Guest guest Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Dear friend, Why not simply ask your father and grandfather ? For example in my own care from my childhood, even before my entry in to the Jyotish I know who is my Ishta Devta, Kula Devta Griha Devta/Sthana Devta/ Grama Devta. In some clans or families we find all four merged into one, sometimes two, sometimes three. The need for analysing the horoscope comes only when we or our family has left the tradition or worship, distontinued doing their duties of regular worship. The best way to find out these Devta is collect all the horoscopes of 2 or 3 generations of a family and prepare a tabulation of major afflictions/ dosha etc. in all the charts and arrive at the most frequently occuring combinations- having a strong rulership over the trinal houses. Ishta- means Ideal- we cherish and practise in our life- it thus includes dharma devta also. Kula Devta- who guides us towards fulfilment of our special duties/ profession- protector of our family Griha Devta- protector and giver of all happiness and prosperity Sthana Devta/ Grama devta- is a pre-decided traditionally who protects our villages and communities As far as Moksha/ emancipation is concerned- 4th or 12th lord from Atmakaraka in navamsa and 4th lord from moon, 4th lord from ketu 4th lord from langa ( all in navamsa), whosoever is strongest and placed in a trinal house is most favourable towards our gain of wisdom and freedom from the relative wisdom of this world. In my humble experience , I have seen Ishta Devta (Dharma Devta/Upasana Devta), Kula Devta, Griha/Sthana/Grama Devta- sincere worship of any one of the above- yields successful results in attainment of our objectives. As far as salvation/ freedom from the bondage of cycles of life and death is concerned, all the khara navamsa lords helps us in the purification process though rectifications of our mistakes/ wrongdeeds through sufferings/ trials and tribulations. What the Prasna Marga guides is only- a broad hints. All Devta detremied so must be ruler of trinal houses in majority of divisional charts such as the Rasi/ Navamsa/ Dwadasamsa/Vimsamsa Charts. The final thing to remeber is all Devta determined astrologically must be friend of the lord of lagna or moonsign- whoever is the stronger and the concerned planets must be working for the benefic planets (natrual and funcitonal) in the horoscope on the basis of Karaka Yoga and Argala and Ashtakavarga. Memory; Photographic memory ruled by Moon and 4th lord. Analytical memory ruled by Mercury and 5th Lord and lord of Navamsa Lagna Relationship based memory and retrival of memory - 3rd house/lord/ mercury/ 7th lord of Navams chart. Malefics in trine to any of the abvoe, or papa madhya yoga or any other kind of weakness in natal chart, or as considered from the Mahadasa Lord (Vimshottari) casues long tem impact upon our memory system. Mathematical/ logical/analytical ability- depends upon strength of 2,5,8, 11 houses and their lords. Atmakaraka or Amatyakaraka if maraka or badhaka- lord of khara navamsa or kharatara- if enemy of lagna lord should be avoided at all costs. So to overcome the confusion of all sorts- it is best to stick to family traditions regarding Ishta Devta and all other Devta etc. Palana Devta is Goddess Lakshmi in your case. Mahadasa lord ketu in badhaka house along with moon and 6th lord their from is Jupiter- so milk+ fat/sugar related allergies causing the respiratory problems/ skin problems. Take simply milk without cream and sugar and without mixing any other items such as tea or coffee etc. Take coarsee ground wheat or rice instead of the finer ones. Do not eat/ drink up your anger within yourself. Try to express clearly your dissatisfaction- clearly and politey- though not sharply. If you do practise the habit of writing down your thoughts on a piece of paper before venting your anger out- gradually you will succeed in doing so in a satisfactory and successful way. Trying to absorb angers and frustrations is not good for your helath, if you can not forget them- then it is better to express them in a safe way. Hope your breathing problems get over completely as the 7th lord from Mahadasa lord Ketu in Navamsa is Jupiter- presently weak in transit. It would completely gain strength by January 2010. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) , " wicked_himanshu " <wicked_himanshu wrote: > > Dear All > Om > > Its always good to see the vedic culture rising with the help of groups like this. I, too, slowly, have found interest in this vast field of vedic knowledge. But I am just a beginner. So, please forgive me if I go wrong somewhere. > I have learnt that the best way to try your astrology knowledge is to try it on yourself. So, I have started it that way. > First of all, the details: > > DOB - 09-Nov-1990 > Time - 09:06 AM > Place - Ludhiana, Punjab > > I have a few questions which I think are primitive at this stage. > Firstly, what is the difference between a dharma devta and isht devta? I mean I know that dharma devta helps one in achieving his dreams while isht devta frees the soul from the rush of this world. But, then why are some people told to worship dharma devta and some isht devta? Does this thing depend upon the age of subject. > > Dharma devta is taken from the 6th house of karkamsa and isht devta from 12th house of karkamsa. But what if these house contain marakas or malefic planets? Like in my case, shukra (paalan devta graha) and budh (dharma devta graha) are makaras (vrishchik lagna) and mangal(isht devta graha) is a natural malefic. So how do I go through this? Moreover, according to BPHS, even rashis denote female deities. In my case, the isht devta graha is in vrishchik rashi and hence female deity. So does this mean that I should worship some female deity for mangal and not hanuman or skanda. Who is that deity? > > Or should I pray to Maa Lakshmi, Maa Durga/Vishnu and Narasimha roop of Vishnu/Hanuman/Skanda respectively? But here also, there's a problem. I feel myself strongly attached to Shiva ji and Ganesh ji and not at all to Vishnu ji. Moreover, moon being in bhagya sthan, shiv ji is the doer of all things for me. Isn't it? How do I get out of this confusion? > > Second: I have a combust mercury sitting in my lagna and the lagnesh (mangal) sitting in 7th house from lagna. This should mean great anger and irritable nature, which I have. But then, the state of budh should mean problems related to skin ( i have those), poor argumentative and analytical powers (false), poor mathematician (false) and poor memory (i don't know). So how does astrology define this thing? > > Last: Shani is my atmakaraka. Shukra is the amatyakarka. Moreover, I am into engineering/technical field (shani's brach). So should one always work towards strengthening the AK and AmK graha, even if they are placed in dushthans or enemy houses (though not in my case)? > > Personal problem: I have started having breathing problems for the past 1 month. Doctors diagnose it as psychogenic dyspnea and hence, have put me on anti-anxiety pills. They say that I am taking a lot of stress these days which I feel is not true at all. So what does astrology has to say about it? I still don't know how to prepare a daily or yearly chart. So please guide me through this. > > If you can help me with my questions, it will be really great. I would feel privileged by being a tiny part of this whole ocean of vedic astrology. > > Your eternal well-wisher > Himanshu Bhatia > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Dear Mrutyunjay Tripathy Om Thank you for using your time for writing something for a novice like me. I really appreciate that. Sir, I have a few doubts if you can clear them for me. First: My ancestors are Arya Samaj followers and hence followed no deity. So I would never know my dharam devta. What should one do in that case? Second: I learnt that the number of akshars one should have in his mantra for praying the deity is determined by the bhava number in which ketu is placed in the navamsa chart. Please elaborate on this and tell me the mantra too for Maa Durga and Lakshmi. Third: I get too emotional and attached at times. I feel that it is due to moon. But then I also keep working towards making moon strong. I use silver (rings/drinking glass), love water, use kevada in drinking water and pray to Som roop of shiva. I also sit down under moon light daily. I don't know why I do this even when I know that it is the cause of my over-emotional nature. But then I feel too much attracted to these things and maybe because I know moon is in my bhagyasthan so I always keep on strengthening it. Will my these practices have any dire consequences? If yes, how can I stop it? Fourth: You mentioned khara navamsa or kharatara. Please explain what it is. Fifth: For shani is my atmakaraka and vargottam graha and also the greatest malefic, how do I decide if I have to make him strong? I am into engineering branch. Please help me with this too. You contribution was great. I hope to gain knowledge from you on topics in future too. Your eternal well-wisher Himanshu Bhatia , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote: > > Dear friend, > > > Why not simply ask your father and grandfather ? > > For example in my own care from my childhood, > even before my entry in to the Jyotish I know > who is my > > Ishta Devta, > Kula Devta > Griha Devta/Sthana Devta/ Grama Devta. > > In some clans or families we find all four merged into one, sometimes two, sometimes three. > > The need for analysing the horoscope comes only when we or our family has left the tradition or worship, > distontinued doing their duties of regular worship. > > > The best way to find out these Devta is collect all the horoscopes of 2 or 3 generations of a family and prepare a tabulation of > > major afflictions/ dosha etc. in all the charts and arrive at the > most frequently occuring combinations- having a strong rulership over the trinal houses. > > Ishta- means Ideal- we cherish and practise in our life- it thus includes dharma devta also. > > Kula Devta- who guides us towards fulfilment of our special duties/ profession- protector of our family > > Griha Devta- protector and giver of all happiness and prosperity > > Sthana Devta/ Grama devta- is a pre-decided traditionally who protects our villages and communities > > As far as Moksha/ emancipation is concerned- > 4th or 12th lord from Atmakaraka in navamsa and > 4th lord from moon, > 4th lord from ketu > 4th lord from langa ( all in navamsa), > whosoever is strongest and placed in a trinal house is most > favourable towards our gain of wisdom and freedom from the > relative wisdom of this world. > > In my humble experience , I have seen Ishta Devta (Dharma Devta/Upasana Devta), Kula Devta, Griha/Sthana/Grama Devta- sincere worship of any one of the above- > yields successful results in attainment of our objectives. > > As far as salvation/ freedom from the bondage of cycles of life and death is concerned, all the khara navamsa lords > helps us in the purification process > though rectifications of our mistakes/ wrongdeeds through > sufferings/ trials and tribulations. > > > What the Prasna Marga guides is only- a broad hints. All Devta detremied so must be ruler of trinal houses in majority of divisional charts such as the Rasi/ Navamsa/ Dwadasamsa/Vimsamsa Charts. > > > The final thing to remeber is all Devta determined astrologically must be friend of the lord of lagna or moonsign- whoever is the stronger and the concerned planets must be working for the benefic planets (natrual and funcitonal) in the horoscope on the basis of Karaka Yoga and Argala and Ashtakavarga. > > > Memory; > > Photographic memory ruled by Moon and 4th lord. > > Analytical memory ruled by Mercury and 5th Lord and lord of Navamsa Lagna > > Relationship based memory and retrival of memory - 3rd house/lord/ mercury/ 7th lord of Navams chart. > > > Malefics in trine to any of the abvoe, or papa madhya yoga or any other kind of weakness in natal chart, or as considered from the Mahadasa Lord (Vimshottari) casues long tem impact upon our memory system. > > Mathematical/ logical/analytical ability- depends upon strength of 2,5,8, 11 houses and their lords. > > > > Atmakaraka or Amatyakaraka if maraka or badhaka- lord of khara navamsa or kharatara- if enemy of lagna lord should be avoided at all costs. > > So to overcome the confusion of all sorts- it is best to stick to family traditions regarding Ishta Devta and all other Devta etc. > > Palana Devta is Goddess Lakshmi in your case. > Mahadasa lord ketu in badhaka house along with moon and > 6th lord their from is Jupiter- > > so milk+ fat/sugar related allergies causing the respiratory problems/ skin problems. > > Take simply milk without cream and sugar and without mixing any other items such as tea or coffee etc. > > Take coarsee ground wheat or rice instead of the finer ones. > > Do not eat/ drink up your anger within yourself. > > Try to express clearly your dissatisfaction- clearly and politey- though not sharply. If you do practise the habit of writing down your thoughts on a piece of paper before venting your anger out- gradually you will succeed in doing so in a satisfactory and successful way. > Trying to absorb angers and frustrations is not good for your helath, if you can not forget them- then it is better to express them in a safe way. > > Hope your breathing problems get over completely as the 7th lord from Mahadasa lord Ketu in Navamsa is Jupiter- presently weak in transit. It would completely gain strength by January 2010. > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy > (Consultancy out of group is not free) > > , " wicked_himanshu " <wicked_himanshu@> wrote: > > > > Dear All > > Om > > > > Its always good to see the vedic culture rising with the help of groups like this. I, too, slowly, have found interest in this vast field of vedic knowledge. But I am just a beginner. So, please forgive me if I go wrong somewhere. > > I have learnt that the best way to try your astrology knowledge is to try it on yourself. So, I have started it that way. > > First of all, the details: > > > > DOB - 09-Nov-1990 > > Time - 09:06 AM > > Place - Ludhiana, Punjab > > > > I have a few questions which I think are primitive at this stage. > > Firstly, what is the difference between a dharma devta and isht devta? I mean I know that dharma devta helps one in achieving his dreams while isht devta frees the soul from the rush of this world. But, then why are some people told to worship dharma devta and some isht devta? Does this thing depend upon the age of subject. > > > > Dharma devta is taken from the 6th house of karkamsa and isht devta from 12th house of karkamsa. But what if these house contain marakas or malefic planets? Like in my case, shukra (paalan devta graha) and budh (dharma devta graha) are makaras (vrishchik lagna) and mangal(isht devta graha) is a natural malefic. So how do I go through this? Moreover, according to BPHS, even rashis denote female deities. In my case, the isht devta graha is in vrishchik rashi and hence female deity. So does this mean that I should worship some female deity for mangal and not hanuman or skanda. Who is that deity? > > > > Or should I pray to Maa Lakshmi, Maa Durga/Vishnu and Narasimha roop of Vishnu/Hanuman/Skanda respectively? But here also, there's a problem. I feel myself strongly attached to Shiva ji and Ganesh ji and not at all to Vishnu ji. Moreover, moon being in bhagya sthan, shiv ji is the doer of all things for me. Isn't it? How do I get out of this confusion? > > > > Second: I have a combust mercury sitting in my lagna and the lagnesh (mangal) sitting in 7th house from lagna. This should mean great anger and irritable nature, which I have. But then, the state of budh should mean problems related to skin ( i have those), poor argumentative and analytical powers (false), poor mathematician (false) and poor memory (i don't know). So how does astrology define this thing? > > > > Last: Shani is my atmakaraka. Shukra is the amatyakarka. Moreover, I am into engineering/technical field (shani's brach). So should one always work towards strengthening the AK and AmK graha, even if they are placed in dushthans or enemy houses (though not in my case)? > > > > Personal problem: I have started having breathing problems for the past 1 month. Doctors diagnose it as psychogenic dyspnea and hence, have put me on anti-anxiety pills. They say that I am taking a lot of stress these days which I feel is not true at all. So what does astrology has to say about it? I still don't know how to prepare a daily or yearly chart. So please guide me through this. > > > > If you can help me with my questions, it will be really great. I would feel privileged by being a tiny part of this whole ocean of vedic astrology. > > > > Your eternal well-wisher > > Himanshu Bhatia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dear friend, I am giving my comments just below yours. > First: My ancestors are Arya Samaj followers and hence followed no deity. So I would never know my dharam devta. What should one do in that case? YOU SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR PARENTS IN HINDUISM ALSO PEOPLW WORSHIP LORD RAMA AND LORD KRISHNA AND LORD SHIVA ETC. ETC. AS THE FORM OF NIRGUNA BRAHMA. that the number of akshars one should have in his mantra for praying the deity is determined by the bhava number in which ketu is placed in the navamsa chart. Please elaborate on this and tell me the mantra too for Maa Durga and Lakshmi. NUMBER OF AKSHARA = BHAVA is the personal research based theory of SJC Guru Sanjay Rath Jee, The Ekakshara Mantra and kuta mantra and panchakshara mantra , shadakshara , ashtakshara and navakshari mantra are well known to be bestower of Dharma Artha Kama and Moksha as per Purana as well as Tantra Shastra. So in my humble experience... this akshara = bhava theory is apparently correct in some cases, it is not a standard universal rule. Without sufficient experimentations I can not say anything about it. For example single lettered mantra of Lord Ganapati is used for removal of obstacles(lagna bhava), gains(2nd and 11th bhava), increase in intelligence(trine bhavas). Then another thing....some people include and some exclude counting Om at the beginning as an Akashara. Going back to the Rishi Chanda of Ekakshara Ganapati Mantra- which is OM GAM- we found that the classics- mantra shastra- treat this two letered combination - as Ekakshari mantra Similarly take the case of popularly Navakshari mantra- if we include Om- total number of letters comes to 10- making it a 10 lettered mantra. However, you may find- inclusion of the beginning Om as an Akashara- in the book of Shree Sanjay Rath Jee, Third: I get too emotional and attached at times. I feel that it is due to moon. But then I also keep working towards making moon strong. I use silver (rings/drinking glass), love water, use kevada in drinking water and pray to Som roop of shiva. I also sit down under moon light daily. I don't know why I do this even when I know that it is the cause of my over-emotional nature. But then I feel too much attracted to these things and maybe because I know moon is in my bhagyasthan so I always keep on strengthening it. Will my these practices have any dire consequences? If yes, how can I stop it? NO > Fourth: You mentioned khara navamsa or kharatara. Please explain what it is. The Navamsa or Star at the cusp of the 8th house is called Khara. > Fifth: For shani is my atmakaraka and vargottam graha and also the greatest malefic, how do I decide if I have to make him strong? I am into engineering branch. Please help me with this too. There are two ways of developing. Mangifying our positive qualities. Removing our weaknesses. Whichever way is easier for you, as per your personality and attitude, you should follow- even if a judicious blending of the both. With regards and best wishes, Mrutyunjay Tripathy (Consultancy out of group is not free) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.