Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar combination. On what basis May we know ? regards, Bhaskar. , " alka " <jakhc4321 wrote: > > Respected members, > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date of > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > Ruby in last finger. > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for me or > should I change them. > > > Thanks & regards, , Shashie Shekhar > <polite_astro@> wrote: > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > Regards > > Shashie Shekhar > > Astro_Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Respected Sir, Pranaam, Thanks for your reply. My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are in silver ring. Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. Thanks and regards. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM Re: Stones Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar combination. On what basis May we know ? regards, Bhaskar. , " alka " <jakhc4321@. ..> wrote: > > Respected members, > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date of > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > Ruby in last finger. > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for me or > should I change them. > > > Thanks & regards, , Shashie Shekhar > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > Regards > > Shashie Shekhar > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Dear Alkaji, You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social customary norms,you may continue as and when you require to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. regards, Bhaskar. , alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your reply. > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are in silver ring. > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > Re: Stones > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > combination. On what basis May we know ? > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> wrote: > > > > Respected members, > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date of > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > Ruby in last finger. > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for me > or > > should I change them. > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > users. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 You should not - My personal Opinion. When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together because of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, in the same way no human body should be subjected to their significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! regards, Bhaskar. , alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > Regards, > > Alka > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > Re: Stones > > Dear Alkaji, > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@ ..> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are > in silver ring. > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > of > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > me > > or > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > users. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dearbhaskerji Namaskar,i find your analytical view very logical and impressed with this,i request u to suggest me also.My birth place is at GHATWA near Sikar in rajsthan on 13.06.01966 at 2.28am(morning).Please guide me following. 1.How is my horoscope. 2.What business i should do. 3.Which stone i should wear 4.which colour i should favour 5.which diety i should worship 6.Which are my dangerous period ahead and what precautions i should take.From whom i should be careful in life. Now i have only desire to do social work,how far i shall be successful Thanks in advance Rajendra kumar gupta Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: You should not - My personal Opinion. When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together because of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, in the same way no human body should be subjected to their significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! regards, Bhaskar. , alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > Regards, > > Alka > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > Re: Stones > > Dear Alkaji, > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@ ..> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are > in silver ring. > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > of > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > me > > or > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > users. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dear Alka ji, There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will control up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God sack as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. Ratnaakar alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: Respected Sir, Pranaam, Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. Regards, Alka Bhaskar Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM Re: Stones Dear Alkaji, You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social customary norms,you may continue as and when you require to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. regards, Bhaskar. , alka chawla wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your reply. > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are in silver ring. > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Bhaskar > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > Re: Stones > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > combination. On what basis May we know ? > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > Respected members, > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date of > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > Ruby in last finger. > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for me > or > > should I change them. > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > wrote: > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > users. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 There is no utmost agni tattwa . I shall prove it, if required that she does not have utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? Why should she never wear diamond ? Now when we vindicate some one elses comments to the contrary, it should always be supported by logical explanation.I await the same. For me, I can give solid logical astrological base for every statement made to the lady. regards, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > Dear Alka ji, > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will control up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God sack as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > Ratnaakar > > > alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > Regards, > > Alka > > > > Bhaskar > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > Re: Stones > > Dear Alkaji, > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are > in silver ring. > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > of > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > me > > or > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > users. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dear Alkaji, I think You have not read my past mails properly. I have already started the Free Astrology course on the undermentioned Forum- / Please visit the List,Go to Flies section and click on " The Astrology Course " Folder. If You are interested in knowing which tattwa (Jal,Prithwi,Vayu,Agni Or Akaash) is predominant in You, then You straightaway go to the Chapter 7 and prepare the Table of Elements as I have given there. Fill in the table with your chart details, and let me have your report, as soon as possible. (The other Chapters You may explore later on).But i wish you to see this and prepare your own report on this aspect. regards, Bhaskar (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna-KP) , alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your prompt reply and valuable suggestions. I agree with your explanations. > > I don't have knowldge of gems/stones. But I have interest in Astrology, that's why I joined this group. > > I am awaiting for the FREE COURSE ON INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > Thanks and regards, > > Alka > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:38:09 PM > Re: Stones > > You should not - My personal Opinion. > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together because > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, in > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@ ..> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@ ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dear Rajendarji. Namaskar to You too Sir. Your kind words are accepted with Thanks. Your enquiry contains lot many queries. It requires premiume time and reading. I shall try to answer a few of those whenevr I can afford time in few days time. Some how I get a feeling that we have already met somewhere, or you and me know each other someway or the other directly or through one. If it is so, then let me know. Your queries are also worded in a professional manner. I mean the sequence and the choice of words. regards, Bhaskar. , Rajendra Gupta <rajghy wrote: > > Dearbhaskerji > Namaskar,i find your analytical view very logical and impressed with this,i request u to suggest me also.My birth place is at GHATWA near Sikar in rajsthan on 13.06.01966 at 2.28am(morning).Please guide me following. > 1.How is my horoscope. > 2.What business i should do. > 3.Which stone i should wear > 4.which colour i should favour > 5.which diety i should worship > 6.Which are my dangerous period ahead and what precautions i should take.From whom i should be careful in life. > Now i have only desire to do social work,how far i shall be successful > > Thanks in advance > Rajendra kumar gupta > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > You should not - My personal Opinion. > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together because > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, in > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@ ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop enemies due to this reason.Ok Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is the key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently for mental peace.Ok Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok Good Wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: There is no utmost agni tattwa . I shall prove it, if required that she does not have utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? Why should she never wear diamond ? Now when we vindicate some one elses comments to the contrary, it should always be supported by logical explanation.I await the same. For me, I can give solid logical astrological base for every statement made to the lady. regards, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar wrote: > > Dear Alka ji, > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will control up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God sack as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > Ratnaakar > > > alka chawla wrote: > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > Regards, > > Alka > > > > Bhaskar > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > Re: Stones > > Dear Alkaji, > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are > in silver ring. > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > of > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > me > > or > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > users. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dear Alka ji, You may learn astrology through net but it will be more better if you purchase a book for learning astrology.There are more then hundred of books are available in the market but i do suggest you a very nice book " JYOTISH SIKHIYE " written by " SH.GAURI SHANKAR KAPOOR " .This is the best book among available in the market and very easy in learning. You live in Delhi can easily purchase at Goel Book Store,Darya Ganj,Delhi. Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Alkaji, I think You have not read my past mails properly. I have already started the Free Astrology course on the undermentioned Forum- / Please visit the List,Go to Flies section and click on " The Astrology Course " Folder. If You are interested in knowing which tattwa (Jal,Prithwi,Vayu,Agni Or Akaash) is predominant in You, then You straightaway go to the Chapter 7 and prepare the Table of Elements as I have given there. Fill in the table with your chart details, and let me have your report, as soon as possible. (The other Chapters You may explore later on).But i wish you to see this and prepare your own report on this aspect. regards, Bhaskar (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna-KP) , alka chawla wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your prompt reply and valuable suggestions. I agree with your explanations. > > I don't have knowldge of gems/stones. But I have interest in Astrology, that's why I joined this group. > > I am awaiting for the FREE COURSE ON INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > Thanks and regards, > > Alka > > > > Bhaskar > > Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:38:09 PM > Re: Stones > > You should not - My personal Opinion. > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together because > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, in > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. If You are going to talk about Nakshatras then let me tell you, You cannot and one should never decide the tattwa or results just because the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon that way, by just watching what planet is in what sign. Thats not astrology if you are looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of 13.20 degrees and one has to check at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. In the lady's chart the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the degree of Nakshatra in which placed). is given as under. Sun would give results of Mercury. Moon of Saturn Mars of jupiter Mercury of Venus Jupiter of Rahu Venus of Moon Saturn of Jupiter Rahu of Mars and Ketu of Ravi. (How and why-I cannot teach ) If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking of ? You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, intelligent and sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of mercury which signifies 2 and 11. In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly so. Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more powerfully. Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her 4,5, and 8th house strong, she is also going to make her husband more stronger in giving bad results. Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not for marriage, so why to make it more stronger ? Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part of the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and Mercury. The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in speaking ? No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And Venus is feminine, Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet and not otherwise. //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok// I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working silently, then by your targetting these, you would not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be a silent worker. You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. One book half read is not going to make one an ........... Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. You have really spent away my Saturday evening. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop enemies due to this reason.Ok > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is the key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently for mental peace.Ok > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > Good Wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > logical explanation.I await the same. > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > base for every statement made to the lady. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will control > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God sack > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Good advise. borne of experience, but we have seen your experience of book learning. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > Dear Alka ji, > You may learn astrology through net but it will be more better if you purchase a book for learning astrology.There are more then hundred of books are available in the market but i do suggest you a very nice book " JYOTISH SIKHIYE " written by " SH.GAURI SHANKAR KAPOOR " .This is the best book among available in the market and very easy in learning. > You live in Delhi can easily purchase at Goel Book Store,Darya Ganj,Delhi. > > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Alkaji, > > I think You have not read my past mails properly. > I have already started the Free Astrology course on > the undermentioned Forum- > / > Please visit the List,Go to Flies section > and click on " The Astrology Course " > Folder. > If You are interested in knowing which tattwa > (Jal,Prithwi,Vayu,Agni Or Akaash) is predominant > in You, then You straightaway go to the > Chapter 7 and prepare the Table of Elements > as I have given there. Fill in the table with your > chart details, and let me have your report, > as soon as possible. (The other Chapters > You may explore later on).But i wish you > to see this and prepare your own report on > this aspect. > > regards, > > Bhaskar > (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna-KP) > > , alka chawla > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your prompt reply and valuable suggestions. I agree > with your explanations. > > > > I don't have knowldge of gems/stones. But I have interest in > Astrology, that's why I joined this group. > > > > I am awaiting for the FREE COURSE ON INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:38:09 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > You should not - My personal Opinion. > > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles > > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together > because > > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, > in > > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and > > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam > > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > Delhi > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > > are > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " alka " > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > date > > > of > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > for > > > me > > > > or > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > Answers > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dear Ratnakarji, Stop picking at my messages. This is not a healthy behaviour in the profession in which You are.The basic requirement is to be a good human being and theres no place for jealousy or competetion or rivalries in ones heart if one has to be a good astrologer. Stop this right here........ Now. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Good advise. borne of experience, but we have seen your > experience of book learning. > > > , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > You may learn astrology through net but it will be more better if > you purchase a book for learning astrology.There are more then > hundred of books are available in the market but i do suggest you a > very nice book " JYOTISH SIKHIYE " written by " SH.GAURI SHANKAR > KAPOOR " .This is the best book among available in the market and very > easy in learning. > > You live in Delhi can easily purchase at Goel Book Store,Darya > Ganj,Delhi. > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > I think You have not read my past mails properly. > > I have already started the Free Astrology course on > > the undermentioned Forum- > > / > > Please visit the List,Go to Flies section > > and click on " The Astrology Course " > > Folder. > > If You are interested in knowing which tattwa > > (Jal,Prithwi,Vayu,Agni Or Akaash) is predominant > > in You, then You straightaway go to the > > Chapter 7 and prepare the Table of Elements > > as I have given there. Fill in the table with your > > chart details, and let me have your report, > > as soon as possible. (The other Chapters > > You may explore later on).But i wish you > > to see this and prepare your own report on > > this aspect. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar > > (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna-KP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt reply and valuable suggestions. I agree > > with your explanations. > > > > > > I don't have knowldge of gems/stones. But I have interest in > > Astrology, that's why I joined this group. > > > > > > I am awaiting for the FREE COURSE ON INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:38:09 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > You should not - My personal Opinion. > > > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or > bangles > > > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > > > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together > > because > > > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > > > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > > > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their > behaviours, > > in > > > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > > > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature > and > > > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both > Neelam > > > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I > should > > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > > Delhi > > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and > ruby) > > > are > > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " alka " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > > date > > > > of > > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > > for > > > > me > > > > > or > > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > > Answers > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it but it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father will be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be change in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, this is quite amazing. Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and aggressive as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid for one system try to check by different systems and check your study as well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " Good wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. If You are going to talk about Nakshatras then let me tell you, You cannot and one should never decide the tattwa or results just because the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon that way, by just watching what planet is in what sign. Thats not astrology if you are looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of 13.20 degrees and one has to check at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. In the lady's chart the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the degree of Nakshatra in which placed). is given as under. Sun would give results of Mercury. Moon of Saturn Mars of jupiter Mercury of Venus Jupiter of Rahu Venus of Moon Saturn of Jupiter Rahu of Mars and Ketu of Ravi. (How and why-I cannot teach ) If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking of ? You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, intelligent and sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of mercury which signifies 2 and 11. In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly so. Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more powerfully. Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her 4,5, and 8th house strong, she is also going to make her husband more stronger in giving bad results. Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not for marriage, so why to make it more stronger ? Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part of the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and Mercury. The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in speaking ? No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And Venus is feminine, Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet and not otherwise. //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok// I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working silently, then by your targetting these, you would not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be a silent worker. You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. One book half read is not going to make one an ........... Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. You have really spent away my Saturday evening. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar wrote: > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop enemies due to this reason.Ok > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is the key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently for mental peace.Ok > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > Good Wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar wrote: > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > logical explanation.I await the same. > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > base for every statement made to the lady. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will control > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God sack > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Namaste Sri Alka I would suggest the following for you: 1. Yellow Sapphire in right hand index finger in gold and Chrysoberyl Cat's Eye in white gold (using Palladium and not nickel) in left hand middle finger. OR Wear a Yellow Chrysoberyl in left hand index finger. 2. Worship Ma Lakshmi by chanting Sri Suktam everyday. 3. Wear a numerical yantra of Moon in silver amulet in the neck in a silver chain. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 31 Mar 2007 02:51:36 -0700, alka chawla <jakhc4321 wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > Pranaam, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear stones any > more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should wear iron ring in my > middle finger of left hand or not. > > Regards, > > Alka > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish%40.co.in> > > > <%40> > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > Re: Stones > > Dear Alkaji, > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@. ..> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) are > in silver ring. > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > of > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > me > > or > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > users. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Dear Bhaskar Ji, To use the word jealousy shows your complete insecurity.Why will i have jealousy to you? I just gave reference her and other members for buying a very nice book about learning Astrology.Plz do not use such words any more like " Stop this right here........ Now. " I am better human being in your comparison.Why will i get picking your messages?There are some other senior Astrologers here,i can improve my knowledge to follow them. Good wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Ratnakarji, Stop picking at my messages. This is not a healthy behaviour in the profession in which You are.The basic requirement is to be a good human being and theres no place for jealousy or competetion or rivalries in ones heart if one has to be a good astrologer. Stop this right here........ Now. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " wrote: > > Good advise. borne of experience, but we have seen your > experience of book learning. > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > You may learn astrology through net but it will be more better if > you purchase a book for learning astrology.There are more then > hundred of books are available in the market but i do suggest you a > very nice book " JYOTISH SIKHIYE " written by " SH.GAURI SHANKAR > KAPOOR " .This is the best book among available in the market and very > easy in learning. > > You live in Delhi can easily purchase at Goel Book Store,Darya > Ganj,Delhi. > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > I think You have not read my past mails properly. > > I have already started the Free Astrology course on > > the undermentioned Forum- > > / > > Please visit the List,Go to Flies section > > and click on " The Astrology Course " > > Folder. > > If You are interested in knowing which tattwa > > (Jal,Prithwi,Vayu,Agni Or Akaash) is predominant > > in You, then You straightaway go to the > > Chapter 7 and prepare the Table of Elements > > as I have given there. Fill in the table with your > > chart details, and let me have your report, > > as soon as possible. (The other Chapters > > You may explore later on).But i wish you > > to see this and prepare your own report on > > this aspect. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar > > (Nakshatra Jyotish Ratna-KP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt reply and valuable suggestions. I agree > > with your explanations. > > > > > > I don't have knowldge of gems/stones. But I have interest in > > Astrology, that's why I joined this group. > > > > > > I am awaiting for the FREE COURSE ON INDIAN ASTROLOGY. > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:38:09 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > You should not - My personal Opinion. > > > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or > bangles > > > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > > > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together > > because > > > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > > > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > > > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their > behaviours, > > in > > > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > > > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature > and > > > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both > Neelam > > > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I > should > > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > > Delhi > > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and > ruby) > > > are > > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " alka " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > > date > > > > of > > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > > for > > > > me > > > > > or > > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > > Answers > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it but it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father will be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be change in one.So If any Planet placed in specific house that will behave like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this house and its bad effects and further we should make it strong wearing diamond, this is quite amazing. Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and aggressive as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid for one system try to check by different systems and check your study as well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " Good wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. If You are going to talk about Nakshatras then let me tell you, You cannot and one should never decide the tattwa or results just because the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon that way, by just watching what planet is in what sign. Thats not astrology if you are looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of 13.20 degrees and one has to check at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. In the lady's chart the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the degree of Nakshatra in which placed). is given as under. Sun would give results of Mercury. Moon of Saturn Mars of jupiter Mercury of Venus Jupiter of Rahu Venus of Moon Saturn of Jupiter Rahu of Mars and Ketu of Ravi. (How and why-I cannot teach ) If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking of ? You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, intelligent and sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of mercury which signifies 2 and 11. In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly so. Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more powerfully. Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her 4,5, and 8th house strong, she is also going to make her husband more stronger in giving bad results. Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not for marriage, so why to make it more stronger ? Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part of the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and Mercury. The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in speaking ? No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And Venus is feminine, Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet and not otherwise. //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok// I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working silently, then by your targetting these, you would not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be a silent worker. You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. One book half read is not going to make one an ........... Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. You have really spent away my Saturday evening. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar wrote: > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop enemies due to this reason.Ok > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is the key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently for mental peace.Ok > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > Good Wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar wrote: > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > logical explanation.I await the same. > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > base for every statement made to the lady. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will control > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God sack > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I am sorry for your views and feel sad that I would not be able to help you in changing the same. You are mistaken first to think that Krishnamorothy is different from traditional. This is what most think. Whereas it is just the Nakshatra part of the Traditional system perfected. Nothing else. I too use all the approaches when I start reading a chart,which should be evident to you uptil now. No bias for any system is going to work, About Venus, what you find amazing is advanced astrology which is predictive and cannot be explained on Forums and to all. One needs to have a certain degree of understanding to consume this knowledge. By the way I try to approach any chart with Traditional, KP, as well as by Sayana system ,if time is there on hand. And I am the only one on all these Forums who advises all to learn all the approaches and let the results come common from all the approaches to make it the right one. Do You know that Planet sitting in 8th house can also give good results, and the planet sitting in the 6th gives very good results with regards to money ? But this is not for those who feel that they know all and everything in astrology. Unless one takes out that feeling from within and looks upon himself as a student always, and also tries to polish his tools and keep them new always by further studies, only such astrologers need explanations. Ego or pride whayever you may call it, I do keep it because that stuff is there to be proud of, with Gods grace and Gurujis . But always stay humble when it comes to further learning. And what is a man without an Ego or a women without some shynes. In Your analysis you have sometimes talked about the general house placement,sometimes about the Chalit, and sometimes about the Nakshatra in which the planet is placed. But not given any coherent relationship between these in your discussions. No facts and no logic. Again I advise , please study further to understand what I have written and meant. I have no time to explain you, cause you have a blocked mind, and not reached the desired levels in your learning for my explanations to be fltered in, or cast pearls before..... You need not reply, and hope you also see what i see today within few years. Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it but it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father will be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be change in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, this is quite amazing. > Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and aggressive as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid for one system try to check by different systems and check your study as well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " > > Good wishes > Ratnaakar > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come > out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. > If You are going to talk about Nakshatras > then let me tell you, > You cannot and one should never > decide the tattwa or results just because > the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening > a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client > that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon > that way, by just watching > what planet is in what sign. > Thats not astrology if you are > looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of > 13.20 degrees and one has to check > at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. > In the lady's chart > the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the > degree of Nakshatra in which placed). > is given as under. > Sun would give results of Mercury. > Moon of Saturn > Mars of jupiter > Mercury of Venus > Jupiter of Rahu > Venus of Moon > Saturn of Jupiter > Rahu of Mars > and Ketu of Ravi. > > (How and why-I cannot teach ) > > If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking of ? > You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . > Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say > if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. > > In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 > and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) > are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the > results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. > I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. > > The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, > intelligent and > sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, > because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of > mercury which signifies 2 and 11. > In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly so. > > Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we > are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more > powerfully. > Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question > of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her 4,5, > and 8th > house strong, she is also going to make > her husband more stronger in giving bad results. > Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not for > marriage, > so why to make it more stronger ? > > Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part of > the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. > > The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and > Mercury. > The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. > Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. > Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign > Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. > Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. > > Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in speaking ? > No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And Venus > is feminine, > Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet > and not otherwise. > > //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on > Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology > needs fact not the logic.Ok// > > I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. > I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working > silently, then by your targetting these, you would > not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be > delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not > does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' > but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be > a silent worker. > > You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not > work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly > and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also > finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. > One book half read is not going to make one an ........... > > Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. > You have really spent away my Saturday evening. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and > Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but > both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni > (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family > basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop > enemies due to this reason.Ok > > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as > it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is the > key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently for > mental peace.Ok > > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the > ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at > this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus > that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > on Groups but they are doing this work > calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > > > Good Wishes > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > > logical explanation.I await the same. > > > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > > base for every statement made to the lady. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no > > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you > > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will > control > > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God > sack > > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > Delhi > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > > are > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > date > > > of > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > for > > > me > > > > or > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > Answers > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 You are looking confused/puzzled.Plz try to give rest to your mind otherwise it can be converted in major problem later on.Your behaviour shows you have Leo ascendant and uneasyness in your faily. Further i am agree with you that planets placed in 8th house give goods results, over all this is the house of death the place of prime truth but we can not say the same for 6th house.Sometimes it can give good results in money matters but sources will not be pure.Your last lines show your perplexity.Plz take care. Good wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: I am sorry for your views and feel sad that I would not be able to help you in changing the same. You are mistaken first to think that Krishnamorothy is different from traditional. This is what most think. Whereas it is just the Nakshatra part of the Traditional system perfected. Nothing else. I too use all the approaches when I start reading a chart,which should be evident to you uptil now. No bias for any system is going to work, About Venus, what you find amazing is advanced astrology which is predictive and cannot be explained on Forums and to all. One needs to have a certain degree of understanding to consume this knowledge. By the way I try to approach any chart with Traditional, KP, as well as by Sayana system ,if time is there on hand. And I am the only one on all these Forums who advises all to learn all the approaches and let the results come common from all the approaches to make it the right one. Do You know that Planet sitting in 8th house can also give good results, and the planet sitting in the 6th gives very good results with regards to money ? But this is not for those who feel that they know all and everything in astrology. Unless one takes out that feeling from within and looks upon himself as a student always, and also tries to polish his tools and keep them new always by further studies, only such astrologers need explanations. Ego or pride whayever you may call it, I do keep it because that stuff is there to be proud of, with Gods grace and Gurujis . But always stay humble when it comes to further learning. And what is a man without an Ego or a women without some shynes. In Your analysis you have sometimes talked about the general house placement,sometimes about the Chalit, and sometimes about the Nakshatra in which the planet is placed. But not given any coherent relationship between these in your discussions. No facts and no logic. Again I advise , please study further to understand what I have written and meant. I have no time to explain you, cause you have a blocked mind, and not reached the desired levels in your learning for my explanations to be fltered in, or cast pearls before..... You need not reply, and hope you also see what i see today within few years. Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar wrote: > > Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it but it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father will be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be change in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, this is quite amazing. > Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and aggressive as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid for one system try to check by different systems and check your study as well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " > > Good wishes > Ratnaakar > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come > out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. > If You are going to talk about Nakshatras > then let me tell you, > You cannot and one should never > decide the tattwa or results just because > the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening > a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client > that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon > that way, by just watching > what planet is in what sign. > Thats not astrology if you are > looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of > 13.20 degrees and one has to check > at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. > In the lady's chart > the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the > degree of Nakshatra in which placed). > is given as under. > Sun would give results of Mercury. > Moon of Saturn > Mars of jupiter > Mercury of Venus > Jupiter of Rahu > Venus of Moon > Saturn of Jupiter > Rahu of Mars > and Ketu of Ravi. > > (How and why-I cannot teach ) > > If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking of ? > You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . > Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say > if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. > > In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 > and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) > are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the > results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. > I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. > > The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, > intelligent and > sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, > because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of > mercury which signifies 2 and 11. > In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly so. > > Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we > are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more > powerfully. > Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question > of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her 4,5, > and 8th > house strong, she is also going to make > her husband more stronger in giving bad results. > Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not for > marriage, > so why to make it more stronger ? > > Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part of > the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. > > The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and > Mercury. > The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. > Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. > Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign > Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. > Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. > > Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in speaking ? > No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And Venus > is feminine, > Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet > and not otherwise. > > //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on > Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology > needs fact not the logic.Ok// > > I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. > I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working > silently, then by your targetting these, you would > not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be > delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not > does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' > but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be > a silent worker. > > You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not > work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly > and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also > finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. > One book half read is not going to make one an ........... > > Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. > You have really spent away my Saturday evening. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and > Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but > both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni > (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family > basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop > enemies due to this reason.Ok > > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as > it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is the > key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently for > mental peace.Ok > > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the > ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at > this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus > that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > on Groups but they are doing this work > calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > > > Good Wishes > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > > logical explanation.I await the same. > > > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > > base for every statement made to the lady. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is no > > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for you > > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will > control > > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God > sack > > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for you. > > > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > Delhi > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > > are > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > date > > > of > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > for > > > me > > > > or > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > Answers > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Dear Ratnakar, I should be more patient with you on retrospection. And do not like certain statements I made for you. Just forget whatever you never liked. But remember what was said astrologically. I will explain in short and you may pick up the clues from here. You mentioned something like Mars or some other planet in nakshatra of another and will give effects of Agnittatva etc.etc. That same principle please expand and keep on expanding till you reach the Nakshatras second division.Also please note that any Planet can act in two ways. I will give a example Suppose a Planet X is sitting in 8th house. Then it will not give effects of 8th house entirely. 8th house effects would only come as the source. But what would be the results ? The results would be of the Nakshatra dispositor, where it is sitting and has Lordship over which houses. Suppose the Nakshatra dispositor is sitting in 11th and has Lordship over 2nd house and 5th house. Then the resluts coming from the Planet X would be that the native would get either love marriage or Tremendous profits from speculation in Shares and the likes. (Answer would depend on what the Querist is asking You). The planet in 6th is capable of giving good loans and also very good money from business deals (12th to 7th and 7th is a business customer or one with whom one deals or makes a transaction)) suppose any planet is in Nakshatra of this Planet sitting in the 6th, then whenever the dasha of this planet comes, the native is capable of getting very good money from his business, or a good job/service too. Thus a Planet though in 6th 8th or 12th is yet capable to give good results if the Nakshatra dispositor is placed in good houses and has lordships over benefic houses. In the same vein and principle , if any Planet is sitting in a good house or has lordships obver benefic houses, but if the Nakshatra dispositor is Lord of Malefic houses and placed too in a malefic house, then the results accrued would be very bad for the native. Keep the above principles in mind and continue studying. You can be a good astrologer in time to come if you are in continous studying, and reviewing of what has been predicted and making notes, on a regular basis. Wish You best of luck and good studies and bright future. Bhaskar. (NB The above mail had already been written before you posted the undermentioned mail)I am never perplexed when i talk on astrology. because I always think before writing as a third person, whether what I am writing can be open to or torn to shreds or not, so I always think when I write on astrology. But never think on other matters, for which i regret later on. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > You are looking confused/puzzled.Plz try to give rest to your mind otherwise it can be converted in major problem later on.Your behaviour shows you have Leo ascendant and uneasyness in your faily. > Further i am agree with you that planets placed in 8th house give goods results, over all this is the house of death the place of prime truth but we can not say the same for 6th house.Sometimes it can give good results in money matters but sources will not be pure.Your last lines show your perplexity.Plz take care. > > Good wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > I am sorry for your views and feel sad that I would > not be able to help you in changing the same. You > are mistaken first to think that Krishnamorothy is > different from traditional. This is what most > think. Whereas it is just the Nakshatra part > of the Traditional system perfected. Nothing > else. I too use all the approaches when I start > reading a chart,which should be evident to you uptil > now. No bias for any system is going to work, > About Venus, what you find amazing > is advanced astrology which is predictive > and cannot be explained on Forums and to all. > One needs to have a certain degree of understanding > to consume this knowledge. By the way I try to > approach any chart with Traditional, KP, as well > as by Sayana system ,if time is there on hand. > And I am the only one on all these Forums who advises all > to learn all the approaches and let the results come > common from all the approaches to make it the right one. > Do You know that Planet sitting in 8th house can also > give good results, and the planet sitting > in the 6th gives very good results with > regards to money ? But this is not for those who > feel that they know all and everything in astrology. > Unless one takes out that feeling from within and > looks upon himself as a student always, and also tries to > polish his tools and keep them new always by further > studies, only such astrologers need explanations. > Ego or pride whayever you may call it, I do keep > it because that stuff is there to be proud of, with Gods > grace and Gurujis . But always stay humble when it comes > to further learning. And what is a man without an Ego or > a women without some shynes. > > In Your analysis you have sometimes talked about the > general house placement,sometimes about the Chalit, > and sometimes about the Nakshatra in which the planet > is placed. But not given any coherent relationship between > these in your discussions. No facts and no logic. > > Again I advise , please study further to understand what > I have written and meant. I have no time to explain you, > cause you have a blocked mind, and not reached the desired > levels in your learning for my explanations to be fltered > in, or cast pearls before..... > > You need not reply, > and hope you also see what i see today > within few years. > > Bhaskar. > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it but > it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao > Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each > case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify > one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he > is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father will > be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be change > in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave > like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is > placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this > house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, > this is quite amazing. > > Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I > am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and aggressive > as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid for > one system try to check by different systems and check your study as > well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over > confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to > see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " > > > > > > Good wishes > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come > > out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. > > If You are going to talk about Nakshatras > > then let me tell you, > > You cannot and one should never > > decide the tattwa or results just because > > the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening > > a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client > > that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon > > that way, by just watching > > what planet is in what sign. > > Thats not astrology if you are > > looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of > > 13.20 degrees and one has to check > > at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. > > In the lady's chart > > the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the > > degree of Nakshatra in which placed). > > is given as under. > > Sun would give results of Mercury. > > Moon of Saturn > > Mars of jupiter > > Mercury of Venus > > Jupiter of Rahu > > Venus of Moon > > Saturn of Jupiter > > Rahu of Mars > > and Ketu of Ravi. > > > > (How and why-I cannot teach ) > > > > If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking > of ? > > You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . > > Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say > > if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. > > > > In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 > > and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) > > are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the > > results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. > > I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. > > > > The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, > > intelligent and > > sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, > > because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of > > mercury which signifies 2 and 11. > > In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly > so. > > > > Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we > > are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more > > powerfully. > > Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question > > of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her > 4,5, > > and 8th > > house strong, she is also going to make > > her husband more stronger in giving bad results. > > Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not > for > > marriage, > > so why to make it more stronger ? > > > > Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part > of > > the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. > > > > The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and > > Mercury. > > The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. > > Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. > > Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign > > Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. > > Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. > > > > Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in > speaking ? > > No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And > Venus > > is feminine, > > Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet > > and not otherwise. > > > > //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on > > Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology > > needs fact not the logic.Ok// > > > > I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. > > I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working > > silently, then by your targetting these, you would > > not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be > > delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not > > does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' > > but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be > > a silent worker. > > > > You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not > > work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly > > and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also > > finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. > > One book half read is not going to make one an ........... > > > > Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. > > You have really spent away my Saturday evening. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > wrote: > > > > > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and > > Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but > > both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni > > (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family > > basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop > > enemies due to this reason.Ok > > > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as > > it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is > the > > key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently > for > > mental peace.Ok > > > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the > > ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at > > this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus > > that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > > > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > > on Groups but they are doing this work > > calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > > > > > Good Wishes > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > > > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > > > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > > > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > > > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > > > > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > > > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > > > logical explanation.I await the same. > > > > > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > > > base for every statement made to the lady. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is > no > > > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for > you > > > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will > > control > > > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God > > sack > > > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for > you. > > > > > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I > should > > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > > Delhi > > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and > ruby) > > > are > > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > > date > > > > of > > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > > for > > > > me > > > > > or > > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > > Answers > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Dear Mr.Bhaskar, I have explained the same in my first mail sent to you but again try to understand over all results will be of planets mainly because degrees are applied on the planets that are moveble and result is decided by planets basically.Nakshtras in Hindi have " Sthool " nature but a bit helper indeed. Yes,i am agreed planets in 6th are capable to give good loans but remember only loans,it is not sure that native will be able to repay the same in time.Ok Good wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Ratnakar, I should be more patient with you on retrospection. And do not like certain statements I made for you. Just forget whatever you never liked. But remember what was said astrologically. I will explain in short and you may pick up the clues from here. You mentioned something like Mars or some other planet in nakshatra of another and will give effects of Agnittatva etc.etc. That same principle please expand and keep on expanding till you reach the Nakshatras second division.Also please note that any Planet can act in two ways. I will give a example Suppose a Planet X is sitting in 8th house. Then it will not give effects of 8th house entirely. 8th house effects would only come as the source. But what would be the results ? The results would be of the Nakshatra dispositor, where it is sitting and has Lordship over which houses. Suppose the Nakshatra dispositor is sitting in 11th and has Lordship over 2nd house and 5th house. Then the resluts coming from the Planet X would be that the native would get either love marriage or Tremendous profits from speculation in Shares and the likes. (Answer would depend on what the Querist is asking You). The planet in 6th is capable of giving good loans and also very good money from business deals (12th to 7th and 7th is a business customer or one with whom one deals or makes a transaction)) suppose any planet is in Nakshatra of this Planet sitting in the 6th, then whenever the dasha of this planet comes, the native is capable of getting very good money from his business, or a good job/service too. Thus a Planet though in 6th 8th or 12th is yet capable to give good results if the Nakshatra dispositor is placed in good houses and has lordships over benefic houses. In the same vein and principle , if any Planet is sitting in a good house or has lordships obver benefic houses, but if the Nakshatra dispositor is Lord of Malefic houses and placed too in a malefic house, then the results accrued would be very bad for the native. Keep the above principles in mind and continue studying. You can be a good astrologer in time to come if you are in continous studying, and reviewing of what has been predicted and making notes, on a regular basis. Wish You best of luck and good studies and bright future. Bhaskar. (NB The above mail had already been written before you posted the undermentioned mail)I am never perplexed when i talk on astrology. because I always think before writing as a third person, whether what I am writing can be open to or torn to shreds or not, so I always think when I write on astrology. But never think on other matters, for which i regret later on. , Ratnaakar wrote: > > You are looking confused/puzzled.Plz try to give rest to your mind otherwise it can be converted in major problem later on.Your behaviour shows you have Leo ascendant and uneasyness in your faily. > Further i am agree with you that planets placed in 8th house give goods results, over all this is the house of death the place of prime truth but we can not say the same for 6th house.Sometimes it can give good results in money matters but sources will not be pure.Your last lines show your perplexity.Plz take care. > > Good wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar wrote: > I am sorry for your views and feel sad that I would > not be able to help you in changing the same. You > are mistaken first to think that Krishnamorothy is > different from traditional. This is what most > think. Whereas it is just the Nakshatra part > of the Traditional system perfected. Nothing > else. I too use all the approaches when I start > reading a chart,which should be evident to you uptil > now. No bias for any system is going to work, > About Venus, what you find amazing > is advanced astrology which is predictive > and cannot be explained on Forums and to all. > One needs to have a certain degree of understanding > to consume this knowledge. By the way I try to > approach any chart with Traditional, KP, as well > as by Sayana system ,if time is there on hand. > And I am the only one on all these Forums who advises all > to learn all the approaches and let the results come > common from all the approaches to make it the right one. > Do You know that Planet sitting in 8th house can also > give good results, and the planet sitting > in the 6th gives very good results with > regards to money ? But this is not for those who > feel that they know all and everything in astrology. > Unless one takes out that feeling from within and > looks upon himself as a student always, and also tries to > polish his tools and keep them new always by further > studies, only such astrologers need explanations. > Ego or pride whayever you may call it, I do keep > it because that stuff is there to be proud of, with Gods > grace and Gurujis . But always stay humble when it comes > to further learning. And what is a man without an Ego or > a women without some shynes. > > In Your analysis you have sometimes talked about the > general house placement,sometimes about the Chalit, > and sometimes about the Nakshatra in which the planet > is placed. But not given any coherent relationship between > these in your discussions. No facts and no logic. > > Again I advise , please study further to understand what > I have written and meant. I have no time to explain you, > cause you have a blocked mind, and not reached the desired > levels in your learning for my explanations to be fltered > in, or cast pearls before..... > > You need not reply, > and hope you also see what i see today > within few years. > > Bhaskar. > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it but > it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao > Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each > case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify > one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he > is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father will > be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be change > in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave > like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is > placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this > house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, > this is quite amazing. > > Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I > am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and aggressive > as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid for > one system try to check by different systems and check your study as > well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over > confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to > see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " > > > > > > Good wishes > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come > > out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. > > If You are going to talk about Nakshatras > > then let me tell you, > > You cannot and one should never > > decide the tattwa or results just because > > the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening > > a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client > > that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon > > that way, by just watching > > what planet is in what sign. > > Thats not astrology if you are > > looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of > > 13.20 degrees and one has to check > > at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. > > In the lady's chart > > the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the > > degree of Nakshatra in which placed). > > is given as under. > > Sun would give results of Mercury. > > Moon of Saturn > > Mars of jupiter > > Mercury of Venus > > Jupiter of Rahu > > Venus of Moon > > Saturn of Jupiter > > Rahu of Mars > > and Ketu of Ravi. > > > > (How and why-I cannot teach ) > > > > If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking > of ? > > You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . > > Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say > > if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. > > > > In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 > > and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) > > are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the > > results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. > > I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. > > > > The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, > > intelligent and > > sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, > > because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of > > mercury which signifies 2 and 11. > > In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it doubly > so. > > > > Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then we > > are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more > > powerfully. > > Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no question > > of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her > 4,5, > > and 8th > > house strong, she is also going to make > > her husband more stronger in giving bad results. > > Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not > for > > marriage, > > so why to make it more stronger ? > > > > Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a part > of > > the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. > > > > The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars and > > Mercury. > > The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. > > Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. > > Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign > > Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. > > Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. > > > > Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in > speaking ? > > No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And > Venus > > is feminine, > > Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very sweet > > and not otherwise. > > > > //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices on > > Groups but they are doing this work calmly/silently.Astrology > > needs fact not the logic.Ok// > > > > I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. > > I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working > > silently, then by your targetting these, you would > > not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be > > delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not > > does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' > > but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be > > a silent worker. > > > > You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not > > work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly > > and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also > > finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. > > One book half read is not going to make one an ........... > > > > Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. > > You have really spent away my Saturday evening. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > wrote: > > > > > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun and > > Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but > > both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni > > (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family > > basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop > > enemies due to this reason.Ok > > > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful as > > it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is > the > > key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently > for > > mental peace.Ok > > > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with the > > ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed at > > this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such Venus > > that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > > > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > > on Groups but they are doing this work > > calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > > > > > Good Wishes > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > > > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > > > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > > > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > > > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > > > > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > > > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > > > logical explanation.I await the same. > > > > > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > > > base for every statement made to the lady. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is > no > > > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for > you > > > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will > > control > > > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the God > > sack > > > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for > you. > > > > > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I > should > > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > > Delhi > > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and > ruby) > > > are > > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my > > date > > > > of > > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect > > for > > > > me > > > > > or > > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > > Answers > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Sir, A Railway train is moveable but when it stops at Kasmir and a lady gives a birth to a child there, the child would have bee nknown to born in Kasmirs atmosphere. When the sam train comes down to Delhi and another lady gives birth to another Child here, this child would be born in atmosphere of Delhi. So though the movemeing train is same, but different births take place at different stops,though the Railway platform may be sthool.Same with Planets. We are not talking of re-payment when we talk of 6th house. We are talking of good effects of 6th house. Loan taking may be good for a person who wants to get married his daughter and has no money for the marriage expenditure. So goodness again differes relatively, as how one percieves it. When we talk of goodness in astrological parlance and with reference to Finance, any finance recived through whatever means is good for the native. 6th may give finance either through business, Service,Loans or Commissions brokerage etc. 8th through Unearned income which normally comes after some tragedy. When we have 12th house in front of us, then we talk and see about re- payment and more so if the 5th house is involved. When money is received through 6th house by business payment received from material sold to sundry debtors, theres no question of re-payment. regards, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar <namra_nivedan wrote: > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar, > I have explained the same in my first mail sent to you but again try to understand over all results will be of planets mainly because degrees are applied on the planets that are moveble and result is decided by planets basically.Nakshtras in Hindi have " Sthool " nature but a bit helper indeed. > Yes,i am agreed planets in 6th are capable to give good loans but remember only loans,it is not sure that native will be able to repay the same in time.Ok > > Good wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Ratnakar, > > I should be more patient with you on retrospection. > And do not like certain statements I made for you. > Just forget whatever you never liked. But remember > what was said astrologically. > > I will explain in short and you may pick up > the clues from here. > You mentioned something like Mars or some > other planet in nakshatra of another and will > give effects of Agnittatva etc.etc. > That same principle please expand and keep on > expanding till you reach the Nakshatras second > division.Also please note that any Planet can > act in two ways. > I will give a example > Suppose a Planet X is sitting in 8th house. > Then it will not give effects of 8th house entirely. > 8th house effects would only come as the source. > But what would be the results ? The results would be > of the Nakshatra dispositor, where it > is sitting and has Lordship over > which houses. Suppose the Nakshatra > dispositor is sitting in 11th and has > Lordship over 2nd house and 5th house. > Then the resluts coming from the > Planet X would be that the native > would get either love marriage > or Tremendous profits from > speculation in Shares and the likes. > (Answer would depend on what the > Querist is asking You). > > The planet in 6th is capable of giving good > loans and also very good money from business deals > (12th to 7th and 7th is a business customer or > one with whom one deals or makes a transaction)) > suppose any planet is in Nakshatra of this > Planet sitting in the 6th, > then whenever the dasha of this > planet comes, the native is capable > of getting very good money > from his business, or a good job/service too. > > Thus a Planet though in 6th 8th or 12th > is yet capable to give good results if the > Nakshatra dispositor is > placed in good houses and has lordships > over benefic houses. > > In the same vein and principle , if any Planet > is sitting in a good house or has > lordships obver benefic houses, > but if the Nakshatra dispositor is Lord of > Malefic houses and placed too in a malefic house, > then the results accrued would > be very bad for the native. > > Keep the above principles in mind > and continue studying. You can be a good > astrologer in time to come if you > are in continous studying, and reviewing of > what has been predicted and making notes, > on a regular basis. > > Wish You best of luck and good > studies and bright future. > > Bhaskar. > (NB The above mail had already been written before you > posted the undermentioned mail)I am never perplexed > when i talk on astrology. because I always think before > writing as a third person, whether what I am writing > can be open to or torn to shreds or not, so I > always think when I write on astrology. But never think > on other matters, for which i regret later on. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > You are looking confused/puzzled.Plz try to give rest to your mind > otherwise it can be converted in major problem later on.Your > behaviour shows you have Leo ascendant and uneasyness in your faily. > > Further i am agree with you that planets placed in 8th house give > goods results, over all this is the house of death the place of prime > truth but we can not say the same for 6th house.Sometimes it can give > good results in money matters but sources will not be pure.Your last > lines show your perplexity.Plz take care. > > > > Good wishes > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > I am sorry for your views and feel sad that I would > > not be able to help you in changing the same. You > > are mistaken first to think that Krishnamorothy is > > different from traditional. This is what most > > think. Whereas it is just the Nakshatra part > > of the Traditional system perfected. Nothing > > else. I too use all the approaches when I start > > reading a chart,which should be evident to you uptil > > now. No bias for any system is going to work, > > About Venus, what you find amazing > > is advanced astrology which is predictive > > and cannot be explained on Forums and to all. > > One needs to have a certain degree of understanding > > to consume this knowledge. By the way I try to > > approach any chart with Traditional, KP, as well > > as by Sayana system ,if time is there on hand. > > And I am the only one on all these Forums who advises all > > to learn all the approaches and let the results come > > common from all the approaches to make it the right one. > > Do You know that Planet sitting in 8th house can also > > give good results, and the planet sitting > > in the 6th gives very good results with > > regards to money ? But this is not for those who > > feel that they know all and everything in astrology. > > Unless one takes out that feeling from within and > > looks upon himself as a student always, and also tries to > > polish his tools and keep them new always by further > > studies, only such astrologers need explanations. > > Ego or pride whayever you may call it, I do keep > > it because that stuff is there to be proud of, with Gods > > grace and Gurujis . But always stay humble when it comes > > to further learning. And what is a man without an Ego or > > a women without some shynes. > > > > In Your analysis you have sometimes talked about the > > general house placement,sometimes about the Chalit, > > and sometimes about the Nakshatra in which the planet > > is placed. But not given any coherent relationship between > > these in your discussions. No facts and no logic. > > > > Again I advise , please study further to understand what > > I have written and meant. I have no time to explain you, > > cause you have a blocked mind, and not reached the desired > > levels in your learning for my explanations to be fltered > > in, or cast pearls before..... > > > > You need not reply, > > and hope you also see what i see today > > within few years. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > wrote: > > > > > > Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it > but > > it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao > > Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each > > case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify > > one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he > > is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father > will > > be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be > change > > in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave > > like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is > > placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this > > house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, > > this is quite amazing. > > > Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I > > am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and > aggressive > > as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid > for > > one system try to check by different systems and check your study > as > > well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over > > confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to > > see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " > > > > > > > > > > Good wishes > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come > > > out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. > > > If You are going to talk about Nakshatras > > > then let me tell you, > > > You cannot and one should never > > > decide the tattwa or results just because > > > the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening > > > a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client > > > that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon > > > that way, by just watching > > > what planet is in what sign. > > > Thats not astrology if you are > > > looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of > > > 13.20 degrees and one has to check > > > at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. > > > In the lady's chart > > > the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the > > > degree of Nakshatra in which placed). > > > is given as under. > > > Sun would give results of Mercury. > > > Moon of Saturn > > > Mars of jupiter > > > Mercury of Venus > > > Jupiter of Rahu > > > Venus of Moon > > > Saturn of Jupiter > > > Rahu of Mars > > > and Ketu of Ravi. > > > > > > (How and why-I cannot teach ) > > > > > > If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking > > of ? > > > You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . > > > Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say > > > if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. > > > > > > In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 > > > and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) > > > are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the > > > results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. > > > I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. > > > > > > The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, > > > intelligent and > > > sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, > > > because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of > > > mercury which signifies 2 and 11. > > > In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it > doubly > > so. > > > > > > Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then > we > > > are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more > > > powerfully. > > > Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no > question > > > of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her > > 4,5, > > > and 8th > > > house strong, she is also going to make > > > her husband more stronger in giving bad results. > > > Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not > > for > > > marriage, > > > so why to make it more stronger ? > > > > > > Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a > part > > of > > > the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. > > > > > > The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars > and > > > Mercury. > > > The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. > > > Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. > > > Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign > > > Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. > > > Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. > > > > > > Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in > > speaking ? > > > No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And > > Venus > > > is feminine, > > > Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very > sweet > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > on > > > Groups but they are doing this work > calmly/silently.Astrology > > > needs fact not the logic.Ok// > > > > > > I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. > > > I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working > > > silently, then by your targetting these, you would > > > not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be > > > delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not > > > does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' > > > but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be > > > a silent worker. > > > > > > You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not > > > work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly > > > and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also > > > finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. > > > One book half read is not going to make one an ........... > > > > > > Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. > > > You have really spent away my Saturday evening. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun > and > > > Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but > > > both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni > > > (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family > > > basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop > > > enemies due to this reason.Ok > > > > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful > as > > > it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is > > the > > > key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently > > for > > > mental peace.Ok > > > > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with > the > > > ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed > at > > > this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such > Venus > > > that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > > > > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > > > on Groups but they are doing this work > > > calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > > > > > > > Good Wishes > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > > > > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > > > > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > > > > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > > > > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > > > > > > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > > > > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > > > > logical explanation.I await the same. > > > > > > > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > > > > base for every statement made to the lady. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > > > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is > > no > > > > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for > > you > > > > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will > > > control > > > > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the > God > > > sack > > > > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not > wear > > > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I > > should > > > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > > > Delhi > > > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and > > ruby) > > > > are > > > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to > my > > > date > > > > > of > > > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are > perfect > > > for > > > > > me > > > > > > or > > > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > > > Answers > > > > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Dear Bhaskarji, Your quick response has given me happiness in my heart as well as in mind.I also donot know why i feel as u feel for me ,that some where we have met,through someone ,directly or indirectly,or it is our thinking in same line which has made such enviorenment to belive.However we will meet some day sure till we live on earth.Sir whenever u get time u reply my quiries,u r replying so many persons,so many quiries.Sir,my name is rajendra kumar gupta,i am a chartered accountant,based in guwahati,assam,i am also working for an NGO called Manab sewa sangha ,having more then 10000 members and we work for the economic upliftment of downtrodden people,poorest of poor.So i wanted that through ur expert knowlegde of astrology,if i can help these people.Sir i invite u to Guwahati,Assam,if u can spare some time,or if u give ur phone/mobile number we can contact u.My mobile number is 9864061685.Sir,u r replying the answers so nicely,this is also i consider manab sewa,which is moto of our society. Thanks so much,waiting for ur response. Regards Rajendra kumar gupta Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Rajendarji. Namaskar to You too Sir. Your kind words are accepted with Thanks. Your enquiry contains lot many queries. It requires premiume time and reading. I shall try to answer a few of those whenevr I can afford time in few days time. Some how I get a feeling that we have already met somewhere, or you and me know each other someway or the other directly or through one. If it is so, then let me know. Your queries are also worded in a professional manner. I mean the sequence and the choice of words. regards, Bhaskar. , Rajendra Gupta <rajghy wrote: > > Dearbhaskerji > Namaskar,i find your analytical view very logical and impressed with this,i request u to suggest me also.My birth place is at GHATWA near Sikar in rajsthan on 13.06.01966 at 2.28am(morning).Please guide me following. > 1.How is my horoscope. > 2.What business i should do. > 3.Which stone i should wear > 4.which colour i should favour > 5.which diety i should worship > 6.Which are my dangerous period ahead and what precautions i should take.From whom i should be careful in life. > Now i have only desire to do social work,how far i shall be successful > > Thanks in advance > Rajendra kumar gupta > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > You should not - My personal Opinion. > When we gift a loved one any gold item (Ring or necklace or bangles > or whatever)do we also gift Iron alongwith ? This combination is > never good. Sun and Saturn can never be comfortable together because > of their varied nature (Leo and Acquarius Couple never make happy > ones).Wherever they stay together, the owner of that Dharamshala > would have a constant tension to keep watch over their behaviours, in > the same way no human body should be subjected to their > significations together unless that person is of a Royal Nature and > also very Sattwik and Saint like. Only they can absorb both Neelam > and Ruby together. In your sace Ruby and Iron ring together!!! > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > Pranaam, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not wear > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I should > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > Re: Stones > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , alka chawla <jakhc4321@ ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is Delhi > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and ruby) > are > > in silver ring. > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " alka " <jakhc4321@ ..> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to my date > > of > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are perfect for > > me > > > or > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > <polite_astro@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > http://groups. / group/Astro_ Remedies/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > > > > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers > > > users. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Dear Mr.Bhaskar, To take loan for any purpose is a matter of pain for one,purity of purpose is the secondry matter.If we will not check its repayment,how can we say 6th provides good oppotunity of getting money? but i do not want to indulge in such unethical arguements or in questions & answers arised by you self and do not want to ruin my knowledge too discussing with you.Plz learn more first after come on forum.Kindly do not give answer. Good wishes Ratnaakar Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir, A Railway train is moveable but when it stops at Kasmir and a lady gives a birth to a child there, the child would have bee nknown to born in Kasmirs atmosphere. When the sam train comes down to Delhi and another lady gives birth to another Child here, this child would be born in atmosphere of Delhi. So though the movemeing train is same, but different births take place at different stops,though the Railway platform may be sthool.Same with Planets. We are not talking of re-payment when we talk of 6th house. We are talking of good effects of 6th house. Loan taking may be good for a person who wants to get married his daughter and has no money for the marriage expenditure. So goodness again differes relatively, as how one percieves it. When we talk of goodness in astrological parlance and with reference to Finance, any finance recived through whatever means is good for the native. 6th may give finance either through business, Service,Loans or Commissions brokerage etc. 8th through Unearned income which normally comes after some tragedy. When we have 12th house in front of us, then we talk and see about re- payment and more so if the 5th house is involved. When money is received through 6th house by business payment received from material sold to sundry debtors, theres no question of re-payment. regards, Bhaskar. , Ratnaakar wrote: > > Dear Mr.Bhaskar, > I have explained the same in my first mail sent to you but again try to understand over all results will be of planets mainly because degrees are applied on the planets that are moveble and result is decided by planets basically.Nakshtras in Hindi have " Sthool " nature but a bit helper indeed. > Yes,i am agreed planets in 6th are capable to give good loans but remember only loans,it is not sure that native will be able to repay the same in time.Ok > > Good wishes > Ratnaakar > > > Bhaskar wrote: > Dear Ratnakar, > > I should be more patient with you on retrospection. > And do not like certain statements I made for you. > Just forget whatever you never liked. But remember > what was said astrologically. > > I will explain in short and you may pick up > the clues from here. > You mentioned something like Mars or some > other planet in nakshatra of another and will > give effects of Agnittatva etc.etc. > That same principle please expand and keep on > expanding till you reach the Nakshatras second > division.Also please note that any Planet can > act in two ways. > I will give a example > Suppose a Planet X is sitting in 8th house. > Then it will not give effects of 8th house entirely. > 8th house effects would only come as the source. > But what would be the results ? The results would be > of the Nakshatra dispositor, where it > is sitting and has Lordship over > which houses. Suppose the Nakshatra > dispositor is sitting in 11th and has > Lordship over 2nd house and 5th house. > Then the resluts coming from the > Planet X would be that the native > would get either love marriage > or Tremendous profits from > speculation in Shares and the likes. > (Answer would depend on what the > Querist is asking You). > > The planet in 6th is capable of giving good > loans and also very good money from business deals > (12th to 7th and 7th is a business customer or > one with whom one deals or makes a transaction)) > suppose any planet is in Nakshatra of this > Planet sitting in the 6th, > then whenever the dasha of this > planet comes, the native is capable > of getting very good money > from his business, or a good job/service too. > > Thus a Planet though in 6th 8th or 12th > is yet capable to give good results if the > Nakshatra dispositor is > placed in good houses and has lordships > over benefic houses. > > In the same vein and principle , if any Planet > is sitting in a good house or has > lordships obver benefic houses, > but if the Nakshatra dispositor is Lord of > Malefic houses and placed too in a malefic house, > then the results accrued would > be very bad for the native. > > Keep the above principles in mind > and continue studying. You can be a good > astrologer in time to come if you > are in continous studying, and reviewing of > what has been predicted and making notes, > on a regular basis. > > Wish You best of luck and good > studies and bright future. > > Bhaskar. > (NB The above mail had already been written before you > posted the undermentioned mail)I am never perplexed > when i talk on astrology. because I always think before > writing as a third person, whether what I am writing > can be open to or torn to shreds or not, so I > always think when I write on astrology. But never think > on other matters, for which i regret later on. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > wrote: > > > > You are looking confused/puzzled.Plz try to give rest to your mind > otherwise it can be converted in major problem later on.Your > behaviour shows you have Leo ascendant and uneasyness in your faily. > > Further i am agree with you that planets placed in 8th house give > goods results, over all this is the house of death the place of prime > truth but we can not say the same for 6th house.Sometimes it can give > good results in money matters but sources will not be pure.Your last > lines show your perplexity.Plz take care. > > > > Good wishes > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > I am sorry for your views and feel sad that I would > > not be able to help you in changing the same. You > > are mistaken first to think that Krishnamorothy is > > different from traditional. This is what most > > think. Whereas it is just the Nakshatra part > > of the Traditional system perfected. Nothing > > else. I too use all the approaches when I start > > reading a chart,which should be evident to you uptil > > now. No bias for any system is going to work, > > About Venus, what you find amazing > > is advanced astrology which is predictive > > and cannot be explained on Forums and to all. > > One needs to have a certain degree of understanding > > to consume this knowledge. By the way I try to > > approach any chart with Traditional, KP, as well > > as by Sayana system ,if time is there on hand. > > And I am the only one on all these Forums who advises all > > to learn all the approaches and let the results come > > common from all the approaches to make it the right one. > > Do You know that Planet sitting in 8th house can also > > give good results, and the planet sitting > > in the 6th gives very good results with > > regards to money ? But this is not for those who > > feel that they know all and everything in astrology. > > Unless one takes out that feeling from within and > > looks upon himself as a student always, and also tries to > > polish his tools and keep them new always by further > > studies, only such astrologers need explanations. > > Ego or pride whayever you may call it, I do keep > > it because that stuff is there to be proud of, with Gods > > grace and Gurujis . But always stay humble when it comes > > to further learning. And what is a man without an Ego or > > a women without some shynes. > > > > In Your analysis you have sometimes talked about the > > general house placement,sometimes about the Chalit, > > and sometimes about the Nakshatra in which the planet > > is placed. But not given any coherent relationship between > > these in your discussions. No facts and no logic. > > > > Again I advise , please study further to understand what > > I have written and meant. I have no time to explain you, > > cause you have a blocked mind, and not reached the desired > > levels in your learning for my explanations to be fltered > > in, or cast pearls before..... > > > > You need not reply, > > and hope you also see what i see today > > within few years. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > wrote: > > > > > > Useless threading.You applied Krishnamurthi System I respect it > but > > it is not the perfact alone.Renowned astrologer of India Sh.K N Rao > > Ji always advise to use Parashari,Jemini and Krishnamurthi on each > > case and at last result will be same,it is sure.As We can identify > > one by two ways first to say this is the son of such and such or he > > is the father of such fellow but meaning is the same but father > will > > be father and son will be son.Further Genetic signs can not be > change > > in one.So If any Planed placed in specific house that will behave > > like the same house more or less.According to you even Venus is > > placed in 12th melafic house even than it will not generate this > > house and bad effects and we should make it strong wearing diamond, > > this is quite amazing. > > > Who says this native is not smart,calculative and intelligent.I > > am agree but she will be harsh in speaking,dominating and > aggressive > > as well.You can ask her frequently about the same.Do not be rigid > for > > one system try to check by different systems and check your study > as > > well.It is my humble request to you.Do not be cofused and over > > confident because your such line shows your egoism clearly " Hope to > > see you some day as a good contender for discussions. " > > > > > > > > > > Good wishes > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > You are it seems mixing 2-3 systems and its not going to come > > > out a a proper mix let me tell you as a friend. > > > If You are going to talk about Nakshatras > > > then let me tell you, > > > You cannot and one should never > > > decide the tattwa or results just because > > > the Nakshatra is so n so. That is like opening > > > a book of Lind a Goodman and then telling the client > > > that Your Sun will behave in this way and the Moon > > > that way, by just watching > > > what planet is in what sign. > > > Thats not astrology if you are > > > looking for real astrology. A Nakshatra is to the extent of > > > 13.20 degrees and one has to check > > > at which degree the Planet is on the particular Nakshatra. > > > In the lady's chart > > > the Planet would give results of which Planet (considering the > > > degree of Nakshatra in which placed). > > > is given as under. > > > Sun would give results of Mercury. > > > Moon of Saturn > > > Mars of jupiter > > > Mercury of Venus > > > Jupiter of Rahu > > > Venus of Moon > > > Saturn of Jupiter > > > Rahu of Mars > > > and Ketu of Ravi. > > > > > > (How and why-I cannot teach ) > > > > > > If You talk of Chalit, then which House division are you talking > > of ? > > > You cannot mix results of Nakshatra with any house division . > > > Saturn is in 10th Bhava in Chalit and not in 11th as you say > > > if you are going to relate the Nakshatra system to it. > > > > > > In fact Jupiter (Though its 8th Lord0 > > > and Venus (Though it may be enemy as per you) > > > are the only two Planets in her Chart which will give her the > > > results of 2, 11 multiplied by 2 times. > > > I need not tell you the emaning of this combination. > > > > > > The native will on the contrary be very smart, calculated, > > > intelligent and > > > sweet in speaking to her advantage, and not as what You say, > > > because her Lagna Lord Sun is in the Nakshatra division of > > > mercury which signifies 2 and 11. > > > In fact even her Ascendant is in this division and makes it > doubly > > so. > > > > > > Saturn signifies 4,5 and 8th Bhava. So if we strenghthen it then > we > > > are making our enemy more stronger to give these results more > > > powerfully. > > > Saturn is also a Natural enemy to the Lagna Lord Sun, so no > question > > > of wearing Iron ring. If she wears it then apart from making her > > 4,5, > > > and 8th > > > house strong, she is also going to make > > > her husband more stronger in giving bad results. > > > Already this combination is not goof for any mattter in life not > > for > > > marriage, > > > so why to make it more stronger ? > > > > > > Also do not forget the Signs or ignore them. They also form a > part > > of > > > the Nakshatra system and not away from the same. > > > > > > The Sun (lagna Lord) is in Earthy and Dual Sign alongwith Mars > and > > > Mercury. > > > The Moon (mental) Planet is in a Watery and Dual sign. > > > Venus is in Watery and Cardinal sign. > > > Saturn in Earthy and Fixed sign > > > Ketu in Airy and Dual sign. > > > Jupiter and Rahu in Fiery and Dual sign. > > > > > > Then how can we come to conclusion that shw will beharsh in > > speaking ? > > > No way. The second Cusp is in Nakshatra division of Venus. And > > Venus > > > is feminine, > > > Watery and beautiful Planet, which will make her speech very > sweet > > > and not otherwise. > > > > > > //At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > on > > > Groups but they are doing this work > calmly/silently.Astrology > > > needs fact not the logic.Ok// > > > > > > I do not wish to comment much on this, though i would love to. > > > I will just say, that if you feel that some are not working > > > silently, then by your targetting these, you would > > > not reach an elevated position. Goods have to be > > > delivered properly, is the main motto, silently or not > > > does not matter. You write along with your id " Namra nivedan' > > > but do not behave like this. And I have never claimed to be > > > a silent worker. > > > > > > You have reached a certain stage of learning. But this will not > > > work. i request you to get back to the basics and study properly > > > and study well before venturing to strike at others. Also > > > finish reading a book properly and pick up few others too to read. > > > One book half read is not going to make one an ........... > > > > > > Hope to see you some day as a good contender for discussions. > > > You have really spent away my Saturday evening. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If you have seen this chart carefully,you will find that Sun > and > > > Mars both are placed in 2nd house [with a beautiful Raj Yoga],but > > > both are agni tatva again in the Nakshtra of Sun Uttra Falguni > > > (agnitatva) and are placed in 2nd house of talking & family > > > basically.So she will be bit harsh in speaking and will develop > > > enemies due to this reason.Ok > > > > Saturn is placed in 11th in chalit,therefore it is not harmful > as > > > it should be and sitted in the Nakshtra of Mars Mrigshira that is > > the > > > key of Leo ascendant.So it is not harmful and can wear frequently > > for > > > mental peace.Ok > > > > Venus is already strong in 12th house but it has enemity with > the > > > ascendant Lord and it can change native's pious thinking placed > at > > > this melefic place because Ketu is getting the effect of such > Venus > > > that is aspecting Moon this is not beneficial for him.Ok > > > > At last more than 100 highly learned persons are giving advices > > > on Groups but they are doing this work > > > calmly/silently.Astrology needs fact not the logic.Ok > > > > > > > > Good Wishes > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > There is no utmost agni tattwa . I > > > > shall prove it, if required that she does not have > > > > utmost agni tatwa.. Why should she wear a iron ring > > > > alone and how will it be beneficial for her ? > > > > Why should she never wear diamond ? > > > > > > > > Now when we vindicate some one elses comments > > > > to the contrary, it should always be supported by > > > > logical explanation.I await the same. > > > > > > > > For me, I can give solid logical astrological > > > > base for every statement made to the lady. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ratnaakar > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alka ji, > > > > > There is no need to wear any Gemstone at present but there is > > no > > > > harm to wear Iron ring alone.In fact it will be beneficial for > > you > > > > because you have utmost Agni - Tatva in yourself and it will > > > control > > > > up to the some extent but plz never wear Diamond etc for the > God > > > sack > > > > as it was advised by some one earlier.It will not be useful for > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Ratnaakar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > alka chawla wrote: > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I also feel that I should not > wear > > > > stones any more. But one more thing I want to ask whether I > > should > > > > wear iron ring in my middle finger of left hand or not. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Alka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:43:57 PM > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alkaji, > > > > > > > > > > You have got a lucky Horoscope and a very good > > > > > chart. My personal opinion- you need not wear any > > > > > stone, but if you have to,then go for Emerald (Panna) > > > > > in Gold and let the Cats eye remain in silver. > > > > > The diamonds which ladies have to wear out of social > > > > > customary norms,you may continue as and when you require > > > > > to wear, thats also going to be very good for you, > > > > > but I am not suggesting as permanent mandatory > > > > > wearing for the diamond you may keep it on/may not. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , alka chawla > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranaam, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > My date of birth is 23rd September, 1972, place of birth is > > > Delhi > > > > > and time of birth is 4.20 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also note that the two stones I am wearing (cats eye and > > ruby) > > > > are > > > > > in silver ring. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest me which stone I should wear and remove. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:47:00 PM > > > > > > Re: Stones > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Sun sign should be Virgo, but Lord of which house ? > > > > > > Unless we know your time of birth and place of birth its > > > > > > difficult to give a sensible reply.,unless one is buying > > > > > > stuff from a Television Mail-Order advertisement. > > > > > > You are wearing one Hot stone,One cold metal, > > > > > > and one extremely Hot stone (Cats eyw), a peculiar > > > > > > combination. On what basis May we know ? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " alka " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me the stones, I should wear according to > my > > > date > > > > > of > > > > > > > birth i.e. 23rd September, 1972. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wearing three rings in my left hand. > > > > > > > Ruby in last finger. > > > > > > > Cats-Eye & iron ring in middly finger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly advise me whether the above rings/stones are > perfect > > > for > > > > > me > > > > > > or > > > > > > > should I change them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ll HARE RAM ll ll HARE RAM > > > > > > > ll ll HARE RAM ll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aap Sabko " RAM LALA " ke Janam Divas par > > > > > > > > Hardik Bandhai ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === TV dinner still cooling? 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