Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Hello all, Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers), you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization). If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???...I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will and all other friends of mine will still survive ...MY DEAR!). Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements). Amin ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). Vivrit Anshumaan Live Rock Shine Malad West Mumbai 9821587524 9820126194 022 64246119 You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Hi Vivrit, I am trying to learn astrology and would like to know if the birth details you posted earlier are correct. 1st Oct 1975 1.30 am Ghatsila. Thanks, Nandini , " vivritanshumaan " <vivrit wrote: > > Hello all, > > Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. > Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers), you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. > > `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). > > Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization). If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). > In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???...I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will and all other friends of mine will still survive ....MY DEAR!). > > Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements). > > Amin > > ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. > (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). > > > Vivrit Anshumaan > Live Rock Shine > Malad West Mumbai > 9821587524 > 9820126194 > 022 64246119 > > You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 You remind me of the rising SUN, here to dispel all darkness! , " vivritanshumaan " <vivrit wrote: > > Hello all, > > Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. > Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers), you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. > > `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). > > Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization). If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). > In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???...I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will and all other friends of mine will still survive ....MY DEAR!). > > Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements). > > Amin > > ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. > (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). > > > Vivrit Anshumaan > Live Rock Shine > Malad West Mumbai > 9821587524 > 9820126194 > 022 64246119 > > You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 it is an eye opener and very interesting observations made by a very talented and anlytic professional.All his feelings as well as his expressions are hard facts and eye opener to many of us in the platform.may be we wre not interested in eeking out alivelihood out Astrology practice as profession vrkrishnan Than you Shri Anshuman ji --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Reality of life! Thursday, March 5, 2009, 8:01 PM You remind me of the rising SUN, here to dispel all darkness! , " vivritanshumaan " <vivrit wrote: > > Hello all, > > Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. > Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers) , you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. > > `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). > > Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization) . If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). > In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???. ..I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will and all other friends of mine will still survive ...MY DEAR!). > > Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements) . > > Amin > > ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. > (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). > > > Vivrit Anshumaan > Live Rock Shine > Malad West Mumbai > 9821587524 > 9820126194 > 022 64246119 > > You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Quite unrelated to all this, Krishnan dada -- I watched last weekend (after a very very long time -- decades really!) a hindi movie named " Anand " . It is about a cancer patient but this time Rajesh Khanna the first superstar as they began to be called (I personally think Yusuf Khan was the big cheese or in some ways Gurudatt too! But let us go with the flow!). Safar (*Suffer* as some of my science student friends called it!) was his first foray into " cancer " movies and he portrayed the panicking, help me, Why is God beating up on me? aspect of a cancer victim. I liked 'Suffer', but I liked the role of Amitabh better in *Anand!* The saturn rising doctor who had shelved his personal life into a shell of introversion surrounded by and hiding under Duty <SATURN RISING!> for a variety of reasons known only to him -- we can only guess! -- but then a dying stranger coming into his life like a sun-setting but really a SUN_RISE and reminding all of us of what was important during the PAST day that we did not notice! For the one who is dying, there is no next day, but the dying ANAND (BLISS) reminds us of the day that MOST of us shall have tomorrow and thus in that movie, Anand to me is the sunrise but Dr. Bhaskar (Amitabh's screen name) is more representative of Saturn who waits too long and then bursts out uncontrollably when his friends and support system is dying -- but he was sincere and his performance was SIMPLY SUPERB! No wonder that Amitabh made it BIG in Hindi Cinema! Maybe we should discuss the horoscopes of all these Superstars as well as other wonderful people that Ma brings to us to help them I suppose and hopefully we manage to help a few at least ...? Rohiniranjan , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > it is an eye opener and very interesting observations made by a very talented and anlytic professional.All his feelings as well as his expressions are hard facts and eye opener to many of us in the platform.may be we wre not interested in eeking out alivelihood out Astrology practice as profession > vrkrishnan > Than you Shri Anshuman ji > > > --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Reality of life! > > Thursday, March 5, 2009, 8:01 PM You remind me of the rising SUN, here to dispel all darkness! > > , " vivritanshumaan " <vivrit@> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. > > Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers) , you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if > we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. > > > > `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). > > > > Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and > who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As > an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization) . If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt > moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). > > In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???. ..I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will and > all other friends of mine will still survive ...MY DEAR!). > > > > Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements) . > > > > Amin > > > > ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. > > (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). > > > > > > Vivrit Anshumaan > > Live Rock Shine > > Malad West Mumbai > > 9821587524 > > 9820126194 > > 022 64246119 > > > > You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Dear Rohini da, How come we have same kind of emotional tie up.Both of them in Anand(though the picture gives Anand out of our swelling teaes) have carried many of us with their superb dialogues and action.I agree very unattractive and un photgenic face of of Big B(now) with his initial movies like Anand had made Hindi movies big international fame. Those were my young and youthful days and sacrifice and " tyag " have an emotional touch.No doubt has an impact even till date in my life.if Sun is one who initiates what is Anand it is Saturn who makes us to relise real meaning and depth of Anand.These two along with flirting is all the story about subject Astrology and all of us too keenly involved in the deliberations.jupiter benific or venus as guru for rakshas is more benific is amatter of judgement by different subjects in different manner.we are chased by nodes and mars is there to provide energy.we need mercury too use our intellect.is this what all the planetary melodrama. Nice that both of spider web to talk of Big B's and A's of past regards vrkrishnan --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Reality of life! Thursday, March 5, 2009, 9:42 PM Quite unrelated to all this, Krishnan dada -- I watched last weekend (after a very very long time -- decades really!) a hindi movie named " Anand " . It is about a cancer patient but this time Rajesh Khanna the first superstar as they began to be called (I personally think Yusuf Khan was the big cheese or in some ways Gurudatt too! But let us go with the flow!). Safar (*Suffer* as some of my science student friends called it!) was his first foray into " cancer " movies and he portrayed the panicking, help me, Why is God beating up on me? aspect of a cancer victim. I liked 'Suffer', but I liked the role of Amitabh better in *Anand!* The saturn rising doctor who had shelved his personal life into a shell of introversion surrounded by and hiding under Duty <SATURN RISING!> for a variety of reasons known only to him -- we can only guess! -- but then a dying stranger coming into his life like a sun-setting but really a SUN_RISE and reminding all of us of what was important during the PAST day that we did not notice! For the one who is dying, there is no next day, but the dying ANAND (BLISS) reminds us of the day that MOST of us shall have tomorrow and thus in that movie, Anand to me is the sunrise but Dr. Bhaskar (Amitabh's screen name) is more representative of Saturn who waits too long and then bursts out uncontrollably when his friends and support system is dying -- but he was sincere and his performance was SIMPLY SUPERB! No wonder that Amitabh made it BIG in Hindi Cinema! Maybe we should discuss the horoscopes of all these Superstars as well as other wonderful people that Ma brings to us to help them I suppose and hopefully we manage to help a few at least ...? Rohiniranjan , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > it is an eye opener and very interesting observations made by a very talented and anlytic professional. All his feelings as well as his expressions are hard facts and eye opener to many of us in the platform.may be we wre not interested in eeking out alivelihood out Astrology practice as profession > vrkrishnan > Than you Shri Anshuman ji > > > --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: Reality of life! > > Thursday, March 5, 2009, 8:01 PM You remind me of the rising SUN, here to dispel all darkness! > > , " vivritanshumaan " <vivrit@> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. > > Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers) , you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if > we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. > > > > `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). > > > > Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and > who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As > an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization) . If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt > moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). > > In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???. ..I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will and > all other friends of mine will still survive ...MY DEAR!). > > > > Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements) . > > > > Amin > > > > ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. > > (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). > > > > > > Vivrit Anshumaan > > Live Rock Shine > > Malad West Mumbai > > 9821587524 > > 9820126194 > > 022 64246119 > > > > You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Dear Krishnan dada -- In " Human Experience " that I had always thought human lifetimes have really been about -- emotions actually get in the way of experience! Sometimes it is possible to distance oneself just in time when someone is approaching with anger or approaching with affection: BOTH emotions! Behind both -- ANGER and AFFECTION lies LOVE! Lots of people make the mistake and think that LOVE and HATE are antonyms! They are not! They are in a sense passionate synonyms! ON the other hand: LOVE and APATHY are antonyms! Think about that...! , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Rohini da, > How come we have same kind of emotional tie up.Both of them in Anand(though the picture gives Anand out of our swelling teaes) have carried many of us with their superb dialogues and action.I agree very unattractive and un photgenic face of of Big B(now) with his initial movies like Anand had made Hindi movies big international fame. > Those were my young and youthful days and sacrifice and " tyag " have an emotional touch.No doubt has an impact even till date in my life.if Sun is one who initiates what is Anand it is Saturn who makes us to relise real meaning and depth of Anand.These two along with flirting is all the story about subject Astrology and all of us too keenly involved in the deliberations.jupiter benific or venus as guru for rakshas is more benific is amatter of judgement by different subjects in different manner.we are chased by nodes and mars is there to provide energy.we need mercury too use our intellect.is this what all the planetary melodrama. > Nice that both of spider web to talk of Big B's and A's of past > regards > vrkrishnan > > --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Reality of life! > > Thursday, March 5, 2009, 9:42 PM Quite unrelated to all this, Krishnan dada -- I watched last weekend (after a very very long time -- decades really!) a hindi movie named " Anand " . It is about a cancer patient but this time Rajesh Khanna the first superstar as they began to be called (I personally think Yusuf Khan was the big cheese or in some ways Gurudatt too! But let us go with the flow!). Safar (*Suffer* as some of my science student friends called it!) was his first foray into " cancer " movies and he portrayed the panicking, help me, Why is God beating up on me? aspect of a cancer victim. > > I liked 'Suffer', but I liked the role of Amitabh better in *Anand!* The saturn rising doctor who had shelved his personal life into a shell of introversion surrounded by and hiding under Duty <SATURN RISING!> for a variety of reasons known only to him -- we can only guess! -- but then a dying stranger coming into his life like a sun-setting but really a SUN_RISE and reminding all of us of what was important during the PAST day that we did not notice! For the one who is dying, there is no next day, but the dying ANAND (BLISS) reminds us of the day that MOST of us shall have tomorrow and thus in that movie, Anand to me is the sunrise but Dr. Bhaskar (Amitabh's screen name) is more representative of Saturn who waits too long and then bursts out uncontrollably when his friends and support system is dying -- but he was sincere and his performance was SIMPLY SUPERB! No wonder that Amitabh made it BIG in Hindi Cinema! > > Maybe we should discuss the horoscopes of all these Superstars as well as other wonderful people that Ma brings to us to help them I suppose and hopefully we manage to help a few at least ...? > > Rohiniranjan > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > it is an eye opener and very interesting observations made by a very talented and anlytic professional. All his feelings as well as his expressions are hard facts and eye opener to many of us in the platform.may be we wre not interested in eeking out alivelihood out Astrology practice as profession > > vrkrishnan > > Than you Shri Anshuman ji > > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Re: Reality of life! > > > > Thursday, March 5, 2009, 8:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You remind me of the rising SUN, here to dispel all darkness! > > > > , " vivritanshumaan " <vivrit@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > Nothing inspires me that I know of. Just felt like putting up some words and I am quite hopeful they will sum up to have a bigger meaning. > > > Okay, I am a professional astrologer from Mumbai who has been doing really good (what is good I don't know exactly, but then it's really better than before) for some time now and I just chose not to disclose it over here (for sometime) for my own personal journey. If someone got trapped in it can say thanks to the debilitated Jupiter in the transit which exposes all (it's only a testing time and by November all of us rise). Friends (astrologers) , you need to understand I am no different than you all. An astrologer only matures when he takes the hard slap on his face for his/her predictions and it might not just fulfill the basic criterion to be wrong while reading a thing. Don't at all be mistaken if you think I am going to do any injustice to astrology and the sincere abiders( because I know what all can go wrong while reading). I just want to hit back at the 'junta'(specific) which takes extra lead in criticizing astrologers for sick reasons as if > > we astrologers are some kind of inherent property of theirs. > > > > > > `We are not..', let me begin with this! I NEVER WANTED TO DO ASTROLOGY FOR A LIVING ( I was a topper in my school and knew various other things which my colleagues really struggled at).Yet after my engineering I had to do this for a living and I found it quite forced( I am no hero ;a serious realization which brought me close to GOD). > > > > > > Thence, I wouldn't have survived with my old clients in a city like Mumbai for almost four years now if I would have been that wrong....and wrong I have been. For those who feel happy listening to this should also know that I have only been wrong when literally I didn't want to read a horoscope( I was tired) or I felt this particular question from the 'core of convenience' of my able client is baseless or just catering some kind of illegitimate luxury which my inner conscious denies utmost (no matter who the person sitting on my chair is; a girl or a rich guy; I have been sexual and disoriented, but surely straight/not yet married and taken a wild ride with excuses; that's a different journey i will talk about later).If you thing I have spoken my core you are so very wrong..You need to read ahead. I completely believe that astrology shouldn't be a source of income, but I have better explanations for the same. We say everything is designed (who me and > > who you) by God ( Brahma the actual astrologer). I have been an able writer who was doing episodic work in serials and there are people who know me and still want me there. I have written 'KumKum' for 78 episodes for `cross verification' and I was never thrown out..I walked out considering it to be not satisfying creatively. Remember, money is always good in this industry if you are talented.. yet you have to live for what exactly you want. I am far good-looking than most of the aspiring actors who want to make it big over here and also those who have managed to make it (due respect).I always found actors to be a puppet in the hands of directors and the production house (many a times they are a slave of their own previous releases and that is just my own personal strong opinion). Born on first October, even my parents didn't know what a bomb I am turning out to be( i has hurt a lot). Now, before touching the core issue I want to expose my own self. As > > an astrologer I have at times charged extra money which I found quite insane ( only later; even if I knew it then I was not ready to compromise), but I did it with convincing words. If that was 20k, trust me I lost more than that in my personal life (big regret and a bigger realization) . If it was 8k, trust me, I always lived with the curse of being a fool and losing much more than that...but I loved the very feeling that God really-really does justice to all (rather I would argue to think so despite knowing the practical reality in general).The point remains, I could never LIVE that duped money and to add to the audacity...I did it more and the saddest part...I suffered much more than that. Me becoming eventually a sadist had to test it with God as he couldn't fulfill my first need in senses...My first love Got married to my best friend who knew it all; I just couldn't take it. He didn't respond over there, but when it comes to checking me on corrupt > > moves, he never slept (I hate him for this).Okay whatever said and done, I love it(again no options dude)..At least someone responds and we all want that to happen more often (In the wonderful and insecure era of terrorism where you wouldn't even come to know before a bullet hits your life forever;family not to spare). > > > In this contradictory world, One Tanveer from Bangladesh is the father to this forum.. Isn't that amazing? Now coming to the core.. The astrological texts can be majorly wrong (when it comes to finer predictions) because of various reasons (we are no God and I personally don't want to be). The best way we all can understand astrology is with experimentation and for that, practically speaking, we all need to dedicate thoughtful 8 to 10 hours a day precisely defining every move, etc. Now I come to the core of it...who pays for this..?? How can a person doing some other job manage it all in a day? I have seen on this portal itself how people are keen enough to simply get free guidance for one question to another and many more completely uninhibited. Who gives them that right? How insane they can be if they move to another question without a hitch in their hearts or head (system)???. ..I want to cater such people and show them the door proudly (I will > and > > all other friends of mine will still survive ...MY DEAR!). > > > > > > Rest can only be foolish reactions and trust me I don't care and I really don't want other astrologers to care for. They should remember that when the junta in general talks about QUACKS, they sadistically include us all. After so much of effort and putting up my wrongs I would not want to hear that (considering my fellow astrologers have never done that and mine was the biggest sin). I always conclude successfully that my good deeds were always much more than those few little bad once which eventually only ended up teaching me bigger lessons of altitude( have given consultation and other remedies to plenty of poor people without charging a single penny and got a special wonderful feeling out of that with major encouragements) . > > > > > > Amin > > > > > > ALLAH (Krishna-the amalgamation of all; that I think) can only mend a person's horoscope or life. > > > (If I am or my colleagues are a source.. please forgive us). > > > > > > > > > Vivrit Anshumaan > > > Live Rock Shine > > > Malad West Mumbai > > > 9821587524 > > > 9820126194 > > > 022 64246119 > > > > > > You can fight with me over the phone or etc , but logically be prepared..I am just not like other astrologers who will forgive YOU for your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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