Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Dear Hari Malla ji, //> If you have any respect for your religion,would you like to celebrate the festivals on wrong dates?// I am still a Hindu and yet to become western missionaries like you and Kaul - so respect and regard spirituality and has respect for religions only upto the point that they can promote spirituality. I am of the opinion that - Festivals are for people and does not consider that people are for the festivals. All celebrations should happen from within - and then the days does not matters. If not the joy is coming from within then all festivals, celebrations and rituals become mere mechanical acts and does not have any value. Ofcourse, only the non-missionaries with has ever tasted even a drop of true spirituality, and can feel the divine within, only can feel this truth and agree with it - other's cannot. //Dharma shastra says, uttarayan is to be celebrated on makar sankranti and poush purnima.// What do you mean by the word 'Dharma Sastra'? If used in the general sense 'Dharma sastra' means 'Religious text'. Which text you are speaking about here? Be specific. Which religious text asks you to celebrate this and that on such days? Personally I got one more problem - I don't have a religion except that of humanity. Don't get confused and think that then why I said earlier that I am a Hindu - every true Hindu has got only one religion, the religion of humanity, and none else. //Would you recommend that the masses go on celebrating poush purnima when the uttrayan has shifted to mangsir purnima, with one full month's difference?// As I mentioned earlier, I may recommend celebrating anything anywhere as long as the joy is coming from within. I am not interested in the festivals as such, but only in the joy and memories it behold. //Does your conscience allow that?// Do you know what that word 'consciousness' means? Jut meditate on that that word and the truth it beholds for some time - the festivals will start happening from within...... True consciousness does not allow or block a thing - it is not a mere policeman, but much beyond and sublime! Consciousness is a presence......a silence.....the feeling of oneness with divine............ (Ya, I know that this line will go above your head and you will not get a feel of it - but let that be.....) //This is the simple question we ask.// If your thinking been simple, there was no need of such questions, since the answer 'all festivals should happen from within' is clear and simply understandable to anyone having a taste of spirituality. It is only because of the fact that - you cannot understand simple truths - we are all forced to explain this much usually. //Please be sincere and reply. Thank you,// Yes, I did. So read sincerely and try to understand sincerely. Hope this helps. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Hari Malla <harimalla wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,Sreenadhji,Gauravji,> If you have any respect for your religion,would you like to celebrate the festivals on wrong dates? Dharma shastra says, uttarayan is to be celebrated on makar sankranti and poush purnima.Due to precession, uttarayan has shifted to mangsir purnima from poush purnima. Would you recommend that the masses go on celebrating poush purnima when the uttrayan has shifted to mangsir purnima, with one full month's difference? Does your conscience allow that? This is the simple question we ask. Please be sincere and reply.Thank you,> sincerely yours,> Hari Malla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Dear Harimallaji, We have been celebrating the Makar Sankranti when the Sun enters the Makar Rashi. Which Dharmashastra are you talking about? Recognised Dharmashastras were written by Manu for Satya yuga, Gautama and Yajnavalkya for the Treta yuga, Sankha and Likhita for the Dwapara yuga and Parashara for the Kaliyuga. Please quote with reference as to where did any of the above writers say in the Dharmashastras that Makar Sankranti should be celebrated when the Sun enters any rashi other than the makar Rashi. Yours sincerely, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: Dear Hari Malla ji, //> If you have any respect for your religion,would you like to celebrate the festivals on wrong dates?// I am still a Hindu and yet to become western missionaries like you and Kaul - so respect and regard spirituality and has respect for religions only upto the point that they can promote spirituality. I am of the opinion that - Festivals are for people and does not consider that people are for the festivals. All celebrations should happen from within - and then the days does not matters. If not the joy is coming from within then all festivals, celebrations and rituals become mere mechanical acts and does not have any value. Ofcourse, only the non-missionaries with has ever tasted even a drop of true spirituality, and can feel the divine within, only can feel this truth and agree with it - other's cannot. //Dharma shastra says, uttarayan is to be celebrated on makar sankranti and poush purnima.// What do you mean by the word 'Dharma Sastra'? If used in the general sense 'Dharma sastra' means 'Religious text'. Which text you are speaking about here? Be specific. Which religious text asks you to celebrate this and that on such days? Personally I got one more problem - I don't have a religion except that of humanity. Don't get confused and think that then why I said earlier that I am a Hindu - every true Hindu has got only one religion, the religion of humanity, and none else. //Would you recommend that the masses go on celebrating poush purnima when the uttrayan has shifted to mangsir purnima, with one full month's difference?// As I mentioned earlier, I may recommend celebrating anything anywhere as long as the joy is coming from within. I am not interested in the festivals as such, but only in the joy and memories it behold. //Does your conscience allow that?// Do you know what that word 'consciousness' means? Jut meditate on that that word and the truth it beholds for some time - the festivals will start happening from within...... True consciousness does not allow or block a thing - it is not a mere policeman, but much beyond and sublime! Consciousness is a presence......a silence.....the feeling of oneness with divine............ (Ya, I know that this line will go above your head and you will not get a feel of it - but let that be.....) //This is the simple question we ask.// If your thinking been simple, there was no need of such questions, since the answer 'all festivals should happen from within' is clear and simply understandable to anyone having a taste of spirituality. It is only because of the fact that - you cannot understand simple truths - we are all forced to explain this much usually. //Please be sincere and reply. Thank you,// Yes, I did. So read sincerely and try to understand sincerely. Hope this helps. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Hari Malla harimalla@ wrote: > > Dear Sunilji,Sreenadhji,Gauravji, > If you have any respect for your religion,would you like to celebrate the festivals on wrong dates? Dharma shastra says, uttarayan is to be celebrated on makar sankranti and poush purnima.Due to precession, uttarayan has shifted to mangsir purnima from poush purnima. Would you recommend that the masses go on celebrating poush purnima when the uttrayan has shifted to mangsir purnima, with one full month's difference? Does your conscience allow that? This is the simple question we ask. Please be sincere and reply.Thank you, > sincerely yours, > Hari Malla --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 //True consciousness does not allow or block a thing - it is not a mere policeman, but much beyond and sublime! Consciousness is a presence......a silence.....the feeling of oneness with divine............ // Thank you Sreenadh ji for the beautiful words. When we go on with unnecessary arguments, such words come like a loving spanking from the divine… The inner consciousness is the real place of worship, for God himself resides there. Love and Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 dear sreenadh ji It was a very nice write up and an apt and proper answer to this ppl who misintreprets hindu spirituality in the sense of some jealous revengeful god of some monotheism who curse and treatens all ,they are a perfect nusisances who leav every place worse than they found it . I can only say --the famous bible saying = Oh my lord ...........they dont know what they are doing --- rgrds sunil nair , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Hari Malla ji,> //> If you have any respect for your religion,would you like to> celebrate the festivals on wrong dates?//> I am still a Hindu and yet to become western missionaries like you and> Kaul - so respect and regard spirituality and has respect for religions> only upto the point that they can promote spirituality. I am of the> opinion that - Festivals are for people and does not consider that> people are for the festivals. All celebrations should happen from> within - and then the days does not matters. If not the joy is> coming from within then all festivals, celebrations and rituals become> mere mechanical acts and does not have any value. Ofcourse, only the> non-missionaries with has ever tasted even a drop of true spirituality,> and can feel the divine within, only can feel this truth and agree with> it - other's cannot.> //Dharma shastra says, uttarayan is to be celebrated on makar sankranti> and poush purnima.//> What do you mean by the word 'Dharma Sastra'? If used in the general> sense 'Dharma sastra' means 'Religious text'. Which text you are> speaking about here? Be specific. Which religious text asks you to> celebrate this and that on such days? Personally I got one more problem> - I don't have a religion except that of humanity. Don't get confused> and think that then why I said earlier that I am a Hindu - every true> Hindu has got only one religion, the religion of humanity, and none> else. > //Would you recommend that the masses go on celebrating poush purnima> when the uttrayan has shifted to mangsir purnima, with one full month's> difference?//> As I mentioned earlier, I may recommend celebrating anything anywhere> as long as the joy is coming from within. I am not interested in the> festivals as such, but only in the joy and memories it behold. > //Does your conscience allow that?//> Do you know what that word 'consciousness' means? Jut meditate on that> that word and the truth it beholds for some time - the festivals will> start happening from within...... True consciousness does not allow or> block a thing - it is not a mere policeman, but much beyond and sublime!> Consciousness is a presence......a silence.....the feeling of oneness> with divine............ (Ya, I know that this line will go above your> head and you will not get a feel of it - but let that be.....)> //This is the simple question we ask.//> If your thinking been simple, there was no need of such questions,> since the answer 'all festivals should happen from within' is clear and> simply understandable to anyone having a taste of spirituality. It is> only because of the fact that - you cannot understand simple truths - we> are all forced to explain this much usually.> //Please be sincere and reply. Thank you,//> Yes, I did. So read sincerely and try to understand sincerely. Hope> this helps.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > > , Hari Malla> harimalla@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilji,Sreenadhji,Gauravji,> > If you have any respect for your religion,would you like to celebrate> the festivals on wrong dates? Dharma shastra says, uttarayan is to be> celebrated on makar sankranti and poush purnima.Due to precession,> uttarayan has shifted to mangsir purnima from poush purnima. Would you> recommend that the masses go on celebrating poush purnima when the> uttrayan has shifted to mangsir purnima, with one full month's> difference? Does your conscience allow that? This is the simple question> we ask. Please be sincere and reply.Thank you,> > sincerely yours,> > Hari Malla> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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