Destiny Vs Free will and role of remedies

[Guest guest]

Dear Learned Astrologers,

 

I am for some time seeking answers to following questions in life.

 

I believe our vedic astroloy and you gurus have the answers.

 

1.Are we all 100% destined or do we have any free will in our life.

i understand we all have to abide by karma theroy ( sanchita,

prarabdha and agami) and we have to experience the fruits of our

prarabdha ( either happy or sorrow) depending on the deeds in our

previous lives.

 

Are our main events in our life are fixed, for example marriage, is

our life partner fixed by almighty ( as there is saying Runaanu

bandena Pasu pathni suthalaya), do we really have the free will to

choose our partner and the timing of these events also fixed (

according to Maha dasa / antar dasa)

 

How far can we alter the problems ( punishments as a result of our

paapa kaarya) indicated in the birth chart by following remedies.

 

Please enlighten me on the above queries.

 

Regards,

Venkata Rami Reddy

[Guest guest]

Reddy ji,

 

This is one of those evergreen topics in astrology.

 

A simple consideration: If life is 100% destined and we have no

control, then it can be deduced that we are not responsible for sins

and bad deeds because those were 100% destined too! If that is true

then we do not and never did generate karma!

 

I am sure the absurdity of such a thought is obvious to you ;-)

 

RR

 

, " ramireddy4u "

<ramireddy4u wrote:

>

> Dear Learned Astrologers,

>

> I am for some time seeking answers to following questions in life.

>

> I believe our vedic astroloy and you gurus have the answers.

>

> 1.Are we all 100% destined or do we have any free will in our life.

> i understand we all have to abide by karma theroy ( sanchita,

> prarabdha and agami) and we have to experience the fruits of our

> prarabdha ( either happy or sorrow) depending on the deeds in our

> previous lives.

>

> Are our main events in our life are fixed, for example marriage, is

> our life partner fixed by almighty ( as there is saying Runaanu

> bandena Pasu pathni suthalaya), do we really have the free will to

> choose our partner and the timing of these events also fixed (

> according to Maha dasa / antar dasa)

>

> How far can we alter the problems ( punishments as a result of our

> paapa kaarya) indicated in the birth chart by following remedies.

>

> Please enlighten me on the above queries.

>

> Regards,

> Venkata Rami Reddy

>

[Guest guest]

RR ji,

 

Thank for your thoughts in such  a simple and brilliant way.

 

But neverthless we cannot overrule the destiny in our lives created by our own

past karma in previous life.

 

I humbly request you to what extent can we excersie free will and how do we know

what is destiny and what is free will.

 

Can we influence events in our life with our free will or does it follow the

destiny pattern in store for us.

 

How can one use the remedies prescribed by our rishis to over come sorrow / 

difficulities in our life.

 

Please provide your valuble thoughts.

 

Regards

V R Reddy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 6:31:44 AM

Re: Destiny Vs Free will and role of remedies

 

 

Reddy ji,

 

This is one of those evergreen topics in astrology.

 

A simple consideration: If life is 100% destined and we have no

control, then it can be deduced that we are not responsible for sins

and bad deeds because those were 100% destined too! If that is true

then we do not and never did generate karma!

 

I am sure the absurdity of such a thought is obvious to you ;-)

 

RR

 

, " ramireddy4u "

<ramireddy4u@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Learned Astrologers,

>

> I am for some time seeking answers to following questions in life.

>

> I believe our vedic astroloy and you gurus have the answers.

>

> 1.Are we all 100% destined or do we have any free will in our life.

> i understand we all have to abide by karma theroy ( sanchita,

> prarabdha and agami) and we have to experience the fruits of our

> prarabdha ( either happy or sorrow) depending on the deeds in our

> previous lives.

>

> Are our main events in our life are fixed, for example marriage, is

> our life partner fixed by almighty ( as there is saying Runaanu

> bandena Pasu pathni suthalaya), do we really have the free will to

> choose our partner and the timing of these events also fixed (

> according to Maha dasa / antar dasa)

>

> How far can we alter the problems ( punishments as a result of our

> paapa kaarya) indicated in the birth chart by following remedies.

>

> Please enlighten me on the above queries.

>

> Regards,

> Venkata Rami Reddy

>

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Venkat Rami Reddy Ji and Shri Rohiniranjan Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

 

No doubt that it is an evergreen topic in astrology and for all those

seeking some peace of mind following spirituality; but however, if we

follow the teachings of Geetaa where Krishn Himself says that He

dcides all our actions and decisions - that means all Karm whether

they are Punya or Paap, are programed by HIM, not by " I " and " ME " do

anything. That means that only Destiny guides all our actions through

the fate or whatever. So nothing can be changed.

 

If at all, anything changes by its own, or by remedies or any other

means; according to Christianity, is the work of Devil.

 

With regards

Sushma

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Reddy ji,

>

> This is one of those evergreen topics in astrology.

>

> A simple consideration: If life is 100% destined and we have no

> control, then it can be deduced that we are not responsible for

sins

> and bad deeds because those were 100% destined too! If that is true

> then we do not and never did generate karma!

>

> I am sure the absurdity of such a thought is obvious to you ;-)

>

> RR

>

> , " ramireddy4u "

> <ramireddy4u@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Astrologers,

> >

> > I am for some time seeking answers to following questions in life.

> >

> > I believe our vedic astroloy and you gurus have the answers.

> >

> > 1.Are we all 100% destined or do we have any free will in our

life.

> > i understand we all have to abide by karma theroy ( sanchita,

> > prarabdha and agami) and we have to experience the fruits of our

> > prarabdha ( either happy or sorrow) depending on the deeds in our

> > previous lives.

> >

> > Are our main events in our life are fixed, for example marriage,

is

> > our life partner fixed by almighty ( as there is saying Runaanu

> > bandena Pasu pathni suthalaya), do we really have the free will

to

> > choose our partner and the timing of these events also fixed (

> > according to Maha dasa / antar dasa)

> >

> > How far can we alter the problems ( punishments as a result of

our

> > paapa kaarya) indicated in the birth chart by following remedies.

> >

> > Please enlighten me on the above queries.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Venkata Rami Reddy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

From my humble understanding, of Bhagwat Geet and such scriptures, and I am no

astrologer or so, Karm and Destiny are intertwined like two creepers growing

together. Karma begets destiny and destiny begets Karm.

For some Karm is destiny and destiny is Karm. Giving up karm will be giving up

destiny, but your destiny will propel you to karm, so you really can't avoid it.

In Gita, Krishna bhagwan says that even breathing is Karm. Whatever you do will

have consequences which you can't avoid, and those consequences have been

ordained previously. I understand that even a person's asking question to an

astrologer have been written up somewhere, thats why some knowledge fountains

look for the right time to answer the questions too so that the native can

attempt to do his\her related karm from a destined time.

Just like the lyrics of the song by Jagjit Singh, Tu hi bigade, tu hi saware, is

jag ke saare kaam. Hey Ram.

 

Please do not send any questions to me. I am myself waiting for mine to be

answered.

 

Regards

Sachin

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Great discussion. My current feeling about this topic are also

continuously changing. However, i've come to the conclusion that

destiny is a result if karma. Granted, we are destined to do

something. We are either destined to NOT do something or DO something.

 

Krishna bhagwan said to focus on karma and dharma, because destiny

will take care of it self. If we are guided by destiny then we do not

have free-will. Thus, the only empowering aspect to human-life is our

ability to reason. We are capable of reasoning between right and

wrong, and that is our dharma. Our dharma is to reason between right

and wrong, and focus on the truth. Through the truth we must perform

our karma.

 

Focusing on destiny, and even more dangerous, the future, people

forget their purpose.

 

People that are deemed " successful " in life are the ones that focus

completely on the task(s) at hand. They let destiny make its own mark.

 

Sri Ram said that we are capable of being more powerful than the gods.

Through self-study and self-awareness it is possible.

[Guest guest]

Please enlighten me:

 

Does Bhagwan Krishna while relating Geeta Upadesh indicate that His

Words were for the great unwashed like us or were those for the

benefit of Arjuna?

 

Perhaps we all should first strive to become like Arujuna and then

many many janmaas later we may begin to understand what Lord Krishna

was saying in Gita ;-)

 

RR

 

, sachin kumar chander

<sachin_chander wrote:

>

> From my humble understanding, of Bhagwat Geet and such scriptures,

and I am no astrologer or so, Karm and Destiny are intertwined like

two creepers growing together. Karma begets destiny and destiny

begets Karm.

> For some Karm is destiny and destiny is Karm. Giving up karm will

be giving up destiny, but your destiny will propel you to karm, so

you really can't avoid it. In Gita, Krishna bhagwan says that even

breathing is Karm. Whatever you do will have consequences which you

can't avoid, and those consequences have been ordained previously. I

understand that even a person's asking question to an astrologer have

been written up somewhere, thats why some knowledge fountains look

for the right time to answer the questions too so that the native can

attempt to do his\her related karm from a destined time.

> Just like the lyrics of the song by Jagjit Singh, Tu hi bigade, tu

hi saware, is jag ke saare kaam. Hey Ram.

>  

> Please do not send any questions to me. I am myself waiting for

mine to be answered.

>  

> Regards

> Sachin

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Reddyji,

 

Seconds before I read your posting, interestingly, I posted something

in this thread which might address some of what you ask.

 

Or not! ;-)

 

RR

 

, Venkata Rami Reddy

<ramireddy4u wrote:

>

> RR ji,

>

> Thank for your thoughts in such  a simple and brilliant way.

>

> But neverthless we cannot overrule the destiny in our lives created

by our own past karma in previous life.

>

> I humbly request you to what extent can we excersie free will and

how do we know what is destiny and what is free will.

>

> Can we influence events in our life with our free will or does it

follow the destiny pattern in store for us.

>

> How can one use the remedies prescribed by our rishis to over come

sorrow /  difficulities in our life.

>

> Please provide your valuble thoughts.

>

> Regards

> V R Reddy

 

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

>

> Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 6:31:44 AM

> Re: Destiny Vs Free will and role of remedies

>

>

> Reddy ji,

>

> This is one of those evergreen topics in astrology.

>

> A simple consideration: If life is 100% destined and we have no

> control, then it can be deduced that we are not responsible for

sins

> and bad deeds because those were 100% destined too! If that is true

> then we do not and never did generate karma!

>

> I am sure the absurdity of such a thought is obvious to you ;-)

>

> RR

>

> , " ramireddy4u "

> <ramireddy4u@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Astrologers,

> >

> > I am for some time seeking answers to following questions in life.

> >

> > I believe our vedic astroloy and you gurus have the answers.

> >

> > 1.Are we all 100% destined or do we have any free will in our

life.

> > i understand we all have to abide by karma theroy ( sanchita,

> > prarabdha and agami) and we have to experience the fruits of our

> > prarabdha ( either happy or sorrow) depending on the deeds in our

> > previous lives.

> >

> > Are our main events in our life are fixed, for example marriage,

is

> > our life partner fixed by almighty ( as there is saying Runaanu

> > bandena Pasu pathni suthalaya), do we really have the free will

to

> > choose our partner and the timing of these events also fixed (

> > according to Maha dasa / antar dasa)

> >

> > How far can we alter the problems ( punishments as a result of

our

> > paapa kaarya) indicated in the birth chart by following remedies.

> >

> > Please enlighten me on the above queries.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Venkata Rami Reddy

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to http://in.webmessenger./

>

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