Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Namasthe, Thank you for replying. Now that I understand what you have done, I can only pray to give strength & long life to carry on the work you are doing. Actually, the image you had posted help me to indentify your work. But, I must confess, I did not get much time to go through all the articles (though I want to) for want of time. you will understand, if you notice the time I had posted (2.30 am). I shall, try to understand your work more deeply. with warm regards A.G.Suresh Babu shenoy. , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Namaste > Shenoy Ji, > > There are six types of Koorma Chakras : house, kshetra (area or field), village/town, province, nation, and world. All Koorma Chakra are based on a basic Raashi Chakra with centre of Mesha permanently facing the East. I used this Raashi Chakra which was the basis of not only Koorma Chakra but all medini chakras, and drew bhaavachalita on this fixed raashi chakra according to well known method of BPHS. There is nothing strange in my method, but some astrologers think I am claiming of having discovered something secret, which is not the case. > > Similarly, naming of states using their first letter is according to Sarvatobhadra Chakra, used in MBh by Karna and described in ancient Yaamala Tantras from which Narapatijayacharyaa took it (published by Chowkhamba). > > Read the whole page, which uses Prithvi Chakra base on Meru by a HOD of Jyotisha, and Desha Chakra based on Vidisha in Madhya Pradesh by me : > > http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/World+Economy+%3A+Apr+2009-Mar+2010 > > Brihat Samhita of Varaha Mihira has abundant materials (eg, about presiding deities/planets of provinces) which I have not been able to put into my mundane softwares as yet. After all, I am a human being. > > -VJ > ============ ============ > > > > > ________________________________ > sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag > > Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:28:08 AM > Tks Rohini Ji...ts Plz Mr.JhaTks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee > > > > > > Namasthe, > > Dear Vinay Ji, > > I visited the page you had provided for annual rain forcast. Your theory & analysis actualy sounds interesting. It is resembling the kurma theory /method of classification of area. (or I am I wrong) and the naming of states using their first letter - actually katapayadi system (there are a few conventions) is also intersting, since I have (and my Guru) used this to predict the whereabouts of missing persons in prasna alone. Sun's Nakshtra is also considered to find Yogini position - which as you know is Maha-nakshtra- as you rightly used for mundane astrology. > > But do we have to consider the center point as mt Meru in kenya? Why can't we align the Kurma(if I am correct in assuming) for each country - say to Madhya pradesh / central India, for India and compute from there. will it not be more precise & accurate?. > > Have you considered using the name of the preciding diety of each place - Mangala devi - Manglore ruled by Mars etc?. Unfortunately this is possible only for India. Type of soil - red soil - mars - white soil - Moon etc. Black soil / rectanglar shaped sate / stony - saturn etc instead of depending on names alone?. > > Just a thought - correct me if I wrong. > > with warm regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > Friends , > > > > At present I have two sets of Medini softwares : for whole World and for South > > Asia. Predictions for entire astrological houses can be made, with > > additional notes from Sarvatobhadra about individual places.. And these > > forecasts will be in the form of solar returns and not Gregorian > > calendar. This is Medini Astrology. What Rohini Ji wants is outside the > > scope of any known text of Medini Jyotisha and comes under Jaadoo-tonaa > > perhaps (please do not take it as an offence, I am stating what I feel to be true). > > > > Rohini Ji has visited my website. There, I have given an article with some examples of the technique I use for rain forecasting : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Annual+Rains > > > > Exactly same technique has been used for making economic forecasts for the world (by a Jyotisha HOD in KSD Sanskrit University, usint my software), and economic forecast for India (by me) using another software by me : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+ %3A+Apr+2009- Mar+2010 > > > > Rain forecasts made from these mesha-pravesha national horoscopes were verified by IMD and then by Climate branch of NASA headquarters : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ NASA%27s_ Report%3B_ %26_my_Paper_ accepted_ by_CAOS%2C_ IISc > > > > This NASA scientist and chairman of Royal Meterological Society asked me to convert mt forecasts into a scientific paper, which I did and sent it to IISc, where I was invited to present it before an international conference in july 2007. This paper lies at : > > http://weatherindia .wetpaint. com/page/ A+New+approach+ to+Rain+Forecast ing?t=anon > > > > At the end of this paper, I added (in appendix) one year's forecast, making an annual rain prediction for 2007-8 at 98% (±2%). Check its accuracy or inaccuracy, and compare it with IMD' prediction of 93%. Actual rains for four months Jun-Sep was 104% and less for the whole year (whose data has not been supplied by IMD or IITM yet).. Whose prediction was better, IMD's 93% or my 98%(±2%) ? The fact is I wanted to make a slightly higher figure, but was restrained by publication of IMD's prediction of 93%. Had IMD not published its prediction of 93%, I would have predicted 100% (±2%). > > > > All these webpages can be viewed from my software website. Rohini ji knows my site. He is himselg an astrologer and knows that an astrologer can make predictions from horoscopes of transits into raashis or nakshatras. My paper to IISc clearly states that arranging of data in artificial calendar months is the cause behind failure to discover 61 year rain cycle by previous scientists which I discovered. > > > > But now Rohini wants me to make predictions for Christian calendar dates and for regions which are not listed in my software. I have demonstrated two softwares on my website : one for world, and another for India. There are 12 houses in a horoscope. I or Rohini ji can make predictions for entire region falling within a particular astrologiical house, but now Rohini ji wants town-wise report instead of an astrological house-wise report from me, and that too in artificial format of Christian calendars instead of natural formats of solar transits. Either he has not cared to look at my weather pages cited above, or he wants to evaluate my weather research works on the basis of what I am NOT offering, instead of evaluating my work on the basis of what I offered. > > > > I have softwares which are capable of providing forecasts at 12-hour intervals, for South Asia (divided into 12 houses) and for whole world (again divided into 12 houses). > > > > If I or anyone else can make predictions for Paris or Delhi, then it will be equally easy to make predictions for every agricultural plot of the world, because if a method if good for an artificial man made region, it must be good for any other unnatural plot of land, large or small. I am sure there in no method in astrology which can do such things. I thought my work will be evaluated ASTROLOGICALLY, which means we ought to predict according to divisions of regions into astrological houses and division of time according to solar transits, eg Mesha Samkraanti which gives annual rain forecast or economic forecast. > > > > I believe Rohini has has never read my weather pages, otherwise he would have not asked for the impossible. > > > > Evaluating an astrological house quantitatively for stating predicted rains or predicted economic growth in numerical terms is like asking an astrologer : Do not tell me I will have a GOOD income during current Varsha pravesh, tell me exactly how much money I will earn. > > > > Quatitative predictions contain some ± errors. But astrological prediction is exact in the sense it can never predict a normal rainfall instead of a drought as IMD did in 2002. I have checked 135 years of annual rainfall data of IMD, plus 55 years of economic growth data of Indian govt's Economic Survey, besides a lot of mediaeval and ancient events like wars, plagues, storms, etc, without a singlr case of exception ever found. That is why I am confident about Suryasiddhantic method. But unfortunately, I am always tested non-astrologically. Can Rohini Ji please tell me why he wants to test Paris instead of India for which I already have made a software and of which there is plenty of past data to check the software ? I use Sarvatobhadra Chakra for making predictions for individual places, and they come true if the place names are ancient. For instance, my software indicated bad impact of 2004 Tsunami on Madras but none on Chennai. Astrologers should > > come forward to solve such problems, instead of leg pulling. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > ============ ======== ============ ======== ============ ====== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Suresh Ji, Rohinoranjan ji is a good hearted ( and good brained) person. I have not been able to attract his attention to these facets of mundane astrology. Same is the problem with many others in these forums. many of them lack time, do not click the webpages I link, and therefore do not understand what I say. -VJ ================= =========== ________________________________ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:23:05 PM Tks Rohini Ji...ts Plz Mr.JhaTks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee Namasthe, Thank you for replying. Now that I understand what you have done, I can only pray to give strength & long life to carry on the work you are doing. Actually, the image you had posted help me to indentify your work. But, I must confess, I did not get much time to go through all the articles (though I want to) for want of time. you will understand, if you notice the time I had posted (2.30 am). I shall, try to understand your work more deeply. with warm regards A.G.Suresh Babu shenoy. , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > Namaste > Shenoy Ji, > > There are six types of Koorma Chakras : house, kshetra (area or field), village/town, province, nation, and world. All Koorma Chakra are based on a basic Raashi Chakra with centre of Mesha permanently facing the East. I used this Raashi Chakra which was the basis of not only Koorma Chakra but all medini chakras, and drew bhaavachalita on this fixed raashi chakra according to well known method of BPHS. There is nothing strange in my method, but some astrologers think I am claiming of having discovered something secret, which is not the case. > > Similarly, naming of states using their first letter is according to Sarvatobhadra Chakra, used in MBh by Karna and described in ancient Yaamala Tantras from which Narapatijayacharyaa took it (published by Chowkhamba). > > Read the whole page, which uses Prithvi Chakra base on Meru by a HOD of Jyotisha, and Desha Chakra based on Vidisha in Madhya Pradesh by me : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+ %3A+Apr+2009- Mar+2010 > > Brihat Samhita of Varaha Mihira has abundant materials (eg, about presiding deities/planets of provinces) which I have not been able to put into my mundane softwares as yet. After all, I am a human being. > > -VJ > ============ ============ > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag@ ...> > > Tuesday, May 5, 2009 2:28:08 AM > Tks Rohini Ji...ts Plz Mr.JhaTks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee > > > > > > Namasthe, > > Dear Vinay Ji, > > I visited the page you had provided for annual rain forcast. Your theory & analysis actualy sounds interesting. It is resembling the kurma theory /method of classification of area. (or I am I wrong) and the naming of states using their first letter - actually katapayadi system (there are a few conventions) is also intersting, since I have (and my Guru) used this to predict the whereabouts of missing persons in prasna alone. Sun's Nakshtra is also considered to find Yogini position - which as you know is Maha-nakshtra- as you rightly used for mundane astrology. > > But do we have to consider the center point as mt Meru in kenya? Why can't we align the Kurma(if I am correct in assuming) for each country - say to Madhya pradesh / central India, for India and compute from there. will it not be more precise & accurate?. > > Have you considered using the name of the preciding diety of each place - Mangala devi - Manglore ruled by Mars etc?. Unfortunately this is possible only for India. Type of soil - red soil - mars - white soil - Moon etc. Black soil / rectanglar shaped sate / stony - saturn etc instead of depending on names alone?. > > Just a thought - correct me if I wrong. > > with warm regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > Friends , > > > > At present I have two sets of Medini softwares : for whole World and for South > > Asia. Predictions for entire astrological houses can be made, with > > additional notes from Sarvatobhadra about individual places.. And these > > forecasts will be in the form of solar returns and not Gregorian > > calendar. This is Medini Astrology. What Rohini Ji wants is outside the > > scope of any known text of Medini Jyotisha and comes under Jaadoo-tonaa > > perhaps (please do not take it as an offence, I am stating what I feel to be true). > > > > Rohini Ji has visited my website. There, I have given an article with some examples of the technique I use for rain forecasting : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Annual+Rains > > > > Exactly same technique has been used for making economic forecasts for the world (by a Jyotisha HOD in KSD Sanskrit University, usint my software), and economic forecast for India (by me) using another software by me : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+ %3A+Apr+2009- Mar+2010 > > > > Rain forecasts made from these mesha-pravesha national horoscopes were verified by IMD and then by Climate branch of NASA headquarters : > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ NASA%27s_ Report%3B_ %26_my_Paper_ accepted_ by_CAOS%2C_ IISc > > > > This NASA scientist and chairman of Royal Meterological Society asked me to convert mt forecasts into a scientific paper, which I did and sent it to IISc, where I was invited to present it before an international conference in july 2007. This paper lies at : > > http://weatherindia .wetpaint. com/page/ A+New+approach+ to+Rain+Forecast ing?t=anon > > > > At the end of this paper, I added (in appendix) one year's forecast, making an annual rain prediction for 2007-8 at 98% (±2%). Check its accuracy or inaccuracy, and compare it with IMD' prediction of 93%. Actual rains for four months Jun-Sep was 104% and less for the whole year (whose data has not been supplied by IMD or IITM yet).. Whose prediction was better, IMD's 93% or my 98%(±2%) ? The fact is I wanted to make a slightly higher figure, but was restrained by publication of IMD's prediction of 93%.. Had IMD not published its prediction of 93%, I would have predicted 100% (±2%). > > > > All these webpages can be viewed from my software website. Rohini ji knows my site. He is himselg an astrologer and knows that an astrologer can make predictions from horoscopes of transits into raashis or nakshatras. My paper to IISc clearly states that arranging of data in artificial calendar months is the cause behind failure to discover 61 year rain cycle by previous scientists which I discovered. > > > > But now Rohini wants me to make predictions for Christian calendar dates and for regions which are not listed in my software. I have demonstrated two softwares on my website : one for world, and another for India. There are 12 houses in a horoscope. I or Rohini ji can make predictions for entire region falling within a particular astrologiical house, but now Rohini ji wants town-wise report instead of an astrological house-wise report from me, and that too in artificial format of Christian calendars instead of natural formats of solar transits. Either he has not cared to look at my weather pages cited above, or he wants to evaluate my weather research works on the basis of what I am NOT offering, instead of evaluating my work on the basis of what I offered. > > > > I have softwares which are capable of providing forecasts at 12-hour intervals, for South Asia (divided into 12 houses) and for whole world (again divided into 12 houses). > > > > If I or anyone else can make predictions for Paris or Delhi, then it will be equally easy to make predictions for every agricultural plot of the world, because if a method if good for an artificial man made region, it must be good for any other unnatural plot of land, large or small. I am sure there in no method in astrology which can do such things. I thought my work will be evaluated ASTROLOGICALLY, which means we ought to predict according to divisions of regions into astrological houses and division of time according to solar transits, eg Mesha Samkraanti which gives annual rain forecast or economic forecast. > > > > I believe Rohini has has never read my weather pages, otherwise he would have not asked for the impossible. > > > > Evaluating an astrological house quantitatively for stating predicted rains or predicted economic growth in numerical terms is like asking an astrologer : Do not tell me I will have a GOOD income during current Varsha pravesh, tell me exactly how much money I will earn. > > > > Quatitative predictions contain some ± errors. But astrological prediction is exact in the sense it can never predict a normal rainfall instead of a drought as IMD did in 2002. I have checked 135 years of annual rainfall data of IMD, plus 55 years of economic growth data of Indian govt's Economic Survey, besides a lot of mediaeval and ancient events like wars, plagues, storms, etc, without a singlr case of exception ever found. That is why I am confident about Suryasiddhantic method. But unfortunately, I am always tested non-astrologically. Can Rohini Ji please tell me why he wants to test Paris instead of India for which I already have made a software and of which there is plenty of past data to check the software ? I use Sarvatobhadra Chakra for making predictions for individual places, and they come true if the place names are ancient.. For instance, my software indicated bad impact of 2004 Tsunami on Madras but none on Chennai. Astrologers should > > come forward to solve such problems, instead of leg pulling. > > > > -Vinay Jha > > ============ ======== ============ ======== ============ ====== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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