church mimickry

[Guest guest]

Dear Suresh babu

 

I have retained just ur last part of the mail and also changed the topic/subject

line

 

DON'T GET CONFUSED BY WHAT U SAW there it is so thruoight the world where

church is spreading.

 

Pope John Paul II had clearly told the church to follow ethnic and tribal

aspects to be used liberaly in the faith propogation

 

and they use VEDA for bible now

 

they had in past ridiculed Suprabhata but now have suprabhata [morning wake up

prayer for the lord a la Sri Venketeswara, raghavandrea, Shiva, Hanuman, Shirdi

sai baba etc.

 

in the ear;y days of Pope Paul II i saw a TV drama of crucification in Chennai

where they had show christ being taken on the cross up hill and not crucified

on the hill but all along the way Nadaswaram, harathi being given to him with

the usual arathi prayers whisch is blasphmaous in real sense as the

crucification, the subsequent resurection can;t be diluted so easily but this is

how it has been shown that Hinduism and the chrch have simiar approaches

deepasthama, arathi, bhakans [mot choirs] deeksha

 

but just check if they will eat the prasadam u give them

if u feel they r similar

 

try asking them for lunch at ur place they will make sure u did not give it as

Naivadyam to our Lord/s and only then will they eat, invariably they r told not

to eat in Hindu houses as theyir food is offered to their gods [inferior ones]

so it is polluted.

the mouse maids most of them have converted in sough India across many states

and they will never eat any food even if u give it straight from the stove.

 

but christians from the past periods r more open and they choose and are liberal

and surely it is no longer the the old order of Kenya, Ethiiopian where the

purer for of church practices still prevail

 

now church needs ppl to man churches across the world with 2% in Europe, 1 % is

USA and may be 3-5 % in Australia, NZ many countires have one prest to man a

feww districts be it baptism or funeral in many cass they have allowed people

who can read the verses in the bible for such jobs to take over the role for the

day, many countires have counties closing down churches and re using the space

for other activities. as a lockd place is used by miscrients, anti-social

elements of any faith,

 

there is only one religion now that is agridisement, materialism, consumerism.

 

so don't get confused by sumbolic images.

 

Prashant

 

 

 

 

Namasthe,

 

.. This is evident from what is happening to christianity or should I say

Churchianity in Kerala. Christains in kerala are slowly turning to hinduism

their origin. Practically all the churches have deepa sthambha and they try to

mimick hindu festivals. Most of the churches are built very near to temples.

Malayattur is a mimickery of sabarimala. Most of them have abandoned their

traditional dressings and wear more like hindus. Even their names are hindu

names. It might be clever ruse to whoo the Hindu community but I am tend to

think this phenomena as a reversal of thinking. Though this is not the point of

discussion, i reffered to it only to discount the loosing a civilisation to

another culture.

 

This is not to hurt you in any way.

With warm regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Not only in kerala but also in TN and AP

 

Charriot procession, wearing of sandal tilak, lighting of lamps, kolam in the

front yard.

 

Now we have to tell our children that vedas meen chatur veda and not bible. In

tamilnadu they have started vedagama school.

 

But the best way to counter this is practising Hinduism. Actually

 

1. We are not practising Hinduism. Havans, Poojas have come down.

 

2. Village temples are neglected. Our swamijis are busy in cities. Only Sri

Jeyendra saraswathi, Saibababa went to villages and that is why targetted. ( The

third is Ramakrishna mission which is doing silently and also the RSS affliated

institutions)

 

Hence villages are targetted by church.

 

3. Treat Harijans as your own brothers. I have seen how they are ill treated in

rural TN and AP. If we dont allow our own brothers equal right, how can we

prevent them going to other religions.

 

4. Teach young children your religion. I am seeing all christian kids in

chennnai attending the " Vedagama " classes in summer. all churches are

conducting. Though temples cannot conduct classes because we are SECCUULLAARR,

why dont we organise for our children.

 

5. I recently chanced upon an article by Kanchi Paramacharya late sri

Chandrasekarendra Saraswathi titled " require Ahimsa Soldiers " .

 

The gist is

 

 A soldier is ready to die for his cause and will not let a single inch of his

mother land. The ahimasa part is that he will not attack other religion but

protect his religion by practising it and help his society practise it. "

 

If we practise our religion and help the nearby community practise, then swami

says automatically leaders will emerge. we have faced malikkafur and Aurangazeb.

but vijayanagar and shivaji came.

 

When jainism threatened then adishankara and thirugnana sambanda came.

 

If we dont practise then dont expect miracles.  The lord is both bayakruth and

bayanasana. ( forgive my sanskrit) He has created the fear for us to be

agressive in our religion. If we practise the religion then he will be baya

nasana.

 

Your views please

 

regards

 

--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

church mimickry

 

Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 3:03 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Suresh babu

 

I have retained just ur last part of the mail and also changed the topic/subject

line

 

DON'T GET CONFUSED BY WHAT U SAW there it is so thruoight the world where church

is spreading.

 

Pope John Paul II had clearly told the church to follow ethnic and tribal

aspects to be used liberaly in the faith propogation

 

and they use VEDA for bible now

 

they had in past ridiculed Suprabhata but now have suprabhata [morning wake up

prayer for the lord a la Sri Venketeswara, raghavandrea, Shiva, Hanuman, Shirdi

sai baba etc.

 

in the ear;y days of Pope Paul II i saw a TV drama of crucification in Chennai

where they had show christ being taken on the cross up hill and not crucified on

the hill but all along the way Nadaswaram, harathi being given to him with the

usual arathi prayers whisch is blasphmaous in real sense as the crucification,

the subsequent resurection can;t be diluted so easily but this is how it has

been shown that Hinduism and the chrch have simiar approaches deepasthama,

arathi, bhakans [mot choirs] deeksha

 

but just check if they will eat the prasadam u give them

if u feel they r similar

 

try asking them for lunch at ur place they will make sure u did not give it as

Naivadyam to our Lord/s and only then will they eat, invariably they r told not

to eat in Hindu houses as theyir food is offered to their gods [inferior ones]

so it is polluted.

the mouse maids most of them have converted in sough India across many states

and they will never eat any food even if u give it straight from the stove.

 

but christians from the past periods r more open and they choose and are liberal

and surely it is no longer the the old order of Kenya, Ethiiopian where the

purer for of church practices still prevail

 

now church needs ppl to man churches across the world with 2% in Europe, 1 % is

USA and may be 3-5 % in Australia, NZ many countires have one prest to man a

feww districts be it baptism or funeral in many cass they have allowed people

who can read the verses in the bible for such jobs to take over the role for the

day, many countires have counties closing down churches and re using the space

for other activities. as a lockd place is used by miscrients, anti-social

elements of any faith,

 

there is only one religion now that is agridisement, materialism, consumerism.

 

so don't get confused by sumbolic images.

 

Prashant

 

Namasthe,

 

.. This is evident from what is happening to christianity or should I say

Churchianity in Kerala. Christains in kerala are slowly turning to hinduism

their origin. Practically all the churches have deepa sthambha and they try to

mimick hindu festivals. Most of the churches are built very near to temples.

Malayattur is a mimickery of sabarimala. Most of them have abandoned their

traditional dressings and wear more like hindus. Even their names are hindu

names. It might be clever ruse to whoo the Hindu community but I am tend to

think this phenomena as a reversal of thinking. Though this is not the point of

discussion, i reffered to it only to discount the loosing a civilisation to

another culture.

 

This is not to hurt you in any way.

With warm regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy