Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!-PEACE/PIECE

[Guest guest]

Dear RRji, ab pathi ki

 

i have approved the hot msg of av pathi ji which I felt could spark of a volly

either side and the current transits cud fule more trouble

 

I AM TRYING TO TAKE A CHANCE AND APPEAL to both AS BOTH OF u r quite elder to me

and also most members in the group and u will use ur energies and experience to

guides us than settle scores

 

and the addage VIDYA VINAYA SAMPANE will be tested if streched into a tussle, bu

if this leads to a good debate between 2 the experienced people the group

benefits/ our experiences must give u smore patience as u see I have been

singled out in several groups where I am not a member and ppl gossip on me in

astro threads without astro datta or pointers , what does this show

me or them in their true colors, by smearing me with nothing to match in content

esp birth data, astro factors they have exposed themselves- AS SUCH DID NOT

BOTHER ME SO FAR. I used to react TO ONE MEMBER at times now that too is not

needed.

 

 

i hope what i had said in my 1st reply THAT 2 lines one from each can be a

starting point of moving forward prevails

 

rest is left to ur wisdom, if it crosses any unhealthy limits I will stop

further msgs on this topic at once.

 

regards

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:30:30 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

 

Dear Prasanth ji,

Thank you. Honestly saying, you never deleted my messages. I never said that,

you did.

 

I am not in mood to answer any further on this. I will not - in simple language

- tolerate nonsense from any quarters. At my age 79, I need not keep quiet with

these silly elements butting their dirty smelling nose, without any reason., -

certainly not towards me. If I had not earned good name till this age, it is

not worth trying to earn one, anymore, while taking these to slaughter houses.

 

Kindly drop curtain and firmly tie it, as I beg of you not to discuss further,

on this.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:28:41 AM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear A V Pathi ji,

 

I understood the signification of chandra+rahu in Makara conjoined can make a

issue or two can drag many into emitional.ego conflicts so i choose to use role

of GURU a reason/logic/ advisor/spiritua l or inner vision and comme up with

some mid way approach

 

from here there r 2 points I must make

 

1st is WHICH ARTICLE OF URS DID I DELETE, SO FAR WHATEVER CAME FROM ANYONE I

HAVE PASED IT AS LONG AS IT HAD SOME ASTRO CONTENT Even if u remember the much

hated Lalit Misras also whom many felt was not an astrologer

 

urs why will I delete if any let me know and also

ASK u to resubmit it IF IT IS LOST IN any web bugs keeps reminding us of

 

if u see some mails of members do go to spam folder accidently and most affected

has been sri vattem krishna ji WHENVER IT HAPPED I HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO SAY

SO to the group

 

though no explaination is understood otherwise as 4/5 mails of his come in

normally 5th goes to spam is a bug

 

moderator central has been updating us of them

 

2nd point is if I allow ur current msg it will trigger a much avoidable volly of

mails both sides diverting members of astro content

 

as said i admire both of ur astrological experience and wisdom and let the group

benefit from it as well if u r not happy with RRji's msgs/ coments pl ignore

them as he often says too

 

but u can expand on ur initial postings can help many of us learn from ur

experience i mus t say

 

I hope tempers cool down and we start the sharing experience in right earnest

 

pl rephrase ur mail just sent can help all of us

 

rest is up to u

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles to

many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to know'

on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an educational

institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> Â

> I may have to answer this at length.

> Â

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> Â

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200. That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

> Â

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> Â

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> Â

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> Â

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

> Â

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> Â

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

> Â

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

> Â

> (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were assimilated

from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an American), a

practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time in Varanasi

as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit University, and

Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in Hindu Vedic Astrology

groups including United Astrology Group in Canada, Germany, Holland, U.K.and

U.S.A.)

> Â

> Pathi. (20/3/2009)Â

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> Â

>

> Â

> Â

> A.V.Pathi, Â

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,              Â

                    Â

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear  Prashant Kumar GB,

 

You will have my co-operation.  I had closed the matter.

 

Regards,

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:16:15 AM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!-PEACE/PIECE

 

 

Dear RRji, ab pathi ki

 

i have approved the hot msg of av pathi ji which I felt could spark of a volly

either side and the current transits cud fule more trouble

 

I AM TRYING TO TAKE A CHANCE AND APPEAL to both AS BOTH OF u r quite elder to me

and also most members in the group and u will use ur energies and experience to

guides us than settle scores

 

and the addage VIDYA VINAYA SAMPANE will be tested if streched into a tussle, bu

if this leads to a good debate between 2 the experienced people the group

benefits/ our experiences must give u smore patience as u see I have been

singled out in several groups where I am not a member and ppl gossip on me in

astro threads without astro datta or pointers , what does this show

me or them in their true colors, by smearing me with nothing to match in content

esp birth data, astro factors they have exposed themselves- AS SUCH DID NOT

BOTHER ME SO FAR. I used to react TO ONE MEMBER at times now that too is not

needed.

 

i hope what i had said in my 1st reply THAT 2 lines one from each can be a

starting point of moving forward prevails

 

rest is left to ur wisdom, if it crosses any unhealthy limits I will stop

further msgs on this topic at once.

 

regards

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:30:30 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear Prasanth ji,

Thank you. Honestly saying, you never deleted my messages. I never said that,

you did.

 

I am not in mood to answer any further on this. I will not - in simple language

- tolerate nonsense from any quarters. At my age 79, I need not keep quiet with

these silly elements butting their dirty smelling nose, without any reason., -

certainly not towards me. If I had not earned good name till this age, it is not

worth trying to earn one, anymore, while taking these to slaughter houses.

 

Kindly drop curtain and firmly tie it, as I beg of you not to discuss further,

on this.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:28:41 AM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear A V Pathi ji,

 

I understood the signification of chandra+rahu in Makara conjoined can make a

issue or two can drag many into emitional.ego conflicts so i choose to use role

of GURU a reason/logic/ advisor/spiritua l or inner vision and comme up with

some mid way approach

 

from here there r 2 points I must make

 

1st is WHICH ARTICLE OF URS DID I DELETE, SO FAR WHATEVER CAME FROM ANYONE I

HAVE PASED IT AS LONG AS IT HAD SOME ASTRO CONTENT Even if u remember the much

hated Lalit Misras also whom many felt was not an astrologer

 

urs why will I delete if any let me know and also

ASK u to resubmit it IF IT IS LOST IN any web bugs keeps reminding us of

 

if u see some mails of members do go to spam folder accidently and most affected

has been sri vattem krishna ji WHENVER IT HAPPED I HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO SAY

SO to the group

 

though no explaination is understood otherwise as 4/5 mails of his come in

normally 5th goes to spam is a bug

 

moderator central has been updating us of them

 

2nd point is if I allow ur current msg it will trigger a much avoidable volly of

mails both sides diverting members of astro content

 

as said i admire both of ur astrological experience and wisdom and let the group

benefit from it as well if u r not happy with RRji's msgs/ coments pl ignore

them as he often says too

 

but u can expand on ur initial postings can help many of us learn from ur

experience i mus t say

 

I hope tempers cool down and we start the sharing experience in right earnest

 

pl rephrase ur mail just sent can help all of us

 

rest is up to u

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles to

many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to know'

on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an educational

institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> Â

> I may have to answer this at length.

> Â

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> Â

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200. That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

> Â

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> Â

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> Â

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> Â

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

> Â

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> Â

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

> Â

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

> Â

> (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were assimilated

from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an American), a

practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time in Varanasi

as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit University, and

Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in Hindu Vedic Astrology

groups including United Astrology Group in Canada, Germany, Holland, U.K.and

U.S.A.)

> Â

> Pathi. (20/3/2009)Â

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> Â

>

> Â

> Â

> A.V.Pathi, Â

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,              Â

                    Â

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kumar ji,

 

As you may have observed over the years that you have known me in cyberfora, I

try my best to not get abusive or fly off my handle in this " mayavini " internet

reality!

 

You should have had no concerns that a change in how I typically behave would be

" in the cards " for me, this time, again :-)

 

RR

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Dear RRji, ab pathi ki

>

> i have approved the hot msg of av pathi ji which I felt could spark of a volly

either side and the current transits cud fule more trouble

>

> I AM TRYING TO TAKE A CHANCE AND APPEAL to both AS BOTH OF u r quite elder to

me and also most members in the group and u will use ur energies and experience

to guides us than settle scores

>

> and the addage VIDYA VINAYA SAMPANE will be tested if streched into a tussle,

bu if this leads to a good debate between 2 the experienced people the group

benefits/ our experiences must give u smore patience as u see I have been

singled out in several groups where I am not a member and ppl gossip on me in

astro threads without astro datta or pointers , what does this show

> me or them in their true colors, by smearing me with nothing to match in

content esp birth data, astro factors they have exposed themselves- AS SUCH DID

NOT BOTHER ME SO FAR. I used to react TO ONE MEMBER at times now that too is not

needed.

>

>

> i hope what i had said in my 1st reply THAT 2 lines one from each can be a

starting point of moving forward prevails

>

> rest is left to ur wisdom, if it crosses any unhealthy limits I will stop

further msgs on this topic at once.

>

> regards

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> venkatachala pathi <pathiav

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:30:30 PM

> Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

>

> Dear Prasanth ji,

> Thank you. Honestly saying, you never deleted my messages. I never said that,

you did.

>

> I am not in mood to answer any further on this. I will not - in simple

language - tolerate nonsense from any quarters. At my age 79, I need not keep

quiet with these silly elements butting their dirty smelling nose, without any

reason., - certainly not towards me. If I had not earned good name till this

age, it is not worth trying to earn one, anymore, while taking these to

slaughter houses.

>

> Kindly drop curtain and firmly tie it, as I beg of you not to discuss further,

on this.

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:28:41 AM

> Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

> Dear A V Pathi ji,

>

> I understood the signification of chandra+rahu in Makara conjoined can make a

issue or two can drag many into emitional.ego conflicts so i choose to use role

of GURU a reason/logic/ advisor/spiritua l or inner vision and comme up with

some mid way approach

>

> from here there r 2 points I must make

>

> 1st is WHICH ARTICLE OF URS DID I DELETE, SO FAR WHATEVER CAME FROM ANYONE I

HAVE PASED IT AS LONG AS IT HAD SOME ASTRO CONTENT Even if u remember the much

hated Lalit Misras also whom many felt was not an astrologer

>

> urs why will I delete if any let me know and also

> ASK u to resubmit it IF IT IS LOST IN any web bugs keeps reminding us of

>

> if u see some mails of members do go to spam folder accidently and most

affected has been sri vattem krishna ji WHENVER IT HAPPED I HAVE MADE IT A POINT

TO SAY SO to the group

>

> though no explaination is understood otherwise as 4/5 mails of his come in

normally 5th goes to spam is a bug

>

> moderator central has been updating us of them

>

> 2nd point is if I allow ur current msg it will trigger a much avoidable volly

of mails both sides diverting members of astro content

>

> as said i admire both of ur astrological experience and wisdom and let the

group benefit from it as well if u r not happy with RRji's msgs/ coments pl

ignore them as he often says too

>

> but u can expand on ur initial postings can help many of us learn from ur

experience i mus t say

>

> I hope tempers cool down and we start the sharing experience in right earnest

>

> pl rephrase ur mail just sent can help all of us

>

> rest is up to u

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

> Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

> Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

>

> I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles to

many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to know'

on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an educational

institution through your 'dominated' forum.

>

> I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

>

> With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

> Blessings.

>

> A.V.Pathi,

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

> Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

> I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

>

> I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

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> Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

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> Rohiniranjan

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> , venkatachala pathi <pathiav@ >

wrote:

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> > Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

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> > I may have to answer this at length.

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> > Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

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> > This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523)

and Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora

Sastra’ the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered

astrologer was Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and

transmitter of the knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public.Â

The Siddhantic calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the

equinoxes, continued to be used as India’s official calendar until

A.D.1200. That is the time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D.,

when Lunar Hijira calendar was introduced.

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> > Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

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> > The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

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> > Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

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> > To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> > Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> > Lahari                23°49’

> > Krishnamurthi   23°43

> > B.V.Raman       22°22’

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> > The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

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> > This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading

to wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of

Astrologer, could be at stake.

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> > I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as

almost correct for correct interpretations.

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> > (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in Hindu

Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada, Germany,

Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

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