Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Tanvir ji i read your analysis and about hep B. i am in same position as far as hep b is concern. i am having chronic hep B since 2003 and have been very much in tension for a long time. although it is not in very active position but tests results are deteroiting every six month. i am not taking any treatment at present. can u analysis my horoscope and tell me at what time i will be able to recover by this desease. kindly also suggest me the mantra which can help me: DOB: 04th december 1970 pob: Lalitpur (UP) Time: 00:30 hrs thanks , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex wrote: > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > Tanvir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 dear shri tanvir chowdury, I wish u speedy recovery from Infective jaundice. May god bless u with good health in the coming years. good wishes, k.gopu --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Tanvir Chowdhury <lord_rex wrote: Tanvir Chowdhury <lord_rex QUIZ ANS Friday, April 17, 2009, 3:11 PM I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E) . In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. Tanvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Tanvir, Sorry to hear about your repeated bouts of liver injury. I hope you take a lot of rest and proper treatment particularly since there seem to be some karma related with liver as they say repeating signals indicate. Thanks for sharing this opportunity with all on your forum. Even in Dymock's series, on an average the success rate of picking the right after-the-fact prediction has been like 20-30%. In your case even that clue was missing so no wonder we all bombed ;-) But seriously, take very good care of yourself. Liver is an important organ. Use all modalities of treatment that are available to you, please. Speedy and steady recovery, Rohiniranjan , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex wrote: > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > Tanvir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Dear Tanvir, Your quiz and analysis is intersting. I again visited chart and ephemeris of 27th March. To me it appears that there is absolutely absolutely no chance of your falling ill on that day. The chances of contrdictions are not there as there are many planets in the nakshra of Saturn on that day. Sun, Mer, Ven and mars are in Uttrabhadra and Ketu in Pushya and many planet in Rasi and sub of Saturn. These would give effect to working of Sat on that day. Sat is doing work for you in relation to 1st, 5th and 9th in additions to other things.[Kp linkages] So in fact on 27th March day you must be in good health or slow/steady/sure recovery of Sat effect. This is how I see it. Offcource some 8th, 6th and 12th connectins indicates minor losses and irritants. With Lahiri and Kp there is a slight difference of time. I have Ketu-Ketu running where as you are at the end of Mercury dasa with Lahiri. Some judgement errors could be with regard to your professional matters. 9th and 5th operation could also mean ending/culmination of some erlier assignments.And new assignments, agreements etc are indicated with divine luck favouring you. Now that could be un-important thing, or you may be hiding it due to personal reason or you may not be aware of it but bright indications are there and 27th was important happenings. Leaving behind astrology, I will also wish you a good health and speedy recovery. Inder , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex wrote: > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > Tanvir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Inder Praaji -- Tussi please Vekhkho once more! Tanvir was born in the night of shuklapaksha! What does BPHS say about that? Big opportunity for learning for sa-nous (sanu)! 'DIDI' in Montreal was right! French and Pnjaabie are very similar, almost like sisters! RR , " Inder " <indervohra2001 wrote: > > Dear Tanvir, > Your quiz and analysis is intersting. > I again visited chart and ephemeris of 27th March. > To me it appears that there is absolutely absolutely no chance of your falling ill on that day. > The chances of contrdictions are not there as there are many planets in the nakshra of Saturn on that day. Sun, Mer, Ven and mars are in Uttrabhadra and Ketu in Pushya and many planet in Rasi and sub of Saturn. These would give effect to working of Sat on that day. Sat is doing work for you in relation to 1st, 5th and 9th in additions to other things.[Kp linkages] > So in fact on 27th March day you must be in good health or slow/steady/sure recovery of Sat effect. This is how I see it. Offcource some 8th, 6th and 12th connectins indicates minor losses and irritants. > With Lahiri and Kp there is a slight difference of time. I have Ketu-Ketu running where as you are at the end of Mercury dasa with Lahiri. > Some judgement errors could be with regard to your professional matters. > 9th and 5th operation could also mean ending/culmination of some erlier assignments.And new assignments, agreements etc are indicated with divine luck favouring you. Now that could be un-important thing, or you may be hiding it due to personal reason or you may not be aware of it but bright indications are there and 27th was important happenings. > Leaving behind astrology, I will also wish you a good health and speedy recovery. > Inder > > , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex@> wrote: > > > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > > > Tanvir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Dear Dada RR Ji, Aapni kemon achchen? Comma taley Vous? Bien dada, I commit lot of mistakes in grammer and spellings, that helps bringing French, Punjabi, Bengali ,Punjabi to-gether. And you know me from Astroexpert days that my knowledge of traditional astrlogy is very limited. Tanvir is very fortunate to have born in shuklaPaksha but i am not aware of BPHS sutras about that. What we KPians do is that for the day of event we see the stars and subs of each planet particulary dasa/bhuti/antra lords and of Moon and Sun and transpose on the natal chart. And try to judge what antra/bhukti/dasa lord must be doing when transiting. Simple? Who is Montreal Didi? Mousimi chatterji- our group member here? I have to admit that your command over English is perfect and beautiful. And about mistakes in astro forcasts you know very well that we in India have blind faith in astrology so any system or ayamnsa or method is Ok, we only need predictions. We are running parliamentry general elections these days. One Newspaper repot says that about 600 Crores of Rupees are being spent by candidates in astrological pujas, hawana, mantra, fees etc. That is our faith!! Inder( not that much paji) , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Inder Praaji -- Tussi please Vekhkho once more! > > Tanvir was born in the night of shuklapaksha! > What does BPHS say about that? Big opportunity for learning for > sa-nous (sanu)! > > 'DIDI' in Montreal was right! French and Pnjaabie are very similar, almost like sisters! > > RR > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001@> wrote: > > > > Dear Tanvir, > > Your quiz and analysis is intersting. > > I again visited chart and ephemeris of 27th March. > > To me it appears that there is absolutely absolutely no chance of your falling ill on that day. > > The chances of contrdictions are not there as there are many planets in the nakshra of Saturn on that day. Sun, Mer, Ven and mars are in Uttrabhadra and Ketu in Pushya and many planet in Rasi and sub of Saturn. These would give effect to working of Sat on that day. Sat is doing work for you in relation to 1st, 5th and 9th in additions to other things.[Kp linkages] > > So in fact on 27th March day you must be in good health or slow/steady/sure recovery of Sat effect. This is how I see it. Offcource some 8th, 6th and 12th connectins indicates minor losses and irritants. > > With Lahiri and Kp there is a slight difference of time. I have Ketu-Ketu running where as you are at the end of Mercury dasa with Lahiri. > > Some judgement errors could be with regard to your professional matters. > > 9th and 5th operation could also mean ending/culmination of some erlier assignments.And new assignments, agreements etc are indicated with divine luck favouring you. Now that could be un-important thing, or you may be hiding it due to personal reason or you may not be aware of it but bright indications are there and 27th was important happenings. > > Leaving behind astrology, I will also wish you a good health and speedy recovery. > > Inder > > > > , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex@> wrote: > > > > > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > > > > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > > > > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > > > > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > > > > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > > > > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > > > > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > > > > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > > > > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > > > > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > > > > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > > > > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > > > > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > > > > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > > > > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > > > > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > > > > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > > > > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > > > > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > > > > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Inder ji, I have always appreciated your wonderful postings over the years. Astrology has so many traditions (even within Jyotish) that it is somewhat not worth for most of us regular people who are in love with astrology (all forms) to agonize over what is tradition etc. We have seen enough cyber-blood on the various Mayavini floors of Kalki Awatar (Internet) over this evanescent topic! I was just referring to the hints given in BPHS as to when to use the 120 year dasa and when the 108 year dasas. Nothing earth-shattering :-) KP has been a very intriguing system with some very uncannily accurate predictions that I have observed practitioners making. Raghunath Rao Nemani, for instance is one name that comes to mind and there were several others. The use of Placidian cusps and cusps at the beginning of houses (both western tropical practices) pose a bit of mental resistance for me but that is my individual problem and will not take away admiration for those who can ride that one out :-) Best regards, RR , " Inder " <indervohra2001 wrote: > > Dear Dada RR Ji, > Aapni kemon achchen? Comma taley Vous? > > Bien dada, I commit lot of mistakes in grammer and spellings, that helps bringing French, Punjabi, Bengali ,Punjabi to-gether. > > And you know me from Astroexpert days that my knowledge of traditional astrlogy is very limited. > Tanvir is very fortunate to have born in shuklaPaksha but i am not aware of BPHS sutras about that. > > What we KPians do is that for the day of event we see the stars and subs of each planet particulary dasa/bhuti/antra lords and of Moon and Sun and transpose on the natal chart. And try to judge what antra/bhukti/dasa lord must be doing when transiting. Simple? > > Who is Montreal Didi? Mousimi chatterji- our group member here? > > I have to admit that your command over English is perfect and beautiful. > > And about mistakes in astro forcasts you know very well that we in India have blind faith in astrology so any system or ayamnsa or method is Ok, we only need predictions. > > We are running parliamentry general elections these days. One Newspaper repot says that about 600 Crores of Rupees are being spent by candidates in astrological pujas, hawana, mantra, fees etc. > That is our faith!! > Inder( not that much paji) > , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Inder Praaji -- Tussi please Vekhkho once more! > > > > Tanvir was born in the night of shuklapaksha! > > What does BPHS say about that? Big opportunity for learning for > > sa-nous (sanu)! > > > > 'DIDI' in Montreal was right! French and Pnjaabie are very similar, almost like sisters! > > > > RR > > > > , " Inder " <indervohra2001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tanvir, > > > Your quiz and analysis is intersting. > > > I again visited chart and ephemeris of 27th March. > > > To me it appears that there is absolutely absolutely no chance of your falling ill on that day. > > > The chances of contrdictions are not there as there are many planets in the nakshra of Saturn on that day. Sun, Mer, Ven and mars are in Uttrabhadra and Ketu in Pushya and many planet in Rasi and sub of Saturn. These would give effect to working of Sat on that day. Sat is doing work for you in relation to 1st, 5th and 9th in additions to other things.[Kp linkages] > > > So in fact on 27th March day you must be in good health or slow/steady/sure recovery of Sat effect. This is how I see it. Offcource some 8th, 6th and 12th connectins indicates minor losses and irritants. > > > With Lahiri and Kp there is a slight difference of time. I have Ketu-Ketu running where as you are at the end of Mercury dasa with Lahiri. > > > Some judgement errors could be with regard to your professional matters. > > > 9th and 5th operation could also mean ending/culmination of some erlier assignments.And new assignments, agreements etc are indicated with divine luck favouring you. Now that could be un-important thing, or you may be hiding it due to personal reason or you may not be aware of it but bright indications are there and 27th was important happenings. > > > Leaving behind astrology, I will also wish you a good health and speedy recovery. > > > Inder > > > > > > , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > > > > > > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > > > > > > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > > > > > > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > > > > > > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > > > > > > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > > > > > > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > > > > > > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > > > > > > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > > > > > > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > > > > > > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > > > > > > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > > > > > > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > > > > > > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > > > > > > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > > > > > > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > > > > > > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > > > > > > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > > > > > > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > > > > > > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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