Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Vinay Jha ji, Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ....), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dear Friends, In Pune there used be very renowned Astrologers whom even Shri K.N.Rao used to visit.he ofcourse restricted his writings to Marathi. During 70-80s he was very popular even I took a chance to meet him in Pune.Difficult to get time from him and is always crowded with many people in q for him. Even thogh bejan Daruwallah is not a maharashtrian 'coz of his base in Mumbai he used to write and publish several articles. Even Mathematical wizzard Shakuntala Devi too hails from Mumbai,though comes from a family on the other side of vindhyas. Rajkot from Gujarat continues to have well establishes families in Astrology and whose predictions continues to be well respected all over India. Yet the subject and it's modern times status is largely due to late Shri B.V.Raman and partially the credit also goes to shriK.N.Rao.Ofcourse he could not make it as his souls activity till the end of active service. Infact I called on the day of his official retirement in some time in 1994 when he was telegraph colony.Those days he was with ICAS and continued to publish books,thus building up academeic orientation for jyotish. His classes in Bhartiya Vidya bhavan started with some controversy have produced good amatures in Astrology. vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Back to Astrology Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:52 PM Vinay Jha ji, Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ....), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dada, Just to clarify (since internet sometimes sounds like a powder-keg of misunderstandings, or exclusively those ;-) -- Not you and I of course!!) -- in modern times (1930 onwards in english-speaking reality including India and Internet) while there may have been great astrologers, teachers and Beacons, THREE Maharathis cannot be ignored or go unmentioned, even if they may not have always gotten along with one another's teachings and astrological approaches from what I have observed from a distance. In chronological order they would be B.V. Raman, K.N. Rao and Sanjay Rath. I have not been close enough to any of those or their writings to really make the call which of them was the greatest or if such a comparison can be made or should be...! Let us just count our blessings and be grateful for all that we all have received from so many sources, ancient and modern! Rohiniranjan , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > In Pune there used be very renowned Astrologers whom even Shri K.N.Rao used to visit.he ofcourse restricted his writings to Marathi. > During 70-80s he was very popular even I took a chance to meet him in Pune.Difficult to get time from him and is always crowded with many people in q for him. > Even thogh bejan Daruwallah is not a maharashtrian 'coz of his base in Mumbai he used to write and publish several articles. > Even Mathematical wizzard Shakuntala Devi too hails from Mumbai,though comes from a family on the other side of vindhyas. > Rajkot from Gujarat continues to have well establishes families in Astrology and whose predictions continues to be well respected all over India. > Yet the subject and it's modern times status is largely due to late Shri B.V.Raman and partially the credit also goes to shriK.N.Rao.Ofcourse he could not make it as his souls activity till the end of active service. > Infact I called on the day of his official retirement in some time in 1994 when he was telegraph colony.Those days he was with ICAS and continued to publish books,thus building up academeic orientation for jyotish. > His classes in Bhartiya Vidya bhavan started with some controversy have produced good amatures in Astrology. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Back to Astrology > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:52 PM > > Vinay Jha ji, > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ....), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in > their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > RR > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dear Dada, I had some personal interaction and through wireless talk.Sanjay sounds very good and his ability to write books and popularise in the background of efforts by ICAS is certainly noteworthy.with his IITs affiliation his meidal astrology,book on transit are of those who are used for by heart metohds of Gurukul.Even kapoor too is of slightly having an edge over sanjay.Persons like PS sastry,prolofic writers we need also to mention M.N.kedar and shri Santaanam who could find publishers in English to release their publications.Infact if sagar publications in Delhi is worth to mention it is all 'coz of these bunch of serious people having grrit to take advantage of the rising popularity of Jyotish in India. vrrkishnan --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Re: Back to Astrology Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:06 PM Dada, Just to clarify (since internet sometimes sounds like a powder-keg of misunderstandings, or exclusively those ;-) -- Not you and I of course!!) -- in modern times (1930 onwards in english-speaking reality including India and Internet) while there may have been great astrologers, teachers and Beacons, THREE Maharathis cannot be ignored or go unmentioned, even if they may not have always gotten along with one another's teachings and astrological approaches from what I have observed from a distance. In chronological order they would be B.V. Raman, K.N. Rao and Sanjay Rath. I have not been close enough to any of those or their writings to really make the call which of them was the greatest or if such a comparison can be made or should be...! Let us just count our blessings and be grateful for all that we all have received from so many sources, ancient and modern! Rohiniranjan , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > In Pune there used be very renowned Astrologers whom even Shri K.N.Rao used to visit.he ofcourse restricted his writings to Marathi. > During 70-80s he was very popular even I took a chance to meet him in Pune.Difficult to get time from him and is always crowded with many people in q for him. > Even thogh bejan Daruwallah is not a maharashtrian 'coz of his base in Mumbai he used to write and publish several articles. > Even Mathematical wizzard Shakuntala Devi too hails from Mumbai,though comes from a family on the other side of vindhyas. > Rajkot from Gujarat continues to have well establishes families in Astrology and whose predictions continues to be well respected all over India. > Yet the subject and it's modern times status is largely due to late Shri B.V.Raman and partially the credit also goes to shriK.N.Rao. Ofcourse he could not make it as his souls activity till the end of active service. > Infact I called on the day of his official retirement in some time in 1994 when he was telegraph colony.Those days he was with ICAS and continued to publish books,thus building up academeic orientation for jyotish. > His classes in Bhartiya Vidya bhavan started with some controversy have produced good amatures in Astrology. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Back to Astrology > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:52 PM > > Vinay Jha ji, > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ....), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in > their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > RR > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dada, Someone writes a message, an article, a book, several books. Many read those, with all levels and degrees of expectations or lack thereof.. Of those that have read, some are influenced others are not, and a small subset of those from either category writes back. Authors like some feedbacks, others they do not ...! One author, one article/book/writing but such diverse responses. Should the author be concerned by the criticisms or uplifted by the accolades and fan-mail? Once something gets expressed and written out and published, no matter in which forum or format, the writer's MAYA is over or should be! He or She has no control over the " reader/receiver's " MAYA or perception! So many opportunities Ma gives us to exercise detachment but as always ACTION must speak louder than words and claims! RR , bursar_99 wrote: > > > Dear Dada, > I had some personal interaction and through wireless talk.Sanjay sounds very good and his ability to write books and popularise in the background of efforts by ICAS is certainly noteworthy.with his IITs affiliation his meidal astrology,book on transit are of those who are used for by heart metohds of Gurukul.Even kapoor too is of slightly having an edge over sanjay.Persons like PS sastry,prolofic writers we need also to mention M.N.kedar and shri Santaanam who could find publishers in English to release their publications.Infact if sagar publications in Delhi is worth to mention it is all 'coz of these bunch of serious people having grrit to take advantage of the rising popularity of Jyotish in India. > vrrkishnan > > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > Re: Back to Astrology > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:06 PM > > Dada, > > Just to clarify (since internet sometimes sounds like a powder-keg of misunderstandings, or exclusively those ;-) -- Not you and I of course!!) -- in modern times (1930 onwards in english-speaking reality including India and Internet) while there may have been great astrologers, teachers and Beacons, THREE Maharathis cannot be ignored or go unmentioned, even if they may not have always gotten along with one another's teachings and astrological approaches from what I have observed from a distance. In chronological order they would be B.V. Raman, K.N. Rao and Sanjay Rath. I have not been close enough to any of those or their writings to really make the call which of them was the greatest or if such a comparison can be made or should be...! > > Let us just count our blessings and be grateful for all that we all have received from so many sources, ancient and modern! > > Rohiniranjan > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > In Pune there used be very renowned Astrologers whom even Shri K.N.Rao used to visit.he ofcourse restricted his writings to Marathi. > > During 70-80s he was very popular even I took a chance to meet him in Pune.Difficult to get time from him and is always crowded with many people in q for him. > > Even thogh bejan Daruwallah is not a maharashtrian 'coz of his base in Mumbai he used to write and publish several articles. > > Even Mathematical wizzard Shakuntala Devi too hails from Mumbai,though comes from a family on the other side of vindhyas. > > Rajkot from Gujarat continues to have well establishes families in Astrology and whose predictions continues to be well respected all over India. > > Yet the subject and it's modern times status is largely due to late Shri B.V.Raman and partially the credit also goes to shriK.N.Rao. Ofcourse he could not make it as his souls activity till the end of active service. > > Infact I called on the day of his official retirement in some time in 1994 when he was telegraph colony.Those days he was with ICAS and continued to publish books,thus building up academeic orientation for jyotish. > > His classes in Bhartiya Vidya bhavan started with some controversy have produced good amatures in Astrology. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Back to Astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ...), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in > > their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > > > RR > > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dear Krishna ji, RRji we had some very good translators who brought the gist of the original texts to be understood to suit our times and near future times, we also have seen some original good works by some of them as well some have done a dumb/literal translation and no works of their own, some have copied great translators and squeezed their name in Usha & sashi r case in point who have used B Suryanaraya Raos Brihat Jataka to the word. even the titles he god, when these Usha and shai r supposed to be from our times. only diff is they don't use the sanskrit slokas in same location as the other authors but put them behind the translated work.s, v SUBRAMANYA SASTRY and MRAMAKRISHNA Bhatt have done excellent translations of Uttarakalamrutha, Phaladeeipka, Jataka tatwa, Jataka Parijatha 3 vol, Jataka Marthanda, Brihat Jataka, Brihat samhita, Sankatha Nidhi, Hora Sora of Prithyus, Jataka Alankara and many mire. in the late 30's to 60's in BPHS I've seen good ones by NN Krishna rao , V B choudry, in late 50's early 60;s were donated to Divine life society or Sivananda ashram with many other works GK SHrmas works are also good -BPHS the latest one in the list AND GOOD JOB, WHEN WE COMPARE IT WITH nnk or IT IS EUALLY GOOD AND WHEN nnk, gks R COMPARED TO R SANTHANAM IT IS WAY AHEADD santhanam did a literal job and not suited the times say conveyance was still given as 4 legged animal, chariot, horse etc, affairs with maid servants, favor or displasure of kings which NNK used as conveyance, luzury conveyanbce, MAIN SERVANT AS CO-WORKER/SECY, king= superiors or VIP's etc makes a lot of diff to our times. some original writers like James T BRAHMA, ROBER HAUCK etc from the west too have added their bit. Best wishes Prashant ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:20:49 AM Re: Back to Astrology Dada, Someone writes a message, an article, a book, several books. Many read those, with all levels and degrees of expectations or lack thereof.. Of those that have read, some are influenced others are not, and a small subset of those from either category writes back. Authors like some feedbacks, others they do not ...! One author, one article/book/ writing but such diverse responses. Should the author be concerned by the criticisms or uplifted by the accolades and fan-mail? Once something gets expressed and written out and published, no matter in which forum or format, the writer's MAYA is over or should be! He or She has no control over the " reader/receiver' s " MAYA or perception! So many opportunities Ma gives us to exercise detachment but as always ACTION must speak louder than words and claims! RR , bursar_99@.. . wrote: > > > Dear Dada, > I had some personal interaction and through wireless talk.Sanjay sounds very good and his ability to write books and popularise in the background of efforts by ICAS is certainly noteworthy.with his IITs affiliation his meidal astrology,book on transit are of those who are used for by heart metohds of Gurukul.Even kapoor too is of slightly having an edge over sanjay.Persons like PS sastry,prolofic writers we need also to mention M.N.kedar and shri Santaanam who could find publishers in English to release their publications. Infact if sagar publications in Delhi is worth to mention it is all 'coz of these bunch of serious people having grrit to take advantage of the rising popularity of Jyotish in India. > vrrkishnan > > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > Re: Back to Astrology > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:06 PM > > Dada, > > Just to clarify (since internet sometimes sounds like a powder-keg of misunderstandings, or exclusively those ;-) -- Not you and I of course!!) -- in modern times (1930 onwards in english-speaking reality including India and Internet) while there may have been great astrologers, teachers and Beacons, THREE Maharathis cannot be ignored or go unmentioned, even if they may not have always gotten along with one another's teachings and astrological approaches from what I have observed from a distance. In chronological order they would be B.V. Raman, K.N. Rao and Sanjay Rath. I have not been close enough to any of those or their writings to really make the call which of them was the greatest or if such a comparison can be made or should be...! > > Let us just count our blessings and be grateful for all that we all have received from so many sources, ancient and modern! > > Rohiniranjan > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > In Pune there used be very renowned Astrologers whom even Shri K.N.Rao used to visit.he ofcourse restricted his writings to Marathi. > > During 70-80s he was very popular even I took a chance to meet him in Pune.Difficult to get time from him and is always crowded with many people in q for him. > > Even thogh bejan Daruwallah is not a maharashtrian 'coz of his base in Mumbai he used to write and publish several articles. > > Even Mathematical wizzard Shakuntala Devi too hails from Mumbai,though comes from a family on the other side of vindhyas. > > Rajkot from Gujarat continues to have well establishes families in Astrology and whose predictions continues to be well respected all over India. > > Yet the subject and it's modern times status is largely due to late Shri B.V.Raman and partially the credit also goes to shriK.N.Rao. Ofcourse he could not make it as his souls activity till the end of active service. > > Infact I called on the day of his official retirement in some time in 1994 when he was telegraph colony.Those days he was with ICAS and continued to publish books,thus building up academeic orientation for jyotish. > > His classes in Bhartiya Vidya bhavan started with some controversy have produced good amatures in Astrology. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > Back to Astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 7:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ...), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in > > their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > > > RR > > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dear ohini Ranjan Ji and Vinay Jha Ji Jaya Siyaa Raam This " Jee " is a part of " Bhagvat " , and in fact this address is of my web site [ www.geocities.com/bhagvatjee ]. When I was applying for this address I did not get " bhavatji " so I had to write it in this way, that is all. It is still a " Ji " a respect word, but you know what happens when you take the e-mail address or any web site address, sometimes you have to change it according to availability of that term. So don't take it seriously, please. With regards Sushma , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Vinay Jha ji, > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ....), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > RR > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Internet and seriousness are mutually exclusive. Serious Internet is an oxymoron ;-) RR , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee wrote: > > Dear ohini Ranjan Ji and Vinay Jha Ji > Jaya Siyaa Raam > > This " Jee " is a part of " Bhagvat " , and in fact this address is of my web site [ www.geocities.com/bhagvatjee ]. When I was applying for this address I did not get " bhavatji " so I had to write it in this way, that is all. It is still a " Ji " a respect word, but you know what happens when you take the e-mail address or any web site address, sometimes you have to change it according to availability of that term. > > So don't take it seriously, please. > With regards > Sushma > > > , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ...), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > > > RR > > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 RR Ji's view is supported by official line of Govt of India which does not care to update its official webpages " seriously " . -VJ ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Friday, May 15, 2009 4:47:32 AM Re: Back to Astrology Internet and seriousness are mutually exclusive. Serious Internet is an oxymoron ;-) RR , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > Dear ohini Ranjan Ji and Vinay Jha Ji > Jaya Siyaa Raam > > This " Jee " is a part of " Bhagvat " , and in fact this address is of my web site [ www.geocities. com/bhagvatjee ]. When I was applying for this address I did not get " bhavatji " so I had to write it in this way, that is all. It is still a " Ji " a respect word, but you know what happens when you take the e-mail address or any web site address, sometimes you have to change it according to availability of that term. > > So don't take it seriously, please. > With regards > Sushma > > > , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > Vinay Jha ji, > > > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ...), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride in their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > > > RR > > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Should that statement from Vinay Jha ji! make me/us happy or scared? RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > RR Ji's view is supported by official line of Govt of India which does not care to update its official webpages " seriously " . > > -VJ > > > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Friday, May 15, 2009 4:47:32 AM > Re: Back to Astrology > > > > > > Internet and seriousness are mutually exclusive. Serious Internet is an oxymoron ;-) > > RR > > , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear ohini Ranjan Ji and Vinay Jha Ji > > Jaya Siyaa Raam > > > > This " Jee " is a part of " Bhagvat " , and in fact this address is of my web site [ www.geocities. com/bhagvatjee ]. When I was applying for this address I did not get " bhavatji " so I had to write it in this way, that is all. It is still a " Ji " a respect word, but you know what happens when you take the e-mail address or any web site address, sometimes you have to change it according to availability of that term. > > > > So don't take it seriously, please. > > With regards > > Sushma > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote: > > > > > > Vinay Jha ji, > > > > > > Double jee/ji actually is a wonderful sambodhan when someone makes to a lady. It means elder sister or Didi I believe -- in Marathi. > > > > > > It is amazing that we hear a lot about the output from South Indian Jyotishis (not contemporary but also from recent or perhaps even remote past writings ...), and North Indian Jyotishis I suppose, and a few mentions from the East (Khana for instance) but little do we hear about Jyotishis from Maharashtra and Gujrat. In my teenage days, a series of books became available from one KK Shah from Nargoal (sp?) who had an interesting system of non-mainstream jyotish which sometimes worked but at other times did not. Of course CS Shah who wrote about amshas and AV is known among modern writers but other than Katveji I have not heard or read of any Maharashtrian jyotishis. One wonders why? Marathi literature is very rich as is the culture and very pragmatic and progressive. Recalling my younger days, they are very protective of their culture and language and in all colleges and Universities, Marathis always had a tightly-knit cultural group and took pride > in their language and culture. Sadly, in doing so they did at times become a bit 'exclusive'. I do not want to use the term 'ghetto' but at times they have been perceived to be a bit like that. > > > > > > Hopefully I am not offending anyone here -- I have a lot of respect and love for Marathis and their culture and their very even-keeled and yet rich imagination as is reflected in their literature and dramas and so on! But why have they not written a lot about astrology or maybe wrote only in their mother tongue. > > > > > > One of the most wonderful Marathi jyotishis I have at time written about, Major S.G.Khot who researched and wrote about medical astrology was someone who impressed me in my young days when Jyotish was just beginning to drag me down to a depth of seriousness or perhaps trying to elevate me to an awareness of It, I was privileged to see a retired military Major now focused on jyotish and his meticulous record-keeping. His good research habits sure impressed me! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > bhagvatjee ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for a double jee/ji... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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