Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Rohini Ji, The fuzzy and probabilistic nature of Jyotish is well known- so I am not sure- what is the debate about. 9pattern of events can be predicted, and filtering and isolation ..is much tougher and at times not possible unless multiple systems are sued in certain cases- not always possible). But within these constraints - some people could be very good. Infact in my days at college there was a guy who used to solve open problesm in mathemtaics( 70 years open involving comeplex geometries..) in a few minutes.. His boss used to ask him to not tow ork.. he is currently in Belur Math...(all this can be verified and validated..).. BTW- he also studies and mastered jyotisha very quickly... ( he used to solve 5 phd probelms while playing harmonium...it was a well known fcat in the campus). There were many others....but... We limit our eveluation based on our expereinces..yes..there are masters...at the same time I agree that a lot of tall claims are also there... In any case it is a matter of perception...if is 6(six), 9( nine) or sigma...or anything else... Take Care Punkajj , " Pom " <pankajdhar wrote: > > Dear Tanvir Ji, > > Sorry to know about it. > > But on the lighetr side- " donot you think it is a dream fulfilled?? " > > May be inadvertently in the past lives...we astrologers..- I am kidding,generally slip away.....includes myself...(but you see atleast this year would be too stressful part is correct , may be we can shift the honor for some other time..but you wil get it..). > > Sorry, I could not do a VA anlysis for the same..but it would have been tough ... in any case- let me or any one..let us..accept it.. > > Actually filtering events might be i) very detailed ii) tough- as each hsoue and plante has multiple significations... > > I have met a a very few BLACK BELTS..who can really isolate events to such accuary.. > > Get well soon. > > Regards, > Punkajj C Dhar > > > > > , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex@> wrote: > > > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would try! > > > > The answer to the quiz is – on the day I found out that I have got water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E). > > > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one), any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well. > > > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lord… it is something very interesting. Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha]. > > > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing – health / disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord [health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD running… and the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver problem in some way. > > > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in Jyotish – and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a native's life. > > > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter. This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD] started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice – once right after starting, and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju. > > > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past. > > > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall in the unlucky 5% of patients! > > > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would develop chronic hep-B [for all life]. > > > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the liver than a `disease'. > > > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06? NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind. But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way to attack my liver. > > > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW / DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening periods till May '09. > > > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time. > > > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued to be better. > > > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality, found that it didn't heal – rather it was chronic and will continue for all my life. > > > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now. Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed. > > > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease, thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to 2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now! So did my trick work? You bet. > > > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and Jup combined periods only… proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju. > > > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess. > > > > Tanvir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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