Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings! 21/3

[Guest guest]

Dear AV pathi ji

 

please take the message of RRji in the right spirit

 

in this I find this part to be his key words than the words surrounding it

 

/// please INCLUDE enough astrological details ///

 

and similarly in ur reply

 

// I have traveled around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels //

 

rest can be ignored for the benefit of Jyotish knowledge sharing

 

and if u really run away only because of him u may know he is also in many

forums, so it is better for the subject if both of u use ur experience, wisdom

for all of our benefit by mutual discussions or exchanges and give less

importance to what can be distracting u. the love for the subject is common so

the platform/s available must be used effectively with all its challenges.

 

I have also bein the subject since dec 77 and studied under a guru from 86-06

and have been with him for min 6 months a yr due to aging parents their health

challanges I am constrained to be here and he too is old [my guru with

international presence hailing from the Mysore Maharaja asthana jyotishis]

 

I too found RRji's mails hard to deal with for the 1st 7 MONTHS AND AT TIMES

later ALSO BUT THIS doesnt MATTER MUCH AS ONCE WE DEVLOP a understanding of one

another we can see on what we can agree/converge and work within them, this

slowly can be enlarged as yrs roll on matters we disagree, wich can only shrink

 

peace will help all of us

 

I hope u will consider my msg in the right spirit as well.

 

 

 

thanks

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

 

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles

to many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to

know' on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an

educational institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> Â

> I may have to answer this at length.

> Â

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> Â

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200. That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

> Â

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> Â

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> Â

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> Â

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

> Â

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> Â

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

> Â

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

> Â

> (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in

Hindu Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada,

Germany, Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

> Â

> Pathi. (20/3/2009)Â

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> Â

>

> Â

> Â

> A.V.Pathi, Â

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,              Â

                    Â

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Prashanth ji,

 

I care less, how great Mr. Rohini Rajan is.  I care less how proficient in

astrology, he is.  He has no business to comment on every line every person

writes with a tone of authority.  No body, had mastered this great science. 

No one is born to comment on any one who sincerely attempts with what best he

can to make at large, everyone to get interest to know this science which is

older than any religion practiced in this world.  Who is he to write to me? 

Let him be big to you or to any one.  I am big myself, in circle where I am

admired.  He has no business to come to forum and advise me on my article.  As

Moderator you delete my article.  I care less for that also.  This 'one up'

attitude is intollerable in a public forum, however, great scholarly or super

human, he be in this subject.

 

Let me say thank you once for all.

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:16:56 AM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings! 21/3

 

 

Dear AV pathi ji

 

please take the message of RRji in the right spirit

 

in this I find this part to be his key words than the words surrounding it

 

/// please INCLUDE enough astrological details ///

 

and similarly in ur reply

 

// I have traveled around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels //

 

rest can be ignored for the benefit of Jyotish knowledge sharing

 

and if u really run away only because of him u may know he is also in many

forums, so it is better for the subject if both of u use ur experience, wisdom

for all of our benefit by mutual discussions or exchanges and give less

importance to what can be distracting u. the love for the subject is common so

the platform/s available must be used effectively with all its challenges.

 

I have also bein the subject since dec 77 and studied under a guru from 86-06

and have been with him for min 6 months a yr due to aging parents their health

challanges I am constrained to be here and he too is old [my guru with

international presence hailing from the Mysore Maharaja asthana jyotishis]

 

I too found RRji's mails hard to deal with for the 1st 7 MONTHS AND AT TIMES

later ALSO BUT THIS doesnt MATTER MUCH AS ONCE WE DEVLOP a understanding of one

another we can see on what we can agree/converge and work within them, this

slowly can be enlarged as yrs roll on matters we disagree, wich can only shrink

 

peace will help all of us

 

I hope u will consider my msg in the right spirit as well.

 

thanks

 

prashant

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles to

many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to know'

on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an educational

institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> Â

> I may have to answer this at length.

> Â

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> Â

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200. That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

> Â

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> Â

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> Â

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> Â

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

> Â

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> Â

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

> Â

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

> Â

> (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were assimilated

from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an American), a

practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time in Varanasi

as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit University, and

Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in Hindu Vedic Astrology

groups including United Astrology Group in Canada, Germany, Holland, U.K.and

U.S.A.)

> Â

> Pathi. (20/3/2009)Â

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> Â

>

> Â

> Â

> A.V.Pathi, Â

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,              Â

                    Â

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>