> by

> > one and all as they choose and pick their tools!

> >

> > If that ever occurs here on , please note that I

> have

> > many charts too of internet astrologers and I will take this

> > personally and post those with astrological comments at various

> > places and at various times!

> >

> > I am not a fan of Bhaskar or have any special affinity with him --

 

> > but I do believe in astrological dignity! Something that even

> casual

> > astrologers MUST POSSESS and DEMONSTRATE!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RRji,

> > >

> > > the supposed mail on a reading abt Bhasjar is still in the quee-

> > unapproved/under moderation

> > >

> > > I don't want to take a risk of allowing it in the group when he

> is

> > not active here so I asked him to seek his permission and then I

> will

> > allow it that is what he has also come on now to say

> > >

> > > so peace at initial stage is ensured If Bhaskar has no problem

> with

> > it can be allowed else will stand in the not posted lot till it

> > lapses on its own the default 14 day period

> > >

> > >

> > > this is a a attempt to protect group peace, space. but can be

> > misunderstood as a ploy to hurt him even if that is not the idea

of

> > the poster

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:46:47 AM

> > > NEVER throw BPHS at anyone to hurt them!

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Please allow me to stick my nose in where it does not belong,

> > perhaps.

> > >

> > > This thread kind of starts in the middle. I cannot find

> the 'seed'

> > > message from Sateesh to Kumar ji wherein the former presumably

> > > offered to discuss Mr. Bhaskar's horoscope. Prashant Kumar ji's

> > > response was balanced but it was posted publicly!

> > >

> > > Maybe Sateesh did write publicly here and I just could not find

> it

> > > <aging eyes!>.

> > >

> > > I think it is unwise to discuss someone's chart when a conflict

> is

> > > going on.

> > >

> > > I think it is unwise to use someone's chart to put them down or

> to

> > > make one's point.

> > >

> > > Even if the intentions are pure (!) when emotions are flared

and

> > > people are rightly or wrongly feeling cornered or victimized or

> > > angry, it is not the best strategy to act wise and use their

> charts

> > > to explain what someone perceives as the reason for their

> reaction

> > or

> > > behaviour! It just would not do what good it is intended to at

> such

> > a

> > > moment ...!

> > >

> > > And, if the intention is to hurt or belittle someone (general

> > > statement and not specifically accusing Sateesh of trying to do

> > that,

> > > I say just to clear any confusions or misinterpretations! ),

then

> > that

> > > would be a sin! Jyotish and 'hurting' must never be combined,

not

> > > even if you are reading the chart of someone who you are

> currently

> > > feeling as your opponent and 'enemy'!

> > >

> > > I think Hitler that (used astrologers to strategize his

attacks)

> > and

> > > look where he ended up!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Sateesh Batas "

> > <makara@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You are correct, there is no question about hurting him here.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I assume he is reading this, and so therefore rather than me

> > > disturbing him on-list, we can see if he posts his permission

on

> > the

> > > group - if he does, then I guess you can allow my post.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If he does not, then we can assume the opposite.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks - and great moderating - good to see

someone

> > > impartial, although I know it's a difficult task.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Best - Sateesh (not Satish!)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ========

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Prashant Kumar G B

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:19 PM

> > > > Re: Ayanamsha vs Precession : Some Ancient

> Secrets

> > > 16/1 BM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > > >

> > > > I hope u can write to bhaskar personally and ask him if we

can

> > > discuss his chart personally

> > > >

> > > > though ur post is impartial he may feel I am deliberately

> hurting

> > > him which is NOT true! [DELIBERATE]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > but he will see it only one way so pl get his explicit

> permission

> > > on this as he is not active here is scared of being under

> moderation

> > > >

> > > > but at times he says he is impulsive and is ok when i don't

> > approve

> > > msgs on fon but in grp mails it is exact opposite so I will

give

> > him

> > > benefit of doubt here also [as one who is not active so will

> avoid

> > > topics, questions on him-till he feels ok on it]

> > > >

> > > > if u don't send to him I will copy this mail to him sometime

> tom,

> > I

> > > hope u do this NOW

> > > >

> > > > prashant

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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