Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear Jyotishas, Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. What is your opinion on that? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most tragic, no matter what! Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on death which is inevitable! It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or Forever? RR , Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Jyotishas, > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > What is your opinion on that? > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Friends, Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, even in India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? Consider it to be a best opportunity...you got 3 precious years before final destruction. The work you do now, you can reap the results in the *next*creation. Stop worrying now.. Give your best shot!! Thank you, . , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > tragic, no matter what! > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on > death which is inevitable! > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or > Forever? > > RR > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > forthcoming > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > (Mai). > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some > danger > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) > make > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > -------------- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa.com > > rafal@/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 dear friends acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for astrologers or ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those who believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue merits. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Friends, > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, even in > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > Consider it to be a best opportunity...you got 3 precious years before > final destruction. > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the *next*creation. > Stop worrying now.. > Give your best shot!! > Thank you, > . > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on > > death which is inevitable! > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or > > Forever? > > > > RR > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > forthcoming > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > > (Mai). > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some > > danger > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) > > make > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > -------------- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa.com > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Gaurav, I wish you had used the verb " occur " where you used instead, 'happen'! But maybe you were just responding to the Greater REALITY where nothing is negative or positive and occur/happen are just convenient human classifications which are not good or bad but just indicate that LIFE GOES ON! RR , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Friends, > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, even in > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > Consider it to be a best opportunity...you got 3 precious years before > final destruction. > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the *next*creation. > Stop worrying now.. > Give your best shot!! > Thank you, > . > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on > > death which is inevitable! > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or > > Forever? > > > > RR > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > forthcoming > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > > (Mai). > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some > > danger > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) > > make > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > -------------- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa.com > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Arjun-ji, Actually They are! At least comprehensible! It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, scary but depends on who you are riding with on these! I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and children in this lifetime and lifeplan. With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up and down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on placed just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get anxious. With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! It *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated by the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity for learning! Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for astrologers or > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those who > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > merits. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Friends, > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, even > in > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > Consider it to be a best opportunity...you got 3 precious years > before > > final destruction. > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the *next*creation. > > Stop worrying now.. > > Give your best shot!! > > Thank you, > > . > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus > on > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now > or > > > Forever? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > societies, > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > forthcoming > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > some > > > danger > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > involved) > > > make > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar > bad > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > -------------- > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > http://rohinaa.com > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Members, In all most faiths,from time to time some such studies do take place.In the process,the faith becomes stronger as people believe the religion and the preachers. We have come across earlier wrtie ups and have seen several catsrophies taking place involving human loss and devastation.Recent incidence( example Tsunami) that occured in Indonesia.Earthquakes that recently occured taking life of hundreds and thousands of lives. These major events do lead us to believe religion and faiths involved. Infact we find very analytical and scientifi explanations in our Mundane Studies in Astrology for these calamities.The basis and predictions are not unbelievable. " Grahakutami " know in common parlance Graha Yuddha are cyclic/rare events making us to believe History repeats. Over the last decade for one or other reasons faith and religion taking strong roots in every corner of the globe.It is not without reason.Even the multidimensional growth of technology leading to enhancement of insecurity paves way for stronger faith in religion and worship. Jyotish now ambitious to explore basis for several myths is trying to reason out through planets.It does convey such write ups and basis for such forecasts can not be said as blind.only time that changes rapidly can only attest for the realities.we are no doumbt very temporary and only preparing ourselves to call it a day and bid good bye,we may not like but certain things are inevitable.Imbalances in the universe are too natural to be be accpeted.So what Mayan Calenders evets as 2012 is some what a scietific apprehension put in the form of faith and beleif.We should welcome ISCON's efforts to do pariharas to save the world.Such efforts as long as have no negative impacy one should not condemn vrkishnan --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:32 PM For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most tragic, no matter what! Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on death which is inevitable! It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or Forever? RR , Rafa³ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear Jyotishas, > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > What is your opinion on that? > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Krishnan Dada, Please allow me to be morbid! I have always believed that the power and vitality and validity of a GURU or MESSIAH is in how long His/Her teachings last after earthly departure! SADLY, ONLY when *GURUS* die is their true worth and spiritual longevity revealed! Don't believe me? Please look around and even in the last few decades or a few centuries! Rohiniranjan , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Members, > In all most faiths,from time to time some such studies do take place.In the process,the faith becomes stronger as people believe the religion and the preachers. > We have come across earlier wrtie ups and have seen several catsrophies taking place involving human loss and devastation.Recent incidence( example Tsunami) that occured in Indonesia.Earthquakes that recently occured taking life of hundreds and thousands of lives. > These major events do lead us to believe religion and faiths involved. > Infact we find very analytical and scientifi explanations in our Mundane Studies in Astrology for these calamities.The basis and predictions are not unbelievable. " Grahakutami " know in common parlance Graha Yuddha are cyclic/rare events making us to believe History repeats. > Over the last decade for one or other reasons faith and religion taking strong roots in every corner of the globe.It is not without reason.Even the multidimensional growth of technology leading to enhancement of insecurity paves way for stronger faith in religion and worship. > Jyotish now ambitious to explore basis for several myths is trying to reason out through planets.It does convey such write ups and basis for such forecasts can not be said as blind.only time that changes rapidly can only attest for the realities.we are no doumbt very temporary and only preparing ourselves to call it a day and bid good bye,we may not like but certain things are inevitable.Imbalances in the universe are too natural to be be accpeted.So what Mayan Calenders evets as 2012 is some what a scietific apprehension put in the form of faith and beleif.We should welcome ISCON's efforts to do pariharas to save the world.Such efforts as long as have no negative impacy one should not condemn > vrkishnan > > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:32 PM For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > tragic, no matter what! > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on > death which is inevitable! > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or > Forever? > > RR > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > forthcoming > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > (Mai). > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some > danger > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) > make > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > ------------ -- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa. com > > rafal@/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Shri Rohini dada, This is truth but hesitant to accept: " SADLY, ONLY when *GURUS* die is their true worth and spiritual longevity revealed! " Importance is felt only when one is not in reach.No exception even in the case of GURU as he is no way different from normal man(follower) when it comes to the matter of death. To be at peace is death.otherwise a state of samdhi which only GURU can think of and " plan for " The followers have sevral other things to divesify to justify their association and form part of society.A place of attraction is society vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion Friday, January 23, 2009, 1:09 AM Krishnan Dada, Please allow me to be morbid! I have always believed that the power and vitality and validity of a GURU or MESSIAH is in how long His/Her teachings last after earthly departure! SADLY, ONLY when *GURUS* die is their true worth and spiritual longevity revealed! Don't believe me? Please look around and even in the last few decades or a few centuries! Rohiniranjan , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Members, > In all most faiths,from time to time some such studies do take place.In the process,the faith becomes stronger as people believe the religion and the preachers. > We have come across earlier wrtie ups and have seen several catsrophies taking place involving human loss and devastation. Recent incidence( example Tsunami) that occured in Indonesia.Earthquak es that recently occured taking life of hundreds and thousands of lives. > These major events do lead us to believe religion and faiths involved. > Infact we find very analytical and scientifi explanations in our Mundane Studies in Astrology for these calamities.The basis and predictions are not unbelievable. " Grahakutami " know in common parlance Graha Yuddha are cyclic/rare events making us to believe History repeats. > Over the last decade for one or other reasons faith and religion taking strong roots in every corner of the globe.It is not without reason.Even the multidimensional growth of technology leading to enhancement of insecurity paves way for stronger faith in religion and worship. > Jyotish now ambitious to explore basis for several myths is trying to reason out through planets.It does convey such write ups and basis for such forecasts can not be said as blind.only time that changes rapidly can only attest for the realities.we are no doumbt very temporary and only preparing ourselves to call it a day and bid good bye,we may not like but certain things are inevitable.Imbalanc es in the universe are too natural to be be accpeted.So what Mayan Calenders evets as 2012 is some what a scietific apprehension put in the form of faith and beleif.We should welcome ISCON's efforts to do pariharas to save the world.Such efforts as long as have no negative impacy one should not condemn > vrkishnan > > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:32 PM For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > tragic, no matter what! > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on > death which is inevitable! > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or > Forever? > > RR > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > forthcoming > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > (Mai). > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some > danger > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) > make > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > ------------ -- > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > http://rohinaa. com > > rafal@/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Rohini Dada, Sorry for my infringement " entertainment gets so serious and we get anxious " Life is like that and fell a thrill about it and get saddened when motility dimnishes The factor that is always of interest is the motilitili/mobilty/change leading to entertainment vrkrishnan. --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:43 AM Dear Arjun-ji, Actually They are! At least comprehensible! It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, scary but depends on who you are riding with on these! I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and children in this lifetime and lifeplan. With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up and down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on placed just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get anxious. With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! It *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated by the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity for learning! Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > dear friends > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for astrologers or > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those who > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > merits. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > Dear Friends, > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, even > in > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > Consider it to be a best opportunity. ..you got 3 precious years > before > > final destruction. > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the *next*creation. > > Stop worrying now.. > > Give your best shot!! > > Thank you, > > . > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus > on > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now > or > > > Forever? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > societies, > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > forthcoming > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > some > > > danger > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > involved) > > > make > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar > bad > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > ------------ -- > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Death is not peace other than for the one who died! But it is a strange mixture of reality and fantasy and wishful thinking that must come to hit the brickwall of reality and then must evolve into something magical and strong, much stronger than reality as we know it in a worldly sense! And when you least expect it, a gift or two arrives which is physical but really spiritual! Something you can not ignore and MUST look after! RR , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Shri Rohini dada, > This is truth but hesitant to accept: > " SADLY, ONLY when *GURUS* die is their true worth and spiritual > longevity revealed! " > Importance is felt only when one is not in reach.No exception even in the case of GURU as he is no way different from normal man (follower) when it comes to the matter of death. > To be at peace is death.otherwise a state of samdhi which only GURU can think of and " plan for " > The followers have sevral other things to divesify to justify their association and form part of society.A place of attraction is society > vrkrishnan > > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > Friday, January 23, 2009, 1:09 AM Krishnan Dada, > > Please allow me to be morbid! > > I have always believed that the power and vitality and validity of a > GURU or MESSIAH is in how long His/Her teachings last after earthly > departure! > > SADLY, ONLY when *GURUS* die is their true worth and spiritual > longevity revealed! > > Don't believe me? Please look around and even in the last few decades > or a few centuries! > > Rohiniranjan > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > In all most faiths,from time to time some such studies do take > place.In the process,the faith becomes stronger as people believe the > religion and the preachers. > > We have come across earlier wrtie ups and have seen several > catsrophies taking place involving human loss and devastation. Recent > incidence( example Tsunami) that occured in Indonesia.Earthquak es > that recently occured taking life of hundreds and thousands of lives. > > These major events do lead us to believe religion and faiths > involved. > > Infact we find very analytical and scientifi explanations in our > Mundane Studies in Astrology for these calamities.The basis and > predictions are not unbelievable. " Grahakutami " know in common parlance > Graha Yuddha are cyclic/rare events making us to believe History > repeats. > > Over the last decade for one or other reasons faith and religion > taking strong roots in every corner of the globe.It is not without > reason.Even the multidimensional growth of technology leading to > enhancement of insecurity paves way for stronger faith in religion > and worship. > > Jyotish now ambitious to explore basis for several myths is trying > to reason out through planets.It does convey such write ups and basis > for such forecasts can not be said as blind.only time that changes > rapidly can only attest for the realities.we are no doumbt very > temporary and only preparing ourselves to call it a day and bid good > bye,we may not like but certain things are inevitable.Imbalanc es in > the universe are too natural to be be accpeted.So what Mayan > Calenders evets as 2012 is some what a scietific apprehension put in > the form of faith and beleif.We should welcome ISCON's efforts to do > pariharas to save the world.Such efforts as long as have no negative > impacy one should not condemn > > vrkishnan > > > > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > > > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:32 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus on > > death which is inevitable! > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! Now or > > Forever? > > > > RR > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > societies, > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > forthcoming > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars > > (Mai). > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some > > danger > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > involved) > > make > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar > bad > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 What I meant was, as I am sure your understood and just wanted me to elaborate for the benefit of others and me -- When we are blessed with a child and we play with the little God or Goddess, human beings must remember that the state is no constant and unless you are prepared for growth and growing up, there could be problems! YOURS! , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Rohini Dada, > Sorry for my infringement > " entertainment gets so serious and we get > anxious " Life is like that and fell a thrill about it > and get saddened when motility dimnishes > The factor that is always of interest is the motilitili/mobilty/change leading to entertainment > vrkrishnan. > > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:43 AM Dear Arjun-ji, > > Actually They are! At least comprehensible! > > It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, scary > but depends on who you are riding with on these! > > I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and > children in this lifetime and lifeplan. > > With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an > easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up and > down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated > lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on placed > just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I > clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into > this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get > anxious. > > With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing > perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! It > *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated by > the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity for > learning! > > Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... > > Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! > > , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for astrologers > or > > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those who > > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > > merits. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > , " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > Dear Friends, > > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, > even > > in > > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > > Consider it to be a best opportunity. ..you got 3 precious years > > before > > > final destruction. > > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the > *next*creation. > > > Stop worrying now.. > > > Give your best shot!! > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus > > on > > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! > Now > > or > > > > Forever? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > > societies, > > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > > forthcoming > > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some > calendars > > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > > some > > > > danger > > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > > involved) > > > > make > > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon- devotee > > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches > similar > > bad > > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > > ------------ -- > > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Sir, Thank You Sir for further elaboration.Undoubtedly growth and growing(processes) is a necessity(evil) and has to be accepted.Not that it is a metabolic sign.But also an essentiality from the point of view things to be accomplised.otherwise we can conclude Jyotish by giving attetion to only six bahvas/first half only. Problem however that remains inexplicable is our outlook.Might be an issue for psychologists.But then Professional Astrologer need also to know while making flash back predictions. vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion Friday, January 23, 2009, 2:08 AM What I meant was, as I am sure your understood and just wanted me to elaborate for the benefit of others and me -- When we are blessed with a child and we play with the little God or Goddess, human beings must remember that the state is no constant and unless you are prepared for growth and growing up, there could be problems! YOURS! , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Dada, > Sorry for my infringement > " entertainment gets so serious and we get > anxious " Life is like that and fell a thrill about it > and get saddened when motility dimnishes > The factor that is always of interest is the motilitili/mobilty/ change leading to entertainment > vrkrishnan. > > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:43 AM Dear Arjun-ji, > > Actually They are! At least comprehensible! > > It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, scary > but depends on who you are riding with on these! > > I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and > children in this lifetime and lifeplan. > > With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an > easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up and > down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated > lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on placed > just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I > clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into > this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get > anxious. > > With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing > perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! It > *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated by > the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity for > learning! > > Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... > > Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! > > , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for astrologers > or > > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those who > > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > > merits. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > , " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > Dear Friends, > > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, > even > > in > > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > > Consider it to be a best opportunity. ..you got 3 precious years > > before > > > final destruction. > > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the > *next*creation. > > > Stop worrying now.. > > > Give your best shot!! > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus > > on > > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! > Now > > or > > > > Forever? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > > societies, > > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > > forthcoming > > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some > calendars > > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > > some > > > > danger > > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > > involved) > > > > make > > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon- devotee > > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches > similar > > bad > > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > > ------------ -- > > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear Members , Please be serious. I know the philosophy and politics behind all these, but would like to ask you little bit more. Question is simple : do you find in your astrological analysis this work as special or not? If yes, why? If not, why? Thank you. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ > > What I meant was, as I am sure your understood and just wanted me to > elaborate for the benefit of others and me -- > > When we are blessed with a child and we play with the little God or > Goddess, human beings must remember that the state is no constant and > unless you are prepared for growth and growing up, there could be > problems! YOURS! > > > <%40>, vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Dada, > > Sorry for my infringement > > " entertainment gets so serious and we get > > anxious " Life is like that and fell a thrill about it > > and get saddened when motility dimnishes > > The factor that is always of interest is the > motilitili/mobilty/ change leading to entertainment > > vrkrishnan. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > > <%40> > > Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Arjun-ji, > > > > Actually They are! At least comprehensible! > > > > It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, > scary > > but depends on who you are riding with on these! > > > > I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and > > children in this lifetime and lifeplan. > > > > With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an > > easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up > and > > down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated > > lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on > placed > > just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I > > clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into > > this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get > > anxious. > > > > With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing > > perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! > It > > *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated > by > > the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity > for > > learning! > > > > Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... > > > > Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for > astrologers > > or > > > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those > who > > > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > > > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > > > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > > > merits. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > , " " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, > > even > > > in > > > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > > > Consider it to be a best opportunity. ..you got 3 precious > years > > > before > > > > final destruction. > > > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the > > *next*creation. > > > > Stop worrying now.. > > > > Give your best shot!! > > > > Thank you, > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the > most > > > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why > focus > > > on > > > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! > > Now > > > or > > > > > Forever? > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > > > societies, > > > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > > > forthcoming > > > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some > > calendars > > > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > > > some > > > > > danger > > > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > > > involved) > > > > > make > > > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon- > devotee > > > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered > some > > > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches > > similar > > > bad > > > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > > > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > > > ------------ -- > > > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Member , Generally the description of fears you can find putting word 'year 2012' in the google. There is so much about it. I am wondering why on our forums noone ever raised this topic. If there is some branch which can accept this or deny this its indeed Jyotish! So do we have something to say about it, or we dont have the tools, or we cant use them, or we dont want to use them, or ? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal || Om Gurave Namah || Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Please tell us your views as a samvatsar & SJC Guru. Your opinion matters. Please write something about fears propogated by others, that will be nice. with regards. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- " we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Rafa³ Gendarz sohamsa@ ..com ; @ . com ; vedic astrology@ . com ; @ . com Friday, January 23, 2009 8:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas, Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. What is your opinion on that? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear sir, Namaskar Oh!, I did not thought about content of your posting .I did not include you among those spreading fear. The ending of reckoning in mayan calendar is cirulating news item for long .You reasoning is positional and existentially thought provoking. Mr Rafal has also refrred likly terrestorial phenomen in his posting. I was requesting SJC guru rafal To teach , What his views are as per astrology and how to arrive at vision of future. I have great respect to you and Sri Rafal. with regards. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava ------------------------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness."-- - Prem Chopra Friday, January 23, 2009 6:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion ~~~ Om Shree Ghaneshaaye Namaha ~~~~~~ Om Shree Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~ Dear Swami Ji Namaskaram Did I say Earth no not at all. But You have to fimiliar with the fact " Sitaron Ke Aage Jahan Aur Bhi Hain " As the chart show Possibility of focus Equator as well as Lack of Gravitational force. When ever there is any changes found in Solar System. Because the Inner Source of Earth use to Vibrate This is same happens in all Settelite of the Planets too. The main thing is if this is going to happen the every evil makes their Shadows Before you know the this fact too. So Just to say whether it will happen or not but every thing must be under Count. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra 2009/1/23 swami <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Please tell us your views as a samvatsar & SJC Guru. Your opinion matters.Please write something about fears propogated by others, that will be nice. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------" we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness."-- - Rafa³ Gendarz sohamsa ; ; vedic astrology ; Friday, January 23, 2009 8:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Jyotishas,Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devoteedelivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers.What is your opinion on that?RegardsRafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru--------------Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa.comrafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and list, Namaskar. In mundane matters there are few books, but the works of Varahamihira are more lucid in this regard. Here are a few points which I have learned through the discussions of Sanjayji and also from some classical texts. Notably based on almost all Vedic calendar calculations, we are no way near the end of the world (Kalpa), and any doomsday predictions, If anything, we could be seeing some calamities in the world. Principles The movable signs when afflicted by malefics disturb the world on account of the sign afflicted. Herein Aries indicates the military, Cancer the agriculture and resources, Libra the trade market and finally Capricorn shows the advisers and forecasters (astrologers too) of the king. The movable signs are the main controllers of the country and world, hence the importance of the same herein. Major natural disasters usually happen when Saturn is retrograde whilst Mars is placed in Taurus, Scorpio, Sagittarius or Pisces. The event will specifically happen during a full or new moon. Depending on the sign you can see the nature of the event, i.e. when Mars was in Scorpio as Saturn was retrograde and full moon, the Tsunami (quake and water incident) in Banda Aceh happened. In the chart given for the end of the Mayan Calendar, we don't see the signs of a natural disasters, but Mars and Saturn are in the movable signs. Notably in exaltations signs which cannot be damaged. The nodes are also not problematically placed. Based on this, I don't see what is there to fear about the end of the Mayan Calendar. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafa³ Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Member , Generally the description of fears you can find putting word 'year 2012' in the google. There is so much about it. I am wondering why on our forums noone ever raised this topic. If there is some branch which can accept this or deny this its indeed Jyotish! So do we have something to say about it, or we dont have the tools, or we cant use them, or we dont want to use them, or ? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com || Om Gurave Namah || Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Please tell us your views as a samvatsar & SJC Guru. Your opinion matters. Please write something about fears propogated by others, that will be nice. with regards. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- " we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Rafa³ Gendarz sohamsa@ ..com ; @ . com ; vedic astrology@ . com ; @ . com Friday, January 23, 2009 8:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas, Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. What is your opinion on that? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 dear rafalji this is a discussion group and members are free to discuss, opine, express views and also analyse astrologically on a myth that is negatively rumourmongering and making people unsafe unnecessarily. since you are asking a specific question with an objective type yes or no and if so why, let me answer that i do not find any credence in this theory except that acts of god may or can or will happen at the grace of the almighty about which i cannot predict astrologically. for any astrologer who try to fix any gochara or planetary occurance in 2012 must mention whether such combination happened in the past and if so whether the world ended then or not. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Members , > > Please be serious. I know the philosophy and politics behind all these, > but would like to ask you little bit more. > > > Question is simple : do you find in your astrological analysis this work > as special or not? If yes, why? If not, why? > > Thank you. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > What I meant was, as I am sure your understood and just wanted me to > > elaborate for the benefit of others and me -- > > > > When we are blessed with a child and we play with the little God or > > Goddess, human beings must remember that the state is no constant and > > unless you are prepared for growth and growing up, there could be > > problems! YOURS! > > > > > > <%40>, vattem krishnan > > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Dada, > > > Sorry for my infringement > > > " entertainment gets so serious and we get > > > anxious " Life is like that and fell a thrill about it > > > and get saddened when motility dimnishes > > > The factor that is always of interest is the > > motilitili/mobilty/ change leading to entertainment > > > vrkrishnan. > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > Re: Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion > > > > > <%40> > > > Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Arjun-ji, > > > > > > Actually They are! At least comprehensible! > > > > > > It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, > > scary > > > but depends on who you are riding with on these! > > > > > > I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and > > > children in this lifetime and lifeplan. > > > > > > With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an > > > easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up > > and > > > down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated > > > lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on > > placed > > > just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I > > > clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into > > > this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get > > > anxious. > > > > > > With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing > > > perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! > > It > > > *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated > > by > > > the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity > > for > > > learning! > > > > > > Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... > > > > > > Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! > > > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > > > <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for > > astrologers > > > or > > > > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those > > who > > > > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > > > > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > > > > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > > > > merits. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > , " " > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, > > > even > > > > in > > > > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > > > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > > > > Consider it to be a best opportunity. ..you got 3 precious > > years > > > > before > > > > > final destruction. > > > > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the > > > *next*creation. > > > > > Stop worrying now.. > > > > > Give your best shot!! > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the > > most > > > > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why > > focus > > > > on > > > > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! > > > Now > > > > or > > > > > > Forever? > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > > > > societies, > > > > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > > > > forthcoming > > > > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some > > > calendars > > > > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > > > > some > > > > > > danger > > > > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > > > > involved) > > > > > > make > > > > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon- > > devotee > > > > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered > > some > > > > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches > > > similar > > > > bad > > > > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > > > > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > > > > ------------ -- > > > > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > > > > http://rohinaa. com > > > > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Dear Rafal JI and others Namaskaram All Clearance of the Mayan Calender Link Vedio about 2012. http://www.experiencefestival.com/forum/vBTube.php?do=view & vidid=OZeMjwnD5PM Thanks Tem Pram Chopra 2009/1/23 Prem Chopra <pramchopra1964 Dear Swami Ji Thanks for clearification I repect your thoughts. I think it is only a matter of Astronomical Plus Astrological Foresight of Mayan Which cannot be ignored as NASA have already seen that sometime Those matters of disasters are to be Foreseen by the Astro Spiritual Persons. There are so many times when Sattelite and given some Chance of Cyclone but it does not given that much problem which are seen by the Sattelite because Science is based on expectations or experience not Prophecy Conclusion. So I mean to Say is Chances of Rising is true then elimination of the Situation must be given by them. If they can read this kind of Destruction then they also know how to proceed or check the Ultimate cause and also the beginning of the Missing Ships and Aeroplanes. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra 2009/1/23 swami <swami || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear sir, Namaskar Oh!, I did not thought about content of your posting .I did not include you among those spreading fear. The ending of reckoning in mayan calendar is cirulating news item for long .You reasoning is positional and existentially thought provoking. Mr Rafal has also refrred likly terrestorial phenomen in his posting. I was requesting SJC guru rafal To teach , What his views are as per astrology and how to arrive at vision of future. I have great respect to you and Sri Rafal. with regards. OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava ------------------------ " we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. " -- - Prem Chopra Friday, January 23, 2009 6:22 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion ~~~ Om Shree Ghaneshaaye Namaha ~~~~~~ Om Shree Ridhi Sidhi Devi Namaha ~~~ Dear Swami Ji Namaskaram Did I say Earth no not at all. But You have to fimiliar with the fact " Sitaron Ke Aage Jahan Aur Bhi Hain " As the chart show Possibility of focus Equator as well as Lack of Gravitational force. When ever there is any changes found in Solar System. Because the Inner Source of Earth use to Vibrate This is same happens in all Settelite of the Planets too. The main thing is if this is going to happen the every evil makes their Shadows Before you know the this fact too. So Just to say whether it will happen or not but every thing must be under Count. Thanks Tem Pram Chopra 2009/1/23 swami <swami || Om Gurave Namah ||Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Please tell us your views as a samvatsar & SJC Guru. Your opinion matters.Please write something about fears propogated by others, that will be nice. with regards. OM TATSAT------------------------ " we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. " -- - Rafa³ Gendarz sohamsa ; ; vedic astrology ; Friday, January 23, 2009 8:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Jyotishas,Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devoteedelivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. What is your opinion on that?RegardsRafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru--------------Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa.com rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Thank you. Thats the explanation i was looking for. Can you please further enlighten about shukla-chaitra for 2011/2012 as suggested by Sanjayji? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal and list, Namaskar. In mundane matters there are few books, but the works of Varahamihira are more lucid in this regard. Here are a few points which I have learned through the discussions of Sanjayji and also from some classical texts. Notably based on almost all Vedic calendar calculations, we are no way near the end of the world (Kalpa), and any doomsday predictions, If anything, we could be seeing some calamities in the world. Principles The movable signs when afflicted by malefics disturb the world on account of the sign afflicted. Herein Aries indicates the military, Cancer the agriculture and resources, Libra the trade market and finally Capricorn shows the advisers and forecasters (astrologers too) of the king. The movable signs are the main controllers of the country and world, hence the importance of the same herein. Major natural disasters usually happen when Saturn is retrograde whilst Mars is placed in Taurus, Scorpio, Sagittarius or Pisces. The event will specifically happen during a full or new moon. Depending on the sign you can see the nature of the event, i.e. when Mars was in Scorpio as Saturn was retrograde and full moon, the Tsunami (quake and water incident) in Banda Aceh happened. In the chart given for the end of the Mayan Calendar, we don't see the signs of a natural disasters, but Mars and Saturn are in the movable signs. Notably in exaltations signs which cannot be damaged. The nodes are also not problematically placed. Based on this, I don't see what is there to fear about the end of the Mayan Calendar. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- Jyotish Guru (Vedic Astrologer) www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafa³ Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Member , Generally the description of fears you can find putting word 'year 2012' in the google. There is so much about it. I am wondering why on our forums noone ever raised this topic. If there is some branch which can accept this or deny this its indeed Jyotish! So do we have something to say about it, or we dont have the tools, or we cant use them, or we dont want to use them, or ? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com || Om Gurave Namah || Hare Ram Krishna Dear Rafal, Please tell us your views as a samvatsar & SJC Guru. Your opinion matters. Please write something about fears propogated by others, that will be nice. with regards. OM TATSAT ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- " we meditate on the adorable effulgence of the lord who creats everything, so it may energize our consciousness. " ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- - Rafa³ Gendarz sohamsa@ ..com ; @ . com ; vedic astrology@ . com ; @ . com Friday, January 23, 2009 8:41 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Tragic Year 2012 - Your opinion om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Jyotishas, Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific societies, especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the forthcoming year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some calendars (Mai). This also takes place in the same time when scientists find some danger for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is involved) make some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon-devotee delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches similar bad prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish Astrologers. What is your opinion on that? Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 dear RRji yes, your philosophy is understood and true in application. like a child grows and become a parent later, similarly a native seeking answers from astrologers and gurus learn the answers hopefully later and be in a position to give answers to others. as you mentioned in the other mail, death is certain for all with which answer dharmaraja pleases the yaksha and bring back the lives of his brothers. if a tsunami, a flood, an earthequake or any natural calamity or disaster takes away a village or a town completely, as astrologer at best helps like a weatherman warning the people to move away to safer places. but not all people take the weatherman seriously and call the weather forecasts a joke. i have been following the 5 day weather forecasts of CNN when in corporate travel and it is pretty accurate. the entire world is reeling under recession with unemployement a major problem in most countries. some countries may even face civil war and anarchy and lawlessness. with this backdrop, not astrologically but logically the world is bracing for tougher days with more pains in the offing. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Arjun-ji, > > Actually They are! At least comprehensible! > > It is like a ride on one of these fancy roller-coasters! Short, scary > but depends on who you are riding with on these! > > I have ridden on several of these and with my flesh and blood and > children in this lifetime and lifeplan. > > With the first experience, I was overly protective and it was an > easier ride (not quite a roller-coaster but the rides that go up and > down and try to convince you that you will end up with amputated > lower limbs since they seem to go so close to trees and so on placed > just rightly at safe distance! As we were bobbing up and down, I > clutched hard to my child, lest I lose what we brought forth into > this world! Sometimes entertainment gets so serious and we get > anxious. > > With the second experience, halfway thorugh my *fear* of losing > perhaps, this time a real roller-coaster I heard a wild laughter! It > *woke* me really! When the fears of a parent are not reciprocated by > the children they are blessed with, there OPENS up an opportunity for > learning! > > Parents can learn too, even while teaching and caring ... > > Astrologer and nativity: Parent and child! > > > > , " panditarjun2004 " > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > acts of god are not comprehensible and predictable for astrologers > or > > ordinary humans. wrath of god too is a similar belief by those who > > believe in acts of god. however, there is no way to predict or > > protect acts or wrath of god except to keep devoted to god and > > seeking his/her blessings besides doing all good deeds and accrue > > merits. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Friends, > > > Nothing is going to happen. Many people will say many things, > even > > in > > > India, specially in News channels, it is *over*hyped. > > > Even if it happens, why worry about it?Can you stop it? > > > Consider it to be a best opportunity...you got 3 precious years > > before > > > final destruction. > > > The work you do now, you can reap the results in the > *next*creation. > > > Stop worrying now.. > > > Give your best shot!! > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > For most individuals the year they are going to die is the most > > > > tragic, no matter what! > > > > > > > > Since 99.999% of them do not know when that would be, why focus > > on > > > > death which is inevitable! > > > > > > > > It is life and living that is evanescent and not permanent! > > > > > > > > So perhaps it is about priorities and getting them straight! > Now > > or > > > > Forever? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , Rafa³ Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > > > > > Dear Jyotishas, > > > > > > > > > > Generally we can regonize some kind of panic in specific > > societies, > > > > > especially those which put faiths in forecasts about the > > > > forthcoming > > > > > year 2012, which seems to be the final year for some > calendars > > > > (Mai). > > > > > > > > > > This also takes place in the same time when scientists find > > some > > > > danger > > > > > for our earth. Many devotees from Iskcon (Poland also is > > involved) > > > > make > > > > > some preperations for this year. Also my friend Iskcon- devotee > > > > > delivers some lectures about this issue and he gathered some > > > > > informations from AtmaTattva Prabhu which also teaches > similar > > bad > > > > > prognosis; probably this was confirmed by few Jyotish > > Astrologers. > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion on that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > > -------------- > > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > > http://rohinaa.com > > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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