Guest guest Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Saritha, a good post, and in the right direction INVARIABLY WE FIND GILRS OF TODAY ATTRACTED TO SUCH CHARACTERLESS PPL and defy their family, parents who have shown far greater love, concern than this mirage and still the girls get sucked into it and many dont come out like u did most come out burnt in such fire with a LOT OS SCARS both physical, mental, emotional and many blame everyone else than themselves. esp God some do suffer from guily and remain recluse. ur approach is the one we also suggest I myself have brought a few ppl to shape counselling or being with them in such times it is hard, thankless job most ppl stop at advices I have done beyond that and stood by them till them come out in a shape close to what u suggest and these battered women instead of being greatful have become more ruthless, uncomprosing and what else is there to loose kind and literally take revenge on society around them another bad side-extreme as care givers to the family thus society they deserve our support, understanding not all come to terms in a peaceful way though we try our best to do it that way seperation is the last option when the future of the children if any is involved at physical risk else it is a crime to deny the children the option of knowing their parent/s who spperated were actually was guilty this when they see it from their own eyes and ask their parent/s to move away helps the child come up emotionalluy, academically, professionally strong else all broken families children breed only break ups in every from of life around them be it a work, friends, relatives or their own children so people must take care of their responsiblites, risks and take a plunge forward else live by the time tested guidlines by pursuing arranged marriages the families beind them at least add to pressure to repair a troubled one, marriages are about adjustments only. there will be mistakes from both sides it is how they reconginse, identify, isolate it and solve it matters. if there is a family structure behind [arranged marriages] some one other guide u as a element of openness to listen is there in a marriage that has come up on defying everyone it is on a weaker footing so a draw back finally in any case ppl must recognise problems and seek solutions amicably, than go to extremses, like drugs, alchol, sucides... prashant ________________________________ Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67 Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:43:52 AM Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Hi, I am not an astrologer.. But I have gone through similar pain as you are going through right now.He promised he would marry me and fight with the whole world for me.My heart said " This is the right person for me!!! " .I fought with my parents,brothers and sisters for him.All memebers in my family told he is not good.I accepted him inspite of knowing that he goes to strip clubs,drinks, has bad friends,no job,etc.It's true " Love is Blind " . But when time came to prove his words,he decided to marry the girl his parents chose for him.When I confronted him regarding this matter,he abused me verbally and physically.He hit me a lot and used bad words for me.I was tormented mentally with his actions.One fine day he went away to his parents for marriage to another girl.Not only all this but he also spead rumors that I was characterless among his friends and that anyone could sleep with me and do anything with me. But there's a saying " behind every cloud there is a silver lining " ,I got job in a very good company just one week after he left.I was under the wrong impression that my life would become hell if he left me,nobody would respect me in society,everybody would talk about me,etc.But after he left me everything was quite opposite.Friends and family supported me.Neighbours started coming to my house and offered me a lot of help.I realised I was so happy without him. Later I came to know the girl to whom he was about to get married broke the marriage because he was jobless.He tried to contact me,but I never turned back and looked at him. As a woman and as your sister,I have one thing to tell you...It's time to take your stand!!! Try to get a job as teacher in some school..Three years is a long time to wait for someone. Don't let your life stand still.Keep moving forward!!! Don't let any " dork " take control of your life..Life is very short...Live life to the fullest... In short give him final " Ultimatum " if he doesnt listen then kick his ass and move on --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Raja <desi.raja > wrote: Raja <desi.raja > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:31 AM Hello Smt. Malhotra ji, You must have heard the phrase - " Nari tu Narayani " means nari is a form of narayani. Nari (Female) is able to do anything of might, reverse the unhappy marriage and make it happy one is small thing. I will strongly advise you should do that rather than relying on any advise on cyber forum to break up your marriage. Do you know for sure what will be your future after the divorce? No jyotish can predict that for sure. will you be able to remarry someone who can provide you every happyness in the world? I strongly doubt it. Divorce in our SAMAJ is a stigma especially for females and they end up suffering more in post-divorce. If you yourself will give up then no one will help you. Do not expect any miracle from your relatives or friends, they are ready to see you divorced so they can talk about you. Only you will suffer therefor i will say that You must take charge of situation and improve things. As an elder brother, I would strongly advise against this divorce. Yeh khayal hi dimag se nikal de aap. You should clean your mind of any doubts, sit down with your husband, communicate with each other, take a week vacation with him, do things that he likes, cook food he loves, help your in-laws, invite them to your house often, patch up with him to the best, create circumstances such that he has to feel good about you and he'll be back to you, create an environment of trust and love, talk to him about starting family - having kids etc and everything will work out for good. There are no established formula for divorce, no predictions are sure prediction. Marital ups-downs were there even for Mahadev and Narayana, we are mere humans. As a woman, you should be able to control circumstances and your husband too. I am trusting you to convert this situation and reverse whole thing in your happy marital favor. Please rethink whole thing. Pray to Ma Durga and your marriage will be a success, one day you will thank me. May Ma Durga bless you. -Raja , Honey malhotra <lotus7755@. ...> wrote: > thanks vatteji , prashant ji , harry nathani ji, > thank u for spending valuable time for me. but some final queries plz help me. > kya mera divorce destined hai. yani hone he wala hai. yani ho jayega. kyoki mere parents are not supporting neither my in laws are not taking interst in our matter. aab mai to sirf ek ek din nikal rahi hoo as i m fully dependent finacially. so main steps nahi le sakti. so what i want to know ki kya mera divorce hona likha hai kya. jaise kayi ghatnaye hum na soche ya kuch na kare to bhi ho jata hai. usi tarah doivirce bhi use duartion main hona hi hai kyo graha dasha supportive hai is liye ho jayega kya. > i think meri mental situation and real situation aap log samaz rahe honge. aur main kya jana chati hoon woh bhi aap sab samaz rahe honge. abt my husbands contact with that lady it is confirmed that he is still having physical relations with that lady and they are committed to each other. and he is take all responsibilities of that lady just like husband. > they had done abortion 4 yrs back before our marriage. due to family matters and problems that girl was not accepted by my in laws. > but now they are still having relations. he is living here but he is investing his mony and time with that girl only. so > i dont think i will get back him . so i m worried abt my future. but meri himmat nahi kadm uthane ki. aab karan jo bhi ho. isliye mai chati hoo ki ye ghatna ghat jaye aur situation aisi ho ki hamara divorce ho jaye. > aap sab plz samazne ki koshis karen main kya kahana chati hoo. > --- On Tue, 7/4/09, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 12:16 AM > Honey ji, > if we analyse the chart of your husband we find: > his maraigw ith you is by choice and in his 7th there is jupiter 7th as lord of 5th in retrograde state. > An agressive approach and with sun in lagna in own sign and mars along with mercury. > lagna raising in venus nakshtra and with venus posited in 12th he has his own ways of finding pleasure and has no holds for him. > Lord of 7th is aspecting saturn in dhana sthana in an airy sign.For him money is not an issue and can get along with any body easily. > His moon in dhanishta in 6th and venus in 7th too indicates that his spouse will be for sake of havin pleasent time. > About his having child,I have my own doubts as his 5th is aspected by saturn and dispositor jupiter in 7th. > Iam not sure whether you have verifed his contacts and proximity to other woman and he certainly belongs to a different class and community. > Now about your taking divorce,I do not think he will have any objection.and by all means by the end of sept 2009,you can get divorce. > It is doubtful he goes in for another marriage.and even he is not having any contentment in his own house > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 1:08 PM > > for replying me soon. > more that i want to tell > my husbands details are > 31/8/1974 > time - 6.35 am > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > he is already having his relations with other lady since last 7 yrs. had abortion done. cares nothing abt me . he even doent expect me to do . not even talks with me ask nothing. no outing. he never comes with me out at my parents place or any other place. he never talked with be even not at the time of marriage or before marriage. > i think he was forced to do so. > please study our kundali and suggest > for reference my details are > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- 6/4 > > Monday, 6 April, 2009, 6:37 PM > > Malhotra, > I remember ur post and good u said that data was wrong, but hope this is the right one also. > the period between 14/4/09 to 13/4/09 is the earliest u can think of seperation in this 9/3 to 11/5/10 is best suited for it, so till then be patient and try to win him back-give him a chance as u have for the past 3 yrs,,,! > prayers to any form of shikthi will pave the right direction for u, > Best wishes > Prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, April 6, 2009 5:00:06 PM > want to take divorce when i will get > respected gurujis > i m sunita > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > actually i m fed up with my husband. he is not good to me. > he is having affair with another lady. may be having children out side.. living out side. No physical relations with me since marrige. we are just living at one place without any relationship. now i want tio leave hm because after 3 yrs also there is no change in his behavior. > plz help me. > last time i furnished wrong details. actually these are the correct one that i got from my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Prashantji, Please find my answers below --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 Sunday, April 12, 2009, 5:26 AM Saritha, a good post, and in the right direction INVARIABLY WE FIND GILRS OF TODAY ATTRACTED TO SUCH CHARACTERLESS PPL and defy their family, parents who have shown far greater love, concern than this mirage and still the girls get sucked into it and many dont come out like u did most come out burnt in such fire with a LOT OS SCARS both physical, mental, emotional and many blame everyone else than themselves. esp God some do suffer from guily and remain recluse. >>I think here the subject is to help Malhotraji .I think you and me should support her emotionally instead of taking the topic somewhere else.Astrolgers are known to be like doctors healing wounds of ppl ur approach is the one we also suggest I myself have brought a few ppl to shape counselling or being with them in such times it is hard, thankless job most ppl stop at advices I have done beyond that and stood by them till them come out in a shape close to what u suggest and these battered women instead of being greatful have become more ruthless, uncomprosing and what else is there to loose kind and literally take revenge on society around them another bad side-extreme as care givers to the family thus society they deserve our support, understanding not all come to terms in a peaceful way though we try our best to do it that way seperation is the last option when the future of the children if any is involved at physical risk else it is a crime to deny the children the option of knowing their parent/s who spperated were actually was guilty this when they see it from their own eyes and ask their parent/s to move away helps the child come up emotionalluy, academically, professionally strong else all broken families children breed only break ups in every from of life around them >>Not true in all cases.I have seen kids whose parents are divorced and they are doing well emotionally,academically and professionally They are doing much better than those lazy and irresponsible kids whose parents provide them with everything so people must take care of their responsiblites, risks and take a plunge forward else live by the time tested guidlines by pursuing arranged marriages the families beind them at least add to pressure to repair a troubled one, marriages are about adjustments only. there will be mistakes from both sides it is how they reconginse, identify, isolate it and solve it matters. if there is a family structure behind [arranged marriages] some one other guide u as a element of openness to listen is there in a marriage that has come up on defying everyone it is on a weaker footing so a draw back finally in any case ppl must recognise problems and seek solutions amicably, than go to extremses, like drugs, alchol, sucides... prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67@ > Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:43:52 AM Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Hi, I am not an astrologer.. But I have gone through similar pain as you are going through right now.He promised he would marry me and fight with the whole world for me.My heart said " This is the right person for me!!! " .I fought with my parents,brothers and sisters for him.All memebers in my family told he is not good.I accepted him inspite of knowing that he goes to strip clubs,drinks, has bad friends,no job,etc.It's true " Love is Blind " . But when time came to prove his words,he decided to marry the girl his parents chose for him.When I confronted him regarding this matter,he abused me verbally and physically.He hit me a lot and used bad words for me.I was tormented mentally with his actions.One fine day he went away to his parents for marriage to another girl.Not only all this but he also spead rumors that I was characterless among his friends and that anyone could sleep with me and do anything with me. But there's a saying " behind every cloud there is a silver lining " ,I got job in a very good company just one week after he left.I was under the wrong impression that my life would become hell if he left me,nobody would respect me in society,everybody would talk about me,etc.But after he left me everything was quite opposite.Friends and family supported me.Neighbours started coming to my house and offered me a lot of help.I realised I was so happy without him. Later I came to know the girl to whom he was about to get married broke the marriage because he was jobless.He tried to contact me,but I never turned back and looked at him. As a woman and as your sister,I have one thing to tell you...It's time to take your stand!!! Try to get a job as teacher in some school..Three years is a long time to wait for someone. Don't let your life stand still.Keep moving forward!!! Don't let any " dork " take control of your life..Life is very short...Live life to the fullest... In short give him final " Ultimatum " if he doesnt listen then kick his ass and move on --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Raja <desi.raja > wrote: Raja <desi.raja > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:31 AM Hello Smt. Malhotra ji, You must have heard the phrase - " Nari tu Narayani " means nari is a form of narayani. Nari (Female) is able to do anything of might, reverse the unhappy marriage and make it happy one is small thing. I will strongly advise you should do that rather than relying on any advise on cyber forum to break up your marriage. Do you know for sure what will be your future after the divorce? No jyotish can predict that for sure. will you be able to remarry someone who can provide you every happyness in the world? I strongly doubt it. Divorce in our SAMAJ is a stigma especially for females and they end up suffering more in post-divorce. If you yourself will give up then no one will help you. Do not expect any miracle from your relatives or friends, they are ready to see you divorced so they can talk about you. Only you will suffer therefor i will say that You must take charge of situation and improve things. As an elder brother, I would strongly advise against this divorce. Yeh khayal hi dimag se nikal de aap. You should clean your mind of any doubts, sit down with your husband, communicate with each other, take a week vacation with him, do things that he likes, cook food he loves, help your in-laws, invite them to your house often, patch up with him to the best, create circumstances such that he has to feel good about you and he'll be back to you, create an environment of trust and love, talk to him about starting family - having kids etc and everything will work out for good. There are no established formula for divorce, no predictions are sure prediction. Marital ups-downs were there even for Mahadev and Narayana, we are mere humans. As a woman, you should be able to control circumstances and your husband too. I am trusting you to convert this situation and reverse whole thing in your happy marital favor. Please rethink whole thing. Pray to Ma Durga and your marriage will be a success, one day you will thank me. May Ma Durga bless you. -Raja , Honey malhotra <lotus7755@. ....> wrote: > thanks vatteji , prashant ji , harry nathani ji, > thank u for spending valuable time for me. but some final queries plz help me. > kya mera divorce destined hai. yani hone he wala hai. yani ho jayega. kyoki mere parents are not supporting neither my in laws are not taking interst in our matter. aab mai to sirf ek ek din nikal rahi hoo as i m fully dependent finacially. so main steps nahi le sakti. so what i want to know ki kya mera divorce hona likha hai kya. jaise kayi ghatnaye hum na soche ya kuch na kare to bhi ho jata hai. usi tarah doivirce bhi use duartion main hona hi hai kyo graha dasha supportive hai is liye ho jayega kya. > i think meri mental situation and real situation aap log samaz rahe honge. aur main kya jana chati hoon woh bhi aap sab samaz rahe honge. abt my husbands contact with that lady it is confirmed that he is still having physical relations with that lady and they are committed to each other. and he is take all responsibilities of that lady just like husband. > they had done abortion 4 yrs back before our marriage. due to family matters and problems that girl was not accepted by my in laws. > but now they are still having relations. he is living here but he is investing his mony and time with that girl only. so > i dont think i will get back him . so i m worried abt my future. but meri himmat nahi kadm uthane ki. aab karan jo bhi ho. isliye mai chati hoo ki ye ghatna ghat jaye aur situation aisi ho ki hamara divorce ho jaye. > aap sab plz samazne ki koshis karen main kya kahana chati hoo. > --- On Tue, 7/4/09, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 12:16 AM > Honey ji, > if we analyse the chart of your husband we find: > his maraigw ith you is by choice and in his 7th there is jupiter 7th as lord of 5th in retrograde state. > An agressive approach and with sun in lagna in own sign and mars along with mercury. > lagna raising in venus nakshtra and with venus posited in 12th he has his own ways of finding pleasure and has no holds for him. > Lord of 7th is aspecting saturn in dhana sthana in an airy sign.For him money is not an issue and can get along with any body easily. > His moon in dhanishta in 6th and venus in 7th too indicates that his spouse will be for sake of havin pleasent time. > About his having child,I have my own doubts as his 5th is aspected by saturn and dispositor jupiter in 7th. > Iam not sure whether you have verifed his contacts and proximity to other woman and he certainly belongs to a different class and community. > Now about your taking divorce,I do not think he will have any objection.and by all means by the end of sept 2009,you can get divorce. > It is doubtful he goes in for another marriage.and even he is not having any contentment in his own house > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 1:08 PM > > for replying me soon. > more that i want to tell > my husbands details are > 31/8/1974 > time - 6.35 am > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > he is already having his relations with other lady since last 7 yrs. had abortion done. cares nothing abt me . he even doent expect me to do . not even talks with me ask nothing. no outing. he never comes with me out at my parents place or any other place. he never talked with be even not at the time of marriage or before marriage. > i think he was forced to do so. > please study our kundali and suggest > for reference my details are > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- 6/4 > > Monday, 6 April, 2009, 6:37 PM > > Malhotra, > I remember ur post and good u said that data was wrong, but hope this is the right one also. > the period between 14/4/09 to 13/4/09 is the earliest u can think of seperation in this 9/3 to 11/5/10 is best suited for it, so till then be patient and try to win him back-give him a chance as u have for the past 3 yrs,,,! > prayers to any form of shikthi will pave the right direction for u, > Best wishes > Prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, April 6, 2009 5:00:06 PM > want to take divorce when i will get > respected gurujis > i m sunita > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > actually i m fed up with my husband. he is not good to me. > he is having affair with another lady. may be having children out side... living out side. No physical relations with me since marrige. we are just living at one place without any relationship. now i want tio leave hm because after 3 yrs also there is no change in his behavior. > plz help me. > last time i furnished wrong details. actually these are the correct one that i got from my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 every thing is ok some suggested me to just wait and watch. about trying actually im doing that only. from last 3 years. but if that guy my husband is already eengaged in anoher lady and living with that lady like husband and wife then what. who to use bhi dukhi hi kar raha hai for his parents he married me. and because he loves that girl he is not leaving her. but still us lady ne to use permission nahi di hogi shaadi ke liye. jab woh dono sath main 7 years se raha rahe hai. to usne use bhi dhoka hi diya hoga. meri tarah woh bhi taklif main ghool rahi hogi bas situation se compromise kar baithi hai. aab aise hsband se kya expect karoon. usne society aur parents ke liye sab ke samne mujhse shaadi ki. par uske bina raha nahi sakta. woh mujhe dekhta tak nahi. say shaadi ke baad hum honey moon ko bhi gaya to woh alag hi raha. aaj tak maine use usse baat karni ki koshish ki par usne kabhi response nahin diya. bas ghar main machine ki tarah rahta hai. ghar aana hai isliya aata hai. subah 8 se raat 11 baje the office main ya bahar rahata hai. baas. aab main kya karoon. hum dono ladkiyo ke sath usne apni manmaani ki hai. ghar wale us widow ko bahoo nahi banan chate the. woh ghar alon ko chod nahi sakta that ya ghar main mere sasoor ji ne use majboor kiya hoga. he is that kind of person. aur baki sab ne bhi us par presusre laya hoga. ek baar gusse main ghar main apne ghar waloon ko usne bola bhi tha. maine andar se ye baat sun li tin meri saas ne jhat baat sambhal li aur topic change kar liya. --- On Sun, 12/4/09, Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67 wrote: Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67 Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 8:14 PM Prashantji, Please find my answers below --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 Sunday, April 12, 2009, 5:26 AM Saritha, a good post, and in the right direction INVARIABLY WE FIND GILRS OF TODAY ATTRACTED TO SUCH CHARACTERLESS PPL and defy their family, parents who have shown far greater love, concern than this mirage and still the girls get sucked into it and many dont come out like u did most come out burnt in such fire with a LOT OS SCARS both physical, mental, emotional and many blame everyone else than themselves. esp God some do suffer from guily and remain recluse. >>I think here the subject is to help Malhotraji .I think you and me should support her emotionally instead of taking the topic somewhere else.Astrolgers are known to be like doctors healing wounds of ppl ur approach is the one we also suggest I myself have brought a few ppl to shape counselling or being with them in such times it is hard, thankless job most ppl stop at advices I have done beyond that and stood by them till them come out in a shape close to what u suggest and these battered women instead of being greatful have become more ruthless, uncomprosing and what else is there to loose kind and literally take revenge on society around them another bad side-extreme as care givers to the family thus society they deserve our support, understanding not all come to terms in a peaceful way though we try our best to do it that way seperation is the last option when the future of the children if any is involved at physical risk else it is a crime to deny the children the option of knowing their parent/s who spperated were actually was guilty this when they see it from their own eyes and ask their parent/s to move away helps the child come up emotionalluy, academically, professionally strong else all broken families children breed only break ups in every from of life around them >>Not true in all cases.I have seen kids whose parents are divorced and they are doing well emotionally, academically and professionally They are doing much better than those lazy and irresponsible kids whose parents provide them with everything so people must take care of their responsiblites, risks and take a plunge forward else live by the time tested guidlines by pursuing arranged marriages the families beind them at least add to pressure to repair a troubled one, marriages are about adjustments only. there will be mistakes from both sides it is how they reconginse, identify, isolate it and solve it matters. if there is a family structure behind [arranged marriages] some one other guide u as a element of openness to listen is there in a marriage that has come up on defying everyone it is on a weaker footing so a draw back finally in any case ppl must recognise problems and seek solutions amicably, than go to extremses, like drugs, alchol, sucides... prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67@ > Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:43:52 AM Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Hi, I am not an astrologer.. But I have gone through similar pain as you are going through right now.He promised he would marry me and fight with the whole world for me.My heart said " This is the right person for me!!! " .I fought with my parents,brothers and sisters for him.All memebers in my family told he is not good.I accepted him inspite of knowing that he goes to strip clubs,drinks, has bad friends,no job,etc.It's true " Love is Blind " . But when time came to prove his words,he decided to marry the girl his parents chose for him.When I confronted him regarding this matter,he abused me verbally and physically.He hit me a lot and used bad words for me.I was tormented mentally with his actions.One fine day he went away to his parents for marriage to another girl.Not only all this but he also spead rumors that I was characterless among his friends and that anyone could sleep with me and do anything with me. But there's a saying " behind every cloud there is a silver lining " ,I got job in a very good company just one week after he left.I was under the wrong impression that my life would become hell if he left me,nobody would respect me in society,everybody would talk about me,etc.But after he left me everything was quite opposite.Friends and family supported me.Neighbours started coming to my house and offered me a lot of help.I realised I was so happy without him. Later I came to know the girl to whom he was about to get married broke the marriage because he was jobless.He tried to contact me,but I never turned back and looked at him. As a woman and as your sister,I have one thing to tell you...It's time to take your stand!!! Try to get a job as teacher in some school..Three years is a long time to wait for someone. Don't let your life stand still.Keep moving forward!!! Don't let any " dork " take control of your life..Life is very short...Live life to the fullest... In short give him final " Ultimatum " if he doesnt listen then kick his ass and move on --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Raja <desi.raja > wrote: Raja <desi.raja > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:31 AM Hello Smt. Malhotra ji, You must have heard the phrase - " Nari tu Narayani " means nari is a form of narayani. Nari (Female) is able to do anything of might, reverse the unhappy marriage and make it happy one is small thing. I will strongly advise you should do that rather than relying on any advise on cyber forum to break up your marriage. Do you know for sure what will be your future after the divorce? No jyotish can predict that for sure. will you be able to remarry someone who can provide you every happyness in the world? I strongly doubt it. Divorce in our SAMAJ is a stigma especially for females and they end up suffering more in post-divorce. If you yourself will give up then no one will help you. Do not expect any miracle from your relatives or friends, they are ready to see you divorced so they can talk about you. Only you will suffer therefor i will say that You must take charge of situation and improve things. As an elder brother, I would strongly advise against this divorce. Yeh khayal hi dimag se nikal de aap. You should clean your mind of any doubts, sit down with your husband, communicate with each other, take a week vacation with him, do things that he likes, cook food he loves, help your in-laws, invite them to your house often, patch up with him to the best, create circumstances such that he has to feel good about you and he'll be back to you, create an environment of trust and love, talk to him about starting family - having kids etc and everything will work out for good. There are no established formula for divorce, no predictions are sure prediction. Marital ups-downs were there even for Mahadev and Narayana, we are mere humans. As a woman, you should be able to control circumstances and your husband too. I am trusting you to convert this situation and reverse whole thing in your happy marital favor. Please rethink whole thing. Pray to Ma Durga and your marriage will be a success, one day you will thank me. May Ma Durga bless you. -Raja , Honey malhotra <lotus7755@. ....> wrote: > thanks vatteji , prashant ji , harry nathani ji, > thank u for spending valuable time for me. but some final queries plz help me. > kya mera divorce destined hai. yani hone he wala hai. yani ho jayega. kyoki mere parents are not supporting neither my in laws are not taking interst in our matter. aab mai to sirf ek ek din nikal rahi hoo as i m fully dependent finacially. so main steps nahi le sakti. so what i want to know ki kya mera divorce hona likha hai kya. jaise kayi ghatnaye hum na soche ya kuch na kare to bhi ho jata hai. usi tarah doivirce bhi use duartion main hona hi hai kyo graha dasha supportive hai is liye ho jayega kya. > i think meri mental situation and real situation aap log samaz rahe honge. aur main kya jana chati hoon woh bhi aap sab samaz rahe honge. abt my husbands contact with that lady it is confirmed that he is still having physical relations with that lady and they are committed to each other. and he is take all responsibilities of that lady just like husband. > they had done abortion 4 yrs back before our marriage. due to family matters and problems that girl was not accepted by my in laws. > but now they are still having relations. he is living here but he is investing his mony and time with that girl only. so > i dont think i will get back him . so i m worried abt my future. but meri himmat nahi kadm uthane ki. aab karan jo bhi ho. isliye mai chati hoo ki ye ghatna ghat jaye aur situation aisi ho ki hamara divorce ho jaye. > aap sab plz samazne ki koshis karen main kya kahana chati hoo. > --- On Tue, 7/4/09, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 12:16 AM > Honey ji, > if we analyse the chart of your husband we find: > his maraigw ith you is by choice and in his 7th there is jupiter 7th as lord of 5th in retrograde state. > An agressive approach and with sun in lagna in own sign and mars along with mercury. > lagna raising in venus nakshtra and with venus posited in 12th he has his own ways of finding pleasure and has no holds for him. > Lord of 7th is aspecting saturn in dhana sthana in an airy sign.For him money is not an issue and can get along with any body easily. > His moon in dhanishta in 6th and venus in 7th too indicates that his spouse will be for sake of havin pleasent time. > About his having child,I have my own doubts as his 5th is aspected by saturn and dispositor jupiter in 7th. > Iam not sure whether you have verifed his contacts and proximity to other woman and he certainly belongs to a different class and community. > Now about your taking divorce,I do not think he will have any objection.and by all means by the end of sept 2009,you can get divorce. > It is doubtful he goes in for another marriage.and even he is not having any contentment in his own house > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 1:08 PM > > for replying me soon. > more that i want to tell > my husbands details are > 31/8/1974 > time - 6.35 am > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > he is already having his relations with other lady since last 7 yrs. had abortion done. cares nothing abt me . he even doent expect me to do . not even talks with me ask nothing. no outing. he never comes with me out at my parents place or any other place. he never talked with be even not at the time of marriage or before marriage. > i think he was forced to do so. > please study our kundali and suggest > for reference my details are > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- 6/4 > > Monday, 6 April, 2009, 6:37 PM > > Malhotra, > I remember ur post and good u said that data was wrong, but hope this is the right one also. > the period between 14/4/09 to 13/4/09 is the earliest u can think of seperation in this 9/3 to 11/5/10 is best suited for it, so till then be patient and try to win him back-give him a chance as u have for the past 3 yrs,,,! > prayers to any form of shikthi will pave the right direction for u, > Best wishes > Prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, April 6, 2009 5:00:06 PM > want to take divorce when i will get > respected gurujis > i m sunita > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > actually i m fed up with my husband. he is not good to me. > he is having affair with another lady. may be having children out side... living out side. No physical relations with me since marrige. we are just living at one place without any relationship. now i want tio leave hm because after 3 yrs also there is no change in his behavior. > plz help me. > last time i furnished wrong details. actually these are the correct one that i got from my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 HONEY jI, the issues is mianly financial support for you.You can break relation legally.But the other lady too might not be happy.Even your inlaws too are helpless.In this situation you need to wait and initiate action legally. vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Honey malhotra <lotus7755 wrote: Honey malhotra <lotus7755 Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 1:10 PM every thing is ok some suggested me to just wait and watch. about trying actually im doing that only. from last 3 years. but if that guy my husband is already eengaged in anoher lady and living with that lady like husband and wife then what. who to use bhi dukhi hi kar raha hai for his parents he married me. and because he loves that girl he is not leaving her. but still us lady ne to use permission nahi di hogi shaadi ke liye. jab woh dono sath main 7 years se raha rahe hai. to usne use bhi dhoka hi diya hoga. meri tarah woh bhi taklif main ghool rahi hogi bas situation se compromise kar baithi hai. aab aise hsband se kya expect karoon. usne society aur parents ke liye sab ke samne mujhse shaadi ki. par uske bina raha nahi sakta. woh mujhe dekhta tak nahi. say shaadi ke baad hum honey moon ko bhi gaya to woh alag hi raha. aaj tak maine use usse baat karni ki koshish ki par usne kabhi response nahin diya. bas ghar main machine ki tarah rahta hai. ghar aana hai isliya aata hai. subah 8 se raat 11 baje the office main ya bahar rahata hai. baas. aab main kya karoon. hum dono ladkiyo ke sath usne apni manmaani ki hai. ghar wale us widow ko bahoo nahi banan chate the. woh ghar alon ko chod nahi sakta that ya ghar main mere sasoor ji ne use majboor kiya hoga. he is that kind of person. aur baki sab ne bhi us par presusre laya hoga. ek baar gusse main ghar main apne ghar waloon ko usne bola bhi tha. maine andar se ye baat sun li tin meri saas ne jhat baat sambhal li aur topic change kar liya. --- On Sun, 12/4/09, Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67@ > wrote: Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67@ > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 8:14 PM Prashantji, Please find my answers below --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 Sunday, April 12, 2009, 5:26 AM Saritha, a good post, and in the right direction INVARIABLY WE FIND GILRS OF TODAY ATTRACTED TO SUCH CHARACTERLESS PPL and defy their family, parents who have shown far greater love, concern than this mirage and still the girls get sucked into it and many dont come out like u did most come out burnt in such fire with a LOT OS SCARS both physical, mental, emotional and many blame everyone else than themselves. esp God some do suffer from guily and remain recluse. >>I think here the subject is to help Malhotraji .I think you and me should support her emotionally instead of taking the topic somewhere else.Astrolgers are known to be like doctors healing wounds of ppl ur approach is the one we also suggest I myself have brought a few ppl to shape counselling or being with them in such times it is hard, thankless job most ppl stop at advices I have done beyond that and stood by them till them come out in a shape close to what u suggest and these battered women instead of being greatful have become more ruthless, uncomprosing and what else is there to loose kind and literally take revenge on society around them another bad side-extreme as care givers to the family thus society they deserve our support, understanding not all come to terms in a peaceful way though we try our best to do it that way seperation is the last option when the future of the children if any is involved at physical risk else it is a crime to deny the children the option of knowing their parent/s who spperated were actually was guilty this when they see it from their own eyes and ask their parent/s to move away helps the child come up emotionalluy, academically, professionally strong else all broken families children breed only break ups in every from of life around them >>Not true in all cases.I have seen kids whose parents are divorced and they are doing well emotionally, academically and professionally They are doing much better than those lazy and irresponsible kids whose parents provide them with everything so people must take care of their responsiblites, risks and take a plunge forward else live by the time tested guidlines by pursuing arranged marriages the families beind them at least add to pressure to repair a troubled one, marriages are about adjustments only. there will be mistakes from both sides it is how they reconginse, identify, isolate it and solve it matters. if there is a family structure behind [arranged marriages] some one other guide u as a element of openness to listen is there in a marriage that has come up on defying everyone it is on a weaker footing so a draw back finally in any case ppl must recognise problems and seek solutions amicably, than go to extremses, like drugs, alchol, sucides... prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67@ > Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:43:52 AM Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Hi, I am not an astrologer.. But I have gone through similar pain as you are going through right now.He promised he would marry me and fight with the whole world for me.My heart said " This is the right person for me!!! " .I fought with my parents,brothers and sisters for him.All memebers in my family told he is not good.I accepted him inspite of knowing that he goes to strip clubs,drinks, has bad friends,no job,etc.It's true " Love is Blind " . But when time came to prove his words,he decided to marry the girl his parents chose for him.When I confronted him regarding this matter,he abused me verbally and physically.He hit me a lot and used bad words for me.I was tormented mentally with his actions.One fine day he went away to his parents for marriage to another girl.Not only all this but he also spead rumors that I was characterless among his friends and that anyone could sleep with me and do anything with me. But there's a saying " behind every cloud there is a silver lining " ,I got job in a very good company just one week after he left.I was under the wrong impression that my life would become hell if he left me,nobody would respect me in society,everybody would talk about me,etc.But after he left me everything was quite opposite.Friends and family supported me.Neighbours started coming to my house and offered me a lot of help.I realised I was so happy without him. Later I came to know the girl to whom he was about to get married broke the marriage because he was jobless.He tried to contact me,but I never turned back and looked at him. As a woman and as your sister,I have one thing to tell you...It's time to take your stand!!! Try to get a job as teacher in some school..Three years is a long time to wait for someone. Don't let your life stand still.Keep moving forward!!! Don't let any " dork " take control of your life..Life is very short...Live life to the fullest... In short give him final " Ultimatum " if he doesnt listen then kick his ass and move on --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Raja <desi.raja > wrote: Raja <desi.raja > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:31 AM Hello Smt. Malhotra ji, You must have heard the phrase - " Nari tu Narayani " means nari is a form of narayani. Nari (Female) is able to do anything of might, reverse the unhappy marriage and make it happy one is small thing. I will strongly advise you should do that rather than relying on any advise on cyber forum to break up your marriage. Do you know for sure what will be your future after the divorce? No jyotish can predict that for sure. will you be able to remarry someone who can provide you every happyness in the world? I strongly doubt it. Divorce in our SAMAJ is a stigma especially for females and they end up suffering more in post-divorce. If you yourself will give up then no one will help you. Do not expect any miracle from your relatives or friends, they are ready to see you divorced so they can talk about you. Only you will suffer therefor i will say that You must take charge of situation and improve things. As an elder brother, I would strongly advise against this divorce. Yeh khayal hi dimag se nikal de aap. You should clean your mind of any doubts, sit down with your husband, communicate with each other, take a week vacation with him, do things that he likes, cook food he loves, help your in-laws, invite them to your house often, patch up with him to the best, create circumstances such that he has to feel good about you and he'll be back to you, create an environment of trust and love, talk to him about starting family - having kids etc and everything will work out for good. There are no established formula for divorce, no predictions are sure prediction. Marital ups-downs were there even for Mahadev and Narayana, we are mere humans. As a woman, you should be able to control circumstances and your husband too. I am trusting you to convert this situation and reverse whole thing in your happy marital favor. Please rethink whole thing. Pray to Ma Durga and your marriage will be a success, one day you will thank me. May Ma Durga bless you. -Raja , Honey malhotra <lotus7755@. ....> wrote: > thanks vatteji , prashant ji , harry nathani ji, > thank u for spending valuable time for me. but some final queries plz help me. > kya mera divorce destined hai. yani hone he wala hai. yani ho jayega. kyoki mere parents are not supporting neither my in laws are not taking interst in our matter. aab mai to sirf ek ek din nikal rahi hoo as i m fully dependent finacially. so main steps nahi le sakti. so what i want to know ki kya mera divorce hona likha hai kya. jaise kayi ghatnaye hum na soche ya kuch na kare to bhi ho jata hai. usi tarah doivirce bhi use duartion main hona hi hai kyo graha dasha supportive hai is liye ho jayega kya. > i think meri mental situation and real situation aap log samaz rahe honge. aur main kya jana chati hoon woh bhi aap sab samaz rahe honge. abt my husbands contact with that lady it is confirmed that he is still having physical relations with that lady and they are committed to each other. and he is take all responsibilities of that lady just like husband. > they had done abortion 4 yrs back before our marriage. due to family matters and problems that girl was not accepted by my in laws. > but now they are still having relations. he is living here but he is investing his mony and time with that girl only. so > i dont think i will get back him . so i m worried abt my future. but meri himmat nahi kadm uthane ki. aab karan jo bhi ho. isliye mai chati hoo ki ye ghatna ghat jaye aur situation aisi ho ki hamara divorce ho jaye. > aap sab plz samazne ki koshis karen main kya kahana chati hoo. > --- On Tue, 7/4/09, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 12:16 AM > Honey ji, > if we analyse the chart of your husband we find: > his maraigw ith you is by choice and in his 7th there is jupiter 7th as lord of 5th in retrograde state. > An agressive approach and with sun in lagna in own sign and mars along with mercury. > lagna raising in venus nakshtra and with venus posited in 12th he has his own ways of finding pleasure and has no holds for him. > Lord of 7th is aspecting saturn in dhana sthana in an airy sign.For him money is not an issue and can get along with any body easily. > His moon in dhanishta in 6th and venus in 7th too indicates that his spouse will be for sake of havin pleasent time. > About his having child,I have my own doubts as his 5th is aspected by saturn and dispositor jupiter in 7th. > Iam not sure whether you have verifed his contacts and proximity to other woman and he certainly belongs to a different class and community. > Now about your taking divorce,I do not think he will have any objection.and by all means by the end of sept 2009,you can get divorce. > It is doubtful he goes in for another marriage.and even he is not having any contentment in his own house > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 1:08 PM > > for replying me soon. > more that i want to tell > my husbands details are > 31/8/1974 > time - 6.35 am > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > he is already having his relations with other lady since last 7 yrs. had abortion done. cares nothing abt me . he even doent expect me to do . not even talks with me ask nothing. no outing. he never comes with me out at my parents place or any other place. he never talked with be even not at the time of marriage or before marriage. > i think he was forced to do so. > please study our kundali and suggest > for reference my details are > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- 6/4 > > Monday, 6 April, 2009, 6:37 PM > > Malhotra, > I remember ur post and good u said that data was wrong, but hope this is the right one also. > the period between 14/4/09 to 13/4/09 is the earliest u can think of seperation in this 9/3 to 11/5/10 is best suited for it, so till then be patient and try to win him back-give him a chance as u have for the past 3 yrs,,,! > prayers to any form of shikthi will pave the right direction for u, > Best wishes > Prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, April 6, 2009 5:00:06 PM > want to take divorce when i will get > respected gurujis > i m sunita > my birth details are as follows > birth date - 10/9/80 > time 10 pm > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > lat 20 55 0 N > lon 75 19 60 E > actually i m fed up with my husband. he is not good to me. > he is having affair with another lady. may be having children out side... living out side. No physical relations with me since marrige. we are just living at one place without any relationship. now i want tio leave hm because after 3 yrs also there is no change in his behavior. > plz help me. > last time i furnished wrong details. actually these are the correct one that i got from my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Dear friend, The prasna chart shows 6th lord of rasi chart and 10th lord of navamsa chart responsible for giving separation is Saturn retrograde in lagna. Whenever we find retrograde planet, signifying the event, then the perspective is something strange/ beyond expectation. Please observe austerity and honesty and do Ekadasi Vrat as Mars is in 8th in Marana Karaka Sthana as well as Saturn in lagna leo. (2.20 pm april 16, 2009 delhi- are the prasna location and timing) A good proportion of your problems will be over. By the way divorce process is not going to be finalised so easily and so soon as expected. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy , Honey malhotra <lotus7755 wrote: > > every thing is ok > > some suggested me to just wait and watch. > about trying actually im doing that only. from last 3 years. > but if that guy my husband is already eengaged in anoher lady and living with that lady like husband and wife then what. who to use bhi dukhi hi kar raha hai for his parents he married me. and because he loves that girl he is not leaving her. but still us lady ne to use permission nahi di hogi shaadi ke liye. jab woh dono sath main 7 years se raha rahe hai. to usne use bhi dhoka hi diya hoga. meri tarah woh bhi taklif main ghool rahi hogi bas situation se compromise kar baithi hai. > > aab aise hsband se kya expect karoon. > usne society aur parents ke liye sab ke samne mujhse shaadi ki. par uske bina raha nahi sakta. woh mujhe dekhta tak nahi. say shaadi ke baad hum honey moon ko bhi gaya to woh alag hi raha. aaj tak maine use usse baat karni ki koshish ki par usne kabhi response nahin diya. bas ghar main machine ki tarah rahta hai. ghar aana hai isliya aata hai. subah 8 se raat 11 baje the office main ya bahar rahata hai. baas. > > aab main kya karoon. > hum dono ladkiyo ke sath usne apni manmaani ki hai. > > ghar wale us widow ko bahoo nahi banan chate the. woh ghar alon ko chod nahi sakta that ya ghar main mere sasoor ji ne use majboor kiya hoga. he is that kind of person. aur baki sab ne bhi us par presusre laya hoga. ek baar gusse main ghar main apne ghar waloon ko usne bola bhi tha. > > maine andar se ye baat sun li tin meri saas ne jhat baat sambhal li aur topic change kar liya. > > > --- On Sun, 12/4/09, Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67 wrote: > > > Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67 > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 > > Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 8:14 PM > > Prashantji, > Please find my answers below > > --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries 12/4 > > Sunday, April 12, 2009, 5:26 AM > > Saritha, > > a good post, and in the right direction INVARIABLY WE FIND GILRS OF TODAY ATTRACTED TO SUCH CHARACTERLESS PPL and defy their family, parents who have shown far greater love, concern than this mirage and still the girls get sucked into it and many dont come out like u did most come out burnt in such fire with a LOT OS SCARS both physical, mental, emotional and many blame everyone else than themselves. esp God some do suffer from guily and remain recluse. > > >>I think here the subject is to help Malhotraji .I think you and me > should support her emotionally instead of taking the topic somewhere > else.Astrolgers are known to be like doctors healing wounds of ppl > > ur approach is the one we also suggest I myself have brought a few ppl to shape counselling or being with them in such times it is hard, thankless job most ppl stop at advices I have done beyond that and stood by them till them come out in a shape close to what u suggest and these battered women instead of being greatful have become more ruthless, uncomprosing and what else is there to loose kind and literally take revenge on society around them another bad side-extreme > > as care givers to the family thus society they deserve our support, understanding not all come to terms in a peaceful way though we try our best to do it that way > > seperation is the last option when the future of the children if any is involved at physical risk else it is a crime to deny the children the option of knowing their parent/s who spperated were actually was guilty this when they see it from their own eyes and ask their parent/s to move away helps the child come up emotionalluy, academically, professionally strong else all broken families children breed only break ups in every from of life around them > > >>Not true in all cases.I have seen kids whose parents are divorced and they are doing well emotionally, academically and professionally > > They are doing much better than those lazy and irresponsible kids whose parents provide them with everything > > so people must take care of their responsiblites, risks and take a plunge forward else live by the time tested guidlines by pursuing arranged marriages the families beind them at least add to pressure to repair a troubled one, marriages are about adjustments only. there will be mistakes from both sides it is how they reconginse, identify, isolate it and solve it matters. > > if there is a family structure behind [arranged marriages] some one other guide u as a element of openness to listen is there > > in a marriage that has come up on defying everyone it is on a weaker footing so a draw back > > finally in any case ppl must recognise problems and seek solutions amicably, than go to extremses, like drugs, alchol, sucides... > > prashant > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sarita Sharma <sharmasarita67@ > > > > > Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:43:52 AM > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries > > Hi, > > I am not an astrologer.. But I have gone through similar pain as you are going through right now.He promised he would marry me and fight with the whole world for me.My heart said " This is the right person for me!!! " .I fought with my parents,brothers and sisters for him.All memebers in my family told he is not good.I accepted him inspite of knowing that he goes to strip clubs,drinks, has bad friends,no job,etc.It's true " Love is Blind " . > > But when time came to prove his words,he decided to marry the girl his parents chose for him.When I confronted him regarding this matter,he abused me verbally and physically.He hit me a lot and used bad words for me.I was tormented mentally with his actions.One fine day he went away to his parents for marriage to another girl.Not only all this but he also spead rumors that I was characterless among his friends and that anyone could sleep with me and do anything with me. > > But there's a saying " behind every cloud there is a silver lining " ,I got job in a very good company just one week after he left.I was under the wrong impression that my life would become hell if he left me,nobody would respect me in society,everybody would talk about me,etc.But after he left me everything was quite opposite.Friends and family supported me.Neighbours started coming to my house and offered me a lot of help.I realised I was so happy without him. > > Later I came to know the girl to whom he was about to get married broke the marriage because he was jobless.He tried to contact me,but I never turned back and looked at him. > > As a woman and as your sister,I have one thing to tell you...It's time to take your stand!!! > > Try to get a job as teacher in some school..Three years is a long time to wait for someone. > > Don't let your life stand still.Keep moving forward!!! > > Don't let any " dork " take control of your life..Life is very short...Live life to the fullest... > > In short give him final " Ultimatum " if he doesnt listen then kick his ass and move on > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Raja <desi.raja > wrote: > > Raja <desi.raja > > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- plz some more queries > > > > Thursday, April 9, 2009, 12:31 AM > > Hello Smt. Malhotra ji, > > You must have heard the phrase - " Nari tu Narayani " means nari is a form of narayani. Nari (Female) is able to do anything of might, reverse the unhappy marriage and make it happy one is small thing. I will strongly advise you should do that rather than relying on any advise on cyber forum to break up your marriage. > > Do you know for sure what will be your future after the divorce? No jyotish can predict that for sure. will you be able to remarry someone who can provide you every happyness in the world? I strongly doubt it. Divorce in our SAMAJ is a stigma especially for females and they end up suffering more in post-divorce. If you yourself will give up then no one will help you. Do not expect any miracle from your relatives or friends, they are ready to see you divorced so they can talk about you. Only you will suffer therefor i will say that You must take charge of situation and improve things. > > As an elder brother, I would strongly advise against this divorce. Yeh khayal hi dimag se nikal de aap. You should clean your mind of any doubts, sit down with your husband, communicate with each other, take a week vacation with him, do things that he likes, cook food he loves, help your in-laws, invite them to your house often, patch up with him to the best, create circumstances such that he has to feel good about you and he'll be back to you, create an environment of trust and love, talk to him about starting family - having kids etc and everything will work out for good. > > There are no established formula for divorce, no predictions are sure prediction. Marital ups-downs were there even for Mahadev and Narayana, we are mere humans. As a woman, you should be able to control circumstances and your husband too. I am trusting you to convert this situation and reverse whole thing in your happy marital favor. Please rethink whole thing. > > Pray to Ma Durga and your marriage will be a success, one day you will thank me. > > May Ma Durga bless you. > > -Raja > > , Honey malhotra <lotus7755@ ....> wrote: > > > thanks vatteji , prashant ji , harry nathani ji, > > > thank u for spending valuable time for me. but some final queries plz help me. > > > kya mera divorce destined hai. yani hone he wala hai. yani ho jayega. kyoki mere parents are not supporting neither my in laws are not taking interst in our matter. aab mai to sirf ek ek din nikal rahi hoo as i m fully dependent finacially. so main steps nahi le sakti. so what i want to know ki kya mera divorce hona likha hai kya. jaise kayi ghatnaye hum na soche ya kuch na kare to bhi ho jata hai. usi tarah doivirce bhi use duartion main hona hi hai kyo graha dasha supportive hai is liye ho jayega kya. > > > i think meri mental situation and real situation aap log samaz rahe honge. aur main kya jana chati hoon woh bhi aap sab samaz rahe honge. abt my husbands contact with that lady it is confirmed that he is still having physical relations with that lady and they are committed to each other. and he is take all responsibilities of that lady just like husband. > > > they had done abortion 4 yrs back before our marriage. due to family matters and problems that girl was not accepted by my in laws. > > > but now they are still having relations. he is living here but he is investing his mony and time with that girl only. so > > > i dont think i will get back him . so i m worried abt my future. but meri himmat nahi kadm uthane ki. aab karan jo bhi ho. isliye mai chati hoo ki ye ghatna ghat jaye aur situation aisi ho ki hamara divorce ho jaye. > > > aap sab plz samazne ki koshis karen main kya kahana chati hoo. > > > --- On Tue, 7/4/09, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> > > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > > > > > Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 12:16 AM > > > Honey ji, > > > if we analyse the chart of your husband we find: > > > his maraigw ith you is by choice and in his 7th there is jupiter 7th as lord of 5th in retrograde state. > > > An agressive approach and with sun in lagna in own sign and mars along with mercury. > > > lagna raising in venus nakshtra and with venus posited in 12th he has his own ways of finding pleasure and has no holds for him. > > > Lord of 7th is aspecting saturn in dhana sthana in an airy sign.For him money is not an issue and can get along with any body easily. > > > His moon in dhanishta in 6th and venus in 7th too indicates that his spouse will be for sake of havin pleasent time. > > > About his having child,I have my own doubts as his 5th is aspected by saturn and dispositor jupiter in 7th. > > > Iam not sure whether you have verifed his contacts and proximity to other woman and he certainly belongs to a different class and community. > > > Now about your taking divorce,I do not think he will have any objection.and by all means by the end of sept 2009,you can get divorce. > > > It is doubtful he goes in for another marriage.and even he is not having any contentment in his own house > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- with my husbands details > > > > > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 1:08 PM > > > > > > for replying me soon. > > > more that i want to tell > > > my husbands details are > > > 31/8/1974 > > > time - 6.35 am > > > latitude,longitude - 21 10 n 75 34 > > > he is already having his relations with other lady since last 7 yrs. had abortion done. cares nothing abt me . he even doent expect me to do . not even talks with me ask nothing. no outing. he never comes with me out at my parents place or any other place. he never talked with be even not at the time of marriage or before marriage. > > > i think he was forced to do so. > > > please study our kundali and suggest > > > for reference my details are > > > my birth details are as follows > > > birth date - 10/9/80 > > > time 10 pm > > > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > > > > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > > > lat 20 55 0 N > > > lon 75 19 60 E > > > --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > Re: want to take divorce when i will get- 6/4 > > > > > > Monday, 6 April, 2009, 6:37 PM > > > > > > Malhotra, > > > I remember ur post and good u said that data was wrong, but hope this is the right one also. > > > the period between 14/4/09 to 13/4/09 is the earliest u can think of seperation in this 9/3 to 11/5/10 is best suited for it, so till then be patient and try to win him back-give him a chance as u have for the past 3 yrs,,,! > > > prayers to any form of shikthi will pave the right direction for u, > > > Best wishes > > > Prashant > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Honey malhotra <lotus7755 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > Monday, April 6, 2009 5:00:06 PM > > > want to take divorce when i will get > > > respected gurujis > > > i m sunita > > > my birth details are as follows > > > birth date - 10/9/80 > > > time 10 pm > > > place village near erandol in maharashtra (salva) > > > > > > givin latititude and longitude of erandol > > > lat 20 55 0 N > > > lon 75 19 60 E > > > actually i m fed up with my husband. he is not good to me. > > > he is having affair with another lady. may be having children out side... living out side. No physical relations with me since marrige. we are just living at one place without any relationship. now i want tio leave hm because after 3 yrs also there is no change in his behavior. > > > plz help me. > > > last time i furnished wrong details. actually these are the correct one that i got from my parents. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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